I almost cant bare to look at these people in order to watch this.. Im so filled with rage to look upon their faces, there really are no words. I want to watch this for purposes of self education..but honestly can hardly bare the sight of these disgusting beings. This is horrible.
@iFuckinHateCatholics You are so pathetic and low. Its hard to imagine how anyone could be so stupid. Hopefully one day you will come upon some wisdom and guidance to awaken you to just how vile you have become and you can set about redeeming yourself.
also i dont get it...why is it a thing about religion ? It's stupid... they both believe in the same God and their god sends murderers to burn in hell ,doesnt he? I also heard that such people are martyrs - try looking the definition of martyrdom. Besides,a true martyr doesnt seek death or punishment by killing people. And what i dont understand is why this isnt Irish vs non-irish ? It's so convenient to say you are doing what you are doing in the name of God.Seriously sick logic,sorry to say :/
oh so UFF murdered other innocent people and they think they were eaven ... this is the most idiotic frame of mind that only an IDEOLOGICAL MORAL GROUNDS bring... loyalists,protestants,catholics. For fuck's sake... i do however think that N.Ireland should be part of the Irish reppublic (it's freakin' IRISH not BRITISH. Britain is at fault at invading Ireland...same as Israel occupying Palestine and being condemned by the U.N.). Immagine if Italy annexed half of Slovenia?
@Lywnis But there are people in northern Ireland who want the British there it is like in Gibraltar and the Falkland Island they have grown up with the British been there that's all they have known That's why the remains of British empire want and would die to keep the British and there are still many thousands upon Thousands of people in Northern Ireland who want the British there and with Ireland been part of Britain it will not change but I think it is Barbaric what some Loyalists did
@ReadyRangers54 you only make a disservice towards yourself ... (if you want to piss people off try doing it in real life and see what happens). Why not putt in writing your opinion supported by facts? Try argumenting your beliefs,however misguided they might be. Cheers
@Lywnis Don't have to explain any kind of beliefs to anybody over YT. Taking it a bit too seriously are we not? My views put up there briefly was that I hate the IRA terrorist scum & all the people who glorify in what they did, that i'm very proud to be Scottish and being Scottish makes me British although alot of tims like to think otherwise and never surrender, you seen that today from the great football club I love & support today. Very happy with my level of education at 18, thankyou. WATP!
I dont support the IRA, but when you hear these Knuckle draggin inbread brain dead loyalist fuckin scum bag open their mouth and speak their un-educated shite, they certianly make the men who joined the IRA look like noble men!
Too bad the truth about the details of the IRA atrocities is always subdued. Someone needs to make a documentary on the history of the horrors of the IRA. Most of the videos on here are very one sided. The World really has no clue about how many innocent civilians were killed by the IRA because the propaganda supports the IRA.
i dont have any alliegances, but having watched the provos series before this, i can already say that the ira guys seem more reasonable, they didn't want to fight but they had to, whereas the loyalists seem like nutters, driven by some irrational hatred of catholics and republicans... i know who i'd rather have a drink with!
A lot of commentators seem to be missing the point that unlike the filth of the IRA nobody is making movies portraying these gangsters as heroes, or naming streets after them, or inviting them to the White House.
@awamoriwhiskey thats becuase most people the IRA killed where either unionist paramilitaries and british soldiers, most of the people the unionists killed had nothing to do with the IRA
@akiraobrian Doesnt matter how many times you repost inaccurate statistics, they'll always be inaccurate. The true statistics are up on the CAIN website for everyone to see.
"Doesnt matter how many times you repost inaccurate statistics, they'll always be inaccurate. The true statistics are up on the CAIN website for everyone to see."
@greatestXhits You can't prove they had no connections to the IRA. You would walk past any person and they might have had some small link to any of the Paramilitaries. I do not say these are acceptable murders non the less - but there is bad blood on both sides. The IRA murdered innocents too.
@Burncourtable Your point being? It has fuck all to do with England or the English. Prods in NI don't much care about the English either. It's about keeping in a Union that guarantees their rights - their right to work, do business, to practice their religion, and to live in their land, and not be forced out like the Protestants in the South post Free State.
@MrOzanachronism Catholics were driven out of their homes by loyalists during the 1960's whereas Protestants in the Republic are afforded equal status. The Unionist cannot be trusted in power, hence the reason we have powersharing.
I am from East Belfast originally,i am ashamed of these so called people who say they will die for God and Ulster,pls would My lord ever sanction such disgusting people.
May God forgive them,oh and i Love ALL OF IRELAND.
The war had to be taken to the pan-nationalist Home Front. Protestant renegades who ran with Fenians put themselves in firing range and became unavoidable collateral damage. Good to see the old bulldogs and sterling machine guns. Excellent little weapons that killed bugs dead!
harry currie must have been a fine lookin man in his day ioi , bet the shitebag hid in a crater while his scum mates were blown to bits or mangled in barbed wire , no enough a the skanky bastards died, only good for killin soft targets or like "johnny white" cuttin woman's throats , fuckin beast , in fact they must be the worst people in the world , how do u cut a woman's throat and still sleep , only oranges
good documentary,but a lot of it is full of shit. dont take these animals at face value they were killing innocent catholics in 1966, 4 years before the IRA fired a single shot. They also detonated the first large scale bomb that targeted civilians(mcgurks). They also killed the first police officer. They are affiliated with neo nazis, and today loyalist areas are still the most racist and hate filled in the country. The unspoken truth is a lot of loyalists believed catholics were sub human rats
@TheJay9002 Peter Taylor is a very unbiased journalist. Of course a lot of Loyalists thought Catholics were sub human. Just like a lot of Republicans thought Protestants were sub human.
I think the documentary was as negative about Loyalists as you could expect. You can't expect a documentary just to emphasise how evil people are for an hour. Bear in mind that if you have grown up in Northern Ireland, your viewpoint is likely more biased to a particular side than Peter Taylor's.
@MrRippy99 Are you from Northern Ireland?Having grown up in a republican area and having been a long time alliance party supporter and cross community activist who has many protestant friends, I can say without bias that republicans were not brought up to believe protestants were sub human. Apart from anything else, it is hard to believe the dominant group in a country is sub human. The loyalist attitude was often similar to whites in the southern states/S.Africa, although not as widespread.
@TheJay9002 I totally agree. Wolfe Tone, Robert Emmet, Henry Joy McCracken, Charles Stuart Parnell, Roger Casement: all major figures in Irish Republicanism, all Protestants (Casement changed to Catholicism the day before he was excecuted), the first three men were the founding Fathers of Irish Republicanism: the United Irishmen. Proper Republicans dont care about religion, football or anything else except a belief in a 32 county United Ireland. I've many Protestant friends who're Republicans.
@crossybhoy All true, protestant men and women make up some of the best Irishmen and women that have ever walked on this island. Northern Irish loyalism took on a much more sinister character however, and I do believe it was similar in many ways to that ignorant, doomed and "ethnically superior" type of hatred shown by many whites in south Africa/southern states of USA. Which is sad. Ignorant fear and the fact many weren't really sure what they were fighting for made them sadistic animals.
@TheJay9002 Thats the fucked up thing about it. People in the republic dont give a fuck what religion someone is. We've lived in peace with eachother since the foundation of the state. Crazy what fear of the other can do.
@scientific1982 Unfortunately that is not true at all.Protestants especially in the southern parts of the island had a very rough time during certain times.Houses burnt out etc.However the improvement in the last 2/3 decades has been superb and none of that exists anymore.How much of that has got to do with the downfall of the Catholic Church is debatable but whatever it is it has worked out well.Long may it continue.
This is the biggest load of bullshit british propaganda I have ever seen. For the whole program they talk about the loyalists as if they were only reacting to the IRA. The border campaign in the late 50s early 60s had practically no support from the nationalist population of Northern Ireland. It was a disaster for the IRA. You had a Unionist goverment that would not share power with nationalists or give them voting rites. In Derry the population was 53,744, of which 36,049 was Catholic and...
and 17,695 Protestant yet unionists had a majority of seats on the city council. You had the RUC stand by watching while loyalists mobs would beat the shit out of and burn out nationalists families out of their home and when the Civil Rights movement started you had the RUC beat the shit out of the protesters because it was not the IRA the the Unionist powers fared it was losing total dominance of power.Basil Brooke said...Catholics are out to destroy Ulster...
...If we in Ulster allow Roman Catholics to work on our farms we are traitors to Ulster...He was the Prime Minister of Northern Ireland from 1943 to 1963. The Prime Minister. This is what the nationalist population had to live with in Northern Ireland but its not the 1st time we have seen a people treated this way. We saw it in the 50s where African Americans had to fight for rights in the Southern states and the Apartheid system in South Africa. The oppressors believed and told the world that
they were only defending themselves from attack and their way of life but the rest of the world saw through their bullshit but I must say the British Media did a great propaganda job of covering up the real reasons why the troubles started in the 1st place but you know what BBC propaganda only works in the short term because over time the truth always comes out and in time history will judge the Unionist people not as defenders but oppressors.
Peter Taylor goes into the origins of the conflict itself better in the episodes on the Provos available on this guys channel. These videos are simply about the loyalists
As someone raised Catholic in Australia but of English/Irish background, I've always wished for a United Ireland, but love the Good Friday Agreement's stipulations that enact peace and ensure that if Northern Ireland has a Republican majority it will join the Republic, but until then it's part of the UK, that's pure democracy.
I abhor any terrorism, done by the IRA or UVF. I regret the death of any innocent Protestant as much as any Catholic.
But if someone had killed Ian Paisley, I wouldn't have shed many tears at all. When I've heard of innocent Protestant men, women and children dying, I've been moved to tears. But as far as I'm concerned Ian Paisley has been guilty of more bloodshed than anyone in the Troubles, and is a slimy bastard in the way he's done it indirectly. Although I wager he's been involved in some things, a slimier bastard still for denying it if so.
If Paisley hadn't whipped up such resistance against the Catholic civil rights movement (which was fair and no different to what Ghandi did), then a lot fewer people would have died. His speeches have been responsible for countless deaths. Any terrorist act is awful, but the World would have been much better off if the IRA hadn't killed a brilliant peace loving man like Lord Mountbatten, but instead taken out Paisley
Born & Raised in Australia but a Loyalist At Heart Parents from Armagh , County Armagh my dad was hardcore supporter of Armagh Brigade UVF and had a Uncle who was with RUC ....... NO SURRENDER BOYS :)
They British establishment in 1913 confiscated nationalist weapons, while sponsoring the Unionists, essentially for if worst came to the worst the British parliament had endorsed the unionists.
@patsyd80 in a way he did,he protested against rome,martin luther was at the same time he protested as well.religeon is man made ,so some cunt can control u,its all bollocks.its a blight on this planet.rabbies nuns priests vickers,holy men deserve nothing but contempt.
wow it seems from this doc that Irish people from all sides of the politcal divide are quite cod blooded and brutal. Even seems like the clergy get in on the act of death and destruction aswell. Suppose you just gotta pick your colours and fight the good fight best you can. No surrender and god save the queen.
The ruling elite with their puppet figurehead,Queen Elizabeth the Second,Strut about on the million of bodies That they have sacrificed to gain their position.Who are they but the inheritors of their ancestors greed and theft? Their blood stained flags, These rulers are common murderers and thieves,But still you bow before them. For how long will the masses be so pathetically manipulated by God, Queen and Country?
@TheresAGhostInMyBeer seeing as after michael stones attack on miltown the uda rung the ira leadership and aplogised and said he wasnt one of theres lmao read the book inside the uda
no one has the right to murder , god is the only one has the right to say who lives or dies , for murders uvf, ira whatever god was watching what you did
@FreckletonBoy no one has the right to take life only god almighty he alone has the say on who lives or dies , no govournment , dictater, no terrorist
@mufc1970ok God says we can take a life if theyre guilty of being a betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped, A woman who is found not to have been a virgin on the night of her wedding, Worshiping other gods, Taking God's name in vain or cursing God's name and Cursing a parent. God dosnt sound like a nice guy
Some loyalists have made mistakes in killing innocent civilians. but go ahead kill all Sinn fein , IRA , INLA 32 csm members and all supporters of the militant republican movements.
ffs anyone on hear saying the IRA didnt target innocent people are full of shite how many no warning bombs were placed during the troubles? The IRA killed men/women/kids of all ages FACT both catholics and protestant died if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time then you died they didnt care'.
And Ireland will never be United, the Republic dont want it and the majority of people in Northern Ireland dont want it so either join the Dissidents or fuck up.
The terrorist actions of the republican movement created the loyalist paramilitaries. The loyalist paramilitaries are nothing but clones of the IRA. The Northern Protestants of Ulster wish to remain protestant and keep a sort of British identity the fenians should not try to force the Irish state upon them.
You've got it all wrong, which isn't surprising probably living 2000 miles away. The Republican Movement didn't create the Loyalists, neither did they try to ethnically cleanse Ireland of Protestants, if you knew your arse from your elbow you'd know that it was the other way about and Republicans never targeted Protestant civilians, just security forces and the army, the meat head loyalists tried to get in on the act by colluding with the Brits, thats when they were put in their place.....
@jefftipps The IRA killed many innocents including catholics. The Illuminati (revolutionary athiests some of who were apostate protestants)were behind the United Irishmen. This is recorded in many works such as "The Secret Societies of Ireland" by Captain H.B.C Pollard, "The Application of Barruel's Memoirs of Jacobinism to the Secret Societies of Ireland and Great Britain" by R. C. Clifford, "Occult Theocracy" by Lady Queensborough and "Fire in the Minds of Men" by James Billington.
Just because you can use wikipedia doesn't mean you can copy paste some shit about the united Irishmen and pass it off as if you were already well read on the subject. My advice to you would be to keep your opinions about things you know fuck-all-squared about to yourself. It hasn't been about Catholicism for a very long time and the driving force is a United Ireland. You should worry about the carnage your own country is causing at the minute in Afghanistan.
Hmmm, I didnt use wikipedia once are you kidding? But I did suggest several books and a pamphlet to you. If you were a protestant you would believe in God and would not be a fenian. You republicans have your state, now let the Ulster protestants have the state which they desire.
Catholics believe in God too, and of course a Fenian is a Catholic nowadays, but you being so far away without a notion of what your blithering on about wouldn't know this.
The island of Ireland was an Irish state for Irish people even before Catholicism and Protestantism existed.
Your an ignorant American, worry about your own country and i'll worry about mine, I live here after all and have had to put up with friends being killed, family being killed and all sorts of fucked up shit you couldn't even imagine, so fuck off and mind your own busiiness you ignorant clown.
You apparently do not know the history of the Ulster-Scotch in America (in the U.S we call them Scotch-Irish). To help you understand I will drop a few quotes about the Scotch-Irish....
"It is doubtful that we have fully realised the part played by this stern and virile people. They formed the kernel of that American stock who were the pioneers of our people in their march westward." - Theodore Roosevelt
Well you've basically credited the ulster scots with building up all the finest aspects of America whilst blaming the Irish and Italians (both catholic countries. Is this a coincidence I wonder....?) for all the crime and shit that went on.
You sound not only biased and unbalanced, you also sound bitter and stupid.
How can it be the truth when you speak in stupid absolutes? Absolutes which are inane when applied to life in general. So every Irish and Italian person in America was a thief and a gangster, whilst the ulster scots were all, to a man and woman, fine decent people who built America up.
This is just crap. People from all races and walks of life are good and bad. There's no one 'good race'...except to moronic bigots like you, of course.
I was not speaking in any absolute but was making a generality, a general statement.
It is absolutely true that the mass waves of catholic and jewish immigrants brought their organized crime and intrigue with them to America. But I am not labeling all irish or italians or jews as criminals.
So you didn't say the Italians and Irish "helped to bring crime, gangsterism and poverty to America's cities."
Your theory reveals an innate racism on your part because, put simply, a large influx of extremely poor people (whatever their race) arriving ANYWHERE where the resources and space are at a premium will lead to a surge in crime and gangsterism. It's only logical.
You could make the same argument about a massive influx of Germans or Swiss.
First of all, racism and bigotry is not "innate". It is something you learn from experience and knowledge. You are the one who is revealing a complete ignorance of history. America already did experience a mass influx of Germans and others prior to the mass roman catholic immigration of the 19th century. Those Germans and others also came to America broke and penniless yet they lived completely law abiding and God fearing lives. In fact, they were extremely hard workers.
There is something known as the "Protestant Work Ethic". Puritans and others came to the Americas with nothing when it was a wilderness and turned it into a civilization, all the while seeking to serve God in everything they did. So poverty is not an excuse for the gangsterism and organized crime which the catholic immigrants brought to America.
But at least the Italian and Irish immigrants were largely legal immigrants, that is more then can be said for America's current latino catholic invaders.
My Puritan and protestant forefathers came to America to escape that persecuting devil known as catholicism, as well as its smaller cousin anglicanism (anglo-catholicism). Unfortunately, the devil eventually followed us here. Of course I am bitter, my once God fearing constitutionally restrained government has turned into an athiestical, limitless and imperialistic empire.
The Puritans and your forefathers? Have you actually stopped to listen to how completely insane and irrelevant you sound? So they fled Europe due to persecution. It was hundreds of years ago. Get over it. Besides, didn't your lovely ancestors then go on to persecute and practically destroy the entire Native American culture?
Now there's a genocide you and your lousy fucking forefathers don't like talking about...
You have no basis for anything you fucking complete, astronomical moron.
They brought civilization and industriousness to an untamed land which was scarcely inhabited by a savage heathen pagan people. The various native tribes were warring with each other and committing genocide on each other long before any whites came to the Americas. In spite of the popular propaganda, there are actually thousands of cases where natives and whites worked together and befriended each other.
It is only natural that the superior culture and society would flourish while the inferior culture would do the opposite.
Remember, the natives were also guilty of many barbaric attacks on humble pilgrim settlers. The land I live on was not stolen from the natives but was BOUGHT AND PAID FOR, from the natives, by William Penn and his band of tolerant-protestant Bible believing Quakers who had peaceful relations with the American natives.
If you want to talk about truely barbaric, genocidal and awful crimes committed on American natives then look no further then the actions of the papist conquistadors. The conquistadors committed mass rape, torture and, according to first hand sources, actually seemed to enjoy it. They personally destroyed advanced and prosperous native empires such as the Inca and Maya's (which did not exist in North America). I affirm that the "Black Legend" about spanish barbarity is absolutely true.
The difference is that while my protestant pilgrim forefathers merely sought to secure land and protection [seperation] from the natives, the conquistadors sought to CONQUER and CONTROL the native peoples.
Somehow I knew before hand that you would bring up the ill treatment of natives in order to try to besmirch the good name of the founders of my country. A common tactic which is employed by your modern everyday brainwashed idiot.
History IS relevant, you are just an immature child who is completely out of touch with that.
Funny - six replies, and yet you still sound like a pathetic WASP who's been programmed by years of bullshit from their idiotic WASP parents.
I especially like your assertion that your forefathers were merely seeking to "secure land and protection" when they swindled and butchered all those Indians.
What a polite way to dress up mass murder...
Maybe that's how you people do it? Commit shameful acts, steal a country from some people and then lie about it.
Pathetic WASP? Your hatred and indoctrination is showing itself. My parents have not indoctrinated me at all, they know little of history. I have taught myself through a thorough study of history.
What I say is true. While the results did not bode well for the inferior culture, the original intentions of the "WASP" settlers was not to "butcher indians".
I thought you said what happened hundreds of years ago does not matter? Now you say, YOU PEOPLE do this and that?
It's a little rich for you to complain about me making historical references when you've done the same countless times and come up with the simplistic, naive and stupid notion that the Irish and Italians alone brought "gangsterism" to the previously unsullied, Utopian land of milk and honey that was America.
I was merely pointing out that YOUR proudly proclaimed history has murderers, cheats and swindlers (they bought the land HAHAHAHA) aplenty.
eezysqueezy, I was noting your hypocrisy with making "historical references". I was not claiming that every individual "WASP" is a good person or that there was no crime in Amercia before the mass catholic immigration but what I said stands on MERIT. I have heard of the Italian mob, the Irish mob etc. Have you ever heard of the WASP mob?
William Penn did in fact purchase the land from his indian friends, that is a historical fact. You come off sounding like an idiot.
No, I have never heard of the "WASP" mob. Perhaps this is because the "WASPs" became the middle/upper classes and did their thieving and pilfering BEFORE the Irish and Italians arrived.
As for William Penn; I have no doubt he PAID for the land he got. I also have know doubt that he drastically UNERPAID the poor guy he got the land from.
And you can post as many poems as you want. It doesn't change the fact that that your forefathers were murderers and thieves who stole a country.
@eezysqueezy "Stole a country"?? You truely are ridiculous. There was no "country" here when they arrived. It was a vast wilderness inhabitated by various native tribes who warred against each other. The world would be a far worse place (less prosperous and free) if the European had never ventured into the New World.
William Penn underpaid the poor guy? Not likely. You apparently do not know much about the Quaker community of the 17th century. The natives had much land they could move to at the time so they did not consider the future. It is always better to invest in land than in material goods or wealth. Historically, that has been something which the white man has understood and which the dark man has taken for granted. They made a bad investment.
Ah, so now we get to it And by "it" I mean the barely disguised racism and superiority complex which lies at the heart of every single bullshit argument you have posited here. "The white man" and "the dark man".....please.
I believe the names you are looking for are the exploited and the exploiter.
You really are a man in the wrong era. I would suggest that Berlin circa 1939 would be more your scene given how you obviously view yourself as part of some superior race.
I almost cant bare to look at these people in order to watch this.. Im so filled with rage to look upon their faces, there really are no words. I want to watch this for purposes of self education..but honestly can hardly bare the sight of these disgusting beings. This is horrible.
ceannairceachbeag 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
up the RA!!!!!!
pubkrocknroll 3 months ago
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pubkrocknroll 3 months ago
CHOPPETY CHOP CHOP
iFuckinHateCatholics 3 months ago
@iFuckinHateCatholics You are so pathetic and low. Its hard to imagine how anyone could be so stupid. Hopefully one day you will come upon some wisdom and guidance to awaken you to just how vile you have become and you can set about redeeming yourself.
ceannairceachbeag 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
WIPE ALL CATHOLICS FROM THE BRITISH COLONY OF IRELAND :)
iFuckinHateCatholics 3 months ago
@iFuckinHateCatholics you are one of the most deeply angry and ridiculous people on the internet haha.
radlord 3 months ago
@radlord
NO SURRENDER TO THE VATICAN HOARDS
iFuckinHateCatholics 3 months ago
@iFuckinHateCatholics I cant take you seriously.You're embarrassing yourself.
baillie67 3 months ago
also i dont get it...why is it a thing about religion ? It's stupid... they both believe in the same God and their god sends murderers to burn in hell ,doesnt he? I also heard that such people are martyrs - try looking the definition of martyrdom. Besides,a true martyr doesnt seek death or punishment by killing people. And what i dont understand is why this isnt Irish vs non-irish ? It's so convenient to say you are doing what you are doing in the name of God.Seriously sick logic,sorry to say :/
Lywnis 5 months ago in playlist Provos, Loyalists and Brits
oh so UFF murdered other innocent people and they think they were eaven ... this is the most idiotic frame of mind that only an IDEOLOGICAL MORAL GROUNDS bring... loyalists,protestants,catholics. For fuck's sake... i do however think that N.Ireland should be part of the Irish reppublic (it's freakin' IRISH not BRITISH. Britain is at fault at invading Ireland...same as Israel occupying Palestine and being condemned by the U.N.). Immagine if Italy annexed half of Slovenia?
Lywnis 5 months ago in playlist Provos, Loyalists and Brits
@Lywnis But there are people in northern Ireland who want the British there it is like in Gibraltar and the Falkland Island they have grown up with the British been there that's all they have known That's why the remains of British empire want and would die to keep the British and there are still many thousands upon Thousands of people in Northern Ireland who want the British there and with Ireland been part of Britain it will not change but I think it is Barbaric what some Loyalists did
inTHEwrongGENERATION 4 months ago
@inTHEwrongGENERATION
Chopping up kefoliks is good
CHOP FUCKIN CHOP
NO SURRENDER
iFuckinHateCatholics 3 months ago
@iFuckinHateCatholics To me it is not FAIR Enough if you figh soldier Against Soldier Fuck the I.R.A long live Britannia
inTHEwrongGENERATION 3 months ago
@inTHEwrongGENERATION very clever big man
radlord 3 months ago
@radlord what do you mean by that
inTHEwrongGENERATION 3 months ago
This was a brilliant documentary; thanks for posting. "Provoes" and "Brits" was good too. Peter Taylor rocks!
benthejrporter 5 months ago
NEVER SURRENDER.
IRA TERRORIST SCUM.
ONLY CRY WAS LOYALTY TO THE OLD RED WHITE & BLUE.
RULE BRITANNIA
ReadyRangers54 5 months ago
@ReadyRangers54 fucktard
how about leave ireland to irish
chereadnine 5 months ago
@ReadyRangers54 you only make a disservice towards yourself ... (if you want to piss people off try doing it in real life and see what happens). Why not putt in writing your opinion supported by facts? Try argumenting your beliefs,however misguided they might be. Cheers
Lywnis 5 months ago in playlist Provos, Loyalists and Brits
@Lywnis Don't have to explain any kind of beliefs to anybody over YT. Taking it a bit too seriously are we not? My views put up there briefly was that I hate the IRA terrorist scum & all the people who glorify in what they did, that i'm very proud to be Scottish and being Scottish makes me British although alot of tims like to think otherwise and never surrender, you seen that today from the great football club I love & support today. Very happy with my level of education at 18, thankyou. WATP!
ReadyRangers54 5 months ago
I dont support the IRA, but when you hear these Knuckle draggin inbread brain dead loyalist fuckin scum bag open their mouth and speak their un-educated shite, they certianly make the men who joined the IRA look like noble men!
Murfazoid86 5 months ago
Never Surrender, Blood for Blood.
TheDavidG54 6 months ago
All the Loyalists scum belong in Hell!
TheDavidG54 6 months ago
Tiocfaidh ár lá
TheDavidG54 6 months ago
Too bad the truth about the details of the IRA atrocities is always subdued. Someone needs to make a documentary on the history of the horrors of the IRA. Most of the videos on here are very one sided. The World really has no clue about how many innocent civilians were killed by the IRA because the propaganda supports the IRA.
BIGINSF 6 months ago
@BIGINSF They have you dumb truck. Its on the sidebar called "Provos".
scientific1982 1 month ago
Think thats quite funny shock horror ex loyalist killer in politics. What are sinn fein ira doing every day???
treacle1690 6 months ago
Peace and Love to Éire. Let's respect the fallen and vow to never commit to war upon brothers and sisters again
JanusXAlvarenga 7 months ago
i dont have any alliegances, but having watched the provos series before this, i can already say that the ira guys seem more reasonable, they didn't want to fight but they had to, whereas the loyalists seem like nutters, driven by some irrational hatred of catholics and republicans... i know who i'd rather have a drink with!
eaglepies 8 months ago
A lot of commentators seem to be missing the point that unlike the filth of the IRA nobody is making movies portraying these gangsters as heroes, or naming streets after them, or inviting them to the White House.
awamoriwhiskey 8 months ago
@awamoriwhiskey thats becuase most people the IRA killed where either unionist paramilitaries and british soldiers, most of the people the unionists killed had nothing to do with the IRA
greatestXhits 7 months ago
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akiraobrian 7 months ago
@greatestXhits: "most people the IRA killed where either unionist paramilitaries and british soldiers"
IRA Murders: 1,826
Of which:
British Army in Northern Ireland: 417
Loyalist Paramilitaries: 44
Others: 1365
akiraobrian 7 months ago
@akiraobrian Those statistics are bullshit.
scientific1982 7 months ago
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@scientific1982
Re: "Those statistics are bullshit."
Really, then if these are not correct, what are the correct figures, you moronic liar:
IRA Murders: 1,826
Of which:
British Army in Northern Ireland: 417
Loyalist Paramilitaries: 44
Others: 1365
awamoriwhiskey 7 months ago
@scientific1982
Re: "Those statistics are bullshit."
Really, then if these are not correct, what are the correct figures, you moronic liar:
IRA Murders: 1,826
Of which:
British Army in Northern Ireland: 417
Loyalist Paramilitaries: 44
Others: 1365
akiraobrian 6 months ago
@akiraobrian Doesnt matter how many times you repost inaccurate statistics, they'll always be inaccurate. The true statistics are up on the CAIN website for everyone to see.
scientific1982 6 months ago
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@scientific1982
"Doesnt matter how many times you repost inaccurate statistics, they'll always be inaccurate. The true statistics are up on the CAIN website for everyone to see."
They're from the CAIN website.
akiraobrian 6 months ago
@greatestXhits You can't prove they had no connections to the IRA. You would walk past any person and they might have had some small link to any of the Paramilitaries. I do not say these are acceptable murders non the less - but there is bad blood on both sides. The IRA murdered innocents too.
Triplicarius 6 months ago
@awamoriwhiskey Yeah exactly. Theres a reason for that.
scientific1982 7 months ago
The average English person doesn't giving a flying fuck about the prods in NI
Burncourtable 9 months ago 2
@Burncourtable Your point being? It has fuck all to do with England or the English. Prods in NI don't much care about the English either. It's about keeping in a Union that guarantees their rights - their right to work, do business, to practice their religion, and to live in their land, and not be forced out like the Protestants in the South post Free State.
MrOzanachronism 8 months ago
@MrOzanachronism in the south we have freedom of religion nearly every town has a presbyterian church and a catholic church.
greatestXhits 7 months ago
@MrOzanachronism Catholics were driven out of their homes by loyalists during the 1960's whereas Protestants in the Republic are afforded equal status. The Unionist cannot be trusted in power, hence the reason we have powersharing.
quiggzify 7 months ago
@Burncourtable The average English person doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone outside their own street. There lies the problem.
Blueblood1873 7 months ago
white looks like an older uglier balder version of brad pitt
crw45able 9 months ago
fascist, bigoted, sectarian scumbags.
peacefrog1916 9 months ago
I am from East Belfast originally,i am ashamed of these so called people who say they will die for God and Ulster,pls would My lord ever sanction such disgusting people.
May God forgive them,oh and i Love ALL OF IRELAND.
karmapeach 9 months ago 3
Pretty sad how much these Loyalists want to be English lol
pugghead 10 months ago
Very good series..Sectarianism whatever the divide is sad, so many innocent victims on both sides lying in graves
olebarca99 10 months ago
i live in Belfast and to be honest i wouldnt care if a protestant sat on my lap but in some areas i cant even speak because of my southern accent
pamongan1 10 months ago
The war had to be taken to the pan-nationalist Home Front. Protestant renegades who ran with Fenians put themselves in firing range and became unavoidable collateral damage. Good to see the old bulldogs and sterling machine guns. Excellent little weapons that killed bugs dead!
johnsammyanfal 10 months ago
harry currie must have been a fine lookin man in his day ioi , bet the shitebag hid in a crater while his scum mates were blown to bits or mangled in barbed wire , no enough a the skanky bastards died, only good for killin soft targets or like "johnny white" cuttin woman's throats , fuckin beast , in fact they must be the worst people in the world , how do u cut a woman's throat and still sleep , only oranges
stephenjamesfitz 11 months ago
good documentary,but a lot of it is full of shit. dont take these animals at face value they were killing innocent catholics in 1966, 4 years before the IRA fired a single shot. They also detonated the first large scale bomb that targeted civilians(mcgurks). They also killed the first police officer. They are affiliated with neo nazis, and today loyalist areas are still the most racist and hate filled in the country. The unspoken truth is a lot of loyalists believed catholics were sub human rats
TheJay9002 11 months ago
@TheJay9002 Peter Taylor is a very unbiased journalist. Of course a lot of Loyalists thought Catholics were sub human. Just like a lot of Republicans thought Protestants were sub human.
I think the documentary was as negative about Loyalists as you could expect. You can't expect a documentary just to emphasise how evil people are for an hour. Bear in mind that if you have grown up in Northern Ireland, your viewpoint is likely more biased to a particular side than Peter Taylor's.
MrRippy99 11 months ago
@MrRippy99 Are you from Northern Ireland?Having grown up in a republican area and having been a long time alliance party supporter and cross community activist who has many protestant friends, I can say without bias that republicans were not brought up to believe protestants were sub human. Apart from anything else, it is hard to believe the dominant group in a country is sub human. The loyalist attitude was often similar to whites in the southern states/S.Africa, although not as widespread.
TheJay9002 11 months ago
@TheJay9002 I totally agree. Wolfe Tone, Robert Emmet, Henry Joy McCracken, Charles Stuart Parnell, Roger Casement: all major figures in Irish Republicanism, all Protestants (Casement changed to Catholicism the day before he was excecuted), the first three men were the founding Fathers of Irish Republicanism: the United Irishmen. Proper Republicans dont care about religion, football or anything else except a belief in a 32 county United Ireland. I've many Protestant friends who're Republicans.
crossybhoy 9 months ago in playlist Loyalist Republican and the Brits 4
@crossybhoy All true, protestant men and women make up some of the best Irishmen and women that have ever walked on this island. Northern Irish loyalism took on a much more sinister character however, and I do believe it was similar in many ways to that ignorant, doomed and "ethnically superior" type of hatred shown by many whites in south Africa/southern states of USA. Which is sad. Ignorant fear and the fact many weren't really sure what they were fighting for made them sadistic animals.
TheJay9002 9 months ago 20
@TheJay9002 Thats the fucked up thing about it. People in the republic dont give a fuck what religion someone is. We've lived in peace with eachother since the foundation of the state. Crazy what fear of the other can do.
scientific1982 1 month ago
@scientific1982 Unfortunately that is not true at all.Protestants especially in the southern parts of the island had a very rough time during certain times.Houses burnt out etc.However the improvement in the last 2/3 decades has been superb and none of that exists anymore.How much of that has got to do with the downfall of the Catholic Church is debatable but whatever it is it has worked out well.Long may it continue.
1984ioc 1 month ago
scum
crickymufc12 11 months ago
Modern day Nazis , Adolf would be proud of you
seannfin 11 months ago
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@seannfin Both sides as bad as each other
chrissywoodvale 11 months ago
I wonder if Paul Wilson was so upset when various British Governments met IRA murdering scumbags?
MsTheFonz 1 year ago
This is the biggest load of bullshit british propaganda I have ever seen. For the whole program they talk about the loyalists as if they were only reacting to the IRA. The border campaign in the late 50s early 60s had practically no support from the nationalist population of Northern Ireland. It was a disaster for the IRA. You had a Unionist goverment that would not share power with nationalists or give them voting rites. In Derry the population was 53,744, of which 36,049 was Catholic and...
tcla75 1 year ago
and 17,695 Protestant yet unionists had a majority of seats on the city council. You had the RUC stand by watching while loyalists mobs would beat the shit out of and burn out nationalists families out of their home and when the Civil Rights movement started you had the RUC beat the shit out of the protesters because it was not the IRA the the Unionist powers fared it was losing total dominance of power.Basil Brooke said...Catholics are out to destroy Ulster...
tcla75 1 year ago
...If we in Ulster allow Roman Catholics to work on our farms we are traitors to Ulster...He was the Prime Minister of Northern Ireland from 1943 to 1963. The Prime Minister. This is what the nationalist population had to live with in Northern Ireland but its not the 1st time we have seen a people treated this way. We saw it in the 50s where African Americans had to fight for rights in the Southern states and the Apartheid system in South Africa. The oppressors believed and told the world that
tcla75 1 year ago
they were only defending themselves from attack and their way of life but the rest of the world saw through their bullshit but I must say the British Media did a great propaganda job of covering up the real reasons why the troubles started in the 1st place but you know what BBC propaganda only works in the short term because over time the truth always comes out and in time history will judge the Unionist people not as defenders but oppressors.
tcla75 1 year ago
@tcla75
Peter Taylor goes into the origins of the conflict itself better in the episodes on the Provos available on this guys channel. These videos are simply about the loyalists
ThePintsizeslasher 11 months ago
As someone raised Catholic in Australia but of English/Irish background, I've always wished for a United Ireland, but love the Good Friday Agreement's stipulations that enact peace and ensure that if Northern Ireland has a Republican majority it will join the Republic, but until then it's part of the UK, that's pure democracy.
I abhor any terrorism, done by the IRA or UVF. I regret the death of any innocent Protestant as much as any Catholic.
trixwiz7 1 year ago
But if someone had killed Ian Paisley, I wouldn't have shed many tears at all. When I've heard of innocent Protestant men, women and children dying, I've been moved to tears. But as far as I'm concerned Ian Paisley has been guilty of more bloodshed than anyone in the Troubles, and is a slimy bastard in the way he's done it indirectly. Although I wager he's been involved in some things, a slimier bastard still for denying it if so.
trixwiz7 1 year ago
If Paisley hadn't whipped up such resistance against the Catholic civil rights movement (which was fair and no different to what Ghandi did), then a lot fewer people would have died. His speeches have been responsible for countless deaths. Any terrorist act is awful, but the World would have been much better off if the IRA hadn't killed a brilliant peace loving man like Lord Mountbatten, but instead taken out Paisley
trixwiz7 1 year ago
no surrender
scoobyycv 1 year ago
say what u like aussie ......he is a loyalist is he not no surrender from glasgow
fergusons080 1 year ago
u cant blame 1 side without blameing the orther
slaneslau 1 year ago
Nothing about being loyal atall just phsyco path killers !!
jpob1988 1 year ago
Born & Raised in Australia but a Loyalist At Heart Parents from Armagh , County Armagh my dad was hardcore supporter of Armagh Brigade UVF and had a Uncle who was with RUC ....... NO SURRENDER BOYS :)
Jimbo7010Tas 1 year ago
@Jimbo7010Tas You're an Aussie. Your opinion doesnt matter.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
@Jimbo7010Tas fuck up u twat look up the uvfs list of actions on wikipedia pack of yellow bastards
djleesus09 1 year ago
@djleesus09 The UVF's aim was to protect the union. What did the IRA acheive? A united ireland? lol
prideofulster 1 year ago
IRA are Heroes fuck UDA/UFF's C Company Simply the shitest
deadguy190 1 year ago
taken the war to the ira? wa?
weewheels24 1 year ago
dirty drug dealing cunts
bgraybhoy 1 year ago
The B specials didn't counter the IRA, they targeted Catholics.
suppernoddypo2k7 1 year ago
They British establishment in 1913 confiscated nationalist weapons, while sponsoring the Unionists, essentially for if worst came to the worst the British parliament had endorsed the unionists.
suppernoddypo2k7 1 year ago
Britain did not have a ''policy'' of giving Ireland home rule. And in the end the Unionists got home rule anyway.
suppernoddypo2k7 1 year ago
watever about the provos and the brits.the loyalists were the most savage.fuck sake butchers.
col52 1 year ago
@MMAC0RE lol Henry vlll didnt create Protestantism. So unless your under 10yrs old (in which case im sorry) your a complete cunt.
patsyd80 1 year ago
@patsyd80 in a way he did,he protested against rome,martin luther was at the same time he protested as well.religeon is man made ,so some cunt can control u,its all bollocks.its a blight on this planet.rabbies nuns priests vickers,holy men deserve nothing but contempt.
sunkcontrol 1 year ago
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@sunkcontrol So I take it you dont believe in God then?.
patsyd80 1 year ago
wow it seems from this doc that Irish people from all sides of the politcal divide are quite cod blooded and brutal. Even seems like the clergy get in on the act of death and destruction aswell. Suppose you just gotta pick your colours and fight the good fight best you can. No surrender and god save the queen.
patsyd80 1 year ago
@MMAC0RE You are just wrong all around, first of all, most Ulster loyalists are Scottish Presbyterians not Anglicans.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@MMAC0RE Oh that is where the Protestant religion came from? King Henry?? God you are ignorant. Catholicism is not Bible Christianity.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
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@irafenian up the Continuity. Tiocfaidh Ar La comrade.
crossybhoy 1 year ago
@irafenian Fuck up ya twat !
chrissywoodvale 1 year ago
if all them loyalists love the uk so much why dont they fuck back
mufc1970ok 1 year ago
lenny murphy lookin up not down
mufc1970ok 1 year ago
hahaha go ahead john where are you now?? haha you fucking murdering bastard.
toptrichs 1 year ago
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The ruling elite with their puppet figurehead,Queen Elizabeth the Second,Strut about on the million of bodies That they have sacrificed to gain their position.Who are they but the inheritors of their ancestors greed and theft? Their blood stained flags, These rulers are common murderers and thieves,But still you bow before them. For how long will the masses be so pathetically manipulated by God, Queen and Country?
dethbed77 1 year ago
The IRA lost that war thankfully!
bobslay12 1 year ago
@bobslay12 You're an idiot.
The IRA didn't lose anything. The ICA (which turned into the IRA) is the reason why theres an Ireland today.
its just unfortunate the IRA didn't finish all the ignorant people like yourself.
mugmugmug11 1 year ago
@mugmugmug11
IRA couldnt finish a thing
Their too cowardly to stand up and face down the UDA
TheresAGhostInMyBeer 1 year ago
@TheresAGhostInMyBeer seeing as after michael stones attack on miltown the uda rung the ira leadership and aplogised and said he wasnt one of theres lmao read the book inside the uda
djleesus09 1 year ago
up the IRA
calBHA1 1 year ago
@calBHA1
No i just wanna kill them :D
bobslay12 1 year ago
Can anyone please tell me what the name of the song being played at 6:15 is? Much appreciated.
padraic2001eire 1 year ago
no one has the right to murder , god is the only one has the right to say who lives or dies , for murders uvf, ira whatever god was watching what you did
mufc1970ok 1 year ago
@mufc1970ok You failed to mention the British Army amongst those who have murdered. Care to explain why?
FreckletonBoy 1 year ago
@FreckletonBoy no one has the right to take life only god almighty he alone has the say on who lives or dies , no govournment , dictater, no terrorist
mufc1970ok 1 year ago
@mufc1970ok God says we can take a life if theyre guilty of being a betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped, A woman who is found not to have been a virgin on the night of her wedding, Worshiping other gods, Taking God's name in vain or cursing God's name and Cursing a parent. God dosnt sound like a nice guy
zoso7889 1 year ago
Hasn't John White apparently turned to religion now since his drug running operation in Bolton collapsed?
Shagrat65 1 year ago
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Northern Ireland is British.
BritishBeliever 1 year ago
Whats the name of the song there playing at 6.15 ?
theblackmafia71 1 year ago
@theblackmafia71 ITS CALLED MADE UP PISH FOR WANKS : ) YOU PROBABLY HAVE IT ALREADY : ): ): )
Che870 1 year ago
wankers
180paddyT 1 year ago
the Ulster Loyalists have links to the BNP, the BPP, the NF and C18
BOLSHEVIXTREME 1 year ago
Some loyalists have made mistakes in killing innocent civilians. but go ahead kill all Sinn fein , IRA , INLA 32 csm members and all supporters of the militant republican movements.
UnitedLoyalistFront 1 year ago
some freedom fighting the loyalists done mudering them 2 poor souls at the start of this video RIP
BestLoyalistMusic10 1 year ago 8
ffs anyone on hear saying the IRA didnt target innocent people are full of shite how many no warning bombs were placed during the troubles? The IRA killed men/women/kids of all ages FACT both catholics and protestant died if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time then you died they didnt care'.
And Ireland will never be United, the Republic dont want it and the majority of people in Northern Ireland dont want it so either join the Dissidents or fuck up.
KingPhilly1690 1 year ago 2
@KingPhilly1690 As the devil said to the priest in the exorcist, in time........in time.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
why can't the both sides keep the civilians out of it all? reconsiliation is much easier if the civilians are not affected.
polishranger 1 year ago 2
@polishranger i agree lets target the terriosts in goverment , dont worry it will happen soon enough
BestLoyalistMusic10 1 year ago
when Ireland is united that statue should be ripped down just like when america ripped down the statue of saddam in iraq
yourmadyouare 1 year ago
aye and ira are innocent propaganda
weejammie1690 1 year ago
fucking prod hun cunts, the UVF killed innocent people that had nothing to do with the RA
davidstmckenn 1 year ago
at the end of the day it doesnt matter who controls the north of Ireland
because the EU controls it no matter what!
time to end the fighting!
honestpatriot09 1 year ago
The terrorist actions of the republican movement created the loyalist paramilitaries. The loyalist paramilitaries are nothing but clones of the IRA. The Northern Protestants of Ulster wish to remain protestant and keep a sort of British identity the fenians should not try to force the Irish state upon them.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
You've got it all wrong, which isn't surprising probably living 2000 miles away. The Republican Movement didn't create the Loyalists, neither did they try to ethnically cleanse Ireland of Protestants, if you knew your arse from your elbow you'd know that it was the other way about and Republicans never targeted Protestant civilians, just security forces and the army, the meat head loyalists tried to get in on the act by colluding with the Brits, thats when they were put in their place.....
jefftipps 2 years ago
@jefftipps The IRA killed many innocents including catholics. The Illuminati (revolutionary athiests some of who were apostate protestants)were behind the United Irishmen. This is recorded in many works such as "The Secret Societies of Ireland" by Captain H.B.C Pollard, "The Application of Barruel's Memoirs of Jacobinism to the Secret Societies of Ireland and Great Britain" by R. C. Clifford, "Occult Theocracy" by Lady Queensborough and "Fire in the Minds of Men" by James Billington.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Just because you can use wikipedia doesn't mean you can copy paste some shit about the united Irishmen and pass it off as if you were already well read on the subject. My advice to you would be to keep your opinions about things you know fuck-all-squared about to yourself. It hasn't been about Catholicism for a very long time and the driving force is a United Ireland. You should worry about the carnage your own country is causing at the minute in Afghanistan.
jefftipps 2 years ago
Hmmm, I didnt use wikipedia once are you kidding? But I did suggest several books and a pamphlet to you. If you were a protestant you would believe in God and would not be a fenian. You republicans have your state, now let the Ulster protestants have the state which they desire.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Catholics believe in God too, and of course a Fenian is a Catholic nowadays, but you being so far away without a notion of what your blithering on about wouldn't know this.
jefftipps 2 years ago
The island of Ireland was an Irish state for Irish people even before Catholicism and Protestantism existed.
Your an ignorant American, worry about your own country and i'll worry about mine, I live here after all and have had to put up with friends being killed, family being killed and all sorts of fucked up shit you couldn't even imagine, so fuck off and mind your own busiiness you ignorant clown.
jefftipps 2 years ago
Ulster is my business. My nation (America) owes Ulster a debt of gratitude.
You do not understand what I am "blithering on about" because you do not know your history.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Go ahead enlighten me, whats this great debt of gratitude America owes Ulster??
jefftipps 2 years ago
You apparently do not know the history of the Ulster-Scotch in America (in the U.S we call them Scotch-Irish). To help you understand I will drop a few quotes about the Scotch-Irish....
"It is doubtful that we have fully realised the part played by this stern and virile people. They formed the kernel of that American stock who were the pioneers of our people in their march westward." - Theodore Roosevelt
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
@WorshipInTruth
Why don't you go and fuck yourself you hateful, shite peddling wanker.
Your paranoia would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
I'll bet you hate everyone who isn't as white, protestant and stupid as you are.
Go piss up a lamppost you rotten cuntsicle.
eezysqueezy 2 years ago
What did I say that gave you the impression that I was hateful towards anybody?
You are the one who sounds like a hateful child.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
@WorshipInTruth
Well you've basically credited the ulster scots with building up all the finest aspects of America whilst blaming the Irish and Italians (both catholic countries. Is this a coincidence I wonder....?) for all the crime and shit that went on.
You sound not only biased and unbalanced, you also sound bitter and stupid.
You are the only ignorant child here.
eezysqueezy 2 years ago
Well it is the truth. If speaking the truth makes me a "bigot" than so be it.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
@WorshipInTruth
How can it be the truth when you speak in stupid absolutes? Absolutes which are inane when applied to life in general. So every Irish and Italian person in America was a thief and a gangster, whilst the ulster scots were all, to a man and woman, fine decent people who built America up.
This is just crap. People from all races and walks of life are good and bad. There's no one 'good race'...except to moronic bigots like you, of course.
Your 'truth' is horseshit.
eezysqueezy 2 years ago
I was not speaking in any absolute but was making a generality, a general statement.
It is absolutely true that the mass waves of catholic and jewish immigrants brought their organized crime and intrigue with them to America. But I am not labeling all irish or italians or jews as criminals.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
So you didn't say the Italians and Irish "helped to bring crime, gangsterism and poverty to America's cities."
Your theory reveals an innate racism on your part because, put simply, a large influx of extremely poor people (whatever their race) arriving ANYWHERE where the resources and space are at a premium will lead to a surge in crime and gangsterism. It's only logical.
You could make the same argument about a massive influx of Germans or Swiss.
Which is why your theory is crap.
eezysqueezy 2 years ago
First of all, racism and bigotry is not "innate". It is something you learn from experience and knowledge. You are the one who is revealing a complete ignorance of history. America already did experience a mass influx of Germans and others prior to the mass roman catholic immigration of the 19th century. Those Germans and others also came to America broke and penniless yet they lived completely law abiding and God fearing lives. In fact, they were extremely hard workers.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
There is something known as the "Protestant Work Ethic". Puritans and others came to the Americas with nothing when it was a wilderness and turned it into a civilization, all the while seeking to serve God in everything they did. So poverty is not an excuse for the gangsterism and organized crime which the catholic immigrants brought to America.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
But at least the Italian and Irish immigrants were largely legal immigrants, that is more then can be said for America's current latino catholic invaders.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
My Puritan and protestant forefathers came to America to escape that persecuting devil known as catholicism, as well as its smaller cousin anglicanism (anglo-catholicism). Unfortunately, the devil eventually followed us here. Of course I am bitter, my once God fearing constitutionally restrained government has turned into an athiestical, limitless and imperialistic empire.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
The Puritans and your forefathers? Have you actually stopped to listen to how completely insane and irrelevant you sound? So they fled Europe due to persecution. It was hundreds of years ago. Get over it. Besides, didn't your lovely ancestors then go on to persecute and practically destroy the entire Native American culture?
Now there's a genocide you and your lousy fucking forefathers don't like talking about...
You have no basis for anything you fucking complete, astronomical moron.
eezysqueezy 2 years ago
They brought civilization and industriousness to an untamed land which was scarcely inhabited by a savage heathen pagan people. The various native tribes were warring with each other and committing genocide on each other long before any whites came to the Americas. In spite of the popular propaganda, there are actually thousands of cases where natives and whites worked together and befriended each other.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
It is only natural that the superior culture and society would flourish while the inferior culture would do the opposite.
Remember, the natives were also guilty of many barbaric attacks on humble pilgrim settlers. The land I live on was not stolen from the natives but was BOUGHT AND PAID FOR, from the natives, by William Penn and his band of tolerant-protestant Bible believing Quakers who had peaceful relations with the American natives.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
If you want to talk about truely barbaric, genocidal and awful crimes committed on American natives then look no further then the actions of the papist conquistadors. The conquistadors committed mass rape, torture and, according to first hand sources, actually seemed to enjoy it. They personally destroyed advanced and prosperous native empires such as the Inca and Maya's (which did not exist in North America). I affirm that the "Black Legend" about spanish barbarity is absolutely true.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
The difference is that while my protestant pilgrim forefathers merely sought to secure land and protection [seperation] from the natives, the conquistadors sought to CONQUER and CONTROL the native peoples.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Somehow I knew before hand that you would bring up the ill treatment of natives in order to try to besmirch the good name of the founders of my country. A common tactic which is employed by your modern everyday brainwashed idiot.
History IS relevant, you are just an immature child who is completely out of touch with that.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Oh, and by the way, is it a coincidence [you wonder] that most of the organized crime came to the U.S from catholic countries?
CERTAINLY NOT!!
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Funny - six replies, and yet you still sound like a pathetic WASP who's been programmed by years of bullshit from their idiotic WASP parents.
I especially like your assertion that your forefathers were merely seeking to "secure land and protection" when they swindled and butchered all those Indians.
What a polite way to dress up mass murder...
Maybe that's how you people do it? Commit shameful acts, steal a country from some people and then lie about it.
What a fine tradition...
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
Pathetic WASP? Your hatred and indoctrination is showing itself. My parents have not indoctrinated me at all, they know little of history. I have taught myself through a thorough study of history.
What I say is true. While the results did not bode well for the inferior culture, the original intentions of the "WASP" settlers was not to "butcher indians".
I thought you said what happened hundreds of years ago does not matter? Now you say, YOU PEOPLE do this and that?
Are you kidding?
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
You have been taught to hate that which is excellent. Quite sad really....
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
It's a little rich for you to complain about me making historical references when you've done the same countless times and come up with the simplistic, naive and stupid notion that the Irish and Italians alone brought "gangsterism" to the previously unsullied, Utopian land of milk and honey that was America.
I was merely pointing out that YOUR proudly proclaimed history has murderers, cheats and swindlers (they bought the land HAHAHAHA) aplenty.
Seems fair enough, don't you think?
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
eezysqueezy, I was noting your hypocrisy with making "historical references". I was not claiming that every individual "WASP" is a good person or that there was no crime in Amercia before the mass catholic immigration but what I said stands on MERIT. I have heard of the Italian mob, the Irish mob etc. Have you ever heard of the WASP mob?
William Penn did in fact purchase the land from his indian friends, that is a historical fact. You come off sounding like an idiot.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
No, I have never heard of the "WASP" mob. Perhaps this is because the "WASPs" became the middle/upper classes and did their thieving and pilfering BEFORE the Irish and Italians arrived.
As for William Penn; I have no doubt he PAID for the land he got. I also have know doubt that he drastically UNERPAID the poor guy he got the land from.
And you can post as many poems as you want. It doesn't change the fact that that your forefathers were murderers and thieves who stole a country.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy "Stole a country"?? You truely are ridiculous. There was no "country" here when they arrived. It was a vast wilderness inhabitated by various native tribes who warred against each other. The world would be a far worse place (less prosperous and free) if the European had never ventured into the New World.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
William Penn underpaid the poor guy? Not likely. You apparently do not know much about the Quaker community of the 17th century. The natives had much land they could move to at the time so they did not consider the future. It is always better to invest in land than in material goods or wealth. Historically, that has been something which the white man has understood and which the dark man has taken for granted. They made a bad investment.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
Ah, so now we get to it And by "it" I mean the barely disguised racism and superiority complex which lies at the heart of every single bullshit argument you have posited here. "The white man" and "the dark man".....please.
I believe the names you are looking for are the exploited and the exploiter.
You really are a man in the wrong era. I would suggest that Berlin circa 1939 would be more your scene given how you obviously view yourself as part of some superior race.
Bye Adolf.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy
Superior "race" no. Superior culture yes.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@eezysqueezy this is about religion not nazism
BOLSHEVIXTREME 1 year ago
@BOLSHEVIXTREME The Nazi's persecuted people based on their religion. The two are inextricably linked.
Read a book for fucks sake.
eezysqueezy 1 year ago