Vision Thing changed my listening habits!!! For six months after that, I couldn't buy any more so called rock records! I just got in again with them fooking Stone Roses!
@maryjTheSovran Rock'n'Roll? Come on, be serious, Primal Scream might be better than Rolling Stones, but are they Rock'n'Roll? So are you kidding by naming THIS Rock'n'Roll? THAT'S MUSIC FOR THE BALLS, Dudess! Rock'n'Roll is shape, THIS is attitude!!! Torquemada! Who else names him in a song?
Emos are depressing little folk that need to cheer up and get a sharp razor. Goths were fun loving party animals... a bloody good time was had by all!
gawd the sisters of mercy make me cum :P and for those who r disillusioned with the young'uns im 19 and love these guys, and my sister is 16 and loves them more :D
After having bought Vision Thing I couldn't buy any rock record for surely the next six month. This rec has changed my view on what's cool good rock - a bang right in the kisser, nothing more or less. This rec has given my rock life a cool new.
I'm not your Friend! you miss read my reply. Try again. I have a large extensive collection of genre, 78's to cd's, from opera to todays music which I have played in many different venues from '73-'90. You don't know me or what I know about anything or everything. So, judge not before you judge yourself.
Yes, that´s true, I don´t know you, and I miss read your reply, if you´re against the new kind of garbage called Tecnho Goth, I agree with you, sorry.
No probs, I'm opened minded when it comes 2 all genres, bands, songs etc. and am willing 2 experience new world sounds. There r some 'songs' which I dislike, some may say 'garbage', yet, 'one mans garbage is another man's treasure". I find keeping my personal opinions 2 myself, if the're neg. is best. I used to manage an afterhours n on Wed. nites we put on 'PARIAH NITE' (the OUTCASTS). alot of underground, Goth, Dark Dance, we had alot of street people too. (they needed a home...lol). Peace!
I don´t now where you from, I`m Portuguese. I don´t now the places you´ve mentionate, but probably I would like the music on those. Where I live, Oporto, we have some places like Heaven´s, M 80 or Bateau, where Dj´s put some "treasures". On Heaven´s, Goth rules, but unfortunatly for me, it´s mainly electroGoth, if you ask some of the kids in there who were/are Sisters of Mercy, they will answer "who???".
I went a weekend to Oporto some years ago in January because there were cheap Ryanair tickets from Frankfurt-Hahn, and the temperature in Oporto was very nice :)
Loved it! we were probably the only tourists, got robbed unfortunately :( had inexpensive but delicious food, went to the seaside. If I ever go again, I'll check out the places you mentioned. I'd be happy to hear some electrogoth!
@Glitterbladejester That's wonderful, except, of course, Patricia didn't play on this album...it's also said that she didn't play on Floodland either...so basically, you play bass because of an unknown session bass player and the fact that you think she looks hot.
@steveobie1 - of course she was good enough to play with legendary band The Damned. She has chops and is amazing, Why are you so down on session players? Most session players are better than the musicians in front of the camera that get credit.
@TruckerMessiah I'm not 'down' on anybody, especially not session musicians, I just pointed out that Morrison didn't play on this song or album (and she was more famous for being in Gun Club, rather than joining a worn our version of the Damned)
@Glitterbladejester Pretty much what steveobie1 said. Tony James actually played bass on the Vision Thing album (he was also in Generation X).
As for Patricia Morrison during Floodland, I also used to think she was a kick-ass bassist, and was really disappointed when I found out that she pretty much did jack for recording that album. Whoever *did* play bass on Floodland, however, was awesome.
I agree with you aesthetically, but they're both sub-genres of rock music, and media coined phrases used to describe a diverse range of music. Eldritch rejected the tagline of "gothic." The point I'm trying to make is that it sucks to be lumped into a category of which you feel there is no relation, and that's what the media is doing now and has always done just to sell a product.
I was 8 when I discovered Floodland. (I'm 29 now). I have always seen Sisters Of Mercy as a rock band with a singer with a unique voice, nothing more. They just rock. They made good music. It's not even dark music-it's poppy and you can dance to it. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
I just got turned onto this band last week, I heard vision thing and my first thought was that ministry had got really poppy. I really like this band because they can sound really upbeat and poppy but still dark at the same time.
The Sister's early material might be compatible with other so called "goth" bands, Vision Thing clearly is not. It shouldn't matter what you sound like though; if your music happens to sound like what the media portrays as "goth" who cares. The media now uses the term "emo" which is a far worse label.
Thank you Pythonbird yeah i was a Goth in the 80's still am inside just grew out of wearing just black nobody seems to have mentioned the queen herself Siouxsie she was the epitemy of goth its not enough to just listen too the music and dress in black its a state of mind!
'billjesusgates'-firstly, are you english? secondly, are you in your late 30's-early 40's and thirdly someone has been leading you up the garden path!! With a name like billjesusgates, no wonder you want to change its genre. Oh, and im really not that bovvered what you think, im just repling for something to do!!
i admit that you don't hear too much country in this song but its there. so i call it "country rock n' roll." do you know that country music can be very dark?
It's funny that would be brought up. Eldritch himself was always exremely pointed in distancing himself from the whole "goth" phenominon. And yes, I'd have to say this song has country/blues influences.
GOTHS DID EXIST IN THE 8O'S. AT LEAST THEY DID IN THE UK, COS I WAS ONE OF THEM. Although, it was the mid to late 80's, oh how i miss Liberties on a wednesday night!!!
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Guys! Goth didn't exist in the 80s.
Goth is just the generation of Joy Division wannabes who stood behind Marylin Manson in the 90s. Goth these days is just a mis-interpretation of Emo. Yuck.
Remember, Alister Crowley. Dracula. Barbie dolls with black sharpie bondysuits. This was the foundation for this facet of 80s new wave.
Goth did exist in the 80s for sure! WTF. We called it death rock mostly.
The music referred to was a fairly broad range of DARK stuff from Christian Death, Death in June, Lydia Lunch, Birthday Party, (some) Cure, Siouxsie, Virgin Prunes, Minimal Man, etc.
Tell me that music from the late 70s to the mid 80s is not what lots of people would call goth.
Actually the gothic subculture owes it's roots to punk and post-punk rockers such as The Damned, Bauhaus, The Sisters of Mercy (early material) and The Cure. Bauhaus was one of the first bands to have the "goth" label attached to them. As for emo, sweater vests, girls jeans, black rimmed glasses and bands like Jimmy Eats World and The Ataris. IDK how goth got mixed up with that subculture, fucking media.
chillentoka, they did exist -i had a very good friend at college back in '89, nicknamed 'The Bat' by one of our lecturers, who had the whole thing going on. cultured, erudite and slightly vampiric gentleman, the epitome of goth.
"Eldritch wrote songs about girls, drugs, and cars."
I would say that girls, drugs, and cars were just essential themes. True, he had a simplistic lyrical style, but most of his songs seem to have an underlying message referencing society.
Goth is a sham. Yeah, the music is amazing, but what its supposed to mean and relate to, as well as the general misconceptions about it, really don't add up.
Eldritch wrote songs about girls, drugs, and cars.
Peter Murphy mostly wrote about the same things Danzig and Rob Zombie would years later, but because Bauhaus was minimalistic, its "gothic."
Just enjoy the music, because it IS good, but if we have to argue, Lou Reed's "Berlin" and Bowie's "Low" are more "gothic" than Eldritch.
No, Bauhaus is labelled as gothic rock because that is the genre they play.
Sisters =/= goth, because there isn't really much of a punk influence in their sound. You could probably file them under darkwave, though I suspect old man Eldritch would hate that even more.
Goth, gothic, new wave, post punk, dark wave, industrial, ambient dancehall etc are all inventions of bored journalists. However, if there has to be a first Goth band it would be Gloria Mundi or maybe Adam and the Ants.
Your opinion of some obsolete 90s pop group is beside the point (though I agree with you, they are crap).
I can picture ambient dancehall now actually, it's a series of peaceful droning sounds with an angry Jamaican bloke spitting homophobic abuse over the top of it. Mmm.
I sort of see The Doors and The Velvet Underground sort of starting the goth thing with some of their music. Even Bowie maybe even Syd Barrett. But Bauhaus yeah. All the way Goth. Loved those guys. They put it all together.
I have never seen a reference to Joy Division being Goth, they originated from a Punk band called Warsaw, Ian Cutis only joined later. One would call them Indie today.
No they are not Goth. But along with other post-punk bands, they were seen as influential. Even some Iggy and the Stooges is deemed "goth-ish". Thing with Joy Division though, is that they were the first band to be described by a critic as "gothic" due to stage presence and Ian Curtis's singing style. Thus, they are inextricably linked with the movement they helped christen.
Ian Curtis was in Warsaw! Want to know why Joy Division are the first goth band? Their music! Gee wizz. Just because a band looks goth doesn't make them goth. It's the music that counts. Go watch JD perform "Transmission" then watch the video from Bauhuas "She's in Parties" and tell me they didn't rip them off! And another thing, being Goth is totally queercake. I mean, if a person has to look a certain way for them to be goth then that whole scene is fucking shallow.
We can go on forever here, enjoy the music. Opinions can not be argued, only facts. Fact is I enjoy JD, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy and many more from this period, I really don't care for what genre they are attached to. The sad thing is we don't get to see these performers anymore, we are subjected to so much fabrication of music. It's about the fame and money today, not creativity.
Only on youtube will you find morons who throw all logic out the window. You know you're an idiot when you think facts can be argued. Fact: sky is blue, convince me otherwise. Opinion: running is the bets form of exercise. Nope, no arguing with running but the colour of the sky is an open topic.
lol -str8ngthofh3rc - Look Herc, look! Sky: Blue is the color (spectrum) of the the sun's rays travelling through our atmosphere as it reflects and refracts off airborne particles bla bla bla...running: best form of exercise, generally speaking. Blood and oxygen flow, energy used, transfered...bla bla bla..lol...logic: The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning
Goth is just a boring newly invented expression, in 80's when SoM become big there was way better musical style categorisation, for this one I would call Industrial Hardcore Rock
Think you're wrong mate. They were always known as Goth, it isn't a new expression. Along with Fields of the Nephilim and Mission they began the Goth scene. The Damned were classed as the Grandfathers of Goth but in reality that was down to Dave Vanian putting a white streak in his hair and releasing Grimly Fiendish, they were actually Punk.
Sorry to say but the 1st ever goth band was Bauhaus and bauhaus get they influnece in Joy Division. But the scene is not like in the 80's right now MTV's and other things are selling band's that aren't goth at all was gothic bands.
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Sounds as awful as in my memories. That band should have ceased to exist after the split. Everything Eldritch did after 1986 was just exploiting the name.
1985: f+a+l+a+a, 1987: floodland, 1990: vision thing, 1992: some girls wander by mistake & 1993: a slight case of overbombing (both compilations of single releases). ev'rything else is bootleg stuff...
Sorry but this blows. I got First and last and Always when it came out and I was hooked. Floodland was great. Man was I bummed when Vision Thing came out. What a sub par piece of crap. The early singles, First and Last and Always, and Floodland were the best.
i would have agreed with you earlier but not anymore.i have always prefered First and Last and Always and Floodland to Vision Thing but now i enjoy it a lot more than even Floodland:P
sick. all time greatest hits of life.
NekroLogiKScripting 3 days ago
Andrew Eldritch the most hottest musician and poet in history <3
xxeldritchsoulxx 3 weeks ago
yeyeyeyeeeee
STICHYZ 2 months ago in playlist Sisters of Mercy
sexy andy <3
marinlabyrinth 2 months ago in playlist Sisters of Mercy
Actually, they are still the coolest band ever
sunndrac 3 months ago
Driving music ;)
kryten77 4 months ago
Eldritch: best jawline in rock history.
gauchohat 5 months ago 11
:@
welickovic 7 months ago
watch: youtube.com/watch?v=n8i8pP3lcAU
vlada881 8 months ago
I got wrecked out here in a eldorado
emoffit 8 months ago 2
punk rock saved my life but sisters of mercy made it more entertaining
idiot4aday 9 months ago 4
damn. cant get this voice out of my head, wispering in my ear...1:21 aaaahhh
wasschoenes70 9 months ago
I didn't know this existed! The video is awesome! Is it a Matt Mahurin video? loved it.
ERASETHEFUTURENOW 10 months ago
only song i never liked by this group.....that shows how good they are
hellchild65 11 months ago
Should I upload a higher quality audio file?
XC2long4u 1 year ago
@XC2long4u Yes please!
HowieL666 6 months ago
@HowieL666
It's in my videos. :D
XC2long4u 6 months ago
i fucked like a dog to this when she was young :)
nevets7200 1 year ago
fucked like a dog to this yum yum bang bang :)
and she was young,so was i . fuckin hell have a word with yourself :)
nevets7200 1 year ago
I'm in love with 0:55!
CerebralCrisis 1 year ago
Kume - RESPECT!!!
welickovic 1 year ago
In one row with Young Gods' "Envoyé", this buggertune!!!
inspiralroses 1 year ago
Vision Thing changed my listening habits!!! For six months after that, I couldn't buy any more so called rock records! I just got in again with them fooking Stone Roses!
inspiralroses 1 year ago
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boring and tuneless.
dean0waterz 1 year ago
Das Telefon,..zerriss schon die Stille,..!
Nur Tod,..um Mich,..dein lachen/schatten/dertod,…..klingt in meinem Ohren,..alleine,..
Das Ende ist nahe,..der Moment bleibt,..wir beenden es,…..im TV
Ohne Telefon,..im geheimen,…ganz alleine!
Zum SCHLUSS,..sind wir,..@lle allone,..wir schließen alle Türe,….beenden,..uns,..in uns,..in der HEIMAT!
Wir haben keine SCHMERZEN mehr in UNS!
Wir sind ALLEINE,..WIR schließen ab!
Der SCHLUSSMOMENT KOMMT BESTIMMT!
Wir sind am ENDE!
DirkLesniewski 1 year ago
the sisters of mercy are not a dark or goth band, they're the best rock'n roll band ever,
amen
maryjTheSovran 1 year ago
@maryjTheSovran Rock'n'Roll? Come on, be serious, Primal Scream might be better than Rolling Stones, but are they Rock'n'Roll? So are you kidding by naming THIS Rock'n'Roll? THAT'S MUSIC FOR THE BALLS, Dudess! Rock'n'Roll is shape, THIS is attitude!!! Torquemada! Who else names him in a song?
inspiralroses 1 year ago
Were?????
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Geil...sisters sind einfach nur der hammer ....!!!
12smarty70 1 year ago
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Geil...sisters sind einfach nur der hammer ....!!!
12smarty70 1 year ago
ANDREW ELDRITCH FUCKS OUR MOTHERS!
agentsteel33 1 year ago
that is fck the bst
Waldek1230 1 year ago
Vision Thing--what an amazing album!
sugarandspice4815 1 year ago 3
this song = my boyfriend
panapanapaty 1 year ago 2
Agreed
Damious254 1 year ago
Emos are depressing little folk that need to cheer up and get a sharp razor. Goths were fun loving party animals... a bloody good time was had by all!
pinlighter 1 year ago 5
@pinlighter Agreed. Emos make me feel uncomfortable, whereas guys like SOM and Bauhaus just ROCK!
sugarandspice4815 1 year ago
i got wrecked out here, in el dorado
mrlee192 1 year ago
gawd the sisters of mercy make me cum :P and for those who r disillusioned with the young'uns im 19 and love these guys, and my sister is 16 and loves them more :D
acidlollypops 1 year ago 2
@acidlollypops brilliant mate! sisters knows no age! welcome to a world of awesome music, people from your age should spread the word! peace!
uhmcliterissa 1 year ago
andrews hamburg influence..
SheerFaith1 1 year ago
I love this song, looks like my life today...
atufaile 2 years ago
My favorite Sister's Tune. Very powerful and very dark.
timbuk67 2 years ago 5
and just plain BADASS!
GuyWhoWearsShirt 2 years ago 2
After having bought Vision Thing I couldn't buy any rock record for surely the next six month. This rec has changed my view on what's cool good rock - a bang right in the kisser, nothing more or less. This rec has given my rock life a cool new.
inspiralroses 2 years ago 3
Ahhh, the good old 90' when Goth was merging with techno... love it! Wonder what is next?
hal9thou001 2 years ago 3
@hal9thou001 sisters are WAY earlier than that...look it up
prostheticfriend 2 years ago
Um... yeah.... I know that.... This was just one aging Goth band that decided to start merging with the new techno/agro sound.
hal9thou001 2 years ago
What's next...u got me..prob some Buck Rogers (70's tv) garbage...
CYRAPHYM 2 years ago
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RickRocha1973 2 years ago
Friend, you don´t know shit what this is about...
RickRocha1973 2 years ago
I'm not your Friend! you miss read my reply. Try again. I have a large extensive collection of genre, 78's to cd's, from opera to todays music which I have played in many different venues from '73-'90. You don't know me or what I know about anything or everything. So, judge not before you judge yourself.
CYRAPHYM 2 years ago
Yes, that´s true, I don´t know you, and I miss read your reply, if you´re against the new kind of garbage called Tecnho Goth, I agree with you, sorry.
RickRocha1973 2 years ago
No probs, I'm opened minded when it comes 2 all genres, bands, songs etc. and am willing 2 experience new world sounds. There r some 'songs' which I dislike, some may say 'garbage', yet, 'one mans garbage is another man's treasure". I find keeping my personal opinions 2 myself, if the're neg. is best. I used to manage an afterhours n on Wed. nites we put on 'PARIAH NITE' (the OUTCASTS). alot of underground, Goth, Dark Dance, we had alot of street people too. (they needed a home...lol). Peace!
CYRAPHYM 2 years ago
I don´t now where you from, I`m Portuguese. I don´t now the places you´ve mentionate, but probably I would like the music on those. Where I live, Oporto, we have some places like Heaven´s, M 80 or Bateau, where Dj´s put some "treasures". On Heaven´s, Goth rules, but unfortunatly for me, it´s mainly electroGoth, if you ask some of the kids in there who were/are Sisters of Mercy, they will answer "who???".
RickRocha1973 2 years ago
I went a weekend to Oporto some years ago in January because there were cheap Ryanair tickets from Frankfurt-Hahn, and the temperature in Oporto was very nice :)
Loved it! we were probably the only tourists, got robbed unfortunately :( had inexpensive but delicious food, went to the seaside. If I ever go again, I'll check out the places you mentioned. I'd be happy to hear some electrogoth!
mipmipmipmipmip 2 years ago
coming bald !
haaribuh 2 years ago
Incoming!
octoberrust85 2 years ago 2
its all good this shit. i like it.
funkytennant 2 years ago
muito looooco
pity2109 2 years ago
reminds me of the anti-decadent 80's movement
serendipity3718 2 years ago 2
Patricia is my FUCKING IDOL!! I play bass cos of how much she amazes me! SISTERS FOREVER!
Glitterbladejester 2 years ago 7
@Glitterbladejester That's wonderful, except, of course, Patricia didn't play on this album...it's also said that she didn't play on Floodland either...so basically, you play bass because of an unknown session bass player and the fact that you think she looks hot.
steveobie1 1 month ago
@steveobie1 - of course she was good enough to play with legendary band The Damned. She has chops and is amazing, Why are you so down on session players? Most session players are better than the musicians in front of the camera that get credit.
TruckerMessiah 3 weeks ago
@TruckerMessiah I'm not 'down' on anybody, especially not session musicians, I just pointed out that Morrison didn't play on this song or album (and she was more famous for being in Gun Club, rather than joining a worn our version of the Damned)
steveobie1 3 weeks ago
@Glitterbladejester Pretty much what steveobie1 said. Tony James actually played bass on the Vision Thing album (he was also in Generation X).
As for Patricia Morrison during Floodland, I also used to think she was a kick-ass bassist, and was really disappointed when I found out that she pretty much did jack for recording that album. Whoever *did* play bass on Floodland, however, was awesome.
sugarandspice4815 1 month ago in playlist Newdarkwave
1991- Washington DC. Public Enemy and Sisters of Mercy double bill. It was a helluva show.
beachnative10 2 years ago 4
I wish I could have seen that.
BrianPsychicBabystar 2 years ago
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I'm going to the garden shop. I want to buy some EmoGrass. It will save me so much time because it cuts itself.
gothiquespyder 2 years ago
Emo is to Goth what Fallout Boy is to punk-rock
kelsmart 2 years ago 5
I agree with you aesthetically, but they're both sub-genres of rock music, and media coined phrases used to describe a diverse range of music. Eldritch rejected the tagline of "gothic." The point I'm trying to make is that it sucks to be lumped into a category of which you feel there is no relation, and that's what the media is doing now and has always done just to sell a product.
Triplezero13999 2 years ago 2
I was 8 when I discovered Floodland. (I'm 29 now). I have always seen Sisters Of Mercy as a rock band with a singer with a unique voice, nothing more. They just rock. They made good music. It's not even dark music-it's poppy and you can dance to it. Don't judge a book by it's cover.
oldirtydawson 2 years ago 5
I just got turned onto this band last week, I heard vision thing and my first thought was that ministry had got really poppy. I really like this band because they can sound really upbeat and poppy but still dark at the same time.
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The beginning riff reminds me of Law & Order. I wonder who stole from who. :p
PennyRoyaleTea 2 years ago
lotsa people here discussing bullshit - I've got only one thing to say: Sisters of Mercy were the COOLEST EVER.
Lungomolto 2 years ago 61
@Lungomolto were? still are! the COOLEST EVER
eehbiertje 1 year ago
It seems Andrew would change his "look" midway through shooting videos for the album. Look at the Floodland videos and the Vision Thing videos.
TheOCDan 2 years ago
There's about 4 years in between those albums.
Babenoname 2 years ago
The Sister's early material might be compatible with other so called "goth" bands, Vision Thing clearly is not. It shouldn't matter what you sound like though; if your music happens to sound like what the media portrays as "goth" who cares. The media now uses the term "emo" which is a far worse label.
Triplezero13999 2 years ago 10
No way, Vision Thing is totally Goth.
Sayukae 2 years ago
Don't really care what label it has,I just love the music,and at the end of the day isn't that what it's all about.
Leveller100 2 years ago 9
F**K your labels. I love Sisters of Mercy, They saved my life when I was a lonely brat
notahelicopter 2 years ago 51
@notahelicopter Me too mate, and Elizabeth Morrison was the horniest thing on two legs.
JapStrangler 1 year ago
@JapStrangler You talking about Patricia Morrison? Or is Elizabeth Morrison somebody else entirely?
sugarandspice4815 1 year ago
@sugarandspice4815 *kicks himself in the arse*
JapStrangler 1 year ago
@notahelicopter So do I.. sisters of mercy forever!
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Thank you Pythonbird yeah i was a Goth in the 80's still am inside just grew out of wearing just black nobody seems to have mentioned the queen herself Siouxsie she was the epitemy of goth its not enough to just listen too the music and dress in black its a state of mind!
nat33ify 2 years ago
yeah, goths did exist in the 80's. i remember liberties on a wed. night.
Pythonbird 2 years ago
this isn't goth. its country rock.
billjesusgates 2 years ago
'billjesusgates'-firstly, are you english? secondly, are you in your late 30's-early 40's and thirdly someone has been leading you up the garden path!! With a name like billjesusgates, no wonder you want to change its genre. Oh, and im really not that bovvered what you think, im just repling for something to do!!
Pythonbird 2 years ago
i admit that you don't hear too much country in this song but its there. so i call it "country rock n' roll." do you know that country music can be very dark?
billjesusgates 2 years ago
LooooL
vladetadj 2 years ago
It's funny that would be brought up. Eldritch himself was always exremely pointed in distancing himself from the whole "goth" phenominon. And yes, I'd have to say this song has country/blues influences.
BurningSpear213 2 years ago 2
I'd have to agree. Andrew didn't want to be associated with the whole goth thing.
tentacleorgy 2 years ago
Of course not. Neither did Siouxsie or Robert Smith - they were so Goth they were NotaGoth.
Sayukae 2 years ago 2
They just don't want to be associated with a label because it's musically restricting.
sophiajane 2 years ago 2
GOTHS DID EXIST IN THE 8O'S. AT LEAST THEY DID IN THE UK, COS I WAS ONE OF THEM. Although, it was the mid to late 80's, oh how i miss Liberties on a wednesday night!!!
Pythonbird 2 years ago
who cares
somefreelog 2 years ago
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Guys! Goth didn't exist in the 80s.
Goth is just the generation of Joy Division wannabes who stood behind Marylin Manson in the 90s. Goth these days is just a mis-interpretation of Emo. Yuck.
Remember, Alister Crowley. Dracula. Barbie dolls with black sharpie bondysuits. This was the foundation for this facet of 80s new wave.
chillentoka 2 years ago
Goth did exist in the 80s for sure! WTF. We called it death rock mostly.
The music referred to was a fairly broad range of DARK stuff from Christian Death, Death in June, Lydia Lunch, Birthday Party, (some) Cure, Siouxsie, Virgin Prunes, Minimal Man, etc.
Tell me that music from the late 70s to the mid 80s is not what lots of people would call goth.
There was no Emo except the guy with Judy Tenuta.
PRESTOTHECAT 2 years ago
Actually the gothic subculture owes it's roots to punk and post-punk rockers such as The Damned, Bauhaus, The Sisters of Mercy (early material) and The Cure. Bauhaus was one of the first bands to have the "goth" label attached to them. As for emo, sweater vests, girls jeans, black rimmed glasses and bands like Jimmy Eats World and The Ataris. IDK how goth got mixed up with that subculture, fucking media.
Triplezero13999 2 years ago 2
chillentoka, they did exist -i had a very good friend at college back in '89, nicknamed 'The Bat' by one of our lecturers, who had the whole thing going on. cultured, erudite and slightly vampiric gentleman, the epitome of goth.
45545512 2 years ago
"Eldritch wrote songs about girls, drugs, and cars."
I would say that girls, drugs, and cars were just essential themes. True, he had a simplistic lyrical style, but most of his songs seem to have an underlying message referencing society.
Triplezero13999 2 years ago
just read thru comments left ...chill out..its all good...wind your necks in just enjoy x
weesa1770 2 years ago
Goth is a sham. Yeah, the music is amazing, but what its supposed to mean and relate to, as well as the general misconceptions about it, really don't add up.
Eldritch wrote songs about girls, drugs, and cars.
Peter Murphy mostly wrote about the same things Danzig and Rob Zombie would years later, but because Bauhaus was minimalistic, its "gothic."
Just enjoy the music, because it IS good, but if we have to argue, Lou Reed's "Berlin" and Bowie's "Low" are more "gothic" than Eldritch.
deadboys1010 2 years ago
No, Bauhaus is labelled as gothic rock because that is the genre they play.
Sisters =/= goth, because there isn't really much of a punk influence in their sound. You could probably file them under darkwave, though I suspect old man Eldritch would hate that even more.
Sesquipedaliantique 2 years ago
First and Last as Always kind definitely had a post-punk feel to it. Everything after that not so much.
Triplezero13999 2 years ago
Andrew Eldritch, Nick Cave, The Birthday Party...yeah...whatever you want to make of it. Ah, great song, I just love The Sisters of Mercy!
DarkIsis80 2 years ago
Goth, gothic, new wave, post punk, dark wave, industrial, ambient dancehall etc are all inventions of bored journalists. However, if there has to be a first Goth band it would be Gloria Mundi or maybe Adam and the Ants.
roonk13 2 years ago
No they're not. "Goth", maybe, but "industrial music" was coined by a musician.
Nothing at all wrong with naming genres. If everything was just called rock music, you'd be comparing Limp Bizkit to Little Richard.
Sesquipedaliantique 2 years ago
I invented Ambient Dancehall myself anyway and I'm certainly not a journalist but I was bored enough to comment.
No matter what kind of label you gave to Limp Bizkit I would still know that they were crap.
roonk13 2 years ago
Your opinion of some obsolete 90s pop group is beside the point (though I agree with you, they are crap).
I can picture ambient dancehall now actually, it's a series of peaceful droning sounds with an angry Jamaican bloke spitting homophobic abuse over the top of it. Mmm.
Sesquipedaliantique 2 years ago
Now I know where some of KMFDM's inspiration came from.
EnviousDominous 2 years ago 2
You mean they wear sunglasses in their videos? Yeah, I noticed that too.
Sesquipedaliantique 2 years ago
bauhaus rock so much and yeah so do the sisters. great band great fuckin music!!!
MetReigns478 2 years ago
I sort of see The Doors and The Velvet Underground sort of starting the goth thing with some of their music. Even Bowie maybe even Syd Barrett. But Bauhaus yeah. All the way Goth. Loved those guys. They put it all together.
chrltylr40 2 years ago
Joy Division were the first.
str8ngthofh3rc 2 years ago
It was actually Peter Murphy with Bauhaus who started the goth movement when they released Bela Lugosi is dead..
A4quattroAvant 2 years ago
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redkola 2 years ago
Was it really? Thanks for that...
redkola 2 years ago
Wow. Joy Division were the first goth band. And as a side note, Bauhaus sucked ass. Joy Division were at least good.
str8ngthofh3rc 2 years ago
I have never seen a reference to Joy Division being Goth, they originated from a Punk band called Warsaw, Ian Cutis only joined later. One would call them Indie today.
A4quattroAvant 2 years ago
No they are not Goth. But along with other post-punk bands, they were seen as influential. Even some Iggy and the Stooges is deemed "goth-ish". Thing with Joy Division though, is that they were the first band to be described by a critic as "gothic" due to stage presence and Ian Curtis's singing style. Thus, they are inextricably linked with the movement they helped christen.
Khirad 2 years ago
Ian Curtis was in Warsaw! Want to know why Joy Division are the first goth band? Their music! Gee wizz. Just because a band looks goth doesn't make them goth. It's the music that counts. Go watch JD perform "Transmission" then watch the video from Bauhuas "She's in Parties" and tell me they didn't rip them off! And another thing, being Goth is totally queercake. I mean, if a person has to look a certain way for them to be goth then that whole scene is fucking shallow.
str8ngthofh3rc 2 years ago
We can go on forever here, enjoy the music. Opinions can not be argued, only facts. Fact is I enjoy JD, Bauhaus, Sisters of Mercy and many more from this period, I really don't care for what genre they are attached to. The sad thing is we don't get to see these performers anymore, we are subjected to so much fabrication of music. It's about the fame and money today, not creativity.
A4quattroAvant 2 years ago 2
Only on youtube will you find morons who throw all logic out the window. You know you're an idiot when you think facts can be argued. Fact: sky is blue, convince me otherwise. Opinion: running is the bets form of exercise. Nope, no arguing with running but the colour of the sky is an open topic.
str8ngthofh3rc 2 years ago
lol -str8ngthofh3rc - Look Herc, look! Sky: Blue is the color (spectrum) of the the sun's rays travelling through our atmosphere as it reflects and refracts off airborne particles bla bla bla...running: best form of exercise, generally speaking. Blood and oxygen flow, energy used, transfered...bla bla bla..lol...logic: The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning
CYRAPHYM 2 years ago
you know nothing if you think joy division was goth,,
and bauhaus kicked more ass than you ever will.
junesdeath777 2 years ago
Thank you for that enlightening comment. I found is especially helpful when you told me HOW I was wrong. Oh wait. . .
str8ngthofh3rc 2 years ago
there should be some1 screaming "incoming!" in the beginning...
Semestis 2 years ago 4
only on the album mate. "flowers on the razorwire....INCOMING" pretty cool huh!!
MetReigns478 2 years ago 2
Goth is just a boring newly invented expression, in 80's when SoM become big there was way better musical style categorisation, for this one I would call Industrial Hardcore Rock
roxpace 2 years ago
Think you're wrong mate. They were always known as Goth, it isn't a new expression. Along with Fields of the Nephilim and Mission they began the Goth scene. The Damned were classed as the Grandfathers of Goth but in reality that was down to Dave Vanian putting a white streak in his hair and releasing Grimly Fiendish, they were actually Punk.
oldthrashhead 2 years ago
Sorry to say but the 1st ever goth band was Bauhaus and bauhaus get they influnece in Joy Division. But the scene is not like in the 80's right now MTV's and other things are selling band's that aren't goth at all was gothic bands.
l3ds92 2 years ago
Hmmmm, true, depends on who you speak to though. Totally agree with you comments on the 'modern' scene though.
:-))
oldthrashhead 2 years ago
I have a strange attraction to goth looking guys. I know Andrew said he's not goth, but he certainly is handsome
modechick101 2 years ago
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bertilla11 2 years ago
cool :) but maybe it some from industrial rather than gothic rock.
some like The Ministry
miknikrus 2 years ago
Gah this takes me back....so many memories...
ravenmarie 3 years ago 2
O som dessa banda era muito bom!
Com certeza uma das melhores dos anos 80 e eu adoro essa música!
guerrillarocker 3 years ago
Buenísimo, buenísimo... nunca me cansaré de escuharlo. Gracias por ponerlo.
rosanegraguinardo 3 years ago
Muy buen tema de una banda con muchos temazos.
jandolanganol 3 years ago
he looks so handsome and so cool in this video.
wuzasometina 3 years ago 3
SpangledMike,it seems you have a huge bootleg collection, right?
Cilha72 3 years ago
Detonation? lol
thechaptermaster 3 years ago
pffffffffff!
SSBata 3 years ago
I've never understood the hate of Floodland, apart from that horribly overused 'Incoming!' shout.
Comus89 3 years ago
PFft, I love Ribbons... INCOMING!!!!!!!! SO JUST WALK RIGHT IN!!! INCOMING!!!!!!!! INCOOOMMMINGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!
It freaks out my friends.
Especially when I scream it randomly while playing the song, lol.. Such fun is psychological warfare. =)
Kartofflesalad 3 years ago 6
thats freaking awesome! XD I love that song too
heartofsilver777 3 years ago 3
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Sounds as awful as in my memories. That band should have ceased to exist after the split. Everything Eldritch did after 1986 was just exploiting the name.
dieandereseite 3 years ago
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totally agree with you! this is so bad, dated and uncool.
who would've thought this music would age that bad?
CHRIST!
pinheadsen 3 years ago
umm there were not just 3 albums, there were 11, and i have them all
love sisters of mercy
SpangledMike 3 years ago 2
1985: f+a+l+a+a, 1987: floodland, 1990: vision thing, 1992: some girls wander by mistake & 1993: a slight case of overbombing (both compilations of single releases). ev'rything else is bootleg stuff...
Crime1912 3 years ago 2
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Eldritch is bald now
townie1488 3 years ago
and so am I..
microbus99 3 years ago 3
haha!
Enysvar 3 years ago 2
So who cares if he's bald now? He's talented as ever and still a cool rocker
sp45ih 2 years ago
hace años q no escuchaba esto, que recuerdos me traen, pedazo de cancion buenisima...como suena el bajo, brutal..
santyrush 3 years ago
Sorry but this blows. I got First and last and Always when it came out and I was hooked. Floodland was great. Man was I bummed when Vision Thing came out. What a sub par piece of crap. The early singles, First and Last and Always, and Floodland were the best.
fdeshon 3 years ago
As i like to say, the three SoM albums where,
First and Last and Always,
Floodland,
and the "I AM NOT A FUCKING GOTH" album. =)
Kartofflesalad 3 years ago 5
i would have agreed with you earlier but not anymore.i have always prefered First and Last and Always and Floodland to Vision Thing but now i enjoy it a lot more than even Floodland:P
indetroit442 3 years ago 3
I like them all man!!! Dont pick favorites!!
microbus99 3 years ago
"Vegas Baby"yea!
TheRealInvaderZim 3 years ago
oh este tema me lo recomendaron mmmm me gusto
jje ^^
eThErNaDosPunToCeRO 3 years ago
eldritch rules
GothMetalChaosPrinz 3 years ago 4
his voice is amazin fav band ever
SpangledMike 3 years ago 3
i LOVE THIS RECORD:iTS ONE OF MY ALLTIME FAVOURITES
profigurke 3 years ago 2
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anfetminlogic 3 years ago
i like the "INCOMING!" part in the album version
PullusPardus 3 years ago 2
englishrover I agree. also one of my top 5 albums of all times.
sweetannirich 3 years ago
Anyone ever notice how Larry Love (the Sopranos intro) sounds like Andrew Eldritch.
kemicon 3 years ago
I think is one of the best songs of sisters of mercy, I love it, I remember very goods times, Its lovely
76250329 3 years ago 5
VISION THING is one of my top 5 albums of all time
englishrover 3 years ago 3
You've good tadte... No doubt about it!!
NCLDragon76 3 years ago
Slight case of overbombing is way better ;)
xMelvinSmileyx 3 years ago
eheheheh... that album is a "best of" afterall :)
NCLDragon76 3 years ago
I know...thats why its the best :)
xMelvinSmileyx 3 years ago