Fucking prick, you're a clown Ali. Did you honestly think that video could be taken seriously? Even if that were true, you cunt, then "bring it." Just do me a favor and go fuck yourself you fucking piece of trash.
hahahahahahahaha this guy is a phony he doesn't even pronounce the words correctly, 2. he pauses to long and 3. he has this strange/fake look in his eyes <-- you know the one that liars have (I'm talking about the guy shown in the video) and 4. he talks bulshitt; that ain't Islam.
A "moderate muslim " is one that ran out of bullets. most of these beard hate apes are living in a western country, best thing to do, and it will come to that, send them back. There is no place for islam in any western country. Islam means submission, western values are freedom and democracy, they don't mix. Do not forget what happens when democracy doesn't defend it self, the rise of AH in 1928 is a prime example. Islam is fascism nothing less.
@flubno well the term religious moderate usually only applies to does who don't go around throwing death threats and killing people. Unfortunately, that might not apply to Ali aka Dawahfilms (dawah between means convert).
What technologies and science has Islam given us? A horse and cart maybe? Oops, not even the cart. Seems that was invented by the Greeks or Romans. Which begs the question again. What has Islam given society?
Did patricianatheist bother to LISTEN to DawahFilms? He warned of lethal violence "if you ever try to waken any sort of sleeping giant that is HOSTILE to any Muslim OR non-Muslim INNOCENT PERSON". In other words, he warned that deadly violence is justified to defend the innocent. Is that extremism? Is there any nation or system of justice on Earth that doesn't share that view? What percentage of people in the USA would agree with DawahFilm's position here? 95%? 99%? 99.9%?
@VeryEvilPettingZoo Get real. It was a reply to something specific. Look at it in context. This muppet quote mined Thunderf00t's video and used it as a platform to issue threats. I think he knew exactly what TF meant in his video and chose to purposefully misinterprete it and characterise it so he wouldn't have to address the actual argument critical of Islam. It's projection, he's projecting his own mindset on others in an attempt to shift the blame and dodge criticism. You fell for it.
DawahFilms (DF) was "quote mining" and "projecting his own mindset on others in an attempt to shift the blame and dodge criticism", and I "fell for it"? That made no damn sense. The best I can guess, you're suggesting DF was just looking for an excuse for threaten someone. If that's your point, then you're either a moron or a troll.
The US has made war with 2 countries based on 9-11, and Tf00t makes a vague threat about Islam "waking the sleeping giant threat", and you say that
... DF saw the video and thought he'd found a wonderful excuse to make the threats he was hoping to make anyway? That's stupid.
And again, DF's villainous evil muslim threat, in response to Tf00t's threat against Islam, was that violence will be used to defend the innocent from violence - no matter matter the religion of the innocent. DF's "radical" position there is shared by basically everyone on Earth except for pure pacifists.
Dodofilms is a boob. How in the hell he has gotten so popular is beyond me. And now I see he is posting videos that are 27 minutes long. How in the hell is he doing that? Did YouTube make that shrew a partner? Bloody hell. Great video man.
Dawahfilms is just so over dramatic with his videos. While he has his moms curtains behind him I am just waiting for him to burst out crying saying "Leave Islam ALONE!!"
Well it's not going to be Thunderf00t who awakens the sleeping giant, it's going to be the muslims who make enough noise to wake the giant up. So hey muslims, shut the fuck up about your wife beating non-believer hating religion and you'll be all good.
Non muslim Allies..Who are they? Braindead Suicidal Idiots!
All muslims speak in riddles that because their message is so violent and contorted that they cant just say it. Its the old throw enough shit at the wall and hope that some will stick analogy. Nice beard by the way moron.
LOL@ "go fuck yourself. It's a threat." There's no such thing as a moderate muslim. Anyone who takes islam seriously enough to "practice it" as written is either willing to pull the trigger on kafirs, or willing to cheer-lead for, and high-five, their "extremist" brethren who actually do their dirty work.
Muslims & their countries are being Slaughtered. They're screaming to Wake USA Up, saying "USA CANNOT START WARS IN EVERY MUSLIM COUNTRY, INSTALL PUPPET GOVERNMENTS, OVERTHROW OUR COUNTRIES, KILL AND RAPE OUR PEOPLE BY THE MILLIONS, STEAL ALL OUR RESOURCES, GIVE EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO ISRAEL & YOUR CORPORATIONS, PROFIT FROM DEATH & WARS WITHOUT NO END, DO ANYTHING TO MUSLIMS THAT ISRAEL TELLS YOU TO DO, YOU CANNOT JUST BUILD A ONE WORLD GOV, TAKE AWAY OUR IDENTITIES, MAKE MIDDLE EAST YOUR EMPIRE"
All American Presidents (all of them Christians) HAVE THREATENED OTHER COUNTRIES WITH VIOLENCE AND WARS, and also have started countless Wars in other countries, forcing other countries to accept American way of life and installing dictators into other countries, so are you now saying that All American Presidents were Extremist Christians and Terrorists and Criminals??
Some Muslims when angry may threaten others, but Christians, Jews & Atheist Dictators actually carry out their Threat/Genocides.
@halcyon0830 Agree with you on the political right wing of the USA and its imperialistic theocracy of the last century, still, when you make dead threats you are not considered human being, be it a christian, muslim, or jew, when you threaten and kill in the name of your imaginary friend you belong in a asylum, heavy security area.
Who is this pin head in this moderate Muslim video, why doesn't he do the world a favor and go blow himself up, just don't harm any Innocent camels, goats, or jack asses in the process, OK piss head............ your are nothing but a Muslim thug, a zero with out your other gang members, a camel fart in the wind.....
TF warns: extremists engaging in violence may one day necessitate genuine military response upon Islamic states; it's in moderates' best interest to quell extremism by not legitimizing it.
He also goes out of his way to explain it'll probably never happen b/c terrorists aren't a true threat. They'll only become so when extremism dominates an Islamic state's foreign policy. It is the responsibility of preventing extremism f/ becoming a majority that TF places at the feet of moderates.
@onlyAerik "extremists engaging in violence may one day necessitate genuine military response upon Islamic states; it's in moderates' best interest to quell extremism by not legitimizing it." BTW, thats exactly what Sam Harris wrote in The End of Faith..but then, Sam Harris is not much liked among Muslims nowadays...
You are quote mining him. It was really clear, if you watch the whole video, what he was talking about. I am a long time thunderf00t subscriber and an atheist, and I STILL got what dawahfilms was trying to say. TF made the same exact threat that the Muslims made about southpark and tried to disguise it in the same exact way. DF was pointing out that he and others have the right to defend themselves when innocent people are attacked. Don't forget, TF called them ants that we allow to exist!
@christo930 "TF made the same exact threat that the Muslims made about southpark" These two statements are equal ?: "if you draw a cartoon of our prophet, you will die" compared to "If you threaten and attack us for being critical of your religion we will kick your ass"? The same book he references the "divine justice" to protect the innocents also demands the "divine justice" of killing unbelievers. If they obey one, is it unreasonable to assume they would obey both? There BOTH commandments
@tallifer1 I am not denying that the Koran has these things in it, I know it does. But that isn't what DF said. DF didn't threaten to kill unbelievers, he said if anyone killed innocent people, other people would kill them.
@christo930: "DF didn't threaten to kill unbelievers, he said if anyone killed innocent people, other people would kill them". Exactly. The problem is that this was in response to a video that - while maybe using overgeneralizing language in some parts and thus open to misinterpretation - did not at all threaten to kill innocent people. The innocents shown victimized by Muslim fundies in TfOOts video were predominantly - Muslim innocents.
@Nalae1978 Do you know where the sleeping giant comes from? When Japan attacked the US, the Japanese said "I fear that we have awoken a sleeping giant". America was wealthy and had the heavy manufacturing to win the war. Now, we are no longer a sleeping giant, but a drunken giant walking around in a stupor, but to me it sounded like a weapons of mass destruction threat. Surely a weapons of mass destruction (nukes) would kill millions of innocent civilians(not that TF could nuke anyone)
@christo930: I understand that this might be one interpretation, but, if I may say so, its a very US-centric one :). The "sleeping giant" metaphor has also been applied to China (by Napoleon), to the ascendence of American Evangelicalism, demonstrations against anti-immigration law... and in many other very different contexts. In the context of the video it makes much sense to interpret it as meaning "those who defend the age of reason". And among these I would count moderate Muslims as well.
@christo930: I suspect - I may be wrong - that this was an intentional misunderstanding. Presenting ones "own group" (or maybe people belonging to ones wider social group/ sharing ones world view) as a "victim" seems to be preferable to critically examine the violent ideas of fundies who are sharing ones faith. Why did Dawah not simply say: Hey, you are generalizing to much, but I agree that any death threats due to perceived insults are wrong. It would have been so easy...
@christo930 Youre missing the point. the koran commands BOTH protection of innocents AND killing "infidels". If protecting innocents is a divine command then killing infidels is a divine command. Why should we assume a muslim will do one but not annother? If you get to decide which ones you follow the NEITHER are divine commands. Not to mention that person would be a hypocrite.
@tallifer1 But that isn't what he said. I already admit that I agree the Koran has dumb shit in it. He didn't say anything about killing any infidels.
Trust me it us who will awaken any sleeping giant, but I've been told flying planes into buildings and death threats against people using there freespeech might wake it up. And I'm sure any Japanese person would tell in engrish...."Don't fack with san US, say drop bombs on u!"
Who is this pin head in this moderate muslim video, why doesn't he do the world a favor and go blow himself up, just don't harm any camels in the process, OK piss head............
Who is this pin head in this moderate muslim video, why doesn't he do the world a favor and go blow himself up, just don't harm any camels in the process, OK fuck head............
Not only is dawah's death threat exactly like that made at the south park guys, but it's also exactly like the guys who hold up signs saying "behead those who call islam violent."
If you ask those sign-holders what the mean, they will also say "when you call us violent you're calling on others to do violence to us. Therefore, we must destroy you first."
That's exactly what dawah did. And like those sign holders, dawah's sense of irony on the subject is for naught.
And to make the similarity more salient, note that Muslims who engage in these death threats can hardly be found petitioning local government or community leaders to use peaceful means to discourage extremism and disparagement.
No, instead what you find is, the second they start talking Sharia, they take their demands straight to the nation state level. Go straight fed. Force everybody to kowtow to the taboo.
And when they speak of retaliation, it's never "some of us." It's ALL muslims.
@slicingwater Unfortunately Muslims in the UK actually show up on borderline violent protests holding signs that say exactly that. I don't make the comparison lightly.
As much as Dawah annoys me I think you misinterpreted him and ran with it - what he meant was that if you play a role in starting a war of islamic irradication that you should be killed. I wouldn't say that's extreme per se considering (OMG GODWIN LAW) that's kind of what hitler did.
what a douche... pick up a hobby or something, stop getting your panties in such a raging twist just cause somebody disagrees with your particular fairytale...
The only compelling draw toward islam is the threats: Threats of hell, threats of death. Even in the koran, if you take out the threats of eternal torment, or the calls to make war against fitna (disbelief), or the kaffir (the disbeliever), there ain't much left. And it seems to be the only thing muslims have to offer, and since nobody is taking, they fly airplanes into buildings as a response.
I like his hypnotic stare. How he tries to give more emphasis to his words by making short pauses and staring at the viewers like a snake is supposed to stare at a rabbit. He made a fool of himself because he completely (deliberately?) misunderstood TF's metaphor of the "sleeping giant".
@Rindrand Self-defense? You mean if we bomb them in Afghanistan and Iraq they won't attack us here anymore? Hmm that makes sense, except wait... What almost happened in New York on Sunday?
@Harabeck You don't have the silly degenerate 20% of Thunderf00t's followers spamming your page when you disagree with him, either. So no you're no better than him, you demand tolerance of him and offer none in return. Being an atheist doesn't mean you have the moral authority to go and bash random people, who don't agree with you.
There is a difference between disagreeing with thunderf00t and threatening to "send him to the god he wish he knew". Death threats do not deserve tolerance. I'm not bashing a random person who disagrees with me; I'm making it clear that threatening violence will only alienate you. If he wants tolerance from me, all he has to do is act like a civilized human being.
@Harabeck Hey buddy look at me. Forget about him for a second. I, the comrade atheist who doesn't threaten anyone, am telling you this. You're being a dick to the guy. It's not because he's threatening you, don't pretend that you're threatened. It's because he's got a beard and he reads Koran and you dislike him because he is different, that's it. I'm seriously disappointed in "atheist community." Most of them are just parrots lacking the ability to think autonomously or empathy.
@Pseudologic You still seem to be purposely refusing to acknowledge that he made death threats! If he hadn't said that 'send him to the god he wish he knew' part, no one would have said a thing!
Threatening someone's life is unacceptable, it does not matter what religious belief you hold or lack, I do not understand why you are condoning his actions.
@Pseudologic I'm not threatened physically, but then, the attack on the twin towers didn't physically threaten me either. I'm not judging the guy because he has beard and reads the koran, do you see me commenting on other muslims? I'm expressing my disdain because he is employing fear tactics, which if not fought could eventually threaten our ways of life. Ya, it's a small threat, but commenting on a youtube video is a small response. This guy doesn't deserve empathy, he's making death threats.
@Harabeck WTC attacks didn't threaten you physically? Of course they did. You and hundreds of millions of Americans were shit-scared and you immediately let a dumbass on top to abandon all freedoms. The knee-jerk hateful reactions against all the Muslims who have since turned from moderate to extremist, because they were faced with MUSLIM = TERRORIST logic. I'm not defending hate speech, I'm just saying that this bullshit against him started before he uttered "threats."
@Pseudologic No, I don't live in New York, at no point have I felt physically threatened by terrorists. As for people slamming him before he came out as a hateful bigot, well that wasn't me, and I don't see how it's relevant.
@Unity4allhumans Tfoot refers to fundamentalist extremist muslims sunshine... you fool no one... yes, yes, he has an agenda and works for the CIA in an evil masterplan blahblah... ROFLMAO
@DocStrange0123 NO he makes several statements which clearly stereotype all Muslims.
Do not make jokes about CIA corruption it has and will continue to occur.
But i am by no means saying that he is linked to CIA or government although sadly some politicians, government and authoritative members share his islamophobic views.
His videos are clear indications of his intentions to cause disunity and conflicts within different communities no conspiracy theories needed the blue print says it all.
@Unity4allhumans stereotype all Muslims is what you want to see. sorry I make jokes about what I want, if there's a right you and me don't have is the right of not being offended, get over it.
@Pseudologic lol oh jeez I didn't realize judging an extremist for making death threats was being a dickhead. Some might say defending someone making death threats is being a dickhead.
In any event, everyone has the right to be a dick, but no one has the right to threaten someone's life.
"we will kill you" he was talking about IF YOU KILL INNOCENTS WE WILL FIGHT BACK!
This (specifically) wasn't about criticism of muslims it was a response to TF's rhetoric. He has other videos about criticizing islam but these quotes aren't about that.
I really hate having to defend muslims but everyone I subscribe to forcing me to point out that they just don't fucking listen.
Damn I just realized all the typos in my last comment.... ah well...
I think that's what Tfoot was saying in his video; "if radical nutters kill innocent westerners, then we could eassily kick your ass to mars and back, so don't fuck with us".
At least that's what I got from all these shenanigans.
@arkanrais I realize this but TF made no distinctions in his video. I doubt he would ever support genocide but since he didn't clarify anything people got things a little mixed up and dahwa jumped in emotionally due to the sensitive nature of the topic and the tone of TF video.
This is what happens when you don't make things clear and TF made a whole load of sweeping statements without any clarification but it was poorly handled on both sides.
I recently got attacked on a teen forum for wondering what the fuck is going through the heads and minds of the religious because "I can't tolerate other peoples beliefs"
Why is it that people who are schizophrenic must be treated or else they can cause real damage, but people who are "religious" must be free to express and practice their beliefs? I'm getting sick of this degenerate society.
When we westerners say "moderate" we mean "people who leave non-believers alone" (as patricianatheist clearly means)
When a Muslim says "moderate" they mean something different. They mean they only get one orgasm watching the 9 yo get stoned to death as a punishment for being raped, not multiple orgasms like the extremists.
Killing those who insult islam is as much bread and butter to islam as baptism is to christians. The "moderate" we westerners are looking for is unrealistic.
Seriously - has there yet been a single Islamatard who hasn't pwned himself the minute he opens his mouth? I have not seen a single one not bring ridicule upon themselves or their beliefs when they speak of their faith. They really should just stay quiet and stick to the stealth jihad.
I don't understand why DawahFilms hasn't been shut down yet. There is no question this Muslim jerk-off made a veiled threat, based on his violent stoneage religion.
But maybe, when you think about it, dawah doesn't entirely mean that the sleeping giant group will be atheists. He might actually think that videos like thunderf00t's will set off rednecks and other assorted fox news viewers like some kind of brainfarted powder keg.
patricianatheist, you're such a johnny-come-lately. You're also taking his video out of context. Many, many videos have addressed T'f00t's initial saber rattling. You're quite in the wrong in this issue. Later!
Way to misunderstand and caricature DawahFilms as an extremist. The Muslim dude clearly misunderstood Thunderf00t's ambiguous message as a threat to all Muslims (innocent and non-innocent), and then you reply to him as though he were threatening all of Western society for not thinking like Muslims (even though he never said anything remotely like that).
Sorry, but Thunderfoot's message was far from ambiguous that death threats such as those given to both him and the writers of south park are to be confronted and all should not be silent while extremists attempt to or successfully kill those who disagree with them.
@garith21 Thunderf00t was absolutely ambiguous when he referred to the "giant" retaliating against "Muslims". His video was overblown and reactionary. DawahFilms' response bought right into the emotionalism and misunderstood Thunderf00t, but he certainly didn't "threaten the West" or any such bullshit. PatricianAtheist's response was just an opportunity for letting loose some pent up emotion that was just not relevant to the situation.
@garith21 Ok, fine. But Thunderf00t's message was (and still is) ambiguous. It's not at all clear whether he recognizes a distinction between Muslims of differing beliefs, let alone that we should respond differently to them.
Yeah, DawahFilms made three video responses so far clarifying what he meant. Those videos were "Death Threats & The Oh So Scary Muslim," "Clearing My Name (Contra AntyBu86)," and "Why Hate Speech Should Not Be Free To Speak." Just watch "Clearing My Name," for example.
1) Sorry but no regular viewer nor anyone that takes the context of the video as a whole really finds it "ambiguous"
2) Um, in the context of the video it's assumed he's talking about extremists that use death threats and barbarism....it's like when people refer to extremist Christians, it's generally assumed to not mean all Christians.
3) If you want to see ambiguous his response video to TF was quite ambiguous was it not?
@garith21 If you believe Thunderf00t's video was not ambiguous, please show me how he distinguishes between the West's response to extremist Muslims as opposed to moderate Muslims.
Look, I'm not saying Thunderf00t wasn't addressing only extremists. I'm saying it's unclear what he thinks the distinction is between "extremists" and "moderates." That is the ambiguity.
Anyway, my main point was that PatricianAtheist's rant is silly in light of the fact that DawahFilms misunderstood Thunderf00t.
@mavaddat Thunderfoot clearly claims that the "sleeping dragon" was to be awaken in retaliation against "extremist" Muslims. He clearly said that. I suggest you watch the video once more.
@RJhasFLOW Yes, that's correct; however, Thunderf00t does not distinguish between the West's response to moderate or extremist Muslims. He seems to imply that the West will take down Islam as a whole, even if that's not what he meant.
Look, I don't think Thunderf00t was ACTUALLY saying anything crazy. I'm just saying his video was ambiguous and it's understandable that this Muslim guy misunderstood it. In that light, PatricianAtheist's response is rather silly.
Try the context of the whole video? Where he only refers to the ideas of barbarism and death threats? He might make the mistake of assuming that all of his viewers know he's only referring to extremists, maybe he shouldn't assume that despite the fact that I'm definitely not the only regular viewer that understands that.
Sorry, but it wasn't ambiguous and he never endorsed violence and mostly talks about the barbarism and not giving into death threats when it comes to free speech. He ridicules the violent threats and blasphemes Mohammad to show that he's not afraid of death threats and such barbarism has no place in the first world.
If you want to take 2 lines out of context of the entire video and call it ambiguous, okay, I'm hardly convinced though.
@garith21 Thunderf00t did endorse violence, and that's fine. I have no problem with violence when it is used to enforce justice. The ambiguity lies in his indiscriminate condemnation of "Muslims" without clearly identifying who qualifies as an "extremist" and a "moderate" and whether they would be treated differently when the "sleeping giant" awoke.
*rolls eyes* if you really can't tell that with the context of the whole video where he emphasizes entirelly on the barbarism that extremists are going to I really must question your judgment in using quote mines
@garith21 Please look up the definition of "ambiguity." It doesn't mean "clearly saying x." I'm not arguing that Thunderf00t was saying what DawahFilms thinks he was saying. I'm arguing that it was unclear what Thunderf00t was saying. For you to impose your interpretation retrospectively and thereby conclude that his video was absolutely clear is disingenuous at best...
I'm merely pointing out that it's very clear from any rational sense that he was only referring to extremists when you take everything in the context of the entire video...his response to what Dawah said is separate from that so I fail to see why you even bring up TF's video response to that rather than the video that is in question.
@mavaddat: It was NOT ambiguous. He basically said Muslim extremism is, at this point, merely a major annoyance. If western civilization was truly in danger of being overrun, the power that could be unleashed is unimaginable. He's saying Muslims should mind their own business and not try to bend the western world to Islam's Iron-Age will.
good vid
MrPlopqwerty 4 weeks ago
How can followers of Islam be moderate? Islam is so extreme in its teachings how can it be moderate?
To me its sounds like moderate muslims are akin to moderate nazis. am i wrong? educate me. threats just confirm my comments.
MrPlopqwerty 4 weeks ago
Fucking prick, you're a clown Ali. Did you honestly think that video could be taken seriously? Even if that were true, you cunt, then "bring it." Just do me a favor and go fuck yourself you fucking piece of trash.
ISSATHEIST 2 months ago
Every single one of you guys are fucking retarted. The commentator needs to shut up along with the other kike who's in the video
you people are laughable
jeezusallahchrist 4 months ago
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jeezusallahchrist 4 months ago
hahahahahahahaha this guy is a phony he doesn't even pronounce the words correctly, 2. he pauses to long and 3. he has this strange/fake look in his eyes <-- you know the one that liars have (I'm talking about the guy shown in the video) and 4. he talks bulshitt; that ain't Islam.
mocroroosje18 4 months ago
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mocroroosje18 4 months ago
A "moderate muslim " is one that ran out of bullets. most of these beard hate apes are living in a western country, best thing to do, and it will come to that, send them back. There is no place for islam in any western country. Islam means submission, western values are freedom and democracy, they don't mix. Do not forget what happens when democracy doesn't defend it self, the rise of AH in 1928 is a prime example. Islam is fascism nothing less.
Tralgit 4 months ago
Clearly moderate Muslims, as Dawah films, approve of death threats and murder. That is the beauty of Islam, even moderates can be murderers!
abbienetvision 4 months ago
Remember we can live together in peace if we obey their religious laws,otherwise they will kill us.
Whatever4690 1 year ago
Mohammed was a war lord. So actually he is a islamic moderate since that is pretty much the norm for these dumb assholes.
flubno 1 year ago
@flubno well the term religious moderate usually only applies to does who don't go around throwing death threats and killing people. Unfortunately, that might not apply to Ali aka Dawahfilms (dawah between means convert).
supersmash43 1 year ago
give me 10 minutes alone in a room with dawahfilms. i'll expose him for the true pussy he is. nobody is afraid dawah.
epshot 1 year ago 4
good video, dawah films is a comedy channel!
halflifeproductionz 1 year ago
What technologies and science has Islam given us? A horse and cart maybe? Oops, not even the cart. Seems that was invented by the Greeks or Romans. Which begs the question again. What has Islam given society?
stevjen1 1 year ago
Did patricianatheist bother to LISTEN to DawahFilms? He warned of lethal violence "if you ever try to waken any sort of sleeping giant that is HOSTILE to any Muslim OR non-Muslim INNOCENT PERSON". In other words, he warned that deadly violence is justified to defend the innocent. Is that extremism? Is there any nation or system of justice on Earth that doesn't share that view? What percentage of people in the USA would agree with DawahFilm's position here? 95%? 99%? 99.9%?
VeryEvilPettingZoo 1 year ago
@VeryEvilPettingZoo Get real. It was a reply to something specific. Look at it in context. This muppet quote mined Thunderf00t's video and used it as a platform to issue threats. I think he knew exactly what TF meant in his video and chose to purposefully misinterprete it and characterise it so he wouldn't have to address the actual argument critical of Islam. It's projection, he's projecting his own mindset on others in an attempt to shift the blame and dodge criticism. You fell for it.
Zensonar 1 year ago
@Zensonar
DawahFilms (DF) was "quote mining" and "projecting his own mindset on others in an attempt to shift the blame and dodge criticism", and I "fell for it"? That made no damn sense. The best I can guess, you're suggesting DF was just looking for an excuse for threaten someone. If that's your point, then you're either a moron or a troll.
The US has made war with 2 countries based on 9-11, and Tf00t makes a vague threat about Islam "waking the sleeping giant threat", and you say that
VeryEvilPettingZoo 1 year ago
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... DF saw the video and thought he'd found a wonderful excuse to make the threats he was hoping to make anyway? That's stupid.
And again, DF's villainous evil muslim threat, in response to Tf00t's threat against Islam, was that violence will be used to defend the innocent from violence - no matter matter the religion of the innocent. DF's "radical" position there is shared by basically everyone on Earth except for pure pacifists.
VeryEvilPettingZoo 1 year ago
@VeryEvilPettingZoo Nope. Try again.
Zensonar 1 year ago
@Zensonar
How could I ever respond to so devastating a critique of my views? Since I'm clearly outclassed here, I won't even try.
VeryEvilPettingZoo 1 year ago
@VeryEvilPettingZoo I'm not in the habit of repeating myself.
Zensonar 1 year ago
Dodofilms is a boob. How in the hell he has gotten so popular is beyond me. And now I see he is posting videos that are 27 minutes long. How in the hell is he doing that? Did YouTube make that shrew a partner? Bloody hell. Great video man.
SnowWalkerOne 1 year ago
no Your the Retarded Mother Fucker'
& you Fuckin FUCK your Mother'
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---> BOY .
WHlTEperson 1 year ago
@SnowWalkerOne He could of threatened YT with sending them "to god (dog) they wished they knew!" Just a thought.
PropheciesofWar 1 year ago
Maybe you havn't issued anyone with a death threat but you sure pulled the 1quality of life for many muslims world wide.
You have made it so difficult for muslim women especially to walk down the road without being thrown racist slurrs and degradding comments.
Muslims have been killed cause of your bigoting and hatred.
So maybe i wish u just threaten us instead of making us suffer.
Unity4allhumans 1 year ago
Dawahfilms is just so over dramatic with his videos. While he has his moms curtains behind him I am just waiting for him to burst out crying saying "Leave Islam ALONE!!"
123backinyerface 1 year ago
There is no such thing as moderate muslim - the entire Islam religion is based on extreme sexism.
HugNow 1 year ago
He'll never hear the end of the whole death threat business!
HandSqueezed 1 year ago
Well it's not going to be Thunderf00t who awakens the sleeping giant, it's going to be the muslims who make enough noise to wake the giant up. So hey muslims, shut the fuck up about your wife beating non-believer hating religion and you'll be all good.
bogogf 1 year ago
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1manmafia 1 year ago
What an articulate young man.
charliesplinter 1 year ago
"Whaddya want sunshine?" lol
Lordgaraj 1 year ago
Come on, Ali made some silly and exaggerated comments on a misinterpretation.
He is quite a normal and nice guy.
saintpine 1 year ago
Its allowed to kill civilians in secular democracy !
Thats what ur governments do, go change ur laws and governments
U cant blame AlQaeda for using secular methods and use Collateral Damage also secular method;
So
God bless AlQaeda for turning Collateral Damage on America
penkallli 1 year ago
DawahFilm is just like all abrahamics and their books "Wishy-Washy".
holio84 1 year ago
retaliation for retaliation and the snow ball rolls downhill ever increasing in mass
WarriorSaladin 1 year ago
This was brilliant! My sentiments exactly. And what the fuck is wrong with me that I'm not sub'd to you already?
dmwalker24 1 year ago
Non muslim Allies..Who are they? Braindead Suicidal Idiots!
All muslims speak in riddles that because their message is so violent and contorted that they cant just say it. Its the old throw enough shit at the wall and hope that some will stick analogy. Nice beard by the way moron.
Soloman1001 1 year ago
threats and violence is all they know - it is always on the table
IslamicDeathCult 1 year ago
Left-wing extremists are the only guys we shouldn't be against
MsTommyknocker 1 year ago
Ali, of DawahFilms, is a little girl.
nohudna 1 year ago
LOL@ "go fuck yourself. It's a threat." There's no such thing as a moderate muslim. Anyone who takes islam seriously enough to "practice it" as written is either willing to pull the trigger on kafirs, or willing to cheer-lead for, and high-five, their "extremist" brethren who actually do their dirty work.
Swiley117 1 year ago 9
@Swiley117 I agree.
Universefreedom 1 year ago
Muslims & their countries are being Slaughtered. They're screaming to Wake USA Up, saying "USA CANNOT START WARS IN EVERY MUSLIM COUNTRY, INSTALL PUPPET GOVERNMENTS, OVERTHROW OUR COUNTRIES, KILL AND RAPE OUR PEOPLE BY THE MILLIONS, STEAL ALL OUR RESOURCES, GIVE EVERYTHING WE HAVE TO ISRAEL & YOUR CORPORATIONS, PROFIT FROM DEATH & WARS WITHOUT NO END, DO ANYTHING TO MUSLIMS THAT ISRAEL TELLS YOU TO DO, YOU CANNOT JUST BUILD A ONE WORLD GOV, TAKE AWAY OUR IDENTITIES, MAKE MIDDLE EAST YOUR EMPIRE"
halcyon0830 1 year ago
All American Presidents (all of them Christians) HAVE THREATENED OTHER COUNTRIES WITH VIOLENCE AND WARS, and also have started countless Wars in other countries, forcing other countries to accept American way of life and installing dictators into other countries, so are you now saying that All American Presidents were Extremist Christians and Terrorists and Criminals??
Some Muslims when angry may threaten others, but Christians, Jews & Atheist Dictators actually carry out their Threat/Genocides.
halcyon0830 1 year ago
@halcyon0830 Agree with you on the political right wing of the USA and its imperialistic theocracy of the last century, still, when you make dead threats you are not considered human being, be it a christian, muslim, or jew, when you threaten and kill in the name of your imaginary friend you belong in a asylum, heavy security area.
longstrider9999 1 year ago
@halcyon0830
STFU you terrorist apologist.
elsquibbs 1 year ago
Indeed! As mandated in the Qur´an! That Id call self-exposed! Good job, mister Muhammadan...
Wrath0fKhan 1 year ago
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Who is this pin head in this moderate Muslim video, why doesn't he do the world a favor and go blow himself up, just don't harm any Innocent camels, goats, or jack asses in the process, OK piss head............ your are nothing but a Muslim thug, a zero with out your other gang members, a camel fart in the wind.....
joewittstock 1 year ago
TF warns: extremists engaging in violence may one day necessitate genuine military response upon Islamic states; it's in moderates' best interest to quell extremism by not legitimizing it.
He also goes out of his way to explain it'll probably never happen b/c terrorists aren't a true threat. They'll only become so when extremism dominates an Islamic state's foreign policy. It is the responsibility of preventing extremism f/ becoming a majority that TF places at the feet of moderates.
onlyAerik 1 year ago
@onlyAerik "extremists engaging in violence may one day necessitate genuine military response upon Islamic states; it's in moderates' best interest to quell extremism by not legitimizing it." BTW, thats exactly what Sam Harris wrote in The End of Faith..but then, Sam Harris is not much liked among Muslims nowadays...
Nalae1978 1 year ago
You are quote mining him. It was really clear, if you watch the whole video, what he was talking about. I am a long time thunderf00t subscriber and an atheist, and I STILL got what dawahfilms was trying to say. TF made the same exact threat that the Muslims made about southpark and tried to disguise it in the same exact way. DF was pointing out that he and others have the right to defend themselves when innocent people are attacked. Don't forget, TF called them ants that we allow to exist!
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 "TF made the same exact threat that the Muslims made about southpark" These two statements are equal ?: "if you draw a cartoon of our prophet, you will die" compared to "If you threaten and attack us for being critical of your religion we will kick your ass"? The same book he references the "divine justice" to protect the innocents also demands the "divine justice" of killing unbelievers. If they obey one, is it unreasonable to assume they would obey both? There BOTH commandments
tallifer1 1 year ago
@tallifer1 I am not denying that the Koran has these things in it, I know it does. But that isn't what DF said. DF didn't threaten to kill unbelievers, he said if anyone killed innocent people, other people would kill them.
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930: "DF didn't threaten to kill unbelievers, he said if anyone killed innocent people, other people would kill them". Exactly. The problem is that this was in response to a video that - while maybe using overgeneralizing language in some parts and thus open to misinterpretation - did not at all threaten to kill innocent people. The innocents shown victimized by Muslim fundies in TfOOts video were predominantly - Muslim innocents.
Nalae1978 1 year ago
@Nalae1978 Do you know where the sleeping giant comes from? When Japan attacked the US, the Japanese said "I fear that we have awoken a sleeping giant". America was wealthy and had the heavy manufacturing to win the war. Now, we are no longer a sleeping giant, but a drunken giant walking around in a stupor, but to me it sounded like a weapons of mass destruction threat. Surely a weapons of mass destruction (nukes) would kill millions of innocent civilians(not that TF could nuke anyone)
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930: I understand that this might be one interpretation, but, if I may say so, its a very US-centric one :). The "sleeping giant" metaphor has also been applied to China (by Napoleon), to the ascendence of American Evangelicalism, demonstrations against anti-immigration law... and in many other very different contexts. In the context of the video it makes much sense to interpret it as meaning "those who defend the age of reason". And among these I would count moderate Muslims as well.
Nalae1978 1 year ago
@christo930: I suspect - I may be wrong - that this was an intentional misunderstanding. Presenting ones "own group" (or maybe people belonging to ones wider social group/ sharing ones world view) as a "victim" seems to be preferable to critically examine the violent ideas of fundies who are sharing ones faith. Why did Dawah not simply say: Hey, you are generalizing to much, but I agree that any death threats due to perceived insults are wrong. It would have been so easy...
Nalae1978 1 year ago
@christo930 Youre missing the point. the koran commands BOTH protection of innocents AND killing "infidels". If protecting innocents is a divine command then killing infidels is a divine command. Why should we assume a muslim will do one but not annother? If you get to decide which ones you follow the NEITHER are divine commands. Not to mention that person would be a hypocrite.
tallifer1 1 year ago
@tallifer1 But that isn't what he said. I already admit that I agree the Koran has dumb shit in it. He didn't say anything about killing any infidels.
christo930 1 year ago
Trust me it us who will awaken any sleeping giant, but I've been told flying planes into buildings and death threats against people using there freespeech might wake it up. And I'm sure any Japanese person would tell in engrish...."Don't fack with san US, say drop bombs on u!"
whydid666 1 year ago
Who is this pin head in this moderate muslim video, why doesn't he do the world a favor and go blow himself up, just don't harm any camels in the process, OK piss head............
joewittstock 1 year ago
He is a moderate muslim. Moderate muslims are extremists who are also demagogues.
UrsoDaCortesia 1 year ago
Who is this pin head in this moderate muslim video, why doesn't he do the world a favor and go blow himself up, just don't harm any camels in the process, OK fuck head............
joewittstock 1 year ago
I am sure he thinks the way he said it makes him not an extremist.
Shalek 1 year ago
Not only is dawah's death threat exactly like that made at the south park guys, but it's also exactly like the guys who hold up signs saying "behead those who call islam violent."
If you ask those sign-holders what the mean, they will also say "when you call us violent you're calling on others to do violence to us. Therefore, we must destroy you first."
That's exactly what dawah did. And like those sign holders, dawah's sense of irony on the subject is for naught.
That's extremism. QED
onlyAerik 1 year ago
And to make the similarity more salient, note that Muslims who engage in these death threats can hardly be found petitioning local government or community leaders to use peaceful means to discourage extremism and disparagement.
No, instead what you find is, the second they start talking Sharia, they take their demands straight to the nation state level. Go straight fed. Force everybody to kowtow to the taboo.
And when they speak of retaliation, it's never "some of us." It's ALL muslims.
onlyAerik 1 year ago
@onlyAerik "Behead those who call Islam violent" just reading that quote made me see the irony in it and I just had to laugh.
slicingwater 1 year ago
@slicingwater Unfortunately Muslims in the UK actually show up on borderline violent protests holding signs that say exactly that. I don't make the comparison lightly.
onlyAerik 1 year ago
@onlyAerik UK is insane. As bad as America is, the UK seems worse in a lot of ways. You have a politically correct nanny police state.
Antiks72 1 year ago
i love your candidness. i suspect mulsims have very small penises.
styrofoamheart 1 year ago
Perhaps this is what moderate Islam looks like.
SensibleSkepticism 1 year ago
As much as Dawah annoys me I think you misinterpreted him and ran with it - what he meant was that if you play a role in starting a war of islamic irradication that you should be killed. I wouldn't say that's extreme per se considering (OMG GODWIN LAW) that's kind of what hitler did.
WhiteDragon103 1 year ago
what a douche... pick up a hobby or something, stop getting your panties in such a raging twist just cause somebody disagrees with your particular fairytale...
blahdoot20 1 year ago
Good job getting your vid favorited by Thunderf00t!
AkataBackUp 1 year ago
The only compelling draw toward islam is the threats: Threats of hell, threats of death. Even in the koran, if you take out the threats of eternal torment, or the calls to make war against fitna (disbelief), or the kaffir (the disbeliever), there ain't much left. And it seems to be the only thing muslims have to offer, and since nobody is taking, they fly airplanes into buildings as a response.
CHAS1422 1 year ago
I like his hypnotic stare. How he tries to give more emphasis to his words by making short pauses and staring at the viewers like a snake is supposed to stare at a rabbit. He made a fool of himself because he completely (deliberately?) misunderstood TF's metaphor of the "sleeping giant".
Firithfenion 1 year ago
This is another "Just wow" moment.
LeksServices 1 year ago
Gods don't kill people, people with gods kill people" David Viaene
arizonaviking 1 year ago
The atheist persecution complex.
owchywawa 1 year ago
@owchywawa now thats the most ironic statement i've ever heard....
GeneralMontague 1 year ago
DawahFilms seems to love the DRAMATIC PAUSE!!!!
KnightTemplar108 1 year ago 8
Well said!
ristinraccoon 1 year ago
DawahFilms seems to think the West has no right to self-defense. So much for moderation.
Rindrand 1 year ago 16
@Rindrand Self-defense? You mean if we bomb them in Afghanistan and Iraq they won't attack us here anymore? Hmm that makes sense, except wait... What almost happened in New York on Sunday?
Pseudologic 1 year ago
I love this video. Keep fighting for freedom man!
kyledavidbyron 1 year ago
Problem is according to Islam, there is no "non-muslim" innocent person.
Because if you don't believe in Islam, then you are guilty by default, since according to Islam everyone is born muslim.
So believing in another religion, or being an atheist, is like apostasy.
The worst crime according to Islam. And all non muslims are guilty of it.
Therefore, there is no innocent people outside of Islam.
And Dawah knows it.
He's just playing with words.
And playing the victim card again.
FreeworldCrusader 1 year ago
Some other explanations here: alturl,com/a9me
FreeworldCrusader 1 year ago
and all i have to say to DawahFilms is.....FAIL
GumBa11Machine 1 year ago
Most of you judging this guy are acting like total dickheads on YouTube. I do too. Let's stop pretending that we're somehow better.
Pseudologic 1 year ago
@Pseudologic
I don't go around threatening people over silly religious dogma (or for any reason). I am better than Dawah.
Harabeck 1 year ago
@Harabeck You don't have the silly degenerate 20% of Thunderf00t's followers spamming your page when you disagree with him, either. So no you're no better than him, you demand tolerance of him and offer none in return. Being an atheist doesn't mean you have the moral authority to go and bash random people, who don't agree with you.
Pseudologic 1 year ago
@Pseudologic
There is a difference between disagreeing with thunderf00t and threatening to "send him to the god he wish he knew". Death threats do not deserve tolerance. I'm not bashing a random person who disagrees with me; I'm making it clear that threatening violence will only alienate you. If he wants tolerance from me, all he has to do is act like a civilized human being.
Harabeck 1 year ago 41
@Harabeck Hey buddy look at me. Forget about him for a second. I, the comrade atheist who doesn't threaten anyone, am telling you this. You're being a dick to the guy. It's not because he's threatening you, don't pretend that you're threatened. It's because he's got a beard and he reads Koran and you dislike him because he is different, that's it. I'm seriously disappointed in "atheist community." Most of them are just parrots lacking the ability to think autonomously or empathy.
Pseudologic 1 year ago
@Pseudologic You still seem to be purposely refusing to acknowledge that he made death threats! If he hadn't said that 'send him to the god he wish he knew' part, no one would have said a thing!
Threatening someone's life is unacceptable, it does not matter what religious belief you hold or lack, I do not understand why you are condoning his actions.
JonasC22 1 year ago
@Pseudologic I'm not threatened physically, but then, the attack on the twin towers didn't physically threaten me either. I'm not judging the guy because he has beard and reads the koran, do you see me commenting on other muslims? I'm expressing my disdain because he is employing fear tactics, which if not fought could eventually threaten our ways of life. Ya, it's a small threat, but commenting on a youtube video is a small response. This guy doesn't deserve empathy, he's making death threats.
Harabeck 1 year ago 10
@Harabeck WTC attacks didn't threaten you physically? Of course they did. You and hundreds of millions of Americans were shit-scared and you immediately let a dumbass on top to abandon all freedoms. The knee-jerk hateful reactions against all the Muslims who have since turned from moderate to extremist, because they were faced with MUSLIM = TERRORIST logic. I'm not defending hate speech, I'm just saying that this bullshit against him started before he uttered "threats."
Pseudologic 1 year ago
@Pseudologic No, I don't live in New York, at no point have I felt physically threatened by terrorists. As for people slamming him before he came out as a hateful bigot, well that wasn't me, and I don't see how it's relevant.
Harabeck 1 year ago
@Harabeck Seemed like Dawahfilms was acting like a civilised being until the 'sleeping giant' stuff.
Lingula77 1 year ago
@Harabeck We all know thunderft already called for genocide of ALL MUSLIMS.
He has been brainwashing all the ignorant ppl looking to spread their hate.
He has been pipping the word freedom AS IF you really got that anyway. And trust me he has a paid agenda.
People with an open mind can see thunderfoot wants war and death to muslims
its their all over his face.
A CALL TO ACTION was one of his last words on muslim population video.
WAKE UP.
Unity4allhumans 1 year ago
@Unity4allhumans Tfoot refers to fundamentalist extremist muslims sunshine... you fool no one... yes, yes, he has an agenda and works for the CIA in an evil masterplan blahblah... ROFLMAO
DocStrange0123 1 year ago
@DocStrange0123 NO he makes several statements which clearly stereotype all Muslims.
Do not make jokes about CIA corruption it has and will continue to occur.
But i am by no means saying that he is linked to CIA or government although sadly some politicians, government and authoritative members share his islamophobic views.
His videos are clear indications of his intentions to cause disunity and conflicts within different communities no conspiracy theories needed the blue print says it all.
Unity4allhumans 1 year ago
@Unity4allhumans stereotype all Muslims is what you want to see. sorry I make jokes about what I want, if there's a right you and me don't have is the right of not being offended, get over it.
DocStrange0123 1 year ago
@DocStrange0123 what u on about?
Unity4allhumans 1 year ago
@Unity4allhumans I don't understand the question.
DocStrange0123 1 year ago
@Pseudologic lol oh jeez I didn't realize judging an extremist for making death threats was being a dickhead. Some might say defending someone making death threats is being a dickhead.
In any event, everyone has the right to be a dick, but no one has the right to threaten someone's life.
JonasC22 1 year ago
As Interpreted in the Kurrrrawn! omg he should make the whole video with that accent... for the shits and giggles.
Charlymaumushi 1 year ago
Dawahfilms took the sleeping giant thing seriously. That's why I can't take him seriously.
ASTCify 1 year ago
"we will kill you" he was talking about IF YOU KILL INNOCENTS WE WILL FIGHT BACK!
This (specifically) wasn't about criticism of muslims it was a response to TF's rhetoric. He has other videos about criticizing islam but these quotes aren't about that.
I really hate having to defend muslims but everyone I subscribe to forcing me to point out that they just don't fucking listen.
Damn I just realized all the typos in my last comment.... ah well...
SamNoble89 1 year ago
@SamNoble89 Wait... where has my last comment gone to? FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!
SamNoble89 1 year ago
@SamNoble89
I think that's what Tfoot was saying in his video; "if radical nutters kill innocent westerners, then we could eassily kick your ass to mars and back, so don't fuck with us".
At least that's what I got from all these shenanigans.
arkanrais 1 year ago
@arkanrais I realize this but TF made no distinctions in his video. I doubt he would ever support genocide but since he didn't clarify anything people got things a little mixed up and dahwa jumped in emotionally due to the sensitive nature of the topic and the tone of TF video.
This is what happens when you don't make things clear and TF made a whole load of sweeping statements without any clarification but it was poorly handled on both sides.
SamNoble89 1 year ago
couldn't have said it better - subscribed.
1n354a 1 year ago
When was the last time this guy got laid?
Satanos777 1 year ago
What embodies all "children of god":
Believe me or suffer!
I recently got attacked on a teen forum for wondering what the fuck is going through the heads and minds of the religious because "I can't tolerate other peoples beliefs"
Why is it that people who are schizophrenic must be treated or else they can cause real damage, but people who are "religious" must be free to express and practice their beliefs? I'm getting sick of this degenerate society.
SCRulerShinoda 1 year ago 2
When we westerners say "moderate" we mean "people who leave non-believers alone" (as patricianatheist clearly means)
When a Muslim says "moderate" they mean something different. They mean they only get one orgasm watching the 9 yo get stoned to death as a punishment for being raped, not multiple orgasms like the extremists.
Killing those who insult islam is as much bread and butter to islam as baptism is to christians. The "moderate" we westerners are looking for is unrealistic.
newexperiment 1 year ago
100% agreement!
FDR FTW!
Hannsfeld 1 year ago
Religious folk are so insecure.
melowar78 1 year ago
WTF....who is waking me up?
cookeladoo 1 year ago
This is your best video yet (in my humble opinion).
Segepop 1 year ago
I don't think it's accurate to describe these things as "veiled death threats".
"Silence! I kill you!" is called a threat, but
"Silence! I kill you! This is not a threat!" is called a veiled threat, and I don't think it really is veiled.
Fjarhultian 1 year ago
Seriously - has there yet been a single Islamatard who hasn't pwned himself the minute he opens his mouth? I have not seen a single one not bring ridicule upon themselves or their beliefs when they speak of their faith. They really should just stay quiet and stick to the stealth jihad.
darrrkstarrr1969 1 year ago
I don't understand why DawahFilms hasn't been shut down yet. There is no question this Muslim jerk-off made a veiled threat, based on his violent stoneage religion.
OccamsView 1 year ago
@OccamsView becaus atheists tend not to flag.
Waage83 1 year ago
My only problem is that you call him an 'extremist' but hes using youtube to threaten people... you need a new label like 'extremist wannabe' lol
htmlrules 1 year ago
@htmlrules I like to call him a fanatic seems like accurate description.
Waage83 1 year ago
for dawah, the "sleeping giant" is an alleged atheist arab-hating cabal that's going to snap and conduct an anti-theist holocaust.
He's that deluded.
onlyAerik 1 year ago
@onlyAerik
I dunno... I wouldn't be surprised if he thought it was a literal giant atheist. RAAARRRRR!!!
jussts 1 year ago
@jussts lulz
But maybe, when you think about it, dawah doesn't entirely mean that the sleeping giant group will be atheists. He might actually think that videos like thunderf00t's will set off rednecks and other assorted fox news viewers like some kind of brainfarted powder keg.
onlyAerik 1 year ago
Who is that retard Ali with the fake beard. Qurrrrrr'aaaaan - nice rolling r:-) LOL!!!!!!!
NeedsEvidence 1 year ago
could someone ask him who his..... non musslim allys are
cause i am blocked
cheers
swinewarrior 1 year ago
DawahFilms is very condescending. In all his comments he says things like, "go read more. go educate yourself more. I am so much smarter than you."
He does not argue - he just throws mud.
NaomiChambers 1 year ago 26
@NaomiChambers Are you saying you don't need to read more? Or is it the fact that the advice comes from someone you see as backward and illiterate?
Pseudologic 1 year ago
It's not us that is awaking it fucking religious morons.
mrx0066600 1 year ago
wow, this was a mature way to respond...
JesusEclipse 1 year ago
i fart in that Muslim's general direction!
timtheloner 1 year ago
@timtheloner Don't. He'll be offended and lop your head off.
Fanatics are, after all, modern day barbarians who have no place in the modern world.
RJhasFLOW 1 year ago
Exactly.
ozmoroid 1 year ago
2:25 It's comforting to know that this God he talks about doesn't exist.
anthonzi 1 year ago
gah
why do these idiots have to drrrraaaaaag out their point(s)
do they actually think it will sound less intimidating???
just makes them sound stupid and scary
especially with those freakin eyes, he looks like he needs a white buckled jacket
Shadizar666 1 year ago
patricianatheist, you're such a johnny-come-lately. You're also taking his video out of context. Many, many videos have addressed T'f00t's initial saber rattling. You're quite in the wrong in this issue. Later!
Darw1n1st 1 year ago
muslims? isn't this joke over yet?
sphinxpress 1 year ago
Way to misunderstand and caricature DawahFilms as an extremist. The Muslim dude clearly misunderstood Thunderf00t's ambiguous message as a threat to all Muslims (innocent and non-innocent), and then you reply to him as though he were threatening all of Western society for not thinking like Muslims (even though he never said anything remotely like that).
Why is it hard to listen? I just don't get it.
mavaddat 1 year ago
@mavaddat
Sorry, but Thunderfoot's message was far from ambiguous that death threats such as those given to both him and the writers of south park are to be confronted and all should not be silent while extremists attempt to or successfully kill those who disagree with them.
garith21 1 year ago
@garith21 Thunderf00t was absolutely ambiguous when he referred to the "giant" retaliating against "Muslims". His video was overblown and reactionary. DawahFilms' response bought right into the emotionalism and misunderstood Thunderf00t, but he certainly didn't "threaten the West" or any such bullshit. PatricianAtheist's response was just an opportunity for letting loose some pent up emotion that was just not relevant to the situation.
mavaddat 1 year ago
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garith21 1 year ago
@garith21 Ok, fine. But Thunderf00t's message was (and still is) ambiguous. It's not at all clear whether he recognizes a distinction between Muslims of differing beliefs, let alone that we should respond differently to them.
Yeah, DawahFilms made three video responses so far clarifying what he meant. Those videos were "Death Threats & The Oh So Scary Muslim," "Clearing My Name (Contra AntyBu86)," and "Why Hate Speech Should Not Be Free To Speak." Just watch "Clearing My Name," for example.
mavaddat 1 year ago
@mavaddat
1) Sorry but no regular viewer nor anyone that takes the context of the video as a whole really finds it "ambiguous"
2) Um, in the context of the video it's assumed he's talking about extremists that use death threats and barbarism....it's like when people refer to extremist Christians, it's generally assumed to not mean all Christians.
3) If you want to see ambiguous his response video to TF was quite ambiguous was it not?
garith21 1 year ago
@garith21 If you believe Thunderf00t's video was not ambiguous, please show me how he distinguishes between the West's response to extremist Muslims as opposed to moderate Muslims.
Look, I'm not saying Thunderf00t wasn't addressing only extremists. I'm saying it's unclear what he thinks the distinction is between "extremists" and "moderates." That is the ambiguity.
Anyway, my main point was that PatricianAtheist's rant is silly in light of the fact that DawahFilms misunderstood Thunderf00t.
mavaddat 1 year ago
@mavaddat Thunderfoot clearly claims that the "sleeping dragon" was to be awaken in retaliation against "extremist" Muslims. He clearly said that. I suggest you watch the video once more.
RJhasFLOW 1 year ago
@RJhasFLOW Yes, that's correct; however, Thunderf00t does not distinguish between the West's response to moderate or extremist Muslims. He seems to imply that the West will take down Islam as a whole, even if that's not what he meant.
Look, I don't think Thunderf00t was ACTUALLY saying anything crazy. I'm just saying his video was ambiguous and it's understandable that this Muslim guy misunderstood it. In that light, PatricianAtheist's response is rather silly.
mavaddat 1 year ago
@mavaddat Lol. Ok.
You agreed with me, then disagreed with me. Let me quote TF.
"Let's say you threaten the Western world beyond crashing a few airliners, your only achievement will be to have awakened a sleeping giant."
By referencing 9/11, he was directing his speech to Muslim Fanatics.
Not too ambiguous, just easy to be lost in TF's rhetoric. This response is valid.
Any logical response is refreshing in the presence of this idiot, DawahFilms.
RJhasFLOW 1 year ago
@RJhasFLOW Thunderf00t's sleeping dragon is merely the Streisand Effect.
onlyAerik 1 year ago
@onlyAerik In a sense that the mass amount of views this subject will get results in a awakening of the "dragon" that is the public?
Not entirely following you here.
RJhasFLOW 1 year ago
@mavaddat
Try the context of the whole video? Where he only refers to the ideas of barbarism and death threats? He might make the mistake of assuming that all of his viewers know he's only referring to extremists, maybe he shouldn't assume that despite the fact that I'm definitely not the only regular viewer that understands that.
garith21 1 year ago
@mavaddat
Sorry, but it wasn't ambiguous and he never endorsed violence and mostly talks about the barbarism and not giving into death threats when it comes to free speech. He ridicules the violent threats and blasphemes Mohammad to show that he's not afraid of death threats and such barbarism has no place in the first world.
If you want to take 2 lines out of context of the entire video and call it ambiguous, okay, I'm hardly convinced though.
garith21 1 year ago
@garith21 Thunderf00t did endorse violence, and that's fine. I have no problem with violence when it is used to enforce justice. The ambiguity lies in his indiscriminate condemnation of "Muslims" without clearly identifying who qualifies as an "extremist" and a "moderate" and whether they would be treated differently when the "sleeping giant" awoke.
mavaddat 1 year ago
@mavaddat: "Moderate" muslim is an oximoron. Ali is living proof of that.
deauvillimus 1 year ago 13
@mavaddat
*rolls eyes* if you really can't tell that with the context of the whole video where he emphasizes entirelly on the barbarism that extremists are going to I really must question your judgment in using quote mines
garith21 1 year ago
@garith21 Please look up the definition of "ambiguity." It doesn't mean "clearly saying x." I'm not arguing that Thunderf00t was saying what DawahFilms thinks he was saying. I'm arguing that it was unclear what Thunderf00t was saying. For you to impose your interpretation retrospectively and thereby conclude that his video was absolutely clear is disingenuous at best...
mavaddat 1 year ago
@mavaddat
I'm merely pointing out that it's very clear from any rational sense that he was only referring to extremists when you take everything in the context of the entire video...his response to what Dawah said is separate from that so I fail to see why you even bring up TF's video response to that rather than the video that is in question.
garith21 1 year ago
@mavaddat: It was NOT ambiguous. He basically said Muslim extremism is, at this point, merely a major annoyance. If western civilization was truly in danger of being overrun, the power that could be unleashed is unimaginable. He's saying Muslims should mind their own business and not try to bend the western world to Islam's Iron-Age will.
blurglide 1 year ago
@ookami16 - Thank you. I was trying to stay out of it but...Oh well. :)
Christheatheist1 1 year ago
1:02 OF COURSE!
katey1dog 1 year ago
Non-Muslim allies? You have those?
flatbunny 1 year ago
@flatbunny Jannisaries. But I doubt they exist any more.
katey1dog 1 year ago