Hrm actually infinity (God) is nothing.The cosmological argument support this. Since an infinite series cannot exist, infinity must be nothing. And a series finite, and require the infinite (nothing) as it`s cause. But nothing is not something, and something does not "come out of nothing". They are not the same, aka the pantheistic view, as if nothing become something. That is illogical.
@ParadoxEternal I've read your post several times, and can't make heads or tails out of it. But I think you just proved the universe doesn't exist. Congratulations.
And I guess Cantor's Theorem was all for ... nothing.
But when theologians speak of the infinity of God, they are not using the word in a mathematical sense to refer to an aggregate of an infinite number of elements. God's infinity is, as it were, qualitative, not quantitative. It means that God is metaphysically necessary, morally perfect, omnipotent, omniscient, eternal, and so on.
The really funny part of these objections is that when atheists use them on YT they honestly think they've totally p0wned Craig with them. I'm sure they sit and wonder why these people that debate Craig never bring these things up with him. The truth is that any smart person realizes how ridiculous they really are and would in no way embarrass themselves by trying to use them in an actual debate with Craig in front of their peers. I love that he took the time to address these things.
"I'm sure they sit and wonder why these people that debate Craig never bring these things up with him. The truth is that any smart person realizes how ridiculous they really are and would in no way embarrass themselves by trying to use them in an actual debate with Craig in front of their peers"
Sigh.. i have an atheist friend, an intelligent fellow, yet.. he makes idiotic objections like this to things like the KCA, and against the idea of objective morality. Once i backed him into a corner he condescendingly said to me. "Dude metaphysics is a branch of philosophy and we cant trust in philosophy because it can be wrong, we need empiracle evidence" Why does a smart guy want to act so dumb?
@acceptjesusorburn Ask him how many working models of the atom have existed in the last 250 years. I think the number is somewhere around 4 (solid single unit, unit of mixed positive and negative charges, nucleus of positive charges surrounded by 'light' negative charges, nucleus of positive charges and neutral bits surrounded by 'light' negative charges, and now we have even smaller things...). Philosophy is no more nor less accurate than science when done properly.
some of these arguments are "any port in the storm" stuff
agnostaxian 2 weeks ago
God bless you William Craig!
Lehmanbrother123456 3 weeks ago
Love this! Keep bringing the vids, Drcraigvideos!
Tredoslop 3 weeks ago
Hrm actually infinity (God) is nothing.The cosmological argument support this. Since an infinite series cannot exist, infinity must be nothing. And a series finite, and require the infinite (nothing) as it`s cause. But nothing is not something, and something does not "come out of nothing". They are not the same, aka the pantheistic view, as if nothing become something. That is illogical.
ParadoxEternal 3 weeks ago
@ParadoxEternal I've read your post several times, and can't make heads or tails out of it. But I think you just proved the universe doesn't exist. Congratulations.
And I guess Cantor's Theorem was all for ... nothing.
philosophyetc 3 weeks ago
But when theologians speak of the infinity of God, they are not using the word in a mathematical sense to refer to an aggregate of an infinite number of elements. God's infinity is, as it were, qualitative, not quantitative. It means that God is metaphysically necessary, morally perfect, omnipotent, omniscient, eternal, and so on.
drp975 3 weeks ago
why would anyone dislike this?
h0lystrike 3 weeks ago
Wow, who would seriously defend that objection. It's nothing more than a cute joke..
StygianDysnomia 4 weeks ago in playlist World's Ten Worst Objections to Kalam Cosmological Argument
Why do people dislike this video?
Stianchez 4 weeks ago
@Stianchez Because they're Dawkins fans
Shredulex 4 weeks ago in playlist World's Ten Worst Objections to Kalam Cosmological Argument
The really funny part of these objections is that when atheists use them on YT they honestly think they've totally p0wned Craig with them. I'm sure they sit and wonder why these people that debate Craig never bring these things up with him. The truth is that any smart person realizes how ridiculous they really are and would in no way embarrass themselves by trying to use them in an actual debate with Craig in front of their peers. I love that he took the time to address these things.
Equestions 4 weeks ago
@Equestions Agreed, especially this
"I'm sure they sit and wonder why these people that debate Craig never bring these things up with him. The truth is that any smart person realizes how ridiculous they really are and would in no way embarrass themselves by trying to use them in an actual debate with Craig in front of their peers"
Stianchez 4 weeks ago
@EnlightenedReader So true.
KBrimstone 4 weeks ago
Sigh.. i have an atheist friend, an intelligent fellow, yet.. he makes idiotic objections like this to things like the KCA, and against the idea of objective morality. Once i backed him into a corner he condescendingly said to me. "Dude metaphysics is a branch of philosophy and we cant trust in philosophy because it can be wrong, we need empiracle evidence" Why does a smart guy want to act so dumb?
acceptjesusorburn 4 weeks ago in playlist World's Ten Worst Objections to Kalam Cosmological Argument
@acceptjesusorburn Ask him how many working models of the atom have existed in the last 250 years. I think the number is somewhere around 4 (solid single unit, unit of mixed positive and negative charges, nucleus of positive charges surrounded by 'light' negative charges, nucleus of positive charges and neutral bits surrounded by 'light' negative charges, and now we have even smaller things...). Philosophy is no more nor less accurate than science when done properly.
AMWOODco 4 weeks ago in playlist World's Ten Worst Objections to Kalam Cosmological Argument
Couldn't stop smiling at: "You have got to be kidding...(?)"..
MrVirtualCoder 4 weeks ago in playlist World's Ten Worst Objections to Kalam Cosmological Argument 4
@MrVirtualCoder I must say, this was quite funny: "Response to objection # 9... You've got to be kidding me"
seantaylor1334 4 weeks ago