Joe Smith was such a great prophet that when his wife caught him PORKING the teen maid, he "revealed", for the 1st time, that polygamy was divinely ordered (Wife #1 didn't buy the BS)
Later only to become legal, LDS flip-flopped on polygamy despite their own prophet's teaching
Romney's family tho, fled to Mexico illegally to keep polygamy going. Mitt's dad slipped back across the RioGrande to be 1st MexicanAmerican to run for Prez
FLDS is true to Joe Smith; LDS does a clever political game
@D: "bullshit at 14 i knew whether or not I wanted to have sex."
Two, from looking at your profile, you're fucking retarded!! ...the 'professional wrestling' is pretty much a definitive confirmation of that! By the age of 14 every person is hormonal, some ppl less, others more. Perhaps you were swimming in "sex on the brain".
...perhaps you still are! And perhaps you are and/or were one of those redneck's that looks at his four year old sister & wonder's if she has pubes yet?!
@SpookeyR So I'm retarded because of my love for pro-wrestling and anime, who the hell are you to judge me? Do you call everyone who has hobbies you dont know shit about a "retard"? close minded bigot,how can you judge something you've never watched?
Jeffs is on a hunger strike in jail. What's the matter Warren? You don't want to live if it means YOU are the bitch huh?! Poor baby...you must be tired of your ass being handed to you. You got what you deserved but, I'm sure you would get a whole lot more if your victim's could get ahold of your sick ass!
UTAH CODE-......HUSBAND AND WIFE...30-1-2 MARRIAGES PROHIBITED AND VOID...THE FOLLOWING MARRIAGES ARE PROHIBITED AND DECLARED VOID -....(3 ) WHEN THE MALE OR FEMALE IS UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE.......(5) BETWEEN PERSONS OF THE SAME SEX ...1993 (2nd S.S.)...THIS WAS DONE BY ILLUMINATI FREEMASONS IN UTAH WHO WANTED FLDS MONEY AND PROPERTY... FLDS HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER CHURCH WHICH MEANS THEY BELONG TO THE TRUE GOD AND HIS SON...TREMBLE SHURTLEFF, AND ALL DEVILS......JESUS COMES
Wow. Jeffs is basically looking for ways to get to that virgin pussy without paying for it. HE just wants to steal someone's daughter and bang that cherry before her daddy or anyone else gets to it.
@thehitchrules YUP WARREN JEFF GETS LIFE AND WOMEN who have sex with kids often GET 1 DAY OR 1 WEEK and then they're released from jail and statistics will prove this. I guess women are just too pretty and not capable of rape or harm to get any jail time thats why the kids most often keep those kinds of sexual secrets with the pedo women but NOT with the men, and also because the kids want the women as much as the women want the kids.
OxjhAn9. You are as sick as they are 12 and 14 yr olds are not mature or responsible. Enough to make those kind of decisions and furthermore. Warren Jeffs is a child molester!and he is gonna find out just what this feels like . And I also think the women that held these little girls down for this monster should be in jail with him
@D: "bullshit at 14 i knew whether or not I wanted to have sex."
Well, there's at least a couple of possibilities there! One, you wanted it & that's you. Perhaps you were just mature enough to handle it. Most kid's are not mature enough to handle it!
@fleticia I'm not talking about fucking a 50- year old dumbass. I'm talking about sex in general go back and re-read my comment. To say a 14 year old doesnt know if they want to have sex or not is BS.
@DgraymanKicksAss Yeah I understood your stupid ass comment you good for nothing piece of shit, but educate yourself about the fucking video and what Warren Jeffs was doing before posting a fucking retarded ass comment. These 14 year old girls weren't even supposed to touch any boys hand and they were taught to think of them as evil snakes to all of a sudden marry a 14 year old girl who has never even heard the word sex to a much older man was pretty fucking disgusting.
@fleticia You misinterpreted what I wrote, Im not talking about the girls in this video you fucking dolt. I was responding to a comment saying that "14 yrs arent mature enough to make the decisions to have sex" which is utter bullshit I lost my virginity when I was 14, maybe you didnt lose it until you were fucking 30 because you were fucking loser in school but dont blame it on the fact that "14 years aren't mature enough to have sex." I'm talking about 14 yr olds in general.
@DgraymanKicksAss So if a 14 year old kid would get a girl pregnant you're gonna tell me that they would support that baby 100% financially as well as emotionally???? BULLSHIT!!! I agree! 14 year olds are not mature enough to make that decision. All they have are hormones going crazy, that doesn't make them mature... You are probably a 16 year old that is willing to fuck a broom as long as it has a skirt on... Sorry kiddo that doesn't make you mature ; D
@fleticia Ugh, way to over exagerate, did they teach you nothing in sex ed? Teenagers having sex is nothing is nothing new jackass. Maybe YOU were the one that wasn't mature enough when you were14, probably the kid who followed everyone around like a dog eh? Don't think just because your balls hadn't dropped yet, that everyone elses hadnt already. But dont worry bro, no matter what your mother will always love you,as long as you pucker up every morning you can continue living in her basement ;)
The thing is this rescue was in April of 2001 and I went to the FBI and recorded my calls! Certain very powerful attorneys and judges in Utah were running interference. A federal probe is needed and there are thousands of independent funde's whom take young girls, but know one is investigating these! The FLDS or the Jeffs group is the largest, but only one of dozens of schisms!
@fincenMIB - LDS will run "interference" for FLDS. They believe in the same thing, same "prophet", same doctrine
The only difference is that LDS made political (no changes to book of mormon) changes ONLY in order to gain acceptance of Utah as a state and to release hundreds of polygamists in jail. (Romneys fled to Mexico though) Same with the official racism (late 1970's)
FLDS is keeping the faith pure. Many LDS find it admirable. Perhaps some say, with enough acceptance, LDS can revert.
@mcgaugh57 I'm not sure what the subject of GOD and Warren Jeffs have to do with each other? The two have NEVER MET. You don't go from immorality to defiance of and disbeilef in God. That is a downward spiral that denies that a creator loves us. Pull yourself up to the damn bar.
the religious dont have the right to impose their opinions and beliefs upon others but they have the right to practice and share their opinions and beliefs among themselves People have to stop harassing and persecuting those who conscent among themselves whatever it is, and in the case in reffering to,its not the age that counts its conscent and appreciation between two people.
other people meddling and denying a 12 year olds right to be with an older guy that that she wants to be with for the sake of intolerant opinions and people that enjoy making society a prison filled with useless moral garbage, bitterness , and disharmonious mental states of intolerances, is what should be a crime, i dont know everything about warren jeffs case, but as far as being with consensual 12 and 15 yo young women is concerned jeffs shouldn't be jailed for that...thats for sure
S IT TRUE THAT THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS HAS BEEN IN DROUGHT SINCE TRANSFERRING WARREN JEFFS TO TEXAS PRISON????HOW MANY PARENTS HAVE SEXUALLY ACTIVE, UNMARRIED 14 YEAR OLDS? WHAT HAVE ANY OF US DONE ABOUT THE BABIES UNDER 14 WHO ARE BEING USED FOR PROSTITUTION AND PORN? UTAH CODE STATES MARRIAGE..14 WITH CONSENT OF PARENT...WE ARE ALL CALLED OUT OF BABYLON...WHO HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD?
the useless moral garbage based on delusions and obsessions with age limits is the problem, my mom got married at 12 no one saw a problem in the 50s, this new obsessional age limit quackery is just hate, those who are uncomfortable with something keep inventing descriptions and words of disgust masked as morals to make something look bad and to bias society, you just have to lower the age limits to 12 and stop creeping people out with bullshit intolerances and scorn masked as morals
@oxjhan9 12 year olds did not marry in the 50s unless they were part of a cult or in some sick situation. I guarantee people DID think a thing about it and they thought plenty. Like your mom is going to tell you that NOW. Guarantee it was a scandal in decent society.
@carolineislands dude your off the track first i dont come from your country, and in america decency is an excuse for intolerance and scorn, i know about my moms marriage better than you, a law is an intolerance a moral is an intolerance and the foundation for both is hate.
People dont have the right to make up excuses and dogmas to impose their beliefs and opinions upon others, because thats intrusion harassment and persecution, People who share the same conscentual beliefs shouldn't be forced to live according to other peoples opinions and beliefs, intolerant haters and antagonists need to be separated from those who share the same beliefs and interests, those who hate intrude and persecute have made society a prison with distorted moral garbage for long enough
Those against jeffs are using biased hate based deceptive psychology , at 12yo youre a young woman, not a child, problem is some americans are hate filled fools that have this ridiculously blind infantilising pathetic behavior towards their offspring, rather than a rational logic in sync with natural processes, and teaching mental precociousness and early achievement .But infantilising out of ideological preference is a form of retardation.
@oxjhan9 If this is how you really feel, then why aren't you promoting 12 year boys marrying 12 year old girls instead of grown men who have to injure these poor girls by forcing their adult sized penis into their 12 year old vaginas? You PERVERT. Jeffs can see how far his excuses fly with the big burly convicts he lives with now. I'm sure he's already found out what it feels like to be sexually violated by now.
@carolineislands ....SPIRITUAL MARRIAGE IS NOT PHYSICAL MARRIAGE....HOW MANY OF OUR YOUNG CHOOSE TO FORNICATE AT A YOUNG AGE???? YOU SOUND LIKE ONE OF THEM WHO HAS NEVER REPENTED.....
These people are truely warped and Texas should only be the first compound to get this kind of treatment. They united states needs to shut them down, and look into their money making options. Treat it like organized crime and stick to all the child molesting idiots. The women are just as bad as the men. Truely pathetic human beings.
UTAH CODE-......HUSBAND AND WIFE...30-1-2 MARRIAGES PROHIBITED AND VOID...THE FOLLOWING MARRIAGES ARE PROHIBITED AND DECLARED VOID -....(3 ) WHEN THE MALE OR FEMALE IS UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE.......(5) BETWEEN PERSONS OF THE SAME SEX ...1993 (2nd S.S.)...THIS WAS DONE BY ILLUMINATI FREEMASONS IN UTAH WHO WANTED THEIR MONEY AND PROPERTY... FLDS HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER CHURCH WHICH MEANS THEY BELONG TO THE TRUE GOD AND HIS SON...TREMBLE SHURTLEFF, AND ALL DEVILS......JESUS COMES
@Americangal18 me too. so grateful. what a demented sicko. i feel very sorry for all the people and kids who had to put up with this retard. he is not a real man. real men don't hurt children.
Like Catholic priests, they are pedophiles being excused for their illegal, abhorrent behavior by the church and their religion. Why are they above the rules of society that we must abide by? Disgusting pigs.
@Sk8gangsta1 PEDO WOMEN WHO HAVE SEX WITH 13 YEAR OLDS are often released from jail in 1 week because they are too pretty to go to jail but men are CRUCIFIED because men are capable of rape and harm, correct?
You can believe whatever you want but once you put a child in danger with your teachings, it isn't acceptable by any means.15 is a kid, who deserves to only be a kid.
someday when I grow up, I want to help people escape these awful situations, from barred cults like the FLDS to domestic violence cases in "normal society". I want to liberate people. I want to help give chained souls an outlet, to be free. I want to help break up this cycle of lies, abuse, violence and opression, one link at a time. I don't know how I'm going to do it, but it's one of my life goals. A fire inside of me. I want the hurt to be free.
I am so fed up with sickos trying to have legal rights in our Nations I am finally going to start a group like MADD...to get my point across that Canada and America are fed up with the likes of this and all the political correct bologne they exspect us to swollow as the imoral try to take over our nations....
@CYRINTHIA212 can you imagine a transfer of guardianship so they can marry these young girls and then grooming them from as young as 6 years old so they are prepared to marry these pyschopaths this is exaclty the same as the Islamic nations acsept they are not in the middle east and these are trying to fight our laws in Canada to make this legal....and some liberal idiots are willing to let it happen...holy canoly bat man I want to puke Lord help us!
@fingerborder Look, I haven't really shouted at you, so you don't need to be so aggressive. You don't have to try so hard going a long reply just to prove you're right and end up being rude. Cause' I had said I don't care about your words. Besides, "why are you trying to change other peoples minds", so do you. So is better for you to end it now. Goodbye.
@fingerborder I am so fed up with you. Arguing with you is shortening my life, cause' you just don't get what I mean. You are so big headed thinking that you're the only people who right and other people wrong. I tried talk nice to you, but you replied me with lots of nasty words. You make me proud of myself for having believe in God. The issue I wrote my very 1st comment is not becoz the different religion these people have, but it's the girl who suffer from action of people try to be God.
@fingerborder Yeah you thought you win,isn't that so happy for you? So you finally admit you are trying to prove something? This is my very last reply to you. I don't just sit there to wait for someone to solve my problem. In fact nobody does. God is something of spiritual encouragement, but it takes a man to make out something happen. I can't say why would you not believing in God. But it's your problem, so don't need to be so nasty to people who believe in thing you just cant believe.
@fingerborder " I didnt try to brain wash you or scare you into to believing anything, did i?" Well, wrote a long comment certainly is not your hard pity effort try to convince me or other people that read your comment that atheist like you is better than people of other religion who believe in God. So you feel like you win and a hero at youtube? I can't say how much sorry I feel for you. Or how much happy you are to win the very prestige debate, on youtube?
The US government needs to quit worrying about the money and votes they'll loose from these nut cases and go in there and bust this flds terrorist organization apart for good,,,quit playing games,,,these little girls and little boys lives depend upon it,,,both girls and boys in this group are raped repeatedly ,,,, Pitiful ,,,and they have no where to run to ,,,I hope Warren Jeffs never sees the light of day again ,,,,
"The only good Chauvinist is a castrated chauvinist" -Ellie Would anybody like to cheese grate his balls with me? The thing is he has attempted suicide and is being force-fed by the state, so if we hurt him, we have to make sure we don't hurt him that much, so he doesn't get an infection and die (which he wants to do)- has anyone seen and studies the movie Seven by chance?
I myself hava four wifes. i musta beat them savagely or they donta do whatta I tell them to do. My neighbor he a tells me he is a gonna call the police on me for the beatings I give them. I tell him, "I have married them. They are my property. I will beat them when I want. Mind your own business". The best thing abouta plural marriage is you have a four different woman, each with a three holes. Thatsa twelve holes to choose from. I supporta the polygamy.
@juslookin3 - There are laws that prohibit underage marriage and also plural marriage. These people do not live by the laws of the US; they claim they are above them. Sorry, if they don't like the laws of the United States, please look elsewhere for a home. They do not deserve our freedoms if they mock our Constitution and law system. Why do you think Jim Jones moved his followers to such a remote country like Guyana?
BTW We call having sex with an underage person as "statutory rape".
@Cissy2cute Do you mock the Constitution when you break laws of your state? I bet that you're not unlike the 90% of people who intentionally break traffic laws, thereby endangering others. It's easy to join in the chorus of hate against these people at this time when they are at a height of unpopularity. You might bloviate against the abolitionists who gave fugitive slaves sanctuary before 1865 as mocking the Constitution. They should have just moved out of USA if they didn't like slavery.
@juslookin3 - As long as they choose to live within our borders, they should obey our laws or take their business elsewhere. The last I looked, rape was rape and incest was incest and BOTH are against the laws of any civilized country.
I haven't even touched on their financial dealings. Go watch the film "Banking On Heaven" to see the full extent of what is going on with these so-called godly people.
I despise the men who run it, and feel pity for the women and children who remain victims.
@Cissy2cute First, rape is against their religion/culture just as it is in any culture, and it happens just like any culture. Define incest. Cousins can marry in most states. They don't marry siblings or parents with children. Illegal incest happens, just like it happens in your culture. Most of your "victims" accept the FLDS lifestyle; otherwise, it wouldn't continue. A minority despise it, and some are victimized, just like in any culture.
@juslookin3 - Really? Then you need to do some research and find out what "statutory rape" is. We are not talking about cousins, but step-sisters marrying their "fathers"-and worse.
Apparently you are getting only one side of this story. BTW, tax dollars are going to support their huge families through welfare, food stamps etc. Again, they thumb their noses at our laws but are happy to reap the benefits.
Once more, I steer you towards "Banking On Heaven". And don't forget the Lost Boys.
@Cissy2cute Incest is sex between close blood relatives. Step-relations are not blood relatives. "Statutory rape" is always qualified as such, as it isn't really rape. Let's stick to one issue at a time, instead of you going all over the place with your vituperations. Age of consent is arbitrarily defined by man. God (or nature, for atheists) determines true sexual maturity around 12 y/o. I know you'd love to argue against God for making it so young, but you can't change the fact.
@juslookin3 You are defending these people for some unknown reason. Statutory rape is wrong, and in this country we have a minimum age of consent. There is a difference between sexual maturity and emotional maturity. A girl can become mature at 10-should she then mate?
Society sets up rules for a reason. With your reasoning, we should just do away with all " arbitrary" laws. Most of these girls don't want to marry these old men. They are being treated like breeding machines.
@Cissy2cute In USA, age of consent varies from 16 to 18. In the 1990s, it was as low as 14. I'm sure that someone like you, so concerned about others' sex lives & marriage, is horrified that teenagers actually have sex. Unfortunately, most of it is fornication. Again, the fact is that sexual maturation is set by God/Nature, not man's arbitrary line, which changes with time & culture. Not that long ago, voting age was 21. Maybe you'd like to increase age of legal discretion to 20s or 30s?
@Cissy2cute Not all their marriages are between teenagers and old men, as you characterize it. A main case that got Jeffs in trouble was a marriage between 2 young people. The girl didn't like it. They shouldn't be forced to marry, and I don't know how much of that goes on, but people like you paint everything in the worst way. If it was so universally horrible, the women wouldn't go along with it. The fact is that this subculture works for the most part.
alot of this shit i blame the parents of these kids for allowing some serial rapist,pervert,child molesting motherfucker like warren jeffs to even get close to your child.religion is not important to me at all if i have to let some old pervert have sex with my kids or wife.from day one you should have gotten the fuck out of there.are these people that fucking blind & desperate to allow this shit to happen in any church or sect. people wake the hell up and stop getting taken advantage of damn
A male child would rather be maried off to a girl his own age.A female child would rather be married off to a boy her own age not an old fart who is old enough to be her grandfather. marrying off a child to adult is very wrong and is sad this crime of marriying children and minors to adults has to stop period. there are more people like warren jeffs is just pedophile religious nut. I won't judge these poligamistpedophile nuts God and Jesus will judge them.
Thats because in the US they have to follow there own bogus laws and deal with the POS lawyers they train. While in other countries they have free reign to do what they want.
For being a country that prides itself of being "protectors" of the humanity the US government is doing a lousy job with all those children condemned to live a life of polygamy.
Even those who are adults now, didn't choose the life they live, they were brainwashed into accepting the lifestyle and they are too scared of the real world to try and live in it.
They have NO CHOICE.
C'mon USA, you are supposed to be the land of freedom.
The Comment several comments below is ridiculous. The dowry or the bride price is Saudi Arabia's way of selling females like chattel/cattle. There is also sigheh - where a woman or girl can be sold for a temporary marriage - a contract determines how long the "marriage" lasts. I guess if you're a Muslim male then Sharia may protect you from slavery. There's even a video on YouTube where a demonstrator is exulting we will take your women as war "booty" - very deluded comment donaldcito.
OMG! she said wives were taken away and given...given...given.... GIVEN to other men. OMG! shuffling girls across boarders like guns and drugs. Slavery is illegal in Canada too isn't it? Of course it is, slavery is illegal every where except Saudi Arabia.
slavery is probably MOST illegal in Saudi Araba, where Sharia is so conservativley and strictly followed. it forbids a man to own another living person....
The FLDS makes up just a tiny part of the problem. Priests, ministers, preachers, rabbis, imams, and all manner of clergy have been raping children for years with support from the leaders of their respective religions and without any prosecution. The problem is not the FLDS...it's religion. Churches pay no taxes in this country and they are virtually untouchable because they claim to have the authority of an infallible God. Too many people believe this stupid shit so nothing is done
the fdls ended up this way because one man called himself prophet and that he made his own rules to suit himself instead of reading the Bible. When Warren took over those women went from the frying pan into the fire! New rules were no tv, no books, no red.
its not necessarily that they r evil, just that they think this is the only way to live, and u hav 2 respect their thoughts. u may not like or (je deteste!!!) wutever, but all ppl hav rights
Sure people have rights but Pedophiles and child rapist have no rights they are evil and should be punished for there sins. If you truly believe that the way pedophiles lead there life should be respected how about serial killers psychopaths should they also be respected for there different out look on life hu ? Are they the true misunderstood victims in this world?
no matter what they are, no person can take away rights from other people. i completely disagree with the entire thought on multiple marriages of younger women and older men, and vice versa, but no one has the right to punish them, ie torture, but God. and i dont think they are killer psycopaths, just worldly disconnected and brainwashed.
So say for example a pedophile rapes your child you would protect that pedophiles rights to harm your child just because he likes it and it feels good for him? Is that your argument?
I think you are completely misunderstanding. I'm not saying they were doing anything right, in fact i COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH THEM, but u arent listening. And what they did, was make it so the parents felt tht underage marriages r good, they arent. Hav u evr heard of the Boston Massacre, and who defened the British soldiers? I don't agree with them, but only God can punish a person or persons.
You are missing the point, and I am sorry if you don't agree, The point is that these ppl are being branded as pedophiles, and they are not. They are easy to hit so they get hit. Meanwhile you have true pedophiles out there and the money that is being spent to persicute these ppl is being spent so that CPS and other Gov officials can justify their paychecks. They are producing RED HERRINGS. Listen to the this guy..he is looking for a NIGHTMARE case he can make a name for himself.
true, i agree to u 2 some extent, but the men operated companies and therefore knew the way of the world and know it is legally, not valid 2 marry an underage girl
im not speaking ethically or morally 4 different ppl have different thoughts
You aren't FLDS cause you don't know shit! Jack cooke was a stray but a friend before he died. He fucked both his daughters and did 5 years in prison, he was FLDS and they were 13 & 15.
Clyde Mackert FLDS fucked his daughters all underage and the FLDS elevated him.
I didn't like Johnny Jessop in my home, but he being FLDS fucked his daughter, then had designs on his granddaughters, yes he is registered.
Myrom 14 did his cousin 5 years old, then he commited suicide!
Dan Barlow Jr. the Mayors son molested 5 of his daughters and after the FLDS church required them to plead for leintcy in their fathers trial in Mohave county, he got 13 days in jail.
I can go on all day!
Some of you defenders of the FLDS are just CPS haters, but you are stupid beyond belief. Court records of PRIOR cases don't seem to matter. All you know is Texas, some of us predate TEXAS!
@2possi That is ridiculously stereotypical. I have Muslim friends and I can say for a fact that none of them would EVER support ANYTHING like this. I also have Morman friends, and they would NEVER agree with this either!
Bible says if you rape a girl the punishment is you have to marry her, the old testament is evil as fuk, somehow god became a much nicer god for the new testament
is the dude speaking warren jeffs? what are they talking about? is the girl that he is talking to a lawer and he is trying to marry a girl that is 15 or what?
janieiscool1: In response to your statement " Luckily, 99.999% of Mormons are actually against this sort of stuff too." I would estimate only 60% of Mormons are against this stuff. I you believe more, your sources are not being truthful or you are mislead....
Well, in today's society, that would be a bad thing to do. Obviously, if there was no law against it, and it wasn't frowned upon, it would be frowned upon, but because of today's circumstances, I'd find marrying a 13 year-old girl disgusting.
Luckily, 99.999% of Mormons are actually against this sort of stuff too. :)
It is what occurs when a girl choses to run from a closed society. She calls a contact for help, that contact calls other activist for help. Then plans are made to qualify the threat or abuse and set safe houses. A lot goes into a rescue. Do I know you Naomi?
Hotherbert? What about sex education? Isn't that child abuse as well? The truth is that kids are having sex at 12 already and in kindergardens, schools they are being abused by some retard strangers. And you say they are all ok.
What then is morally wrong with a teenager marrying a adult if it is consenting kind of thing? Only because of the school system made by some idiots.
Whether the children or teens consent or not, they are still too young to know what they are agreeing to and the extent of the consequences of their actions. That is why we hold adults accountable for their actions regarding children, expecting the adults to know better and protect the kids rather than take advantage of their naivette and innocence. Any kind of child abuse is wrong and should not be overlooked. I don't know where you live, but that kind of behavior does not fly where I am.
Seeing all this religious foolishness makes me ever more glad I've been an atheist since about 8 or 9 years old. Religions cause nothing but problems and rob people of thinking rationally.
hotherbert-god's law? What law? Take your pick. From what religion and which god? Under this god's law hundreds of thousands were burned at the stake and hung.
Polygamy made sense in primitive societies. Fact is, we have evolved and live in a whole different age.
@TheYubsu - So prove there is a god. If so, he's asleep at the wheel. One visit to any children's hospital should be more than enough evidence to cause a rational person to start questioning his existence. Oh, I forgot, he's testing their faith. Nice guy.
I suppose you believe there's only one deity. What makes anyone think that the Greeks, Romans, or any other peoples were wrong? They believed as strongly in their gods as you do in yours. Doesn't make it true.
@Cissy2cute While you're at it, since you're so high on the law, why not criticize the colonial revolutionaries & terrorists who broke the then governing laws, and committed treason against England in the late 18th Century? Homosexual acts are still illegal in some states. Are gay people mocking the Constitution? Which laws do you approve of being ignored, broken, or flouted? Just the ones that YOU disagree with?
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Joe Smith was such a great prophet that when his wife caught him PORKING the teen maid, he "revealed", for the 1st time, that polygamy was divinely ordered (Wife #1 didn't buy the BS)
Later only to become legal, LDS flip-flopped on polygamy despite their own prophet's teaching
Romney's family tho, fled to Mexico illegally to keep polygamy going. Mitt's dad slipped back across the RioGrande to be 1st MexicanAmerican to run for Prez
FLDS is true to Joe Smith; LDS does a clever political game
dleechristy 3 weeks ago
I not worth going back and forth with an idiot ; D
fleticia 4 months ago
@D: "bullshit at 14 i knew whether or not I wanted to have sex."
Two, from looking at your profile, you're fucking retarded!! ...the 'professional wrestling' is pretty much a definitive confirmation of that! By the age of 14 every person is hormonal, some ppl less, others more. Perhaps you were swimming in "sex on the brain".
...perhaps you still are! And perhaps you are and/or were one of those redneck's that looks at his four year old sister & wonder's if she has pubes yet?!
SpookeyR 4 months ago
@SpookeyR So I'm retarded because of my love for pro-wrestling and anime, who the hell are you to judge me? Do you call everyone who has hobbies you dont know shit about a "retard"? close minded bigot,how can you judge something you've never watched?
DgraymanKicksAss 4 months ago
I hope Warren Jeffs' ass is so loose by now in prison that someone could shove an entire "Total Body Gym" up his ass...SIDEWAYS.
A86 5 months ago
Jeffs is on a hunger strike in jail. What's the matter Warren? You don't want to live if it means YOU are the bitch huh?! Poor baby...you must be tired of your ass being handed to you. You got what you deserved but, I'm sure you would get a whole lot more if your victim's could get ahold of your sick ass!
MisterJokerToker 5 months ago
Typical Black people and their cults, Oh wait a minute...
born912 5 months ago
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Repent....get baptized in Jesus name......get filled with holyghost before its to late (Act 2:38)
Gis1able 5 months ago
What is love? baby don't hurt meeee, don't hurrrt meeee no more!
LFrithable 5 months ago
UTAH CODE-......HUSBAND AND WIFE...30-1-2 MARRIAGES PROHIBITED AND VOID...THE FOLLOWING MARRIAGES ARE PROHIBITED AND DECLARED VOID -....(3 ) WHEN THE MALE OR FEMALE IS UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE.......(5) BETWEEN PERSONS OF THE SAME SEX ...1993 (2nd S.S.)...THIS WAS DONE BY ILLUMINATI FREEMASONS IN UTAH WHO WANTED FLDS MONEY AND PROPERTY... FLDS HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER CHURCH WHICH MEANS THEY BELONG TO THE TRUE GOD AND HIS SON...TREMBLE SHURTLEFF, AND ALL DEVILS......JESUS COMES
NOSERPICOINUTAH 5 months ago
@fab42 hail!
Peach4801 5 months ago
All Hail The Flying Spagetti Monster!
fab42 5 months ago 3
Wow. Jeffs is basically looking for ways to get to that virgin pussy without paying for it. HE just wants to steal someone's daughter and bang that cherry before her daddy or anyone else gets to it.
malenakiss 5 months ago
@malenakiss .....YOU ARE A SICK PUPPY......JESUS COMES SOON....THERE WILL BE NO WHERE FOR YOU TO HIDE.......
NOSERPICOINUTAH 5 months ago
35 years without parole . Good. Vile pig.
thehitchrules 5 months ago
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@thehitchrules YUP WARREN JEFF GETS LIFE AND WOMEN who have sex with kids often GET 1 DAY OR 1 WEEK and then they're released from jail and statistics will prove this. I guess women are just too pretty and not capable of rape or harm to get any jail time thats why the kids most often keep those kinds of sexual secrets with the pedo women but NOT with the men, and also because the kids want the women as much as the women want the kids.
domram12 5 months ago
OxjhAn9 I don't know of any 12 yr olds that want to marry an old man.
Even if they did want to marry it's a mute point... they belong with their parents...they are only 12 years old.
sweetniko1 5 months ago
OxjhAn9. You are as sick as they are 12 and 14 yr olds are not mature or responsible. Enough to make those kind of decisions and furthermore. Warren Jeffs is a child molester!and he is gonna find out just what this feels like . And I also think the women that held these little girls down for this monster should be in jail with him
Aldensmawmaw 5 months ago 9
@Aldensmawmaw bullshit at 14 i knew whether or not I wanted to have sex.
DgraymanKicksAss 5 months ago
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@D: "bullshit at 14 i knew whether or not I wanted to have sex."
Well, there's at least a couple of possibilities there! One, you wanted it & that's you. Perhaps you were just mature enough to handle it. Most kid's are not mature enough to handle it!
SpookeyR 4 months ago
@DgraymanKicksAss . At 14 I did not think of having sex with a 50+ year old man. Maybe U did but most kids that age don't!!!!
fleticia 4 months ago
@fleticia I'm not talking about fucking a 50- year old dumbass. I'm talking about sex in general go back and re-read my comment. To say a 14 year old doesnt know if they want to have sex or not is BS.
DgraymanKicksAss 4 months ago
@DgraymanKicksAss Yeah I understood your stupid ass comment you good for nothing piece of shit, but educate yourself about the fucking video and what Warren Jeffs was doing before posting a fucking retarded ass comment. These 14 year old girls weren't even supposed to touch any boys hand and they were taught to think of them as evil snakes to all of a sudden marry a 14 year old girl who has never even heard the word sex to a much older man was pretty fucking disgusting.
fleticia 4 months ago
@fleticia You misinterpreted what I wrote, Im not talking about the girls in this video you fucking dolt. I was responding to a comment saying that "14 yrs arent mature enough to make the decisions to have sex" which is utter bullshit I lost my virginity when I was 14, maybe you didnt lose it until you were fucking 30 because you were fucking loser in school but dont blame it on the fact that "14 years aren't mature enough to have sex." I'm talking about 14 yr olds in general.
DgraymanKicksAss 4 months ago
@DgraymanKicksAss So if a 14 year old kid would get a girl pregnant you're gonna tell me that they would support that baby 100% financially as well as emotionally???? BULLSHIT!!! I agree! 14 year olds are not mature enough to make that decision. All they have are hormones going crazy, that doesn't make them mature... You are probably a 16 year old that is willing to fuck a broom as long as it has a skirt on... Sorry kiddo that doesn't make you mature ; D
fleticia 4 months ago 2
@fleticia Ugh, way to over exagerate, did they teach you nothing in sex ed? Teenagers having sex is nothing is nothing new jackass. Maybe YOU were the one that wasn't mature enough when you were14, probably the kid who followed everyone around like a dog eh? Don't think just because your balls hadn't dropped yet, that everyone elses hadnt already. But dont worry bro, no matter what your mother will always love you,as long as you pucker up every morning you can continue living in her basement ;)
DgraymanKicksAss 4 months ago
The thing is this rescue was in April of 2001 and I went to the FBI and recorded my calls! Certain very powerful attorneys and judges in Utah were running interference. A federal probe is needed and there are thousands of independent funde's whom take young girls, but know one is investigating these! The FLDS or the Jeffs group is the largest, but only one of dozens of schisms!
fincenMIB 5 months ago
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NOSERPICOINUTAH 4 months ago
@fincenMIB - LDS will run "interference" for FLDS. They believe in the same thing, same "prophet", same doctrine
The only difference is that LDS made political (no changes to book of mormon) changes ONLY in order to gain acceptance of Utah as a state and to release hundreds of polygamists in jail. (Romneys fled to Mexico though) Same with the official racism (late 1970's)
FLDS is keeping the faith pure. Many LDS find it admirable. Perhaps some say, with enough acceptance, LDS can revert.
dleechristy 1 week ago
Anyone that believes in a pretend god and lets a so called prophet have their kids should be in prison with this scum. god is a fraud
mcgaugh57 5 months ago 3
@mcgaugh57 I'm not sure what the subject of GOD and Warren Jeffs have to do with each other? The two have NEVER MET. You don't go from immorality to defiance of and disbeilef in God. That is a downward spiral that denies that a creator loves us. Pull yourself up to the damn bar.
malenakiss 5 months ago
@malenakiss No creator and no god. We are space dust and that's all we will ever be.
mcgaugh57 5 months ago
@mcgaugh57 speak for yourself buddy
inspktr51 5 months ago
@inspktr51 Deal with reality not fantasy.
mcgaugh57 5 months ago
@mcgaugh57 whats reality?
inspktr51 5 months ago
@inspktr51 Reality is a world and life of no pretend gods, seeing the universe as it is. Not as some other men have written in a novel.
mcgaugh57 5 months ago
@mcgaugh57 - Atheism is not reality and neither is theism, they're both unfalsifiable philosophies. Not scientific facts.
A86 5 months ago
the religious dont have the right to impose their opinions and beliefs upon others but they have the right to practice and share their opinions and beliefs among themselves People have to stop harassing and persecuting those who conscent among themselves whatever it is, and in the case in reffering to,its not the age that counts its conscent and appreciation between two people.
oxjhan9 5 months ago
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@oxjhan9 ''its not the age that counts its conscent and appreciation between two people''
Really.
jfsfrnd 5 months ago
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other people meddling and denying a 12 year olds right to be with an older guy that that she wants to be with for the sake of intolerant opinions and people that enjoy making society a prison filled with useless moral garbage, bitterness , and disharmonious mental states of intolerances, is what should be a crime, i dont know everything about warren jeffs case, but as far as being with consensual 12 and 15 yo young women is concerned jeffs shouldn't be jailed for that...thats for sure
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S IT TRUE THAT THE WHOLE STATE OF TEXAS HAS BEEN IN DROUGHT SINCE TRANSFERRING WARREN JEFFS TO TEXAS PRISON????HOW MANY PARENTS HAVE SEXUALLY ACTIVE, UNMARRIED 14 YEAR OLDS? WHAT HAVE ANY OF US DONE ABOUT THE BABIES UNDER 14 WHO ARE BEING USED FOR PROSTITUTION AND PORN? UTAH CODE STATES MARRIAGE..14 WITH CONSENT OF PARENT...WE ARE ALL CALLED OUT OF BABYLON...WHO HEARD THE VOICE OF GOD?
NOSERPICOINUTAH 5 months ago
the useless moral garbage based on delusions and obsessions with age limits is the problem, my mom got married at 12 no one saw a problem in the 50s, this new obsessional age limit quackery is just hate, those who are uncomfortable with something keep inventing descriptions and words of disgust masked as morals to make something look bad and to bias society, you just have to lower the age limits to 12 and stop creeping people out with bullshit intolerances and scorn masked as morals
oxjhan9 5 months ago
@oxjhan9 12 year olds did not marry in the 50s unless they were part of a cult or in some sick situation. I guarantee people DID think a thing about it and they thought plenty. Like your mom is going to tell you that NOW. Guarantee it was a scandal in decent society.
carolineislands 5 months ago
@carolineislands dude your off the track first i dont come from your country, and in america decency is an excuse for intolerance and scorn, i know about my moms marriage better than you, a law is an intolerance a moral is an intolerance and the foundation for both is hate.
oxjhan9 5 months ago
People dont have the right to make up excuses and dogmas to impose their beliefs and opinions upon others, because thats intrusion harassment and persecution, People who share the same conscentual beliefs shouldn't be forced to live according to other peoples opinions and beliefs, intolerant haters and antagonists need to be separated from those who share the same beliefs and interests, those who hate intrude and persecute have made society a prison with distorted moral garbage for long enough
oxjhan9 5 months ago
Those against jeffs are using biased hate based deceptive psychology , at 12yo youre a young woman, not a child, problem is some americans are hate filled fools that have this ridiculously blind infantilising pathetic behavior towards their offspring, rather than a rational logic in sync with natural processes, and teaching mental precociousness and early achievement .But infantilising out of ideological preference is a form of retardation.
oxjhan9 5 months ago
@oxjhan9 If this is how you really feel, then why aren't you promoting 12 year boys marrying 12 year old girls instead of grown men who have to injure these poor girls by forcing their adult sized penis into their 12 year old vaginas? You PERVERT. Jeffs can see how far his excuses fly with the big burly convicts he lives with now. I'm sure he's already found out what it feels like to be sexually violated by now.
carolineislands 5 months ago
@carolineislands ....SPIRITUAL MARRIAGE IS NOT PHYSICAL MARRIAGE....HOW MANY OF OUR YOUNG CHOOSE TO FORNICATE AT A YOUNG AGE???? YOU SOUND LIKE ONE OF THEM WHO HAS NEVER REPENTED.....
NOSERPICOINUTAH 5 months ago
@carolineislands your a hate filled chastity obsessed quack dude
oxjhan9 5 months ago
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oxjhan9 5 months ago
These people are truely warped and Texas should only be the first compound to get this kind of treatment. They united states needs to shut them down, and look into their money making options. Treat it like organized crime and stick to all the child molesting idiots. The women are just as bad as the men. Truely pathetic human beings.
angiesdrkside77 5 months ago
Warren Jeffs is an ugly retarded motherfucker. Feel so bad for the girls who had his diseased little prick in them.
Pepper6464 5 months ago
UTAH CODE-......HUSBAND AND WIFE...30-1-2 MARRIAGES PROHIBITED AND VOID...THE FOLLOWING MARRIAGES ARE PROHIBITED AND DECLARED VOID -....(3 ) WHEN THE MALE OR FEMALE IS UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE.......(5) BETWEEN PERSONS OF THE SAME SEX ...1993 (2nd S.S.)...THIS WAS DONE BY ILLUMINATI FREEMASONS IN UTAH WHO WANTED THEIR MONEY AND PROPERTY... FLDS HAVE BEEN PERSECUTED MORE THAN ANY OTHER CHURCH WHICH MEANS THEY BELONG TO THE TRUE GOD AND HIS SON...TREMBLE SHURTLEFF, AND ALL DEVILS......JESUS COMES
NOSERPICOINUTAH 5 months ago
I'm so glad I wasn't rasied like that.
Americangal18 5 months ago
@Americangal18 me too. so grateful. what a demented sicko. i feel very sorry for all the people and kids who had to put up with this retard. he is not a real man. real men don't hurt children.
PotawatomiApiwa 5 months ago
@FincenMB Why you don't you display the full video like it was recordered with image? Because it's a fake video!!!
mariebk10 5 months ago
This kid (15 year old still a kid!) must be isane or brain wash by Jeff Waren.
mariebk10 5 months ago
Please go to change.org and look for my petition remove the children from the Warren Jeffs compound
texasdiva123 5 months ago
Like Catholic priests, they are pedophiles being excused for their illegal, abhorrent behavior by the church and their religion. Why are they above the rules of society that we must abide by? Disgusting pigs.
sheilaraerobinson 5 months ago
warren will burn in the lowest measurement of hell
Sk8gangsta1 5 months ago
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@Sk8gangsta1 PEDO WOMEN WHO HAVE SEX WITH 13 YEAR OLDS are often released from jail in 1 week because they are too pretty to go to jail but men are CRUCIFIED because men are capable of rape and harm, correct?
domram12 5 months ago
lol omg, so you can't read playboy but you can sure as hell fuck your daughter and underaged women.
MrKommienezuspadt 6 months ago 2
You can believe whatever you want but once you put a child in danger with your teachings, it isn't acceptable by any means.15 is a kid, who deserves to only be a kid.
CCMegaMusic 6 months ago
someday when I grow up, I want to help people escape these awful situations, from barred cults like the FLDS to domestic violence cases in "normal society". I want to liberate people. I want to help give chained souls an outlet, to be free. I want to help break up this cycle of lies, abuse, violence and opression, one link at a time. I don't know how I'm going to do it, but it's one of my life goals. A fire inside of me. I want the hurt to be free.
WishingOnSunflowers 7 months ago
I am so fed up with sickos trying to have legal rights in our Nations I am finally going to start a group like MADD...to get my point across that Canada and America are fed up with the likes of this and all the political correct bologne they exspect us to swollow as the imoral try to take over our nations....
lucy9359 8 months ago
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@lucy9359 stop fucking complaining you big baby.. don't knock it til you have tried fresh pussy
nihonjinonnanochitsu 7 months ago
THIS IS HORRIBLE..THIS IS SLAVERY
CYRINTHIA212 9 months ago 11
@CYRINTHIA212 can you imagine a transfer of guardianship so they can marry these young girls and then grooming them from as young as 6 years old so they are prepared to marry these pyschopaths this is exaclty the same as the Islamic nations acsept they are not in the middle east and these are trying to fight our laws in Canada to make this legal....and some liberal idiots are willing to let it happen...holy canoly bat man I want to puke Lord help us!
lucy9359 8 months ago
-Ecco un pezzo di merda pedofilo tutto di cristo! le religioni sia cattoliche o separatiste..il loro scopo sono il denaro e scoparsi i bambini!
salvatoregiordano1 10 months ago
And the FLDS, and also the LDS stands against same-sex-marriage. What a stupid church!
BrighamYoungisgay 10 months ago
Someone need to go into the fundamentalist mormons community and teach them the REAL religion.
playwithjustice 1 year ago
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fingerborder 10 months ago
@fingerborder Whatever. I won't change my stand just because your words.
playwithjustice 10 months ago
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fingerborder 10 months ago
@fingerborder Look, I haven't really shouted at you, so you don't need to be so aggressive. You don't have to try so hard going a long reply just to prove you're right and end up being rude. Cause' I had said I don't care about your words. Besides, "why are you trying to change other peoples minds", so do you. So is better for you to end it now. Goodbye.
playwithjustice 10 months ago
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fingerborder 10 months ago
@fingerborder I am so fed up with you. Arguing with you is shortening my life, cause' you just don't get what I mean. You are so big headed thinking that you're the only people who right and other people wrong. I tried talk nice to you, but you replied me with lots of nasty words. You make me proud of myself for having believe in God. The issue I wrote my very 1st comment is not becoz the different religion these people have, but it's the girl who suffer from action of people try to be God.
playwithjustice 10 months ago
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fingerborder 10 months ago
@fingerborder Yeah you thought you win,isn't that so happy for you? So you finally admit you are trying to prove something? This is my very last reply to you. I don't just sit there to wait for someone to solve my problem. In fact nobody does. God is something of spiritual encouragement, but it takes a man to make out something happen. I can't say why would you not believing in God. But it's your problem, so don't need to be so nasty to people who believe in thing you just cant believe.
playwithjustice 10 months ago
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fingerborder 10 months ago
@fingerborder " I didnt try to brain wash you or scare you into to believing anything, did i?" Well, wrote a long comment certainly is not your hard pity effort try to convince me or other people that read your comment that atheist like you is better than people of other religion who believe in God. So you feel like you win and a hero at youtube? I can't say how much sorry I feel for you. Or how much happy you are to win the very prestige debate, on youtube?
playwithjustice 10 months ago
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qiniftyhj 1 year ago
The US government needs to quit worrying about the money and votes they'll loose from these nut cases and go in there and bust this flds terrorist organization apart for good,,,quit playing games,,,these little girls and little boys lives depend upon it,,,both girls and boys in this group are raped repeatedly ,,,, Pitiful ,,,and they have no where to run to ,,,I hope Warren Jeffs never sees the light of day again ,,,,
pugdogy 1 year ago
"The only good Chauvinist is a castrated chauvinist" -Ellie Would anybody like to cheese grate his balls with me? The thing is he has attempted suicide and is being force-fed by the state, so if we hurt him, we have to make sure we don't hurt him that much, so he doesn't get an infection and die (which he wants to do)- has anyone seen and studies the movie Seven by chance?
ellier0215 1 year ago
what is this recording from? who is it between?
estimad08 1 year ago
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I myself hava four wifes. i musta beat them savagely or they donta do whatta I tell them to do. My neighbor he a tells me he is a gonna call the police on me for the beatings I give them. I tell him, "I have married them. They are my property. I will beat them when I want. Mind your own business". The best thing abouta plural marriage is you have a four different woman, each with a three holes. Thatsa twelve holes to choose from. I supporta the polygamy.
jackstrawfrmwchta 1 year ago
Who are the people talking on the phone?
Zickcermacity 1 year ago
Fix Ms. Wall's NAME. It's Elissa. Even a simple misspelling can undermine the validity of a post.
Zickcermacity 1 year ago
sick man..
MsMultiQueen 1 year ago
sickening
barnett682 1 year ago
nasty
EliteAmericans 1 year ago
This is despicable! I thought in America, we are free to marry who we want. Shameful!
juslookin3 1 year ago
@juslookin3 - There are laws that prohibit underage marriage and also plural marriage. These people do not live by the laws of the US; they claim they are above them. Sorry, if they don't like the laws of the United States, please look elsewhere for a home. They do not deserve our freedoms if they mock our Constitution and law system. Why do you think Jim Jones moved his followers to such a remote country like Guyana?
BTW We call having sex with an underage person as "statutory rape".
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
@Cissy2cute Do you mock the Constitution when you break laws of your state? I bet that you're not unlike the 90% of people who intentionally break traffic laws, thereby endangering others. It's easy to join in the chorus of hate against these people at this time when they are at a height of unpopularity. You might bloviate against the abolitionists who gave fugitive slaves sanctuary before 1865 as mocking the Constitution. They should have just moved out of USA if they didn't like slavery.
juslookin3 1 year ago
@juslookin3 - As long as they choose to live within our borders, they should obey our laws or take their business elsewhere. The last I looked, rape was rape and incest was incest and BOTH are against the laws of any civilized country.
I haven't even touched on their financial dealings. Go watch the film "Banking On Heaven" to see the full extent of what is going on with these so-called godly people.
I despise the men who run it, and feel pity for the women and children who remain victims.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
@Cissy2cute First, rape is against their religion/culture just as it is in any culture, and it happens just like any culture. Define incest. Cousins can marry in most states. They don't marry siblings or parents with children. Illegal incest happens, just like it happens in your culture. Most of your "victims" accept the FLDS lifestyle; otherwise, it wouldn't continue. A minority despise it, and some are victimized, just like in any culture.
juslookin3 1 year ago
@juslookin3 - Really? Then you need to do some research and find out what "statutory rape" is. We are not talking about cousins, but step-sisters marrying their "fathers"-and worse.
Apparently you are getting only one side of this story. BTW, tax dollars are going to support their huge families through welfare, food stamps etc. Again, they thumb their noses at our laws but are happy to reap the benefits.
Once more, I steer you towards "Banking On Heaven". And don't forget the Lost Boys.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
@Cissy2cute Incest is sex between close blood relatives. Step-relations are not blood relatives. "Statutory rape" is always qualified as such, as it isn't really rape. Let's stick to one issue at a time, instead of you going all over the place with your vituperations. Age of consent is arbitrarily defined by man. God (or nature, for atheists) determines true sexual maturity around 12 y/o. I know you'd love to argue against God for making it so young, but you can't change the fact.
juslookin3 1 year ago
@juslookin3 You are defending these people for some unknown reason. Statutory rape is wrong, and in this country we have a minimum age of consent. There is a difference between sexual maturity and emotional maturity. A girl can become mature at 10-should she then mate?
Society sets up rules for a reason. With your reasoning, we should just do away with all " arbitrary" laws. Most of these girls don't want to marry these old men. They are being treated like breeding machines.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
@Cissy2cute In USA, age of consent varies from 16 to 18. In the 1990s, it was as low as 14. I'm sure that someone like you, so concerned about others' sex lives & marriage, is horrified that teenagers actually have sex. Unfortunately, most of it is fornication. Again, the fact is that sexual maturation is set by God/Nature, not man's arbitrary line, which changes with time & culture. Not that long ago, voting age was 21. Maybe you'd like to increase age of legal discretion to 20s or 30s?
juslookin3 1 year ago
@Cissy2cute Not all their marriages are between teenagers and old men, as you characterize it. A main case that got Jeffs in trouble was a marriage between 2 young people. The girl didn't like it. They shouldn't be forced to marry, and I don't know how much of that goes on, but people like you paint everything in the worst way. If it was so universally horrible, the women wouldn't go along with it. The fact is that this subculture works for the most part.
juslookin3 1 year ago
@juslookin3 they force them all to its just some go along with it some dont
halyie 1 year ago
alot of this shit i blame the parents of these kids for allowing some serial rapist,pervert,child molesting motherfucker like warren jeffs to even get close to your child.religion is not important to me at all if i have to let some old pervert have sex with my kids or wife.from day one you should have gotten the fuck out of there.are these people that fucking blind & desperate to allow this shit to happen in any church or sect. people wake the hell up and stop getting taken advantage of damn
str8outtatexas1 1 year ago
don't we have to judge that they are doing wrong in order to stop them?!
MultiHannah1995 1 year ago
A male child would rather be maried off to a girl his own age.A female child would rather be married off to a boy her own age not an old fart who is old enough to be her grandfather. marrying off a child to adult is very wrong and is sad this crime of marriying children and minors to adults has to stop period. there are more people like warren jeffs is just pedophile religious nut. I won't judge these poligamistpedophile nuts God and Jesus will judge them.
ROBOTASSHOLE 1 year ago
sick
looksi 1 year ago
Funny thing is, they keep using the word "marry", when it is so obvious this is just raping a minor or getting another concubine.
Maybe they like the word "marry", because tor them, I suppose it means "legal intercourse".
For many of us, I know it's much more than so....
omatsu123 1 year ago 2
The US government has no qualms about entering another country and start a war to "protect" humanity and liberate the world from Saddam Hussein.
And yet, they are doing nothing to stop those abusers in their own country.
Vega01 2 years ago 5
Thats because in the US they have to follow there own bogus laws and deal with the POS lawyers they train. While in other countries they have free reign to do what they want.
dowutado 1 year ago
For being a country that prides itself of being "protectors" of the humanity the US government is doing a lousy job with all those children condemned to live a life of polygamy.
Even those who are adults now, didn't choose the life they live, they were brainwashed into accepting the lifestyle and they are too scared of the real world to try and live in it.
They have NO CHOICE.
C'mon USA, you are supposed to be the land of freedom.
Vega01 2 years ago
Anyway I should comment on this Video's subject for more testimonies of people who lived a ploygamous life and escaped read
Church of Lies (Flora Jessop)
Stolen Innocence (Elissa Wall)
Lost Boy (Brent Jeffs)
Then you can make an informed opinion on this issue. I may be an over-educated snob, but I do my research.
klassytome 2 years ago 3
@klassytome Everything Flora Jessop relates in her book is true-- the abusers must be stopped
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago
@IanHunedoara8 I believe her too, that's why I reccomend Flora Jessp's book.
klassytome 1 year ago
The Comment several comments below is ridiculous. The dowry or the bride price is Saudi Arabia's way of selling females like chattel/cattle. There is also sigheh - where a woman or girl can be sold for a temporary marriage - a contract determines how long the "marriage" lasts. I guess if you're a Muslim male then Sharia may protect you from slavery. There's even a video on YouTube where a demonstrator is exulting we will take your women as war "booty" - very deluded comment donaldcito.
klassytome 2 years ago
I'm so confused...
TheYoRomeo 2 years ago
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This guy looks like a fucking JEW to me.
oldstock1607 2 years ago
disgusting pedophiles and adulterers. Just another group of Joseph SMith worshippers
awolLDSasap 2 years ago 7
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Why is controlling females bad again?
fitzpatrick2005 2 years ago
Thank God someone's there to help these poor girls.
carlasue88 2 years ago 6
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mormons lots of wives
can i join in?
I want 5 18yo's
cool!
cds162 2 years ago
this is sick
Fatushka 2 years ago 35
OMG! she said wives were taken away and given...given...given.... GIVEN to other men. OMG! shuffling girls across boarders like guns and drugs. Slavery is illegal in Canada too isn't it? Of course it is, slavery is illegal every where except Saudi Arabia.
Candide333 2 years ago 4
slavery is probably MOST illegal in Saudi Araba, where Sharia is so conservativley and strictly followed. it forbids a man to own another living person....
donaldcito 2 years ago 2
zrsgallygirl
FLDS loser! Go get a real job, taxpayers are tired of supporting you while you blog all day, defending a ring of pedophiles!
Warren confessed any one here can watch it on YouTube! Then his diary was even more damning!
You need a LIFE or show some creativity and make your own YouTube web page, then we can discuss your video's instead.
Tell them who you really are! Tithing and tax dollars don't make what you do a job. Warren doesn't want you posting here!
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The FLDS makes up just a tiny part of the problem. Priests, ministers, preachers, rabbis, imams, and all manner of clergy have been raping children for years with support from the leaders of their respective religions and without any prosecution. The problem is not the FLDS...it's religion. Churches pay no taxes in this country and they are virtually untouchable because they claim to have the authority of an infallible God. Too many people believe this stupid shit so nothing is done
andyrooney12 10 months ago
@fincenMIB warren?go to a doctor,trat you self,let children be free,let them go to school
audia8long1 5 months ago
OMG! I found one! I found one actually sounds latgit!...congratz MIB!
zrsgallygirl 2 years ago
the fdls ended up this way because one man called himself prophet and that he made his own rules to suit himself instead of reading the Bible. When Warren took over those women went from the frying pan into the fire! New rules were no tv, no books, no red.
criticalgal 2 years ago 7
wow this is like islam i dont no why peaple class thes peaple as christians ther not ther evil peaple
2possi 3 years ago
You should never steryotype other religions, like Islam. I am muslim and I do not support this sh#t
hahaha2531 3 years ago 9
its not necessarily that they r evil, just that they think this is the only way to live, and u hav 2 respect their thoughts. u may not like or (je deteste!!!) wutever, but all ppl hav rights
artistanime 3 years ago
Sure people have rights but Pedophiles and child rapist have no rights they are evil and should be punished for there sins. If you truly believe that the way pedophiles lead there life should be respected how about serial killers psychopaths should they also be respected for there different out look on life hu ? Are they the true misunderstood victims in this world?
2possi 3 years ago 3
no matter what they are, no person can take away rights from other people. i completely disagree with the entire thought on multiple marriages of younger women and older men, and vice versa, but no one has the right to punish them, ie torture, but God. and i dont think they are killer psycopaths, just worldly disconnected and brainwashed.
artistanime 3 years ago
So say for example a pedophile rapes your child you would protect that pedophiles rights to harm your child just because he likes it and it feels good for him? Is that your argument?
2possi 3 years ago 5
I think you are completely misunderstanding. I'm not saying they were doing anything right, in fact i COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH THEM, but u arent listening. And what they did, was make it so the parents felt tht underage marriages r good, they arent. Hav u evr heard of the Boston Massacre, and who defened the British soldiers? I don't agree with them, but only God can punish a person or persons.
artistanime 3 years ago
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You are missing the point, and I am sorry if you don't agree, The point is that these ppl are being branded as pedophiles, and they are not. They are easy to hit so they get hit. Meanwhile you have true pedophiles out there and the money that is being spent to persicute these ppl is being spent so that CPS and other Gov officials can justify their paychecks. They are producing RED HERRINGS. Listen to the this guy..he is looking for a NIGHTMARE case he can make a name for himself.
zrsgallygirl 2 years ago
true, i agree to u 2 some extent, but the men operated companies and therefore knew the way of the world and know it is legally, not valid 2 marry an underage girl
im not speaking ethically or morally 4 different ppl have different thoughts
artistanime 2 years ago 2
You aren't FLDS cause you don't know shit! Jack cooke was a stray but a friend before he died. He fucked both his daughters and did 5 years in prison, he was FLDS and they were 13 & 15.
Clyde Mackert FLDS fucked his daughters all underage and the FLDS elevated him.
I didn't like Johnny Jessop in my home, but he being FLDS fucked his daughter, then had designs on his granddaughters, yes he is registered.
Myrom 14 did his cousin 5 years old, then he commited suicide!
fincenMIB 2 years ago
Dan Barlow Jr. the Mayors son molested 5 of his daughters and after the FLDS church required them to plead for leintcy in their fathers trial in Mohave county, he got 13 days in jail.
I can go on all day!
Some of you defenders of the FLDS are just CPS haters, but you are stupid beyond belief. Court records of PRIOR cases don't seem to matter. All you know is Texas, some of us predate TEXAS!
Watch Jeffs confession and read his diary!
Then get a job and quit wasting taxes!
fincenMIB 2 years ago 2
Any one who defends this is either mental or just full of shit...
cruwysgirl 2 years ago 53
Agreed.
RichhhR 2 years ago
@artistanime its not about respecting thoughts its about right and wrong and they are wrong!!!
TheYubsu 1 year ago
@2possi That is ridiculously stereotypical. I have Muslim friends and I can say for a fact that none of them would EVER support ANYTHING like this. I also have Morman friends, and they would NEVER agree with this either!
berriesmoothie4871 1 year ago
Bible says if you rape a girl the punishment is you have to marry her, the old testament is evil as fuk, somehow god became a much nicer god for the new testament
videowatcher765 3 years ago
because it focuses on jesus. the old testimate is the jew bible
viketaker 3 years ago
@videowatcher765 god has alwys been good read your bible lost soul
TheYubsu 1 year ago
In the bible many spiritual men had concubines...Didn't Jacob even marry two sisters?
mathmexican4234 3 years ago 2
WTF IS this?
VioletClub 3 years ago
is the dude speaking warren jeffs? what are they talking about? is the girl that he is talking to a lawer and he is trying to marry a girl that is 15 or what?
iLuvEdward333 3 years ago
oooouch!!
shut the fuck up! like being controlled? :) P7
4450149 3 years ago
wat the hell, she's too young dude
My limit for dating is at least 2 years younger, other than that its just too nasty lol
camara20 3 years ago
Come to Daddy! Scumbag!
smmeegal 3 years ago
janieiscool1: In response to your statement " Luckily, 99.999% of Mormons are actually against this sort of stuff too." I would estimate only 60% of Mormons are against this stuff. I you believe more, your sources are not being truthful or you are mislead....
updikem 3 years ago 3
WHAT THE CRAP LOL
loltothewall 3 years ago
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An intimate relationship between a young girl and an older guy can be a beautiful thing.
He can teach her how to be a woman, and she can provide for him what ALL men crave.
Most of these girls are consenting. There's nothing wrong with it. I'd love to marry a 13-year-old girl.
Slacker374 3 years ago
Well, in today's society, that would be a bad thing to do. Obviously, if there was no law against it, and it wasn't frowned upon, it would be frowned upon, but because of today's circumstances, I'd find marrying a 13 year-old girl disgusting.
Luckily, 99.999% of Mormons are actually against this sort of stuff too. :)
janieiscool1 3 years ago
PIG! thats all i have to say!
missboomarisetty 3 years ago
your preety wierd
diomar0911 3 years ago
slack you make me sick. you nasty pedophilde shit head
crud24 3 years ago 2
You should be reported to the authorities as a danger to children. I hope you get arrested and they send you up for years you filthy pedophile.
faeryquene 2 years ago
can sobody tell me what this is ?
na0mi0 3 years ago
It is what occurs when a girl choses to run from a closed society. She calls a contact for help, that contact calls other activist for help. Then plans are made to qualify the threat or abuse and set safe houses. A lot goes into a rescue. Do I know you Naomi?
fincenMIB 3 years ago
Hotherbert? What about sex education? Isn't that child abuse as well? The truth is that kids are having sex at 12 already and in kindergardens, schools they are being abused by some retard strangers. And you say they are all ok.
What then is morally wrong with a teenager marrying a adult if it is consenting kind of thing? Only because of the school system made by some idiots.
ShahMashya 3 years ago
Children and teenagers can never consent to sex.
Janvierireland 3 years ago 3
Whether the children or teens consent or not, they are still too young to know what they are agreeing to and the extent of the consequences of their actions. That is why we hold adults accountable for their actions regarding children, expecting the adults to know better and protect the kids rather than take advantage of their naivette and innocence. Any kind of child abuse is wrong and should not be overlooked. I don't know where you live, but that kind of behavior does not fly where I am.
YugoSrce 3 years ago 3
Seeing all this religious foolishness makes me ever more glad I've been an atheist since about 8 or 9 years old. Religions cause nothing but problems and rob people of thinking rationally.
hotherbert-god's law? What law? Take your pick. From what religion and which god? Under this god's law hundreds of thousands were burned at the stake and hung.
Polygamy made sense in primitive societies. Fact is, we have evolved and live in a whole different age.
Cissy2cute 3 years ago 2
@Cissy2cute theres only one god!! and he makes you think rationally!! other wise all would be confused as yu are!!
TheYubsu 1 year ago
@TheYubsu - So prove there is a god. If so, he's asleep at the wheel. One visit to any children's hospital should be more than enough evidence to cause a rational person to start questioning his existence. Oh, I forgot, he's testing their faith. Nice guy.
I suppose you believe there's only one deity. What makes anyone think that the Greeks, Romans, or any other peoples were wrong? They believed as strongly in their gods as you do in yours. Doesn't make it true.
Cissy2cute 1 year ago
@Cissy2cute While you're at it, since you're so high on the law, why not criticize the colonial revolutionaries & terrorists who broke the then governing laws, and committed treason against England in the late 18th Century? Homosexual acts are still illegal in some states. Are gay people mocking the Constitution? Which laws do you approve of being ignored, broken, or flouted? Just the ones that YOU disagree with?
juslookin3 1 year ago
MEN WHO DO WICKEDNESS IN THE NAME OF YHWH and JESUS CHRIST...there is a hotter hell for these people!
christophorM 3 years ago