@AldousFinch you are wrong about orions belt vanishing like that, is your map corresponded to the area of Jerusalem?? because thats not what happens, the constellations are clearly visible in the evening approx yr 0. also the elevation changes on differnt days, its not actually the same. 3 kings are very much in popular christian belief, the stars are called KINGS in some, and have every bit of actual relevance to ASTRO-THEOLOGISM. Thats the real point. You cant debunk a debunk like that.
Wait, how come every refutiation I see is just about the religious critisizm that zeitgeist makes? We don't care what religious institution you are into. All we care about is what part of your religion do you actually use? What reciprocates into positive actions that helps people? The whole, "I believe in jesus and I'm save and you're going to hell" is nothing but verbal masturbation and does NOTHING for our current state. Present soloutions. Thats all the movement has done, not you.
So this "rebuttal" is just defending of christianity. Well, at least it was constructive... still, it doesn't make me want to start believing any old books.
Why defend yourselves? Who cares about Zeitgeist being right or wrong. Just turn off your TV, close your bible and go out in nature... now sit down, look around you and meditate on our way of living. Can we keep living like this? Is it sustainable for our planet? Are we globally happy? Is everyone fed and free?
Zeitgeist is about constructing a better world. The Venus Project is one proposed solution. Its time we sit down together and discuss solutions, not problems or whose fault it is... love
visible from Egypt, say. The myth can then develop, become independent of the astrology, and migrate or become merged with early Christianity.
I'm a little disappointed (though not necessarily surprised) that the whole astrology stuff doesn't necessarily work, I thought it was kinda beautiful.
Hi- thanks for this video it's really good. I have to say the astrotheological stuff is what fascinated me most about Zeitgeist- I'm an agnostic, btw.
Your points are good, however, I think that to analyse the astrology from the perspective of Jerusalem may miss the point. It rebutts the claims of Zeitgiest, but if the Christian mythology is based on earlier pagan theology (eg Osiris, Mithras), and THAT theology has an astrological basis, then the constellations in question need only be
wow this guy is really quite ignorant. HOW can somone analyze the video so thoroughly and then claim to reach 'a logical solution'? Next you are going to come up with a 'proof of santa' video and show various images since 1954 proving the jolly fat man infact exists... Then you ask people to open their eyes? To what?!?! A book that says we are created, the son of god comes to little old earth, a guy can part seas because he is 'chosen' and snakes talk?
OMG you're using stellarium software just like that "nowheretorun" guy....this video stinks and is so un origional.....i thought that this was going to be a scholarly rebuttal. The information taken from zeitgeist was taken from Jordan Maxwell's "the naked truth" so try rebutting that!
Try getting your head out of that delusional bubble you are living in. Jordan Maxwell works for the Lucis Trust, which is a satanist organisation and is part of the NWO.
I can't imagine how long this must have taken you, assembling all these bits of fact and trivia to make this rebuttal, but it's well appreciated. Thank you.
DOROTHY MURDOCK, the non-scholar who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of methane gas. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10. UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT FACTS BUT PREFER LIES!
Anti spiritual or anti religious? I think you confuse the two. After 12 years of religious brainwashing bullshit, I see truth in science & lies in all religion. Religion equals slavery perpetuated by men seeking to control you. I choose to be free from religion. I have faith in myself and occasionally my fellow man. Do I have faith in your so called god, no thanks I'll pass.
both sides have interests in deceiving people. massey has written 3 huge books on the subject and this guy says "we've already dealt with massey". lol in a few minutes noway has he dealt with the thousands of assertions massey has made. this guy can cast doubt on a couple points in a retarded movie not thousands of assertions and parallels? simple fact there's no rock hard evidence. everything may be coincidence... but how much coincidence do you need to have reasonable doubt? read massey.
I find it fascinating that your 3 part rebuttal got over 1400 views for part one with part 2 getting 429 and part 3 with only 233 views! Maybe you needed moore of a cartoon approach? Obviously there was too much reality for most people and they couldn't finish the series. Conspiracy theorists just don't like dealing with facts, do they?
Well done Aldous - propaganda in any format or ideology is wrought with the stink of an agenda. Thanks for taking a subjective look so everyone can make their own informed decision.
I am very much an agnostic and a skeptic of religion, but to use such faulty evidence to justify said skepticism only helps the Christians. I agree that Christianity is pretty much a mechanism of social control, but hell! Maybe society really needs to be controlled.
your conclusions are hardly logical.
chica476 6 months ago
@AldousFinch you are wrong about orions belt vanishing like that, is your map corresponded to the area of Jerusalem?? because thats not what happens, the constellations are clearly visible in the evening approx yr 0. also the elevation changes on differnt days, its not actually the same. 3 kings are very much in popular christian belief, the stars are called KINGS in some, and have every bit of actual relevance to ASTRO-THEOLOGISM. Thats the real point. You cant debunk a debunk like that.
cycophile 7 months ago
its nazi socialist canada, AND evil vancouver,what do you expect. alberta bromfman
western canada. getting closer.
noodlesmealey 1 year ago
Wait, how come every refutiation I see is just about the religious critisizm that zeitgeist makes? We don't care what religious institution you are into. All we care about is what part of your religion do you actually use? What reciprocates into positive actions that helps people? The whole, "I believe in jesus and I'm save and you're going to hell" is nothing but verbal masturbation and does NOTHING for our current state. Present soloutions. Thats all the movement has done, not you.
evilnomad111 1 year ago
So this "rebuttal" is just defending of christianity. Well, at least it was constructive... still, it doesn't make me want to start believing any old books.
Anonymous247n 1 year ago
Well done!
dj7remy 1 year ago
Jesus can suck my cock
someoneupload 1 year ago
lol silly u man
doisdoisum 1 year ago
what an idiot... read the bible lol
Ervis1988 1 year ago
They had just posted the Zeitgeist (full video) on YouTube. You should post this as a video response.
MrZetterlund777 1 year ago
Why defend yourselves? Who cares about Zeitgeist being right or wrong. Just turn off your TV, close your bible and go out in nature... now sit down, look around you and meditate on our way of living. Can we keep living like this? Is it sustainable for our planet? Are we globally happy? Is everyone fed and free?
Zeitgeist is about constructing a better world. The Venus Project is one proposed solution. Its time we sit down together and discuss solutions, not problems or whose fault it is... love
jplafortune 2 years ago 2
@jplafortune
if we start to make a better world based on lies , we will not make a better world , we will make hell.
niinja2 1 year ago
visible from Egypt, say. The myth can then develop, become independent of the astrology, and migrate or become merged with early Christianity.
I'm a little disappointed (though not necessarily surprised) that the whole astrology stuff doesn't necessarily work, I thought it was kinda beautiful.
1morehuman 2 years ago
Hi- thanks for this video it's really good. I have to say the astrotheological stuff is what fascinated me most about Zeitgeist- I'm an agnostic, btw.
Your points are good, however, I think that to analyse the astrology from the perspective of Jerusalem may miss the point. It rebutts the claims of Zeitgiest, but if the Christian mythology is based on earlier pagan theology (eg Osiris, Mithras), and THAT theology has an astrological basis, then the constellations in question need only be
1morehuman 2 years ago
Nice job, AldousFinch !
Jer0mmel 2 years ago
What about the Dinasours?
marko2028 2 years ago
religion makes people crazy. the end of story.
mikhasya1976 2 years ago
I agree, which is why I'm simply a believer in Jesus Christ.
N0L0ngerBlind 2 years ago
dude learn how to speak english. I can't understand what you're saying
sunnyspringday111 2 years ago
wow this guy is really quite ignorant. HOW can somone analyze the video so thoroughly and then claim to reach 'a logical solution'? Next you are going to come up with a 'proof of santa' video and show various images since 1954 proving the jolly fat man infact exists... Then you ask people to open their eyes? To what?!?! A book that says we are created, the son of god comes to little old earth, a guy can part seas because he is 'chosen' and snakes talk?
WAKE UP!!!!
zysis 3 years ago
OMG you're using stellarium software just like that "nowheretorun" guy....this video stinks and is so un origional.....i thought that this was going to be a scholarly rebuttal. The information taken from zeitgeist was taken from Jordan Maxwell's "the naked truth" so try rebutting that!
macarajunia 3 years ago
Try getting your head out of that delusional bubble you are living in. Jordan Maxwell works for the Lucis Trust, which is a satanist organisation and is part of the NWO.
Randomicity912 2 years ago
Only ignorant dreamers take Maxwell serious.
Jer0mmel 2 years ago
I can't imagine how long this must have taken you, assembling all these bits of fact and trivia to make this rebuttal, but it's well appreciated. Thank you.
spinhook888 3 years ago 4
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DOROTHY MURDOCK, the non-scholar who wrote The Christ Conspiracy and Suns of God, has been proven conclusively to be full of methane gas. Watch ZEITGEIST CHALLENGE EXPOSES ACHARYA S 1-3, ZEIGEIST EXPOSED 1-8, THE EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS 1-4, ZEITGEIST REBUTTTAL parts 1-3. ZEITGEIST REFUTED 1-10. UNLESS YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT FACTS BUT PREFER LIES!
MagusSolitudo 3 years ago
Control my thinking? I don't think so.
Anti spiritual or anti religious? I think you confuse the two. After 12 years of religious brainwashing bullshit, I see truth in science & lies in all religion. Religion equals slavery perpetuated by men seeking to control you. I choose to be free from religion. I have faith in myself and occasionally my fellow man. Do I have faith in your so called god, no thanks I'll pass.
garysephel 3 years ago
both sides have interests in deceiving people. massey has written 3 huge books on the subject and this guy says "we've already dealt with massey". lol in a few minutes noway has he dealt with the thousands of assertions massey has made. this guy can cast doubt on a couple points in a retarded movie not thousands of assertions and parallels? simple fact there's no rock hard evidence. everything may be coincidence... but how much coincidence do you need to have reasonable doubt? read massey.
r04chf4c3 3 years ago
I find it fascinating that your 3 part rebuttal got over 1400 views for part one with part 2 getting 429 and part 3 with only 233 views! Maybe you needed moore of a cartoon approach? Obviously there was too much reality for most people and they couldn't finish the series. Conspiracy theorists just don't like dealing with facts, do they?
theriffer 3 years ago
Very nicely done.
mistertakeda 3 years ago 6
Well done Aldous - propaganda in any format or ideology is wrought with the stink of an agenda. Thanks for taking a subjective look so everyone can make their own informed decision.
itsallgoodmyfriend 3 years ago 2
I am very much an agnostic and a skeptic of religion, but to use such faulty evidence to justify said skepticism only helps the Christians. I agree that Christianity is pretty much a mechanism of social control, but hell! Maybe society really needs to be controlled.
grungefreak10 3 years ago 3