Psychology of Belief, Part 5: Compliance Techniques

[philopolymath]

Excellent illumination of psychopathic control mechanisms..

But it is equally applicable to theist and non-theists alike and is NO aid in favor or against evidence of God..

It would APPEAR you are deceptive or ignorantly trying to link them in YOUR FAVOR?

Right AFTER teaching us the VERY DANGER of said deception..

Wow you got Grosso Cahones Amigo!

[EarlRegent]

This is disgusting; I mean calling the guy a Liar, thief, murderer etc.. I am not sure if most religious people even support this kind of behaviour.

[William00048]

You believe in Geezeus. Yes? You want to follow his teachings. Yes? Sure you do so why to you live in a massive house and live a very wealthy lifestyle when Geezeus says you should live in poverty. Ray Comfort. You're a cock.

[gethsoftware]

@William00048 not only that. but if jesus was nazaret like the bible claim he whuld have no hair or facial hair and he whuld have not used alcohol and whuld have avoided all earthly desires. so yeah. founder of christianity was hypocrit and ass.

[IVscythia]

Q:What do you call someone who tells lies?

A: Ray Comfort

[JusticeIsWhere]

Being led of the Bully-Spirit is the first step in buying the zeal estate in heaven? Thank you for the information.

[xSilverPhinxx]

I think this is rather interesting especially since rather recently I would allow (even though I knew) a woman of dubious character intrude on my stuff without my consent because I felt indebted to her. Things such as hacking into my library account to more...criminal stuff.

The same woman who would later keep urging that I continued to comply so that she could set me up. Very odd.

I'm still hoping to eventually get a profile on this woman...

[lazyperfectionist1]

Let me get this straight, Ray. One person curses at you because you cut him off in traffic. Another sneaks up behind you and plunges a knife into your back. You're telling me that the one is no better or worse than the other?

[lazyperfectionist1]

"Being angry" is the same thing as "being a murderer at heart?" What does that make God?

"Have you kept the Ten Commandments?"

Well no. Many times, I have coveted my neighbor's wife, my neighbor's job, my neighbor and her ass, I have not once kept the feast of weeks, and dangit, I just can't seem to stop boiling those goats in their mother's milk.

[xRocketNumber9x]

@lazyperfectionist1 Hey, no fair! Those are the actual 10 commandments, no one follows those :P

(thank god..... I don't think I could give up my boiled goats, or my first-fruits)

[lilimax555]

All five parts interesting and informative,also ......possibly useful to my own evil ends....! ! ah oh !

[COEXISTential]

Hi there, can I buy you a drink?

Sure.

Can I take you back to my place and shag you senseless?

Hmmm

[BigFatHeretic]

Well, I guess I have committed "murder in my heart" because I hate pedophiles who molest little children, I hate rapists and bullies, so I must have murdered a few million people "in my heart" because I hate them. I only wish that it were an actual physical killing of these low-life scum-bags. And if I'm going to Hell because I hate scum-bags, then I don't want to be in heaven with Christian pedophiles and Christian wife beating rapists! I would rather go to Hell with a clear conscience!

[LordHines420]

people arent suckers..... theyre dumb fucks.

[KodierungHerz]

really? whoa..

[squizill]

"Are you a murderer at heart?" lol priceless!!!

[smarthandsomeguy]

Excellent series! Subbed!

Also, since you have so many Carl Sagan quotes: A happy Carl Sagan day to everyone! ;-)

[STFUNOWlol]

This is an amazing series. Can't believe it has so few views.

[ministeroftuba]

Are these studies publicly available? I'm highly interested in social psychology

[AntiCitizenX]

@ministeroftuba

If you have access to a good library, then yes you should be able to access them.

[jasonx1972]

@ministeroftuba Buy the Robert Cialdini book "Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion”. All the examples given in this video were taken from that book.

[PalulukanMakto]

@ministeroftuba Google 'PubMed' - it's a great resource.

[ColdSHeep]

I don't need the source anymore, sorry. I did not see the references at the end of the video!

[ColdSHeep]

Can you give a source for the "foot-in-the-door" experiment? I may need to use that for other arguments I am trying to make about security compliance in airports and other things.

[charkopolis]

@ColdSHeep In the vid @ 8:06, top reference

[Snipe4261]

I want a cookie now . . .

[HebaruSan]

For the second round of the soap/inventory experiment, did they only call the people who were already innately compliant enough the first time around to answer the questions? If so, isn't that a selection bias? I'd say No to both, but my second No would be excluded from the second sample. Maybe that exclusion explains where some of the additional 30.6% comes from?

[AntiCitizenX]

@HebaruSan

I believe they actually called everyone, including those who hung up on them the first time around.

[Keitaro2011]

@HebaruSan You forget that there's a control group as well.

[HybridD91]

Ask me about the Ten Commandments, I will respond, "Which ones?". There are two sets, Exodus 20, the famous ones and Exodus 34, the bat shit crazy ones if you read em.

[YiffMeImFurry]

Do psychology students really all use Macs?  That picture freaks me out.

[Kakhuset]

Great video!!

[9noitulover]

lol, with these techniques you double your chance of suckering them in with just preconditioning.

[El3ctricPenguin]

Wow, this video is awesome, it didn't get any thumbs down. let's try to keep it that way.

[MindCBase]

Great way of presenting the principles of deception.

[PookySan1]

much props for vids like this....informative, concise, and sources are cited as usual.....i wish this shit was taught in high school

[Antixianos]

As always, your videos are a joy to watch and think about. Like many others before me have said, the psychological approach you take against religious belief, rather than the biological or the philosophical approaches that many other take, are refreshing. Keep up the good work.

[AntiCitizenX]

@Antixianos

Thank you for the kind feedback. And thank you to everyone else who posted as well. I am very glad that you all enjoy the videos. There are still more in the queue that I think you will really enjoy, so be sure to stay tuned! :D

[supermanlypunch]

6:31 I guess that makes me a mass murderer cause I hate the ones who thought up that ad with the heat of sun's core.

[Otokogoroshi]

If someone came up to me and tried that shit I would laugh in their face. Wonderful video.

[AntiCitizenX]

@Otokogoroshi

Sometimes I wonder how much these videos are edited. That is, how many people shot down Ray in a fit of laughter and ridicule before he finally stumbled into that one poor sap who was willing to listen?

[Otokogoroshi]

@AntiCitizenX Well people are generally very amiable and friendly folks very willing to listen to even the most insane prattle especially when you shove a camera in their face. So I imagine yes it is heavily edited but more because people don't give the proper responses not laughed at them *sigh*

[janeyanna]

Oh, so THAT's why I have heart problems? The tiny people that I murdered in my heart are clogging my arteries with their tiny dead rotting bodies! Well, thanks for that diagnosis Dr. Comfort, I'll have a tiny dead people-ectomy right away!

[do0me0nice]

5* ??? Is a Like the same thing?

[honeylicious13]

If "murder in your heart" was actually effective, Ray Comfort would have croaked years ago.

[Raptor302]

great vid, 5 stars!

...err, damnit youtube....

[boydslittlefactory]

I saw these techniques effectively used on a regular basis in the mormon church.  It is truly maddening!

[Manaborn619]

Haha! From the first experiment you mentioned, I was thinking "SALES TECHNIQUES!!!" Having worked in that line of work, I recognized all of them. Felt a little nostalgic going through them all again actually.

[ricardas83]

I love experiments. THey show that we are such idiots... amazing.

[Deathinmusic]

Great video in a great series. This is good information for everyone to understand.

[CrazyWoWGamer]

wow, yet another amazing video. keep up the good work =)

[AntiCitizenX]

The "milk before meat" doctrine is classic low-balling.

[billygundum]

best yet

[HAL9000unit]

The "Door-in-the-face technique" describes what he did better.

"Will you donate $1000 to our organization? [Response is no].

Oh. Well could you donate $10? [...I guess]''

So, "Have you murdered someone?" [no] "............in your heart?" [...sure]

[AntiCitizenX]

Kudos to you for catching this. I was actually a bit torn over this idea for a while. We could probably debate for an hour over whether it was foot-in-the-door or door-in-the-face. However, I decided to lean more with FITD since he asks lots of little questions to lead up to the big one. This is also how all his other commandments tend to go as well.

"Have you ever told a lie?"

"Yes."

"So you're a liar."

Not really DITF here. However, check the fourth reference at the end anyway :)

[AntiCitizenX]

I inserted an edit into the video description to talk about DITF and address your comment. I think you are right, in that there are definitely some hints DITF in Ray's questions as well.

[honeylicious13]

@AntiCitizenX Maybe your next video should specifically address Door in the Face so we can all learn about that too.

[defect530]

i love this stuff

is this plain psychology or does it have a different name?

[AntiCitizenX]

@defect530

"Social Psychology" is the specific field, which is a subset of regular psychology.

[defect530]

Thanks!

[TheAtheistPaladin]

3:53

Holy crap that is a lot of Mac books!

[aPenguin09]

@ 4:09

Hit the nail on the head there! My physics class is at 8 and I have a hard time going already.... Seven in the morning shouldn't even exist anymore!

[FairCogent]

Ever helped someone who was hurt or sick? Congratulations, you're a doctor.

Ever given help when others were in need?

Congratulations, you're a philanthropist.

Ever comforted someone who was upset?

Congratulations, you're a great friend.

So by your confession you're caring individual who heals the sick and puts others first. Feel better now, Ray?

[MagnusIan]

I can't stand Ray Cumfart. Hey Ray, ever under-tipped a waitress even once? Then you're a horrible cheapskate! How do ya like them apples?!

[JonathanClement140]

Can't really use that since he himself would readily admit to it.

[thruthem]

Devastating exposé!

[discussislam]

Excellent!

[Akumeitakai]

Further proof of these facts can be found in Dan Arielys book, Predictably Irrational.  It's a fantastic read!

[Craigipedia]

AntiCitizen, I love this shit... you kick ass

[AntiCitizenX]

@Craigipedia

Thank you for the complements. One other thing I would like some feedback on is if my voice sounds less annoying in this one. I used to bark into the mic from two feet away, which tended to sound aggravating and condescending. This time I just talked into it from about 4 inches.

[Craigipedia]

@AntiCitizenX

your voice is sweet nectar to the ears of the enlightened... that better?

[AntiCitizenX]

LOL... thanks! :D

[honeylicious13]

@AntiCitizenX your voice gets me wet.

[DontBendOverForAllah]

Fantastic work, great research properly referenced - this should be taught in schools.

[gir908922]

I agree with you about that.  It would certainly help bring up more children to think for themselves and they can become adults, who have better developed minds by the time they go out into the real world.

[AntiCitizenX]

@DontBendOverForAllah

It actually is taught in schools. Unfortunately, the only "schools" that teach it are college-level psychology departments. I personally got halfway through a technical MS degree before even causally stumbling into this stuff. So I guess YouTube will have to do for now :(

[mbnp1701]

excellent video!

5'd and fav'd.

[TheRichDarkEarth]

Great series!

[RevolutionarySpectre]

I have an issue with these experiments. You don't reveal what percentage of people accept the first, more minor request.

Without this information the increased percentage relative to the control can simply be explained by the fact that the sample was selected. (Those willing to answer a few questions on the phone are more willing to consent to the intrusion, people who wouldn't even agree to the phone survey would never consent to the search.)

[Morkindie]

@RevolutionarySpectre

it doesn't matter what kind of people they surveyed.

even if the respondents were all gullible people. The experiment shows that they became more compliant.

It doesn't matter how willing they were. What is important to note is that they became more willing.

[RevolutionarySpectre]

@Morkindie You misunderstand my point.

The second part of each experiment asked only people who were willing to consent to the phone thing to whether they would consent to the search. Whereas the control asked an unbiased sample (a mix of those who would and would not consent to the lesser phone survey) whether they would consent to the search.

[RevolutionarySpectre]

@Morkindie (cont)

As such it is impossible to know how much was the result of pre-conditioning (as opposed to selection bias) without knowing the percentage of people who consented to the phone survey.

[AntiCitizenX]

@RevolutionarySpectre

A fair objection. Here is what the paper says:

"In all of these two-contact conditions some subjects did not agree to the requests or even hung up before the requests were made. Every subject who answered the phone was included in the analysis of the results and was contacted for the second request regardless of her extent of cooperativeness."

[ProjectPaladin]

one has to grant the evangelicals the following:

They almost perfected their pressure sales technique and are a very successful MLM-system... However, if one thinks about the techniques used and recognises them, when applied, they are easily to rebutt...

[Lovingdoubt]

Great video and extremely true! Amazing... and sad. People need to know these sorts of things about their own weaknesses to make better decisions in life. So great job! :)

[alexkidd3d]

very powerful series. 5 stars

[fudgeman362]

Great, as usual!

[jamminjago]

Nice, it's been too long

[CathySander]

And this is why I treat religious organisations as if they were businesses: they're selling something, but does it deliver on that promise?

[TheRooDog123]

fcking awesome vid man. keep it up

[gpdl00355]

Always enjoyable to be educated in the way the human mind works. Thanks :)

[chalkers]

It's like getting a commitment for baptism before dropping the bomb of WoW, Tithing and Chastity.

[kalamain]

One thing you can't say about Ray Comfort is that he is thick. He is not stupid at all. he knows exactly what he is doing and he knows exactly what he needs to do to get what he wants.

You can call him many things. But stupid isn't one of them.

Good to see you back ACX!

[Aaberg123]

@kalamain

Well, it's either retarded or clever. He really leaves little room for any middle-ground.

I think he's one of those theologians, who have once believed, but seeing how his income is tied to said belief, still happily carries on telling lies to children.

Kurt, however, I think is genuinely stupid, though it's still up for debate.

[nedbeaty72]

@kalamain First I'd call him willfuly ignorant, and then I'd call him a fucking douche bag.

[kalamain]

@nedbeaty72 Can't argue with that!!!

[mrx0066600]

that murder in your heart line is the biggest pile of bullshit!

If he'd have said that to me I'd have told him to fuck off.

[onlyAerik]

Men typically use the exact same techniques to either excuse rapists who rape dates/girlfriends/wives , or if they are the rapist, to enact that rape.

[333holly333]

Heh...I hate those infomercials where they yell "But wait! There's more! If you call in the next five minutes you'll receive this FREE bonus!"

I always think, 'but I don't want any of that crap'. o.O

Anyway great video! I love this series.

[BuBBaGump014]

Good to see you back AntiCitizenX. Keep the videos coming.

[Sarge084]

If Ray Comfort wasn't selling god he would be selling pre-owned cars or timeshare. If he'd been born 100 years earlier he would have been selling snake oil.