@YouCantKillLove It seems charlie is being heavily influenced by right wing so called libertarians. Note also his thinly veiled attacks on the "poor and lazy". Textbook Ayn Rand survival of the fittest, I'm all right jack, kill the poor nonsense.
I was never into all that inside job stuff.But I notice that you are now starting on the Unions.As if the Thatcherite Regime hasn't done enough already and now you want to stick the knife in too. 26th March 2011, you didn't mind tagging along on that Union event trying to call it an "insurrection".
I don't support the low ad hominem arguments and insults from people here, and I would hate to be associated with people who are behaving like that. It's childish, counterproductive, and actually, cruel. But I feel the need to express to Charlie, that it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking that, if someone is very intelligent, as Stefan is, that they are right. What seems to have seduced a lot of young people into the cult of libertarianism, or Randianism, is the moralising of the ego...
Moralising egotistic behaviour and desires is highly dangerous, and it's precisely what capitalism is about. Except, capitalism *naturalises* greed and selfishness. It takes away the responsibility Randianism goes a step further and calls egotistic behaviour moral.
Also, Stefan expresses a lot of values that seem very intuitive to the ex-anarchist. But the conclusion is very different. It's never cogently expressed why a free-market with no government would be any better for the world and...
equality, than the current system, which is also a free-market economy (almost globally) that pulls the strings of middlemen, puppet governments. It's corporations that rule the world, much more than government or individual leaders. I thought Charlie would now that
This system is NOT a free market. In a free market, there are NO subsidies, there's NO lobbying for laws to the benefit of big business, and most of all, incompetent assholes like the big banks get absolutely NO taxpayer funded bailouts. You do well, you get rewarded. You fail, you eat the losses and try to learn from your mistakes.
Rational self-interest is not the same as greed and selfishness. It is in everyone's rational self interest, for example, to act in good faith when doing business, not cheating the customer. It tends to be statist corporate fatcats, their lobbyists, politicians and presstitutes who exhibit the greed and selfishness. They're all out of good will, as both the Tea Party and the Occupy movement demonstrate.
@Alastrian83 I understand your sentiment, but what were these fatcats and corrupt politicians before they gained the power that gave them the freedoms they now abuse? Although, there's a concentration of sociopaths and pyschopaths in those higher echelons, a lot of them behaved like normal people before they gained those excessive freedoms. We differ in the amount of trust we place in humanity at large. It's not that I don't think we can have a good, free society, I just don't believe that the..
... libertarian model is fit for the job. It doesn't take into account all the pitfalls involved with a society of humans and the way humans can exploit and abuse each other.
@Pikukat If a human "abuses" another by causing loss of life, liberty, or property then that's where the law comes in. Libertarians don't advocate a lawless society; just a society in which government is small, plays a limited role in people's lives, does not interfere with the free market, and protects the freedom and liberty of the individual.
How do you know that libertarianism isn't fit for the job? When has it EVER been tried? Just so you know, neocons like Reagan and Bush, and neo-liberals like Thatcher are not examples of libertarianism. What they would call 'deregulation' is really just regulation in favour of big business, at the expense of everyone else. A libertarian society is where NOBODY gets special privilege, subsidies or laws passed in their favour to the detriment of their opponents and competitors.
Normal people don't just suddenly become sociopaths. Maybe the fatcats were better at hiding their sociopathy before they gain command over the military and the police. They are often really good at hiding their true nature, and sadly, even when their illness becomes glaringly obvious, a lot of people still won't accept that truth.
I am subscribing again. I'd like you to become an Austrian-libertarian anarchist now and leave all of that socialism behind you. I am very pleased with you now.
@lucretiuscaro If they asked you what about freeriders and not paying for tax, you need to answer that Austrian economics shows how the price discovery mechanism creates emergent orders in society and that no exernal force is required to have people satisfy their needs.
What you have is still better than what is in the U.S. Just wait until you prisons are privatized. Some times the govt should run things, otherwise they get abused even more than the govt could dream of.
According to the lastest data (Sept 2011) the 10 richest americans have a combined income of $291 billion. Thats the point the Occupy movement was making - a distinctly anti capitalist one. The state and its apparatus is build and used to protect the interests of the ruling class - in order to talk about smashing the state you have to decide who's side you're on. Put down Ayn Rand and read a little wider
@northerninertia Obviously the state exists to serve the ruling class, and in doing so the state opposes capitalism. Capitalism is the right to keep what you earn and do with it what you will; what exists in the west now is corporatism, a quasi-capitalist regime designed to protect corporatists from competition. The state must be smashed so that capitalism can be open to all people, so that we can find the best ways to serve one another's interests in a voluntary manner.
Absolutely correct. I'd go further by saying that 'quasi-capitalism' and 'corporatism' are just nice ways of saying 'soft fascism'. Opponents of the 'elite' aren't being herded into deathcamps, but there is that same unholy marriage of corporation and state.
There are 29 million people in the UK workforce and 6 million in the public sector - that includes teachers, nurses and doctors. What figure would you put on the number of lazy Nurses who dont deserve a pension? Everyone that lives in this society deserves a home, enough food and clothing and to spend their last years being able to pay the heating bill. According to research around 4,000 old people (pensioners) die of the cold every year in the UK.
You cannot have individual freedom & capitalism. Individual freedom within free market capitalism is an illusion. All long as there is capitalism, you will have poverty, exploitation of people and planet. The solution to the tyranny of the state is one that fights for a society - from below - that is based on human need. Some of your arguments on unions and pension are just bdly researched and badly thought through.
@northerninertia And yet capitalism is the only system we have to quench human need, that's why the greatest explosion of wealth and material success has occurred in capitalist countries during times when the market is relatively free, and why attempts to prevent capitalism have always resulted in the greatest depths of tyranny and poverty known to man. You can't prohibit capitalism without prohibiting both liberty and basic survival.
Your Your arguments shift from left to right in the blink of an eye. You now seem to be arguing an essentially anarcho-capitalist position. Capitalism - with or without a state - is an inherently exploitative system.
Then its a dangerously utopian delusion. Human nature is NOT collectivist. Without a powerful central authority, how do you expect everyone in society to lay themselves upon the altar of self sacrifice for the collective?
oh NO! Charlie has gone anarcho capitalist!! the present money is fake, FAKE!! if you talk about pensions and such forth please make it clear that a 'free market' means people can use whatever the heck they want for money & aren't restrained to using the toilet paper printed by government.
other than that, great video! but we can't get bogged down in the money bullshit. the only 'currency' that exists is the kind that's constantly changing... Mumma nature is the only lender and her interest is in keeping us alive and thriving.
Just been watching Stefan Molyneux. He believes that the poor should not be given welfare as it rewards bad behaviour.The British refused to give the Irish aid during the potato famine for the same reason.A social security system,trade unions and free healthcare were acheived through the blood and toil of our forefathers,we have already lost free university education,decent public housing and the sick and weak are now villified and treated like dirt.
@foofkanon The point of opposing welfare is that the welfare system is a poverty trap: by rewarding bad behaviour, you encourage people to remain in poverty. It's not the same thing as emergency aid. "Free" healthcare? You pay for the NHS twice over: once in tax extortion, and again in the lost opportunities denied to us by the prohibitions against true healthcare competition. If you care about the sick and weak, you should embrace the free market.
@foofkanon What "policies"? I didn't advocate any policies, I just pointed out the truth behind the welfare system: it's a poverty trap designed to keep poor people poor. Go read some Walter Williams articles and see. I also pointed out the hidden costs of the NHS: not only do we pay a ridiculous price in taxes, we pay far more in lost opportunities. Healthcare would be of far superior quality and far lower cost if we had market competition, meaning a better standard of life for all.
@cveitch ; Those " people who work for the government " also work for the people ...they are ; Doctors , Nurses , surgeons , care workers , teachers , bin men , etc ... and im one of them ..Hurrah for public sector workers ...and the provision of public services . Talking about lazy people who dont deserve a pension , we should include you in that charlie , taking drugs and uploading daft little vids to youtube isnt much of a contribution to society now is it kiddo ? : )
@holographicsentience So long as Charlie gets his money from people who voluntary pay him, rather than having it stolen from strangers and handed to him, he's infinitely more productive than the parasitical 'public sector'. How can something be a "service" when you're arbitrarily forced to pay for it and then can only access it according to the whim of bureaucrats? You are ultimately a detriment to society, when all the hidden costs are tallied up.
blaming SATAN is ignorance manifest Charlie, HOW many times do U need telling?
TRY viewing everything from another perspective, one where EVERYTHING has CHANGED and SO there is no need to bleat on about HOW past injustices prevent things from moving forward.
the world where ALL LIFE can LIVE with DIGNITY EQUALLY is already HERE, always was.
lets consider ALL LIFE in everything we say think and do, stop brining the past into the present and therefore THE FUTURE and continually reminding ourselves
18 million people work for the government ? You are not even close (even your estimate of the UK population is out by almost 10 million).
One fifth of the UK labour market (29.1m) is around 5.8m.
Typically your video is littered with inacuracies and overly reductionist thinking, the idea that the banks were saved to keep people from being homeowners is just another silly conspiracy theory.
@Baptisteclinton : that was before charlie became a right wing capitalist droid of the Rand persuasion , give him a week and he will announce something thats the complete opposite ... : )
I think Charlie is simply unable or unwilling to understand complex 'mechanical' relationships between ideas, so you will see him march with the students demanding the state fund education through coercive taxation one day and the next day decry taxation, the state and coercion.
So now we see Charlie, who excitedly joined the throng at the recent TUC march, standing outside Unison HQ decrying unionism.
@BaptisteClinton ; Lol , its a case of ..who will do charlies thinking for him this week ? Well , this week its Rand and Molyneux ...next week ..who knows : )
@BaptisteClinton ; " I think Charlie is simply unable or unwilling to understand complex 'mechanical' relationships between ideas, so you will see him march with the students demanding the state fund education through coercive taxation one day and the next day decry taxation, the state and coercion."
At some stage , you have to say that no adult is THAT thick , and therefore he must be doing this on purpose . Christ a 10 year old could see the contradictions : )
To buy groceries you would earn money in the private sector or the public sector - and then buy those groceries in the private sector.
Charlie has said the private sector should play no part in health or education, nor does he think taxation by the state should fund health or education - so obviously he's unlikely to think health & education should be funded the same way grocery purchases are.
@fridaymondaytwenty Well I am glad you have the honesty to admit what right-libertarianism is all about. What exactly is a go-getter..? A person who makes vast amounts of profit raping the earth and it's reasources? Or a person who gives it all up to fight against corruption and injustice..? Unions have done more for the freedom and liberty of the masses in this country than anyone... they made the state listen to the people and if that is to happen again they will be a major part in it.
@MetaReaLizard Actually it's thanks to the unions that prohibitions like the minimum wage keeps so many people out of work. They demand unskilled workers like myself are prohibited from working for less than the arbitrary "minimum" because it gives skilled whites a monopoly on access to the labour market, and keeps non-whites out of work. Far from enable "freedom and liberty" they've shackled us all to the state's anti-liberty agenda. The union is the enemy of the working man.
@BelleAndTheBoy You are talking in completely Americanised terms... frankly "non-whites out of work?" is not only a divisory perspective it's also completely non-sensical in regard to the UK economy. The minimum wage is there to prevent exploitation, it is there to prevent people paying less than what is needed to live with basic degrees of dignity. If the freemarket is so wonderfully self-correcting, it shouldn't be a problem that an employer would seek to pay less than minimum wage.
@MetaReaLizard It ISN'T a problem that an employer would seek to pay less than minimum wage, the law didn't come about to fulfil a need but rather to defend white patriarchy. You want to tell me that keeping non-whites out of work isn't a UK problem after the 2011 London riots? 48% of black Brits are unemployed, compared to 31% of Asians and 20% of whites. The free market wants to employ anyone who can do the job, regardless of colour. The minimum wage is a subsidy for biggotry.
@BelleAndTheBoy Of course it is a problem because they people getting paid can't feed and house their families. What you are talking about is taking desperate, powerless people and forcing them to work for far less than is reasonable because they have no choice. We had it in the UK that is why the Tolpuddle martyrs formed the first unions and it led to a struggle and eventually even the political representation of the working class... that's men, women, young, old, black, brown and white!
@BelleAndTheBoy As I said if the freemarket worked then wages would be above what people needed to survive so a freemarket capitalist should have no concern with minimum wages. Dude the UK does not think in terms of whites and non-whites... well apart from the extreme right. The unions fight for equality for everyone and against war... the mentality of division is what keeps us easy to rule over. This country will not be dragged back into racial hatred by the right i'll assure you of that!
@Laoch111 Che ran a death camp where he executed dissenters, artists, intellectuals and homosexuals. His definition of "struggle" was torturing and murdering innocent people in support of his tyrannical despot friends.
So, if you win the lottery, isn't that freedom? any tax, mortgage anything the government wants from you, you'd be able to pay no problem what so ever, you wouldn't in theory even have to work or worry about a pension. So living the life you want to live = Lottery?
Good word Charlie! You seem to be struggling a bit with some new information, but hats off for giving it a go! Thank you for pointing out the difference between the type of current "Capitalism" that's more akin to fascist/corporatism, and actual Capitalism which is the voluntary exchange between human beings unfettered by governments. You seem like a good person, and we need more like you. Cheers and support!
ohhhhh were allowed to comment on this video ?? but not inside job, BBC video??. Most comments are getting to Charlie. BTW, nice mushroom trip you had in amsterdam!!
What an moron. I didn't support the bailout but to say it's communism or socialism is borderline retarded. Stop throwing around words you don;t understand , its embarrassing. You really must have made an effort to pay attention to the news over the last few years to think anything resembling free market capitalism is a good thing
@killthebadguy What an moron? Hahaha. Sorry, the economic failures have been entirely at government fault. You must not really understand the situation to think freedom caused your money to lose value and be robbed from you.
@killthebadguy Yeah, if you spent a lot of time mindlessly absorbing mainstream news broadcasts you'd definitely come away with the idea that free market capitalism is a bad thing. But that's propaganda for you.
@killthebadguy What? Rubbish. I agree that calling this and that socialist just to gain an advantage in an argument is retarded, right. But. Free market not a good thing? Why someone needs to be punished for working hard and be forced to give money to both rich and poor that don't work or are happy with a life of a drone. People need to learn: make effort to earn it not because you simply ARE. The evil is not on wall street & others coz there is work, its in the laws that allow exploitation.
LOVE it brother. One question though. Wouldnt it be better for people to pay all that stuff off IE Mortgage and CC versus not paying them? Then they might be home less and have worse probelms ;) Free thinking is great but we want to be smart free thinkers as well ;) Get out of debt and out of the system as much as possible is what I would be teaching or saying. I love what you do brother. I would have to consider you a humanitarian. ;)
theres more than 20% vat on every product, work it out charlie. Farmer sells his product, and gets vat taken on his price, buyer gets vat taken, shops they sell it to get vat on it, and whoever buys it gets vat on it,thats 4x 20% vat on every product, fooking organised crims every govt
Great video Charlie! You should check out Milton Freidman's book 'Capitalism and Freedom' and also Ludwig von Mises' 'The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality'. Also Murray Rothbard and some of the other great Austrian economists.
The state is the only thing keeping Capitalism standing. Without the state we will see the people who have under no choice of their own been born into a poor area stay the slave class and the middle and upper class staying where they are.
I'm truly impressed how eloquent you are. Even in the face of the ignorance of slave minded police. Thank you for teaching us Americans true courage to fight for liberty.
@23lFrench I never had anyone selling me anything put a gun to my head to make me purchase their goods or services. Now the government on the other hand does this to me multiple times per day throughout my entire life. Governments have a monopoly on force. The government is not your friend, it is your enemy and the source of all tyranny in modern times. I don't want majority rule or democracy. That is mob rule. I want the individual to rule himself. I want freedom.
@hooverdog1957 I am not a fan of Capitalism nor the Government. Capitalism is slavery from the man with nothing to the man with every thing. I should have the freedom to not be forced to work in a hierarchical private tyranny where I have no power over what the business does, I merely take orders from above and accept their authority. Doesn't equate to what freedom means to me I am afraid but you know... that is just like... my opinion.
I expect north americans to fall for Stefan Molyneux for they are as brainwashed as North Koreans.However to see this evil selfish creed over here and influencing young people like Charlie and his mates is very worrying. That introduction of deserving and undeserving was straight out of the right wing of the Tory party. This anti union, anti social safety net, crap is beyond despicable.
Come on Charlie UNISON fights for the little guy the support assistants, bin men and lollipop ladies not soldiers or bankers. I myself am now opting out of pensions as this ponzi scheme is going to collapse as the the public sector starts getting squeezed there will not be enough people going in to the scheme to pay off the people leaving. Also UNISON is fighting the government policy of stealing the pension fund from all the workers and the of raising the contributions and the retirement age.
@viwinner Don't except a job where force is required through government to gain a pension but instead choose a life of personal responsibility and freedom. The government only teaches people the opposite of self reliance and responsibility and depends on aggression. Choose a job that has value and quit jobs that require stealing from others to supply a paycheck. It is all pretty simple but most are not raised with the value of self dependence and self ownership.
@hooverdog1957 Choose a job!!! You make it sound oh so simple, we are in a depression just having a job now and in the near future is a blessing. If I quit I would be on welfare and even more reliant on the government. The freedom to starve is no freedom at all. Note I believe unions are a good thing otherwise the capitalists would just exploit workers to maximize profits. Unions have fought for weekends, holidays, reducing hours and many other worker rights.I opted out of my government pension.
@hooverdog1957 Yes lets have a world without dinner ladies, lollipop women, cleaners, nurses and support workers of all kind as they do not have any value to society. These people should have no pensions and should work till they die.
Don't be arseholes and stop paying your liabilities. Make a start by just not taking out such debt in the first place. I'm doing my part by making sure I never take out a loan or mortgage in my life, they aren't compulsory. It annoys me when anarchists flab their mouths about corporate and political corruption but then go to the banks for money and go to starbucks for a coffee during your protests while speaking to your mates on your iPhone. You just end up being part of the problem.
@CrystalGenitals Never had Starbucks point a gun at my head to make me buy their coffee or a bank force me to deposit my money there or any corporation use force to buy any of their products. Capitalism allows choices, governments depend on force, aggression, corruption and oppression. Corporations lobby governments to gain an advantage on their competition. This is bribery plain and simple. We don't need more laws we need a real free market where the best succeeds.
I don't believe in a real free market because that just spells trouble. I think itl lead to a mass breach of ethical issues from the hands of major corporations and crush all other opposition. I think the concept of government is great but i strongly believe in greater regulation of business but major de-regulation on the individual. eg. I believe governments have no right to imprison a person who has consumed a substance while bearing all consequence. It's insane
@CrystalGenitals "I think the concept of government is great" Slavery = Freedom.
"I believe in greater regulation of business but major de-regulation on the individual"
That's cognitive dissonance - businesses are extensions of people. To regulate a business is to interfere with individual activity, which is the foundation of an economy. If I want to hire you at $25 an hour and we agree, but the govt says I must pay you $35, then I can't hire you, which effects your ability to buy weed ;)
@CrystalCenitals (and anyone else wanting to know more about government intervention in business) Please watch "Edgar the Exploiter" a new cartoon by BitButler watch?v=IFbYM2EDz40
@repfreedomforce Thanks for the video, but unfortunately I still disagree. Without the minimum wage demand for labour would reach near infinite levels. Effectively this would mean that almost everyone in the country would be eligible for a job removing the need for a job seekers allowance. This could lead to business charging rates for the lower 1% (for example) lower than that of a decently livable rate. This would push down the poor and push up the super rich. Look at china
@repfreedomforce Also i find the point about replacing human capital with machinary in the video incredibly wrong. If we could replace all human capital work with that of machines in the world then we could retain the same standards of living without lifting a finger. I find it often crap that people demand the creation for more jobs. if i pay you £5 to stand outside and look at the clouds is that a good thing? Job created? Yes. Value added? None. I'm open for debate though.
@CrystalGenitals Love your username! Good thoughts you shared about automation. I don't think that your depiction of human nature is complete. You seem to be saying that without government intervention, people would treat one another like garbage in business, or am I reading it wrong? The challenge is upon the individual to become valuable, to cultivate a skill or a product or service that does add value to business. Business people pay a premium for value added workers.
Too many humans with 360s, x factor or beer bottles glued in front of there faces for too much of the time. Get of your asses, learn as much as you can about as much as you can and have fun. Life is just a ride remember...........
I agree with some of this but what about PRIVATE corporations and banking institutions they sanction mass violence against people other animals and the planet all in the name of profit margins and what about the capitalist idea of infinite growth on a finite planet?
Symbiosis is the key to to the richness and complexity of Earth's life forms and long term success for species and the Eco-system as a whole not 'survival of the fittest'. So i think your reference to social Darwinism is misplaced.
Mortgages wouldn't just disappear; they'd be 'sold off' to another firm, just look at the 'Secondary Mortgage Market'. However, what would probably happen is the loss of individuals savings, and any money in a current account. I'm no expert, but I'd imagine that's what would happen. It's a one way system. So instead of us bailing out the banks, hard working people would lose their money. You can't win. Please stop being smug and thinking you know best, because you quite frankly don't.
now you are slipping into nonsensical utopian world of anarcho-capitalism charlie. I hope you will quickly see how that anarcho-capitalistic fantasy is contradictory in it self and hence is utter nonsense. Please stop plugging that stefbot only spreading complete nonsense. And yes everybody deserves decent living, everybody even useless nonsensical people like stefbot and his anarcho-capitalist followers.
Total crap the unions are fighting against the state's attempts to steal people's pensions. Ayn Rand's objectivism is nothing short of the sociopathic selfishness there's nothing gained from gloryfing selfishness. The right-libertarian view is also nonsensical because it requires a state to maintain it's absolutism of private property. It ignores the axiom of the land being our shared resource and responsibility. Anarcho-capitalism is simply an oxymoron and lassez-faire is a religious cult.
@MetaReaLizard If "sociopathic selfishness" is all what you get from Ayn Rand books you probably should learn read with understanding.
Unions (specially public sector) are just hyens that want too steel money from ppl. Of course they never ever ever admit it, they always cover it by nice worlds, like descent... etc. If you are saying that you should have the right to something because you exist, in the same time you saying somebody should not have right to something...
@cveitch I'm not in a union nor do I have a pension. I am for the little guy every time Charlie I am for standing side to side with the oppressed and taking on the state. Look at the history of the unions from the Tolpuddle Martyrs all the way through to the formation of the Labour party see for yourself the sacrifices they made fighting against the system and the state. Study Chomsky, Georgism, Proudhon, Bakunin like you listen to Molyneux and see if you still feel the same.
@MetaReaLizard Your comments are spot on. I am surprised by the number of Rand and molyneux supporters among the young. How did this happen? or is it just here.
@MetaReaLizard Chomsky? Chomsky will be worth studying the day he makes any effort to study economics. The guy's an absolute hypocrite, a tax-dodging millionaire anti-capitalist who charges extortionate rates for hyped up talks about how bad capitalism is. Spare yourself the hype and go study Mises, Rothbard, Hoppe... people who actually know how capital and markets function.
@BelleAndTheBoy I already have studied von mises etc it's totally debunked illogical crap that is based on a totally unfounded premise of human nature. Keynes, Freidman, Stiglitz none of them have any time for it... Economically it is a joke.. "The reason the invisible hand seems invisible... is frankly because it isn't there" Stiglitz. Freidman supported Land Value Tax and Negative income tax. Chomsky challenges the fundamental premise not what is logically deduced by Von Mises.
@MetaReaLizard Chomsky challenges himself to make even more money off useful idiots than he did last year. You wanna talk about something being an economical joke, and then use Keynes as an example of good economic thinking? I suppose you've missed the crisis of Keynsianism which is currently ravaging the global economy. If you stick to the orthodoxy of economics you're only ever going to hear from the state's court jesters, not anybody who's actually pursuing scientific truth.
@BelleAndTheBoy I didn't use Keynes as an example of good economic thinking it is far more widely accepted as good economic thinking than Austrian school. Scientific truth..? When von misesen economics is founded on the basis that economics is not a science? It's you that contradicts themselves.
Charlie has finally turned into his dad, how inevitable. This privately educated tory boy has now reverted to type and is now equating capitalism with freedom.
@foofkanon By calling me a Tory Boy, you show that you know NOTHING about me or my work. By being upset by my private education, you should maybe look inside yourself and ask why does this bother you? Did I choose it myself when I was a little boy? Human beings have traded capital for thousands of years. Am I really equating capitalism with freedom? Or am I maybe saying that governments say capitalism but secretly mean socialism? Dude, you should maybe look within yourself before spouting shit
@cveitch I apologise for the adhominem remarks. Many of the people responsible for the neoliberalist policies of the last 30 years have been Ayn rand supporters (Alan Greenspan knew her well). These policies which have rolled back the state through deregulation and privatisation have enriched the few and impoverished the many. I realise that governments are not democratic enough but unlike corporations there is at least some democracy.I am for complete democracy in all areas.
@foofkanon What "deregulation"? The state has never rolled back, the regulations against businesses only increase as the state gains power against us all. "Impoverished the many"? People are wealthier now than ever before, due to what little liberty is retained in the market. In fact it's the market regulations which enrich the few, by enabling corporatists and oligopolies to rule markets while restraining their upstart competition. "Complete democracy"? That's just complete slavery.
@foofkanon What "deregulation"? The state has never rolled back, the regulations against businesses only increase as the state gains power against us all. "Impoverished the many"? People are wealthier now than ever before, due to what little liberty is retained in the market. In fact it's the market regulations which enrich the few, by enabling corporatists and oligopolies to rule markets while restraining their upstart competition. "Complete democracy"? That's just complete slavery.
@foofkanon What "deregulation"? The state has never rolled back, the regulations against businesses only increase as the state gains power against us all. "Impoverished the many"? People are wealthier now than ever before, due to what little liberty is retained in the market. In fact it's the market regulations which enrich the few, by enabling corporatists and oligopolies to rule markets while restraining their upstart competition. "Complete democracy"? That's just complete slavery.
@cveitch But you will find the views you are proposing are supported by the most right-wing of the Tory party Charlie... It's Austrian School of Economics. You're a smart guy take a look at the logic it is founded on, it is from a perspective that the only thing that motivates us is self-interest. Is that really what you believe Charlie?
I think most anarchists wouldn't even classify anarcho-capitalism as proper anarchism in the slightest and would more than likely to the "greatest tyranny ever known" to quote Chomsky. I consider myself Libertarian Socialist. There is a "statist" tendency within the socialist movement and my feelings are it would eventually lead to a usurpation of power by the state apparatus acting in its own self-interest (as seen in USSR etc...) which wasnt even socialism anyway as it had wage slavery etc...
Charlie how is bailing out banks socialism?
YouCantKillLove 1 month ago
@YouCantKillLove It seems charlie is being heavily influenced by right wing so called libertarians. Note also his thinly veiled attacks on the "poor and lazy". Textbook Ayn Rand survival of the fittest, I'm all right jack, kill the poor nonsense.
someoddballfreak 1 month ago
@YouCantKillLove It's Corporatism.
iTitanium 3 weeks ago
So this is Phase 2 is it ?
I was never into all that inside job stuff.But I notice that you are now starting on the Unions.As if the Thatcherite Regime hasn't done enough already and now you want to stick the knife in too. 26th March 2011, you didn't mind tagging along on that Union event trying to call it an "insurrection".
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Around 2/5ths of the population are of working age, the rest are either too young, too old or unfit for work.
America has a far larger percentage working for the GOV at one level or another.
(My uncle was the chairman of trade union at croydon post office, lol)
iRiggers 1 month ago
911
allancbacon 1 month ago
your maths isn't too sharp
23STEVO23 1 month ago
most enjoyable! back to entertaining vids, good stuff charlie!
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I don't support the low ad hominem arguments and insults from people here, and I would hate to be associated with people who are behaving like that. It's childish, counterproductive, and actually, cruel. But I feel the need to express to Charlie, that it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking that, if someone is very intelligent, as Stefan is, that they are right. What seems to have seduced a lot of young people into the cult of libertarianism, or Randianism, is the moralising of the ego...
Pikukat 1 month ago
Moralising egotistic behaviour and desires is highly dangerous, and it's precisely what capitalism is about. Except, capitalism *naturalises* greed and selfishness. It takes away the responsibility Randianism goes a step further and calls egotistic behaviour moral.
Also, Stefan expresses a lot of values that seem very intuitive to the ex-anarchist. But the conclusion is very different. It's never cogently expressed why a free-market with no government would be any better for the world and...
Pikukat 1 month ago
equality, than the current system, which is also a free-market economy (almost globally) that pulls the strings of middlemen, puppet governments. It's corporations that rule the world, much more than government or individual leaders. I thought Charlie would now that
Pikukat 1 month ago
@Pikukat
This system is NOT a free market. In a free market, there are NO subsidies, there's NO lobbying for laws to the benefit of big business, and most of all, incompetent assholes like the big banks get absolutely NO taxpayer funded bailouts. You do well, you get rewarded. You fail, you eat the losses and try to learn from your mistakes.
Alastrian83 1 month ago
@Pikukat
Rational self-interest is not the same as greed and selfishness. It is in everyone's rational self interest, for example, to act in good faith when doing business, not cheating the customer. It tends to be statist corporate fatcats, their lobbyists, politicians and presstitutes who exhibit the greed and selfishness. They're all out of good will, as both the Tea Party and the Occupy movement demonstrate.
Alastrian83 1 month ago
@Alastrian83 I understand your sentiment, but what were these fatcats and corrupt politicians before they gained the power that gave them the freedoms they now abuse? Although, there's a concentration of sociopaths and pyschopaths in those higher echelons, a lot of them behaved like normal people before they gained those excessive freedoms. We differ in the amount of trust we place in humanity at large. It's not that I don't think we can have a good, free society, I just don't believe that the..
Pikukat 1 month ago
... libertarian model is fit for the job. It doesn't take into account all the pitfalls involved with a society of humans and the way humans can exploit and abuse each other.
Pikukat 1 month ago
@Pikukat If a human "abuses" another by causing loss of life, liberty, or property then that's where the law comes in. Libertarians don't advocate a lawless society; just a society in which government is small, plays a limited role in people's lives, does not interfere with the free market, and protects the freedom and liberty of the individual.
RustyL121 1 month ago
@Pikukat
How do you know that libertarianism isn't fit for the job? When has it EVER been tried? Just so you know, neocons like Reagan and Bush, and neo-liberals like Thatcher are not examples of libertarianism. What they would call 'deregulation' is really just regulation in favour of big business, at the expense of everyone else. A libertarian society is where NOBODY gets special privilege, subsidies or laws passed in their favour to the detriment of their opponents and competitors.
Alastrian83 1 month ago
@Pikukat
Normal people don't just suddenly become sociopaths. Maybe the fatcats were better at hiding their sociopathy before they gain command over the military and the police. They are often really good at hiding their true nature, and sadly, even when their illness becomes glaringly obvious, a lot of people still won't accept that truth.
Alastrian83 1 month ago
@Pikukat
Griping about ad hominems then calling libertarianism a 'cult'? You can't have it both ways.
Alastrian83 1 month ago
I am subscribing again. I'd like you to become an Austrian-libertarian anarchist now and leave all of that socialism behind you. I am very pleased with you now.
lucretiuscaro 1 month ago
@lucretiuscaro If they asked you what about freeriders and not paying for tax, you need to answer that Austrian economics shows how the price discovery mechanism creates emergent orders in society and that no exernal force is required to have people satisfy their needs.
lucretiuscaro 1 month ago
What you have is still better than what is in the U.S. Just wait until you prisons are privatized. Some times the govt should run things, otherwise they get abused even more than the govt could dream of.
darbone 1 month ago
traitor!!!
nicolaidna 1 month ago
Emotionally appealing reductionism.
Anima14 1 month ago
According to the lastest data (Sept 2011) the 10 richest americans have a combined income of $291 billion. Thats the point the Occupy movement was making - a distinctly anti capitalist one. The state and its apparatus is build and used to protect the interests of the ruling class - in order to talk about smashing the state you have to decide who's side you're on. Put down Ayn Rand and read a little wider
northerninertia 1 month ago
@northerninertia Obviously the state exists to serve the ruling class, and in doing so the state opposes capitalism. Capitalism is the right to keep what you earn and do with it what you will; what exists in the west now is corporatism, a quasi-capitalist regime designed to protect corporatists from competition. The state must be smashed so that capitalism can be open to all people, so that we can find the best ways to serve one another's interests in a voluntary manner.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@BelleAndTheBoy
Absolutely correct. I'd go further by saying that 'quasi-capitalism' and 'corporatism' are just nice ways of saying 'soft fascism'. Opponents of the 'elite' aren't being herded into deathcamps, but there is that same unholy marriage of corporation and state.
Alastrian83 1 month ago
There are 29 million people in the UK workforce and 6 million in the public sector - that includes teachers, nurses and doctors. What figure would you put on the number of lazy Nurses who dont deserve a pension? Everyone that lives in this society deserves a home, enough food and clothing and to spend their last years being able to pay the heating bill. According to research around 4,000 old people (pensioners) die of the cold every year in the UK.
northerninertia 1 month ago
You cannot have individual freedom & capitalism. Individual freedom within free market capitalism is an illusion. All long as there is capitalism, you will have poverty, exploitation of people and planet. The solution to the tyranny of the state is one that fights for a society - from below - that is based on human need. Some of your arguments on unions and pension are just bdly researched and badly thought through.
northerninertia 1 month ago
@northerninertia And yet capitalism is the only system we have to quench human need, that's why the greatest explosion of wealth and material success has occurred in capitalist countries during times when the market is relatively free, and why attempts to prevent capitalism have always resulted in the greatest depths of tyranny and poverty known to man. You can't prohibit capitalism without prohibiting both liberty and basic survival.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
Your Your arguments shift from left to right in the blink of an eye. You now seem to be arguing an essentially anarcho-capitalist position. Capitalism - with or without a state - is an inherently exploitative system.
northerninertia 1 month ago 2
This is pure embarrassment to watch, banks wouldn't of had the profit motive if it wasn't for Capitalism.....
23lFrench 1 month ago
08:10 he just defined Capitalism.
23lFrench 1 month ago
Real Socialism/Communism is no government at all.....
23lFrench 1 month ago
@23lFrench
Then its a dangerously utopian delusion. Human nature is NOT collectivist. Without a powerful central authority, how do you expect everyone in society to lay themselves upon the altar of self sacrifice for the collective?
Alastrian83 1 month ago
A month ago he wanted to abolish money and now he is a crazy Capitalist. I just can't take this guy seriously.
23lFrench 1 month ago 2
Ugh go creep back under your stone.
Love from,
-A Hater.
mikea69x 1 month ago
oh NO! Charlie has gone anarcho capitalist!! the present money is fake, FAKE!! if you talk about pensions and such forth please make it clear that a 'free market' means people can use whatever the heck they want for money & aren't restrained to using the toilet paper printed by government.
weeearthlings 1 month ago
other than that, great video! but we can't get bogged down in the money bullshit. the only 'currency' that exists is the kind that's constantly changing... Mumma nature is the only lender and her interest is in keeping us alive and thriving.
weeearthlings 1 month ago
please change your channel to the original view!!!!
inocentforever 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
YOU ARE IN THAT 20%
MrCHINBAG 1 month ago
DEFINITELY MOSSAD!
MrCHINBAG 1 month ago
Just been watching Stefan Molyneux. He believes that the poor should not be given welfare as it rewards bad behaviour.The British refused to give the Irish aid during the potato famine for the same reason.A social security system,trade unions and free healthcare were acheived through the blood and toil of our forefathers,we have already lost free university education,decent public housing and the sick and weak are now villified and treated like dirt.
foofkanon 1 month ago in playlist More videos from cveitch
@foofkanon The point of opposing welfare is that the welfare system is a poverty trap: by rewarding bad behaviour, you encourage people to remain in poverty. It's not the same thing as emergency aid. "Free" healthcare? You pay for the NHS twice over: once in tax extortion, and again in the lost opportunities denied to us by the prohibitions against true healthcare competition. If you care about the sick and weak, you should embrace the free market.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@BelleAndTheBoy If you can point to one country in the world where the policies you favour have worked, i would be very interested.
foofkanon 1 month ago
@foofkanon What "policies"? I didn't advocate any policies, I just pointed out the truth behind the welfare system: it's a poverty trap designed to keep poor people poor. Go read some Walter Williams articles and see. I also pointed out the hidden costs of the NHS: not only do we pay a ridiculous price in taxes, we pay far more in lost opportunities. Healthcare would be of far superior quality and far lower cost if we had market competition, meaning a better standard of life for all.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
Ayn Rand? You just jumped the shark, Charlie. You can fuck off now.
fistofonan 1 month ago
@cveitch ; Those " people who work for the government " also work for the people ...they are ; Doctors , Nurses , surgeons , care workers , teachers , bin men , etc ... and im one of them ..Hurrah for public sector workers ...and the provision of public services . Talking about lazy people who dont deserve a pension , we should include you in that charlie , taking drugs and uploading daft little vids to youtube isnt much of a contribution to society now is it kiddo ? : )
holographicsentience 1 month ago in playlist More videos from cveitch
@holographicsentience There's no such thing as a public service.
BAAWAKnight 1 month ago
@BAAWAKnight ; In your opinion ...
holographicsentience 1 month ago
@holographicsentience In reality.
BAAWAKnight 1 month ago
@BAAWAKnight ; In your opinion : )
holographicsentience 1 month ago
@holographicsentience In reality.
BAAWAKnight 1 month ago
@holographicsentience So long as Charlie gets his money from people who voluntary pay him, rather than having it stolen from strangers and handed to him, he's infinitely more productive than the parasitical 'public sector'. How can something be a "service" when you're arbitrarily forced to pay for it and then can only access it according to the whim of bureaucrats? You are ultimately a detriment to society, when all the hidden costs are tallied up.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago 2
blaming SATAN is ignorance manifest Charlie, HOW many times do U need telling?
TRY viewing everything from another perspective, one where EVERYTHING has CHANGED and SO there is no need to bleat on about HOW past injustices prevent things from moving forward.
the world where ALL LIFE can LIVE with DIGNITY EQUALLY is already HERE, always was.
lets consider ALL LIFE in everything we say think and do, stop brining the past into the present and therefore THE FUTURE and continually reminding ourselves
babylonIZfallin 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
18 million people work for the government ? You are not even close (even your estimate of the UK population is out by almost 10 million).
One fifth of the UK labour market (29.1m) is around 5.8m.
Typically your video is littered with inacuracies and overly reductionist thinking, the idea that the banks were saved to keep people from being homeowners is just another silly conspiracy theory.
BaptisteClinton 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos 2
@Baptisteclinton : that was before charlie became a right wing capitalist droid of the Rand persuasion , give him a week and he will announce something thats the complete opposite ... : )
holographicsentience 1 month ago
@holographicsentience
I think Charlie is simply unable or unwilling to understand complex 'mechanical' relationships between ideas, so you will see him march with the students demanding the state fund education through coercive taxation one day and the next day decry taxation, the state and coercion.
So now we see Charlie, who excitedly joined the throng at the recent TUC march, standing outside Unison HQ decrying unionism.
BaptisteClinton 1 month ago
@BaptisteClinton ; Lol , its a case of ..who will do charlies thinking for him this week ? Well , this week its Rand and Molyneux ...next week ..who knows : )
holographicsentience 1 month ago
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@BaptisteClinton ; " I think Charlie is simply unable or unwilling to understand complex 'mechanical' relationships between ideas, so you will see him march with the students demanding the state fund education through coercive taxation one day and the next day decry taxation, the state and coercion."
At some stage , you have to say that no adult is THAT thick , and therefore he must be doing this on purpose . Christ a 10 year old could see the contradictions : )
holographicsentience 1 month ago
Question to Charlie.
You have previously said that the private sector should play no place in health and education.
It also seems obvious enough that you don't think the state should fund education and health through taxation.
So how do you think we should best fund both health and education ?
BaptisteClinton 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@BaptisteClinton Same way you fund your grocery purchases.
BAAWAKnight 1 month ago
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>"Same way you fund your grocery purchases"
To buy groceries you would earn money in the private sector or the public sector - and then buy those groceries in the private sector.
Charlie has said the private sector should play no part in health or education, nor does he think taxation by the state should fund health or education - so obviously he's unlikely to think health & education should be funded the same way grocery purchases are.
BaptisteClinton 1 month ago
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@fridaymondaytwenty Well I am glad you have the honesty to admit what right-libertarianism is all about. What exactly is a go-getter..? A person who makes vast amounts of profit raping the earth and it's reasources? Or a person who gives it all up to fight against corruption and injustice..? Unions have done more for the freedom and liberty of the masses in this country than anyone... they made the state listen to the people and if that is to happen again they will be a major part in it.
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
@MetaReaLizard Actually it's thanks to the unions that prohibitions like the minimum wage keeps so many people out of work. They demand unskilled workers like myself are prohibited from working for less than the arbitrary "minimum" because it gives skilled whites a monopoly on access to the labour market, and keeps non-whites out of work. Far from enable "freedom and liberty" they've shackled us all to the state's anti-liberty agenda. The union is the enemy of the working man.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@BelleAndTheBoy You are talking in completely Americanised terms... frankly "non-whites out of work?" is not only a divisory perspective it's also completely non-sensical in regard to the UK economy. The minimum wage is there to prevent exploitation, it is there to prevent people paying less than what is needed to live with basic degrees of dignity. If the freemarket is so wonderfully self-correcting, it shouldn't be a problem that an employer would seek to pay less than minimum wage.
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
@MetaReaLizard It ISN'T a problem that an employer would seek to pay less than minimum wage, the law didn't come about to fulfil a need but rather to defend white patriarchy. You want to tell me that keeping non-whites out of work isn't a UK problem after the 2011 London riots? 48% of black Brits are unemployed, compared to 31% of Asians and 20% of whites. The free market wants to employ anyone who can do the job, regardless of colour. The minimum wage is a subsidy for biggotry.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@BelleAndTheBoy Of course it is a problem because they people getting paid can't feed and house their families. What you are talking about is taking desperate, powerless people and forcing them to work for far less than is reasonable because they have no choice. We had it in the UK that is why the Tolpuddle martyrs formed the first unions and it led to a struggle and eventually even the political representation of the working class... that's men, women, young, old, black, brown and white!
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
@BelleAndTheBoy As I said if the freemarket worked then wages would be above what people needed to survive so a freemarket capitalist should have no concern with minimum wages. Dude the UK does not think in terms of whites and non-whites... well apart from the extreme right. The unions fight for equality for everyone and against war... the mentality of division is what keeps us easy to rule over. This country will not be dragged back into racial hatred by the right i'll assure you of that!
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
Che Guevera: "We have no right to believe that freedom can be won without struggle."
Fuck the bank bailouts. They cannot arrest everyone - that is the publics trump card.
Laoch111 1 month ago
@Laoch111 Che ran a death camp where he executed dissenters, artists, intellectuals and homosexuals. His definition of "struggle" was torturing and murdering innocent people in support of his tyrannical despot friends.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@BelleAndTheBoy That is more exaggerated right wing propaganda. The big governments of the world are the biggest murderers of all.
Laoch111 1 month ago
So, if you win the lottery, isn't that freedom? any tax, mortgage anything the government wants from you, you'd be able to pay no problem what so ever, you wouldn't in theory even have to work or worry about a pension. So living the life you want to live = Lottery?
select899 1 month ago
Good word Charlie! You seem to be struggling a bit with some new information, but hats off for giving it a go! Thank you for pointing out the difference between the type of current "Capitalism" that's more akin to fascist/corporatism, and actual Capitalism which is the voluntary exchange between human beings unfettered by governments. You seem like a good person, and we need more like you. Cheers and support!
repfreedomforce 1 month ago
Real name is Andrew. Veitch
Once a shill , always a peice of shill.
phackqu 1 month ago
you don't know everything charlie.
yesman123ism 1 month ago
@yesman123ism he knows his arm reaches his dick...lol
dyedidi101 1 month ago
ohhhhh were allowed to comment on this video ?? but not inside job, BBC video??. Most comments are getting to Charlie. BTW, nice mushroom trip you had in amsterdam!!
dyedidi101 1 month ago
@fridaymondaytwenty Im glad you get it, good intelligent comment.
01downside 1 month ago
What an moron. I didn't support the bailout but to say it's communism or socialism is borderline retarded. Stop throwing around words you don;t understand , its embarrassing. You really must have made an effort to pay attention to the news over the last few years to think anything resembling free market capitalism is a good thing
killthebadguy 1 month ago 9
@killthebadguy What an moron? Hahaha. Sorry, the economic failures have been entirely at government fault. You must not really understand the situation to think freedom caused your money to lose value and be robbed from you.
UOGenesis 1 month ago
@UOGenesis Yeh it has absolutely nothing to do with Goldman Sachs or derivatives or corporate fraud
killthebadguy 1 month ago
@killthebadguy You're an idiot.
Isaidhi7 1 month ago
@killthebadguy The last few years have shown that fascism, socialism, interventionism, and mercantilism are all horrid.
BAAWAKnight 1 month ago
@BAAWAKnight ; The last few years have shown that unregulated capitalism leads to greed , corruption ... and economic chaos ...
holographicsentience 1 month ago
@holographicsentience So all the regulations simply didn't exist? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh, you're too funny.
And yes: the regulations existed and were enforced. Saying otherwise means that you're either deluded or lying.
BAAWAKnight 1 month ago
@killthebadguy You must not know what free market capitalism is if you think it's what we have
LTBL88 1 month ago
@killthebadguy I think its a combination of socialism, communism, and monarchy, it's disgusting whatever it is makes me puke ;o)
goldenknight777 1 month ago
@killthebadguy Yeah, if you spent a lot of time mindlessly absorbing mainstream news broadcasts you'd definitely come away with the idea that free market capitalism is a bad thing. But that's propaganda for you.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@killthebadguy What? Rubbish. I agree that calling this and that socialist just to gain an advantage in an argument is retarded, right. But. Free market not a good thing? Why someone needs to be punished for working hard and be forced to give money to both rich and poor that don't work or are happy with a life of a drone. People need to learn: make effort to earn it not because you simply ARE. The evil is not on wall street & others coz there is work, its in the laws that allow exploitation.
NekGraphs 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@killthebadguy And just who do you think you are kidding? I am near 60 and have never seen pure free maket capitolism. Neither have you!
bullsnutsoz 1 month ago
LOVE it brother. One question though. Wouldnt it be better for people to pay all that stuff off IE Mortgage and CC versus not paying them? Then they might be home less and have worse probelms ;) Free thinking is great but we want to be smart free thinkers as well ;) Get out of debt and out of the system as much as possible is what I would be teaching or saying. I love what you do brother. I would have to consider you a humanitarian. ;)
TheBlakestersXooma 1 month ago
theres more than 20% vat on every product, work it out charlie. Farmer sells his product, and gets vat taken on his price, buyer gets vat taken, shops they sell it to get vat on it, and whoever buys it gets vat on it,thats 4x 20% vat on every product, fooking organised crims every govt
magnusalexa 1 month ago
@fridaymondaytwenty You, sir, are absolutely correct
cveitch 1 month ago
Great video Charlie! You should check out Milton Freidman's book 'Capitalism and Freedom' and also Ludwig von Mises' 'The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality'. Also Murray Rothbard and some of the other great Austrian economists.
emilylouisechurchos 1 month ago
@emilylouisechurchos thanks emily, I will!
cveitch 1 month ago
The state is the only thing keeping Capitalism standing. Without the state we will see the people who have under no choice of their own been born into a poor area stay the slave class and the middle and upper class staying where they are.
23lFrench 1 month ago 2
@23lFrench Prove it.
BAAWAKnight 1 month ago
Nowt socialist about Unison ..theyre a Bosses union ..always have been ...
holographicsentience 1 month ago
It's more like they bit their own tale. A true Fairy tale ;)
Freedom is within, and everyone is looking for it outside.
and btw.. nothing is evil/good, except the viewer that has his view on it. Best is, not to judge :)
cohnkrad 1 month ago
Wonderful video, Charlie. As always, I'm greatly impressed with your delivery and presentation!
The fact that you've offended so many people (judging by the comments here) means that you're doing something RIGHT :)
AlexanderReiswich 1 month ago
Why are you still around, people around you must be stupid as shit.
michaelsterling37 1 month ago
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michaelsterling37 1 month ago
I'm truly impressed how eloquent you are. Even in the face of the ignorance of slave minded police. Thank you for teaching us Americans true courage to fight for liberty.
tychampfight3r 1 month ago
Capitalism is inherently anti-democratic and is force without the majority of people realising it.
23lFrench 1 month ago
@23lFrench I never had anyone selling me anything put a gun to my head to make me purchase their goods or services. Now the government on the other hand does this to me multiple times per day throughout my entire life. Governments have a monopoly on force. The government is not your friend, it is your enemy and the source of all tyranny in modern times. I don't want majority rule or democracy. That is mob rule. I want the individual to rule himself. I want freedom.
hooverdog1957 1 month ago
So he is an Anarcho-Capitalist now? What a douche.
23lFrench 1 month ago
@23lFrench The only douche is a person that wants to use force and aggression to make another comply with their wishes. Look in the mirror.
hooverdog1957 1 month ago
@hooverdog1957 I am not a fan of Capitalism nor the Government. Capitalism is slavery from the man with nothing to the man with every thing. I should have the freedom to not be forced to work in a hierarchical private tyranny where I have no power over what the business does, I merely take orders from above and accept their authority. Doesn't equate to what freedom means to me I am afraid but you know... that is just like... my opinion.
23lFrench 1 month ago
@23lFrench Capitalism is slavery like baldness is a hair color.
BAAWAKnight 1 month ago
I expect north americans to fall for Stefan Molyneux for they are as brainwashed as North Koreans.However to see this evil selfish creed over here and influencing young people like Charlie and his mates is very worrying. That introduction of deserving and undeserving was straight out of the right wing of the Tory party. This anti union, anti social safety net, crap is beyond despicable.
foofkanon 1 month ago 2
@foofkanon You obviously have been indoctrinated in a public school and by parents that are not self reliant and taught you to be the same.
hooverdog1957 1 month ago
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cveitch 1 month ago
@cveitch ; Nice to see you out yourself as a right wing capitalist at last ...
holographicsentience 1 month ago
Come on Charlie UNISON fights for the little guy the support assistants, bin men and lollipop ladies not soldiers or bankers. I myself am now opting out of pensions as this ponzi scheme is going to collapse as the the public sector starts getting squeezed there will not be enough people going in to the scheme to pay off the people leaving. Also UNISON is fighting the government policy of stealing the pension fund from all the workers and the of raising the contributions and the retirement age.
viwinner 1 month ago
@viwinner Don't except a job where force is required through government to gain a pension but instead choose a life of personal responsibility and freedom. The government only teaches people the opposite of self reliance and responsibility and depends on aggression. Choose a job that has value and quit jobs that require stealing from others to supply a paycheck. It is all pretty simple but most are not raised with the value of self dependence and self ownership.
hooverdog1957 1 month ago
@hooverdog1957 Choose a job!!! You make it sound oh so simple, we are in a depression just having a job now and in the near future is a blessing. If I quit I would be on welfare and even more reliant on the government. The freedom to starve is no freedom at all. Note I believe unions are a good thing otherwise the capitalists would just exploit workers to maximize profits. Unions have fought for weekends, holidays, reducing hours and many other worker rights.I opted out of my government pension.
viwinner 1 month ago
@hooverdog1957 Yes lets have a world without dinner ladies, lollipop women, cleaners, nurses and support workers of all kind as they do not have any value to society. These people should have no pensions and should work till they die.
viwinner 1 month ago
Tyranny always forces rebellion. How successful the rebellion is is determined by how early the rebellion began.
Fabian4Liberty 1 month ago 2
Don't be arseholes and stop paying your liabilities. Make a start by just not taking out such debt in the first place. I'm doing my part by making sure I never take out a loan or mortgage in my life, they aren't compulsory. It annoys me when anarchists flab their mouths about corporate and political corruption but then go to the banks for money and go to starbucks for a coffee during your protests while speaking to your mates on your iPhone. You just end up being part of the problem.
CrystalGenitals 1 month ago
@CrystalGenitals Never had Starbucks point a gun at my head to make me buy their coffee or a bank force me to deposit my money there or any corporation use force to buy any of their products. Capitalism allows choices, governments depend on force, aggression, corruption and oppression. Corporations lobby governments to gain an advantage on their competition. This is bribery plain and simple. We don't need more laws we need a real free market where the best succeeds.
hooverdog1957 1 month ago
@hooverdog1957
I don't believe in a real free market because that just spells trouble. I think itl lead to a mass breach of ethical issues from the hands of major corporations and crush all other opposition. I think the concept of government is great but i strongly believe in greater regulation of business but major de-regulation on the individual. eg. I believe governments have no right to imprison a person who has consumed a substance while bearing all consequence. It's insane
CrystalGenitals 1 month ago
@CrystalGenitals "I think the concept of government is great" Slavery = Freedom.
"I believe in greater regulation of business but major de-regulation on the individual"
That's cognitive dissonance - businesses are extensions of people. To regulate a business is to interfere with individual activity, which is the foundation of an economy. If I want to hire you at $25 an hour and we agree, but the govt says I must pay you $35, then I can't hire you, which effects your ability to buy weed ;)
repfreedomforce 1 month ago 7
@CrystalCenitals (and anyone else wanting to know more about government intervention in business) Please watch "Edgar the Exploiter" a new cartoon by BitButler watch?v=IFbYM2EDz40
repfreedomforce 1 month ago
@repfreedomforce Thanks for the video, but unfortunately I still disagree. Without the minimum wage demand for labour would reach near infinite levels. Effectively this would mean that almost everyone in the country would be eligible for a job removing the need for a job seekers allowance. This could lead to business charging rates for the lower 1% (for example) lower than that of a decently livable rate. This would push down the poor and push up the super rich. Look at china
CrystalGenitals 1 month ago
@repfreedomforce Also i find the point about replacing human capital with machinary in the video incredibly wrong. If we could replace all human capital work with that of machines in the world then we could retain the same standards of living without lifting a finger. I find it often crap that people demand the creation for more jobs. if i pay you £5 to stand outside and look at the clouds is that a good thing? Job created? Yes. Value added? None. I'm open for debate though.
CrystalGenitals 1 month ago
@CrystalGenitals Love your username! Good thoughts you shared about automation. I don't think that your depiction of human nature is complete. You seem to be saying that without government intervention, people would treat one another like garbage in business, or am I reading it wrong? The challenge is upon the individual to become valuable, to cultivate a skill or a product or service that does add value to business. Business people pay a premium for value added workers.
repfreedomforce 1 month ago
Too many humans with 360s, x factor or beer bottles glued in front of there faces for too much of the time. Get of your asses, learn as much as you can about as much as you can and have fun. Life is just a ride remember...........
gssg9 1 month ago
Charlie ... Google fdrliberated and spend a day reading the site. Please.
fuckoverload 1 month ago
I think you have just revealed yourself to be an anarcho capitalist whilst trying to use anarcho communist rhetoric
nickpov3y 1 month ago
@nickpov3y I think that you misunderstand the philosophy.
erelpc 1 month ago
I agree with some of this but what about PRIVATE corporations and banking institutions they sanction mass violence against people other animals and the planet all in the name of profit margins and what about the capitalist idea of infinite growth on a finite planet?
Symbiosis is the key to to the richness and complexity of Earth's life forms and long term success for species and the Eco-system as a whole not 'survival of the fittest'. So i think your reference to social Darwinism is misplaced.
revolutionloveevolve 1 month ago
Mortgages wouldn't just disappear; they'd be 'sold off' to another firm, just look at the 'Secondary Mortgage Market'. However, what would probably happen is the loss of individuals savings, and any money in a current account. I'm no expert, but I'd imagine that's what would happen. It's a one way system. So instead of us bailing out the banks, hard working people would lose their money. You can't win. Please stop being smug and thinking you know best, because you quite frankly don't.
MattTennison 1 month ago
now you are slipping into nonsensical utopian world of anarcho-capitalism charlie. I hope you will quickly see how that anarcho-capitalistic fantasy is contradictory in it self and hence is utter nonsense. Please stop plugging that stefbot only spreading complete nonsense. And yes everybody deserves decent living, everybody even useless nonsensical people like stefbot and his anarcho-capitalist followers.
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Ohhh. So we can comment now Cveitch? Or is it Damian? Im sorry mate, you've lost me. Anyways, to make things clear: The State = The people
Government = "The ones in charge"
Hornystick 1 month ago
Total crap the unions are fighting against the state's attempts to steal people's pensions. Ayn Rand's objectivism is nothing short of the sociopathic selfishness there's nothing gained from gloryfing selfishness. The right-libertarian view is also nonsensical because it requires a state to maintain it's absolutism of private property. It ignores the axiom of the land being our shared resource and responsibility. Anarcho-capitalism is simply an oxymoron and lassez-faire is a religious cult.
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago 16
@MetaReaLizard If "sociopathic selfishness" is all what you get from Ayn Rand books you probably should learn read with understanding.
Unions (specially public sector) are just hyens that want too steel money from ppl. Of course they never ever ever admit it, they always cover it by nice worlds, like descent... etc. If you are saying that you should have the right to something because you exist, in the same time you saying somebody should not have right to something...
sebek23b 1 month ago
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@MetaReaLizard I think you have become emotionally attached, though I value your opinion nonetheless.
cveitch 1 month ago
@cveitch ; Ayn Rand was an unhappy old selfish cunt .....
holographicsentience 1 month ago 3
@cveitch I'm not in a union nor do I have a pension. I am for the little guy every time Charlie I am for standing side to side with the oppressed and taking on the state. Look at the history of the unions from the Tolpuddle Martyrs all the way through to the formation of the Labour party see for yourself the sacrifices they made fighting against the system and the state. Study Chomsky, Georgism, Proudhon, Bakunin like you listen to Molyneux and see if you still feel the same.
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
@MetaReaLizard Your comments are spot on. I am surprised by the number of Rand and molyneux supporters among the young. How did this happen? or is it just here.
foofkanon 1 month ago
@foofkanon ; Dont worry ..its just here ...
holographicsentience 1 month ago
@MetaReaLizard Chomsky? Chomsky will be worth studying the day he makes any effort to study economics. The guy's an absolute hypocrite, a tax-dodging millionaire anti-capitalist who charges extortionate rates for hyped up talks about how bad capitalism is. Spare yourself the hype and go study Mises, Rothbard, Hoppe... people who actually know how capital and markets function.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@BelleAndTheBoy I already have studied von mises etc it's totally debunked illogical crap that is based on a totally unfounded premise of human nature. Keynes, Freidman, Stiglitz none of them have any time for it... Economically it is a joke.. "The reason the invisible hand seems invisible... is frankly because it isn't there" Stiglitz. Freidman supported Land Value Tax and Negative income tax. Chomsky challenges the fundamental premise not what is logically deduced by Von Mises.
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
@MetaReaLizard Chomsky challenges himself to make even more money off useful idiots than he did last year. You wanna talk about something being an economical joke, and then use Keynes as an example of good economic thinking? I suppose you've missed the crisis of Keynsianism which is currently ravaging the global economy. If you stick to the orthodoxy of economics you're only ever going to hear from the state's court jesters, not anybody who's actually pursuing scientific truth.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@BelleAndTheBoy I didn't use Keynes as an example of good economic thinking it is far more widely accepted as good economic thinking than Austrian school. Scientific truth..? When von misesen economics is founded on the basis that economics is not a science? It's you that contradicts themselves.
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
Charlie has finally turned into his dad, how inevitable. This privately educated tory boy has now reverted to type and is now equating capitalism with freedom.
foofkanon 1 month ago 7
@foofkanon Well said... sir!
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
@foofkanon Although Stefan Molyneux is probably better to idolise than Alex Jones rofl!
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
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@foofkanon By calling me a Tory Boy, you show that you know NOTHING about me or my work. By being upset by my private education, you should maybe look inside yourself and ask why does this bother you? Did I choose it myself when I was a little boy? Human beings have traded capital for thousands of years. Am I really equating capitalism with freedom? Or am I maybe saying that governments say capitalism but secretly mean socialism? Dude, you should maybe look within yourself before spouting shit
cveitch 1 month ago 3
@cveitch ; You wouldnt know socialism if it poked you in the eye ...
holographicsentience 1 month ago
@cveitch I apologise for the adhominem remarks. Many of the people responsible for the neoliberalist policies of the last 30 years have been Ayn rand supporters (Alan Greenspan knew her well). These policies which have rolled back the state through deregulation and privatisation have enriched the few and impoverished the many. I realise that governments are not democratic enough but unlike corporations there is at least some democracy.I am for complete democracy in all areas.
foofkanon 1 month ago
@foofkanon What "deregulation"? The state has never rolled back, the regulations against businesses only increase as the state gains power against us all. "Impoverished the many"? People are wealthier now than ever before, due to what little liberty is retained in the market. In fact it's the market regulations which enrich the few, by enabling corporatists and oligopolies to rule markets while restraining their upstart competition. "Complete democracy"? That's just complete slavery.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@foofkanon What "deregulation"? The state has never rolled back, the regulations against businesses only increase as the state gains power against us all. "Impoverished the many"? People are wealthier now than ever before, due to what little liberty is retained in the market. In fact it's the market regulations which enrich the few, by enabling corporatists and oligopolies to rule markets while restraining their upstart competition. "Complete democracy"? That's just complete slavery.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
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@foofkanon What "deregulation"? The state has never rolled back, the regulations against businesses only increase as the state gains power against us all. "Impoverished the many"? People are wealthier now than ever before, due to what little liberty is retained in the market. In fact it's the market regulations which enrich the few, by enabling corporatists and oligopolies to rule markets while restraining their upstart competition. "Complete democracy"? That's just complete slavery.
BelleAndTheBoy 1 month ago
@cveitch But you will find the views you are proposing are supported by the most right-wing of the Tory party Charlie... It's Austrian School of Economics. You're a smart guy take a look at the logic it is founded on, it is from a perspective that the only thing that motivates us is self-interest. Is that really what you believe Charlie?
MetaReaLizard 1 month ago
its hard to listen to this guy, tomorrow he will change his mind 100%
THEFOLLOWING100 1 month ago
@THEFOLLOWING100 So you still beleave in Santa. fairy's ghouls and all your other childhood beliefs. I hope not, but somehow I dout it.
gssg9 1 month ago
rand? nooooo...
strawprophet 1 month ago
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I think most anarchists wouldn't even classify anarcho-capitalism as proper anarchism in the slightest and would more than likely to the "greatest tyranny ever known" to quote Chomsky. I consider myself Libertarian Socialist. There is a "statist" tendency within the socialist movement and my feelings are it would eventually lead to a usurpation of power by the state apparatus acting in its own self-interest (as seen in USSR etc...) which wasnt even socialism anyway as it had wage slavery etc...
aiiiunluckykid 1 month ago
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aiiiunluckykid 1 month ago
Anarchy is madness imo. I don't get why you reject a resource based economy and the zeitgeistmovement?
sweYoda2 1 month ago