This movie is interesting at many levels. Note Francois had written a book about the "mystical philosophy of Simone Weil" (herself a precocious learner) so it's quite understable that he is attracted by a student as brilliant as Mathilde. Mathilde reads Francois's book and tries to live up to his expectations, to the point of emulating Simone Weil and starving herself to death.
@711Myself Unfortunately you completely missed the point. The film is an allegorical representation of what Nietzsche termed "Den Züber-alrtunen-gedansk-leimenen" namely the phenomenon of a counter-transmutation which supersedes the transvaluation propounded in Thus Spoke Zarathustra in terms of non elective affinity of helleniocentric/ isotonic diaspora (relating to the increasing rate of heterosexuality amongst gay males nurses in the larger Boston area in the mid 80's) LOL good analysis mate!
Possible Spoilers: This was twisted and immoral on many levels. The teacher should have been charged with assaulr. He should have lost his teaching license. The wife and other teacher should not have remained loyal and should have dropped dimes. Now if the movie had made clear that these things were wrong, and that the teacher was a scumbag predator, fine. But it didn't. There was no Le Bonheur or another type of ending for it all to make sense. SkIp this movie unless you are a sick f***.
@711Myself Maybe I was a bit offensive too with my comment. I actually liked the movie. I had a similar reaction to when I saw that Johnny Depp-Brando one concerning snuff films. Good movies. Entertaining. And whatnot. But the endings were so twisted, I felt dirty inside. Yeah, this movie would not do well in America. This isn't about being prudish. The phrase exploitation film comes to mind.
@SocraticTruths Is this SO wrong that a teacher and his student have a relationship together ? If it's abuse of authority, yes it is really wrong, of course. But in the movie he is in love with her, with her mind, her history... And finally she is maybe the one who abuses. Of course the fact he become obsessed is not good neither.. But what is striking is not the fact that he is his teacher, but the fact he is more than twice her age. If he were 24 would you think the same way ?
@TheGloriousMuse That girl was in trouble. Teachers are in that special category of reporter. They are not meant to be fooling around with their students. If she was of age, then it wouldn't have been as wrong but still immoral. Yes, the age difference is the big problem. If he was 24 and she 19, and he was her college instructor, then I'd have no problem with it. As long as he wasn't giving her good grades she didn't deserve. I concede there is a big difference between statutary rape and rape.
Don't be so judgmental. Some people as the movie entitled them "are prisons of their destiny". As much as you want to skip this sort of situation --you just can't. The movie has a clear message that this kind of relationship is not okay. It's just a jumble of feelings that the characters can't help but feel toward one another.
I'm sorry if it sickens you but from this point of view some people may learn to escape from these situations if they ever approach them in their lives.
Many thanks for uploading this movie. I first saw it when it was released (back in my college days) and had wanted to see it again since then. I feel really touched when Mathilde tells Françoise that she would live as a recluse if necessary for them to be together, and he replies that it would not last two months. Then at the end of the movie it is shown that she fulfilled her promise, while Françoise feels regretful for not having been there to fulfill his.
This movie is interesting at many levels. Note Francois had written a book about the "mystical philosophy of Simone Weil" (herself a precocious learner) so it's quite understable that he is attracted by a student as brilliant as Mathilde. Mathilde reads Francois's book and tries to live up to his expectations, to the point of emulating Simone Weil and starving herself to death.
711Myself 3 months ago
@711Myself Unfortunately you completely missed the point. The film is an allegorical representation of what Nietzsche termed "Den Züber-alrtunen-gedansk-leimenen" namely the phenomenon of a counter-transmutation which supersedes the transvaluation propounded in Thus Spoke Zarathustra in terms of non elective affinity of helleniocentric/ isotonic diaspora (relating to the increasing rate of heterosexuality amongst gay males nurses in the larger Boston area in the mid 80's) LOL good analysis mate!
turockandar 1 month ago
Thanks for sharing this wonderful movie with us!
I love the ending. It was sad but I loved the message.
"L'océan, François, il y a l'océan."
Harlequinader 3 months ago
a 19'17'' très mignonne la fille avec son pull jaune !
vince89130 5 months ago
Possible Spoilers: This was twisted and immoral on many levels. The teacher should have been charged with assaulr. He should have lost his teaching license. The wife and other teacher should not have remained loyal and should have dropped dimes. Now if the movie had made clear that these things were wrong, and that the teacher was a scumbag predator, fine. But it didn't. There was no Le Bonheur or another type of ending for it all to make sense. SkIp this movie unless you are a sick f***.
SocraticTruths 5 months ago
@SocraticTruths Thanks god this movie was not filmed in the US. Otherwise, the director & actors would have been cruxified.
711Myself 5 months ago
@711Myself Maybe I was a bit offensive too with my comment. I actually liked the movie. I had a similar reaction to when I saw that Johnny Depp-Brando one concerning snuff films. Good movies. Entertaining. And whatnot. But the endings were so twisted, I felt dirty inside. Yeah, this movie would not do well in America. This isn't about being prudish. The phrase exploitation film comes to mind.
SocraticTruths 5 months ago
@SocraticTruths Is this SO wrong that a teacher and his student have a relationship together ? If it's abuse of authority, yes it is really wrong, of course. But in the movie he is in love with her, with her mind, her history... And finally she is maybe the one who abuses. Of course the fact he become obsessed is not good neither.. But what is striking is not the fact that he is his teacher, but the fact he is more than twice her age. If he were 24 would you think the same way ?
TheGloriousMuse 5 months ago
@TheGloriousMuse That girl was in trouble. Teachers are in that special category of reporter. They are not meant to be fooling around with their students. If she was of age, then it wouldn't have been as wrong but still immoral. Yes, the age difference is the big problem. If he was 24 and she 19, and he was her college instructor, then I'd have no problem with it. As long as he wasn't giving her good grades she didn't deserve. I concede there is a big difference between statutary rape and rape.
SocraticTruths 5 months ago
@SocraticTruths
Don't be so judgmental. Some people as the movie entitled them "are prisons of their destiny". As much as you want to skip this sort of situation --you just can't. The movie has a clear message that this kind of relationship is not okay. It's just a jumble of feelings that the characters can't help but feel toward one another.
I'm sorry if it sickens you but from this point of view some people may learn to escape from these situations if they ever approach them in their lives.
Harlequinader 3 months ago
@Harlequinader Fair enough.
SocraticTruths 3 months ago
good work!!! thakyou so much !!!!!!
Welverance 6 months ago
Many thanks for uploading this movie. I first saw it when it was released (back in my college days) and had wanted to see it again since then. I feel really touched when Mathilde tells Françoise that she would live as a recluse if necessary for them to be together, and he replies that it would not last two months. Then at the end of the movie it is shown that she fulfilled her promise, while Françoise feels regretful for not having been there to fulfill his.
711Myself 7 months ago 2
Thanks for the film!
dirtynuke 7 months ago 2
Word!
dirtynuke 7 months ago