Seminar on the far-Right and Pro-Islamist Left: Douglas Murray & Maryam Namazie Q&A

[Secular1000]

"The devil lies in details", far Left/Right should be exposed, so UAF- United morons.

[Riiye]

@Secular1000 UAF - a publicly funded group that frequently engages in rioting and public disorder, while every brick thrown is blamed on whoever they're protesting against.

[Secular1000]

@Riiye

They're cowards with a serious mental illness which apply to all Western/Israeli Far Left.

[Hitch514]

The liberals that are the biggest zealots of Palestine have nothing to say about Kurdistan. When democracratic states defend themselves against Islamic fundamentalists (Hamas) it's a war crime. When dictators commit genocide on secular muslims (Kurds) there is silence. Fuck Liberals.

[MrWsla1]

Interesting how he dismisses criticisms of the pope as 'left-wing nonsense' with no acknowledgment to those of us who opposed the state visit, because we were against the support a of a man who saw us all as immoral and considers contraception to be worse than AIDS. But then again, those opinions are just political correctness gone mad aren't they? Of course, us silly liberals need take our heads out of the clouds and just agree to disagree with all fundamentalist influences.

[stevenpaddybwoy]

@MrWsla1 The day i see a bunch of liberals protesting out side the east london "hate nest" mosque or counter demonstrating a pro sharia demonstration is the day i execpt the liberals as something more than trotskie england haters.

[1afrowolf]

@MrWsla1 He was referring to anti-Islamist people who feel they need also criticise the Pope in order to not be seen as racists; he was not saying it's nonsense to criticise the Pope.

[ceejaywt]

@1afrowolf people criticize the pope because of his stance on condems and his SHELTERING of peodphile preasts. This is causing the death of millions. People need to tesist the pope.

[123backinyerface]

Wow that was two powerful statements made in this video, I applaud both of them.

[lakshmimittal]

I have said exactly the same as Douglas Murray: immigration is a separate issue from extremism.

[CMTours732]

@lakshmimittal Do you think? You think Muslim immigration has had nothing to do with the growth of Islamic extremism/fundamentalism?

[lakshmimittal]

@CMTours732 I mean most Muslims are not extremists, and so having immigrants enter the UK is not the real issue. We have to focus on asking why certain (predominantly) young men feel drawn towards militant Islam.

[atomicKeeyu]

all you guys got from this is that you needed to have a argument about communism?

amazing...

[williamtuohy]

No lecture on liberalism?

[williamtuohy]

How inspiring, however you'll take note that I was mocking your naming me as being a Marxist and Liberal. Hence the "please make your mind up", I wasn't actually a Liberal and then a Marxist and then a Liberal, I never said I was either, but you know what, I'll drop the bomb shell, I am a liberal! But don't worry, rest assured I'm not a Marxist! Obviously communism is a stupid doctrine these days, again you've proved that you can only avoid the real topic at hand, to try and score points.

[williamtuohy]

Your good at missing the point . Firstly I'm a Liberal, then a Marxist, then a Liberal again, please make up your mind. You don't even know the fucking difference. All you can do is generalise and make ridiculous conclusions from, and I do sympathise, your unfortunate circumstances regarding the religion. I can see why your so full of hate, but you can't continue to perpetuate such hate against an entire religion, I won't call you racist as you'll cry, but it appears a little bit like that.

[CMTours732]

@williamtuohy Ah, so you're a vulgar Marxist. Is there any point discussing anything with somebody who is ideologically driven?

[williamtuohy]

@CMTours732 Alright your obviously both too thick to realise I'm not actually a Marxist and that I am not actually driven by any particular ideology. Do you not think it's quite pathetic that this all you can do, when someone criticises you you just call them a Marxist or a Liberal, as if each is inherently bad, you do this to avoid argument, but you can't argue, because your position is without any good reasoning. But if there was ever anything inherently bad, it'd be the views you seek to work

[CMTours732]

@williamtuohy You said you're a liberal and a Marxist. Marxism is a theory and Communism is it's practical application. Communism is not just inherently bad, it is inherently evil. Marxists try to explain everything in the world through their own Marxist ideological framework. Thus the conclusions are already written - it is just a matter of making the facts fit. Everything is reduced to class struggle - nothing else matters. It is a vulgar doctrine, and anybody who follows it today is stupid.

[mendelbot]

@CMTours732 I agree with you, but with the caveat that social justice (not the political meaning) implies principles that many people can stand behind.

I agree with the sincere young reds, that a poor person should have opportunities for advancement. What I do not agree with is the fantasy these opportunities should be proffered regardless of lifestyle and work habits. Similarly, Muslims who will integrate should be treated respectfully, just as Islamists should be scorned.

[blogspotKitmanTV]

a part of murrays answer was cut out - wonder what that might have been?

[edlpirateradio]

Douglas Murray is a far-right liberal trying to divide the edl and the bnp

[williamtuohy]

@edlpirateradio Liberals think, they don't react like your blind reactionary hateful bullshit. Other than that racist fuck Wilders, this is as close as you'll get for any decent representation for your gross ideals. The EDL are a disenfranchised group of football hooligans who don't even understand the point of the EDL. In response you can only assume those against you are UAF idiots. Ultimately your generalisation on Islamic people is gross, they are not all advocaters of shariah law.

[edlpirateradio]

@williamtuohy Liberals dont think, Liberals FEEL. read Dr Michael Savage (Banned by your liberal fascist regime from Britain) "Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder" And also buy yourself a prayer mat.

[williamtuohy]

@edlpirateradio Lol, I'm an Atheist, tragically, so there's no need for that. And perhaps the problem with you people is that you don't feel, never mind thinking. You are bitter unpleasant lost people who project hate onto the world, fostering violence and extremism. Please, please learn that liberal and fascist are contradictory terms and the book you refer to is hilariously bad, with this chap ill defining Liberal to suit his fascist and far right agenda. Nothing he says is of any credibility.

[edlpirateradio]

@williamtuohy Yes it is tragic you are an atheist. But then we cant all be blessed. The Islamists will slughter you like dogs once you have served their agenda.

[williamtuohy]

@edlpirateradio Haha and how am I serving their agenda? I condemn terrorist acts as much anyone, and am naturally wary of Islamic extremism, but your talking as if we live is Saudi Arabia, the vast majority of Muslims in this country are not extremists, they are here legitimately and are British citizens. And tragic that I'm an Atheist lol , I have respect for faith, but personally I think it's blind faith, and definitely a construct needed for someone who holds the hateful views you do.

[edlpirateradio]

@williamtuohy This will be Saudi Arabia very soon my dear. Hope you signed the petition to build the Supemosqe down the road? O no, I'm sorry your a middle class git who does not have to avoid certain streets lest the religion of peace beat the crap out of you. Now be a good boy and continue to say your prayers as laid doewn by Trotsky/Adorno and define everyone who opposes your rotten, corrupt and morally corrupting regime as 'racist and fascist and Islamophobic'

[williamtuohy]

@edlpirateradio Because Trotsky and Adorno were massive Liberals. Please look up what a Liberal is, and then what left wing is. I wonder how many times you've rehearsed what you just said. I never said Islam was a religion of peace, in fact I believe quite the contrary in many respects, however what I am opposed to are the methods in which you think your firstly justified in ridding our country of a religion, and then the ridiculousness nature in which you generalise about the entire religion.

[edlpirateradio]

@williamtuohy You see, typical liberal, everything you said I said is an invention. Quote me the text.

[CMTours732]

@williamtuohy You're talking rubbish. 'Racist fuck Wilders' - ridiculous!

[lakshmimittal]

@edlpirateradio Sounds like a good idea to me, better than bringing them together!

[HolteEnder85]

Not a truer word spoken.