Rabbi Shmuley - Idea City 2007 - Part 2

[qwerty42a000000]

That was so full of nonsense it's unbelievable.

[klye4583]

why have they not uploaded RD's rubuttle to this? They must not want anyone to see it... cowards...

[jontibloom]

Chimpanzees have social codes. They need these, as do we, in order to live in a society. Humans are more sophisticated so our social rules are more complex but basically they are the same with the same end in mind , social harmony. Yet surprisingly there is NO Chimpanzee Bible telling them what to do and what not to do. We dont need a God to structure an hormonious society.

[Ezra1Jesus1Disciple]

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[HolyknightVader999]

@Blackdoofy He hated both Christianity and Judaism, but loved radical Islam (not the lovey-dovey Islam) and atheism. Those Crusader and Islamic forces killed thousands. Hitler, Stalin and Mao, all three antireligious, all three killed millions.

Hitler 12 million

Stalin 20 million

Mao 40 million

[Inannawhimsey]

People tend to get hung up on words, so they say 'Chair' and think that that object over there is a chair, independent of themselves. Thus with 'G_d' as well.

[Inannawhimsey]

Rabbi Shmuley's arguments point towards, no matter what we call ourselves, 'atheist' or 'agnostic' or 'Hindu' or 'Scientologist', there is never a belief where we can stop taking responsibility for the meaning and purpose that we create and our own actions. That this whole 'G_d' concept is just people recognizing that we all are interconnected, that life is better if we are mindful of how we operate and how the world operates, to agape one another, and to hold this to be True, no matter what.

[peacemaker571]

shmuley you are the first jew after jesus i know and love sooo much

(muslim islamabad pakistan)

[ketrel815]

Dawkins compared this speech to a speech Hitler gave. On his website on Holocaust remembrance day.

Reductio_ad_Hitlerum fallacy

Richard also denied this debate at all.

[AresRoar]

@ketrel815 No he didn't, he said that the delivery was in the style of Hitler i.e. emotional, loud and lacking content. A sentiment I echo, in rational debate that sort of debate style is not allowed, and that is the debating culture Richard is from.

As for the second point I don't know about that.

[ImSorryOfficer]

I loved his show "Shalom in the Home". I miss it, and I wondered what happened to it?

[dumbass22333]

He's funny and seems to be a likeable guy, but his arguments seem to be rather weak.

[bunimonibu]

hitler had a mustache.

stalin had a mustache.

thus, people with mustaches are mass murderers, and facial hair is evil.

ergo, rabbi shmuley is evil

[deanj59]

@bunimonibu Damn, and I thought Magnum PI was a good show. Time to do some self reflecting.

[myironlungca]

And that old gem ... Hitler was an atheist. Total gibberish.

[HolyknightVader999]

@myironlungca he was a neo-pagan ex-catholic.

[myironlungca]

Tpyical rubbish. Goes from sounding half intellgient into a rant into lies about the animal kingdom.

[SuperAlexrios]

hitler was gay

[rbone892]

aww man this guy is soooo wrong and delusional the therory of evolution is a therory but so is gravity there is no such thing as fact in science the funny thing that religion is even good enough to be a theory lol u have to be a total nut to believe that crazyness

[EdVidz]

This Rabbi respects the person of an adversary, doing so in a warm and humorous way. His own respect of the person of one atheist is unmistakeable.

The Rabbi says royalty, love, monogamy exemplify logical fictions; in actual practice they work. This from a religious man.

What are equivalent logical fictions which serve the non-religious person?

[affix8876]

People should listen with clear head and without any prejudgment. Thank goodness I've found this video. Evolution is not the Truth, it is a knowledge created by a limited capacity of our human brains. On the other hand, blind religion is also not useful. But our choice to be good, and kind, and peace and be the best that we can be, those are the values close to the Truth.

[brindos7]

This man is a liar.

[TiberiusDominus]

You two, Raelko and Jede are very immature. There is no reason to insult a man sharing his beliefs, why did you click the video with the rabbi's picture if you didn't want to hear what he had to say?

[raelko]

this rabbi is an idiot.

If god exists, and has idiots like him represented him, than I surely would rather go back to Zeus and Thot who at least used thunders and lightening, reason and words to represent them and not a bunch of mentally challenged idiots like this rabbi.

[jedediahd24]

Lastly, Rabbi Dipshit is wrong in saying that animals do not have conscious. I have seen little evidence to attest to that. Chimpanzee and Bonobo social behavior is earily like our own. They laugh, cry, love, morn and many other things just as we do. There are even birds that mourn the death of a fellow bird.

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[jedediahd24]

Also Rabbi Dipshit here clearly doesn't know what it takes for something to be a called a scientific theory. Does the theory of gravity rings any bells? How about the theories of general relativity and special relativity. Scientific theories are synonymous with laws and are proven by facts. A theory is wholly more powerful than and fact.

[jedediahd24]

"You are an animal and you cant control your destiny"

A sad and narrow minded view of the beauty and elegance that is evolution. Yes we are primates. We are essentially mobile super computers. We are slaves to our genes. However it is well within all of that to be able to make choices that can go against our instincts. Even Dawkins has said so in The Selfish Gene (If I remember correctly). It is not outside evolution to love or anything else. Our sense of empathy was built in BY evolution.

[shinesthrudarain]

@jedediahd24 u are not educated on science. evolution has been disproven many times over. ill debate you if u want. a blog?

[jedediahd24]

@shinesthrudarain I am not a biologist no, I'm studying to be an aerospace engineer. Engineering is more like applied science. I just happen to enjoy biology and do some pleasure reading in the subject. Evolution has not been "disproven" with any great effect that I have noticed. We can "debate" here. No one has watched this in months. First question, are you a young or old earth creationist or ID advocate or what?

[ChristianMission]

This man talks about love, compassion, discovering our own destiny & you call him an idiot? Yet you worship men who say we're nothing but animals whose future is predetermined by genes? You call the latter "smart?" All they do is cover up their prejudices and dogma in the language of science. They provide people with a justification for wrongs, for evil - the genocides, the racism, adultery, etc because for the atheist morality is subjective. For many, it is even a hinderance to human progress.

[pickwickthesecond]

Weird... This guy spends several minutes giving exactly the same speech, word for word, decibel modulation for decibel modulation, pitch for pitch, as he did during a debate with Christopher Hitchens. It reminds one of Alan Keyes' presentation style: rehearsed, repeated performance rather than honest engagement of and with new ideas.

[BlizBob]

Imagine if they would have had rifles, machineguns, artillery, tanks, bombers, fighters, flamethroughers, atomic bombs, submachineguns, ect. ect. during the crusades?

Besides once again in vain one must point out that atheism does not tell you to kill. Stalin was power hungry paranoid murderer. He would not have cared less wether the ideology that would raise him to power was atheistic or not.

Only power mattered to him.

[YinHoNg]

Don't listen to the other comments. This guy is clearly talking sense if you listen properly.

All the others are in denial.

[griefingtons]

What a cretin. As if there is a league table of murders committed by atheists or religous people?

Mankinds traits are diverse in all areas. The difference with atheists is they don't believe in the invisible all watching power in the sky. For which there is not one iota of evidece.

[joesimki]

fucking idiot

[esperanza31288]

wasnt hitler roman catholic?

[shubidubar]

Creationism is the same as evolution? just a matter of semantics?

how about the fact that one has solid scientific evidences and the other one comes from REVELATIONS written by several people 2000 years ago?

i spit on your face

[ExtremeMetalShredder]

Rabbi, you know so much about nothing at all.

[StruhDaehYm]

Theologists do have a point there with defending objective ethics by the excesses of modernist materialist philosophies like logical positivism and marxism. As much as I disagree with the nescessity of theist belief systems, I abhor the vulgar atheist crowd represented on this board. They're giving a bad name to atheism.

[andflygh]

How can lack of knowledge invoke such amount of claim of knowledge?

[HOD0R]

what an idiot

[alltwisty]

He seemed so sweet in Part One ... and then he just went to Crazytown.

[bcn533]

He sounds like a fuckin preacher. What you're hearing is a rant by an ignorant and deeply immoral man.

[StruhDaehYm]

Holy f&ck how can you appeal to morals you silly man? That's what preaching is.

[bcn533]

Yeah, preachers have an exclusive claim to morality, real bright man.

[StruhDaehYm]

Well, you are one.

[Nekosudachi]

this dude should keep his head in his ass.

[BLS335533]

This guy is a walking logical fallacy

[StruhDaehYm]

^ And that, children, is a rocket scientist.

[maurieer]

Why is this god referred to as "he"?

This god evolved from all the gods man created throughout the ages for every conceivable reason he couldn`t understand.

It stands to reason that man, in his arrogance, created this god in man`s own image and referred to it as "he".

The story was turned around in the bible to state that it was god who created man in god`s own image. This was done to make man`s creation of god more believable in order for man and the church to control their believers.

[ubermusico]

Connie4195 wrote:

How strange that people are posting comments about this guy's voice! Sure it ain't great, but it's just him being passionate. By the way, ladies, he wrote a book called "Hating Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex."

[polyzygote]

just another brainwashed religious loudmouth moron

[gar137]

duh-h-h-h-h, yeah...you ams right. I hate them god-folk! Let's wipe 'em out like that hitler feller.

[polyzygote]

hitler was a roman catholic, but then i'm not really sure what you are trying (so hard) to say, are you?

[gar137]

Yikes! I feel like I'm dealing with a Scientologist! What else do you know about me? If you happen to know where I left my underwear please let me know. As for good ol' Schicklgruber, he was Roman Catholic in name only. He may have been raised by Catholic parents but as a young adult he eschewed Mass and the sacraments. In fact, he leaned more toward the Muslim religion because of its martial appeal. It's too bad that we had this spat, sweetie, I thought we would be BFF's.

[polyzygote]

right, by name only, just like the countless other roman catholics in bed with the nazis both before and after the war. judging by your profile (and in consultation with my voodoo doll), i can see why you would think so. A+ for effort though :)

[gar137]

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[blampow]

Gould "totally disagreed" with Dawkins - he believed in gradual evolution and not punctuated equilibrium! TOTAL DISAGREEMENT.

Do you know why Hitchens/Dawkins object to religion? Because it says people can choose. And Hitchens/Dawkins ... hate ... choice?

I think Shmuley just hopes people will forget how his sentences start and be carried along on sheer volume.

Also - 01:45 - BECOME POSSIBLE GIVEN ENOUGH TIME = Hitler voice.

[ubermusico]

my comments are being censored.

[ScarletandCreme32]

Boteach sure is thick.

[connie4195]

That you can choose every day to be either angel or animal is merely quoting Boteach in this video. You do this either on a macro-scale (supporting unjust war) or micro-scale (interpersonal). Okay, even religious screw it up means even they choose to be animals sometimes...obviously... there is no disputing this. We seem to be somewhere between angel and an animal.

Many comments posted here are disrespectful. Name-calling is hateful.

[ubermusico]

connie-

the idea of choosing to angel or animal did not originate with Boteach-or judaism.

If you've read this board, you know I spent several posts cataloging the deliberate lies Boteach utters in the first 90 seconds of his diatribe.

Don't care what is in the rest of the video-

don't have to eat the entire egg to know it's rotten.

calling a liar out with specific refutations isn't hate speech.

[connie4195]

Spare us the hate speech.

[ubermusico]

connie-

anyone who disagrees with you is engaging in

'hate speech' ?

please.

[connie4195]

What's not to love about having choices... I mean who really thinks they are just a pathetic victim of some genetic mutation that could just as easily have gone the other way? Marxist athetists HAVE killed more people than anybody else. If you believe murder is wrong, you still have a moral conscience... so you can choose every day to be an "angel or animal," on a macro-scale or micro-scale. Okay, even religious screw it up... they ain't God and they know it. We're all somewhere in between.

[ubermusico]

connie-

your characterization of evolution as-

"...just a pathetic victim of some genetic mutation that could just as easily have gone the other way..."

is comically uninformed.

Do some study-you will avoid public embarrassment in the future.

Aside from Pol Pot-and we're not entirely sure there-what 'marxist atheist' killed in the name of atheism ? The genocide of native americans-north and south-must be laid squarely at the feet of catholicism.

cont

[ubermusico]

cont for connie-

Your last 3 sentences meander and make no point that I can see after several readings.

[vegansquared]

I think this proves that a piece of the brain is located in the foreskin.

[comatose603]

This guy yells to much, he's obviously clueless about biology and makes up for it by yelling. Read a college level textbook on evolutionary biology before you open your big mouth on the subject. Oy!

[sokklei]

Stand-up comedian? He must be! not good though.

[tahustvedt]

Is Schmuley illiterate or something?

Anyone who thinks evolution is a belief system is a deluded boob.

[lordzeno666]

What an angry shrieking ranter. If you can't even explain something calmly, then you've already lost.

Why does he treat such a weighty topic as if he's doing an infomercial selling magical sponges that soak up impressive amounts of liquid?

Kinda reminds me how Hitler would deliver his message. Shouty and ranty. What a loon.

[oligrausema]

I am quite amazed by the lack of skill of some to analize something in a logical way.

I have never heard this guy before, and let me say his position is logically flawless.

I will search books of this guy...

[ubermusico]

oli-

logically flawless ?

surely you jest.

He has borrowed most of the canards the christian creationists have been using for years.

It is not only not logical to say Hitler was motivated by Darwin-it is a shameless lie.

and that is just the most blatant example of illogic.

[AishRoss]

Which canards? Which Christians?

And in regards to Hitler: Did you read Mein Kampf? Did you read the table talks?

Which points were illogic? If it is a lie, then the lie substantiates his claim, and therefore logical, and if its the truth, again, it is both logical and truthful. And how would you then understand Hitlers view of ethnic cleansing?

[ubermusico]

AishRoss-

Have you read this board ?

In only the first minute and a half he resurrects the deliberate obfuscation of the scientific meaning of the word 'theory'-a specialty of the "Discovery" Institute hacks,

The answersingenesis quote mining lie that S J Gould 'totally disagreed' with Dawkins and threw in the additional lie that paleo anthropologists of Gould's stature agreed with him.

cont

[AishRoss]

Gould was a proponent of punctuated equilibrium, an evolutionary theory which rejects Dawkins view of Evolution, which is based on phyletic gradualism.  Gould rejected Dawkins claim largely because of the dearth of extinct species within the fossil record. I do not understand how that is a lie to summarize Goulds work?

Please be more specific as to what and how were the scientific meanings obfuscated.

[ubermusico]

Ross-

I know who Gould was-I was reading his columns in Natural History magazine as he first proposed PE. The lie is in implying that PE is a rejection of natural Selection when it is in fact a refinement of it.

And then there is that word 'totally'.

Btw-Gould later retreated from his revision of the TNS.

Darwin predicted there would be gaps in the fossil record-and any unbiased person of intelligence recognizes that fossilization is a rare event and would assume gaps to be the norm.

[ubermusico]

cont for Ross-

He went on to say we have 'dug up the whole world' and haven't found transitional fossils-

a pet fib of the Creation 'Research' Institute,

As any number of creationist apologists have done in recent years he goes on to equate accepting scientific evidence with the 'belief'-in the same sense that the religious accept fairy tales without proof.

after this monumental tally of untruths in just 60 seconds he then throws in the straw man that Dawkins said given 'enough time'-

cont

[AishRoss]

No one thinks that Boteach is literal when he asserts the whole world was dug up. He merely makes reference to Goulds assertion that a significant amount of the world has been dug up and unearthed, and the fossil record is lacking. If anything, he is putting into his own words Goulds assertion. So therefore Gould should then be categorized with those of the Creation Research Institute?

As a student of physics and engineering, I have no qualms with accepting that much of science is (cont.)

[ubermusico]

Ross-

Use of hyperbole is sloppy logic-and uhm-'no one' thinks he was being literal ? How would you know ? Gould said that ? Link please.

You are reversing the connection. CRI hacks quote mined Gould and took the quote out of context-Boteach did likewise-so Boteach-not Gould should be grouped with CRI.

try to follow.

[ubermusico]

cont for Ross-

anything can happen-

and to top it off, adds the deliberate or ignorant-take your pick-confusion of the history of life on earth with age of the earth and finally-and most comically-the age of the universe.

clear enough for you ?

and that is just in the first 90 seconds.

Not interested in reading Mein kampf-

and Hitler has been quote mined to death.

Two points-he considered himself to be doing 'god's' work-

cont.

[AishRoss]

cont for uber-

a belief system, in that we see how much physics itself evolves, old theories dropped for new ones, and old ones declared false or inaccurate (the model or view of an atom is an easy and well known example of this evolution).

The 'given enough time' is how he answers the difficulty in overcoming statistical issues, so I again do not understand the strawness of this man?

Which confusion? Which scientific misrepresentation was he specifically in violation of?

[ubermusico]

Ross-

'Which confusion? Which scientific misrepresentation was he specifically in violation of?'

Okay-Which of the 3 I mentioned

was he talking about ?

"given enough time anything can happen.." is a misquote/non quote, and an absurd straw man construction. Dawkins never said anything of the sort.

cont

[ubermusico]

cont for Ross-

Science as a belief system ?

The difference, Ross, is that science is always and cheerfully ready to accept revision in light of new evidence-

Religion fights revision by trying to fix facts around received opinion.

To equate the two attitudes is nonsense.

[ubermusico]

more for Ross-

-and was in the process of replacing the bible and the cross with the sword and

Mein Kampf-

in 1936 he established 'positive christianity' as a pagan state religion.

'...if it is a lie, then the lie substantiates his claim, and therefore logical, and if its the truth, again, it is both logical and truthful.'

So if he lied it means he's right and if didn't he's also right ?

that friend-

is some world class pretzel logic.

Shmuley would be proud.

[AishRoss]

I was confused by Hitlers quotes,for I also understood Hitler to believe he was doing Gds work as MartinLuther had intended it to be. A historian professor of mine saw an original manuscript of Luther's solution to the Jewishproblem. Only that Hitler took an extra step after enslavement, and exterminated.

logical does not mean correct. if one has a lie for an assumption, his conclusion can still be correct in logic, although false in truthfulness. no pretzel, merely thinking things through.

[ubermusico]

Ross-

many are confused by Hitler's many quotes concerning religion-he was an unstable madman.

and yes-Hitler's 'final solution' was historically rooted in centuries of European anti-semitism.

True-false premises generate logical but untrue conclusions. GIGO.

But logic may also often expose untruths.

[KevybhoyPoland]

Idiot

[andysterdam]

What a clown. He clearly thinks "theory" = "opinion." This hopeless buffoon doesn't realize that theory means in science, i.e. a set of facts, propositions, or principles analyzed in their relation to one another and used to explain phenomena. A "theory" is testable, falsifiable and based on evidence, unlike this rabbi-clown's non-arguments.

[AishRoss]

Which non arguments?  And which of these theories were tested and passed these tests?

[mejdrich]

This guy keeps claiming he debated Dawkins. Anyone actually find the damn debate? He claims it's on his page, but I can't find it. :P

[GabrielNeil21]

Ignorant, poorly thought-out, incorrect, and slanderous. He shreiks and shouts, in a really annoying way, he assumes free choice like all the rest of the theist fools, he equates lack of love and poor relationships to evolutionary theory and atheism.

Oh look and atheism is Marxist and Marxism is inherently authoritarian. What a horrible little slimeball.

[cypherphage]

this man clearly does not know a thing about evolution

[munkeyallin]

boteach is a fool..............

[DreadsideNubune]

I choose to vote this video 1 out of 5.

[szoregi]

Yes, the second part is even much worse than the first (and more Hitlerish). Why did they invite his ignorant fool in the first place to this event?

[grelnixar]

Crap, total and utter crap!

[ammonjerro47]

What a liar. Hitch and Dawkins dont focus exclusively on the creation. They focus more on the evils of religious behaviour. Animals aren't all barbarous and immoral. This guy is a retard and a crook.

[JoJeck]

robalolex you're right. This guy is a disgusting liar. A scheming calculated liar that is purposely misconstruing evolution and spreading it to ignorant people at a stunning decibel level. The louder he shouts the more true he must be...

Let's see who else did things like that?

[myironlungca]

@JoJeck 100% agree.

[robalolex]

Evolution is "only a theory, not a fact". For someone who spent years at Oxford University it is stunningly ignorant to use this kind of language. References to missing links etc... ye gads!)

I think this guy is bright, which is what makes his lies all the more disgusting. If instead he is just plain ignorant he shouldn't open his mouth about evolution.

Clearly 5 cans short of a six pack (which he did at least admit) :-)

[fountainsofsteve]

I think most of you missed the main point of his little speech here. Creation is a small part of religion and in Christianity according to Billy Graham scripture and science are not in dispute with each other. The point of religion is finding the meaning of our existence which all of us seek. If Dawkins is right, our life was merely a gene controlled, microscopic happening on Earth's timeline and something we will not have any recollection of. I'd rather not live with that belief.

[ubermusico]

steve-

'....and in Christianity according to Billy Graham scripture and science are not in dispute with each other. ...'

I feel so much better knowing that.

And who are you to distill Dawkins for us ?

Believe what ever you want-

just keep it out of my government-my schools-my courts of law.

[andysterdam]

So, in other words, you'd rather believe a lie. Have fun with your fantasy, as long as you keep it to yourself.

[Hugh7777]

I came here to see if he really does "shriek like Hitler", and it only took 1'24".

[LightninBoltz]

I feel bad about putting a one star on this video-I feel like I'm slighting the channel owner. Plus I think it's a good video, because it allows me to see how clearly this guy is a complete tool.

99.9 % of mutations are deleterious? Thats actually a really conservative number, but still-the point is that natural selection greatly amplifies the beneficial mutations.

Once again-what a tool.

[Tridhos]

"Evolution is only a theory" enough said, that is why this guy is such an idiot. How many times does this have to be corrected.

[lazypawn]

What an idiot. Doesn't know the most basic things about science or evolution and is full of lies. Horrible.

[mdhutton1949]

What an ignorant bullshitter...go on rant and rave for your god. And learn about science before you open your lying mouth again.

[RuthieWeLoveYou]

Just google

gould evolution

to see how stupid you are,what is the first result ?

The sad thing is you know your are BSing people.

[shaxanth27]

What an utter know-nothing fucking fool...(*looking thoughtful*)..."still the theory of evolution..." That's s far as I got before I had to abort for sanity. (Saw enough of this ignorant fuck when he debated Hitchens)

Liars for Jesus, Liars for Yahweh, Liars for Allah, they're all the same. God really keeps great company. Heaven's got to be the most fucked up place in any universe

[nrubdarb]

A silly man in a sillier hat.

[MorituriMax]

We know time exists, nobody has ever seen God.

[uberworm]

What a great speaker. I think he got it all right.

[ubermusico]

worm-

seriously ?

You're kidding I hope.

Musico

[connie4195]

How strange that people are posting comments about this guy's voice! Sure it ain't great, but it's just him being passionate. By the way, ladies, he wrote a book called "Hating Women: America's Hostile Campaign Against the Fairer Sex."

[ubermusico]

connie-

just scanned the book's preview on line-

seems he thinks the only thing holding women down is porn-

he is as clueless and biased on the subject of gender equality as he is willfully ignorant of evolution.

oh-

and his voice grates on me-especially when he is using it to lie.

[DeepSpaceBeans]

Why did they let this moron have the stage at Idea City? He clearly has no idea of science, evolution nor the disagreement between Dawkins and Gould. He succeeds at nothing but making himself look like an enormous fool in this video.

[freakscene225]

This guy is no better than a fundamentalist imam, hateful speech.

[benjaminXXII]

Actually no I lied. There is a great number of things I would like to say but it's midnight, and I cant help but get the feeling I'd just be repeating myself, again, and again... and again. But that's what we do, you and me, the guy who commented above, and everyone else. Because our very existence is a thorn in their side, forcing them to deal with a reality they dont want to, to justify themselves. But we're still here, repeating, coz thats what we do. And thats how we'll win.

[benjaminXXII]

oh for sods sake.

i have nothing else to say..

[RJE978]

What an embarassment. The fact that someone like this can have public influence in America rather than the ridicule they rightly deserve is scary. His ignorance and inanity, especially about evolution, are staggering and his style is every bit as bombastic and perhaps less coherent than Dinesh D'Souza (which is about the worst criticism I can make of anyone!)

[JimOfShatner]

Aside from his use of 'facts,' his central premise is wrong. Athiests have morality and aren't lust-crazed killers who see themselves as driven solely by their genes. Immorality is not an inevitable consequence of lack of religion. The twisting of facts for self aggrandisement and profit...now that's immoral.

[taichi86]

What an ignorant and hypochritical fool.

Hitchens completely destroyed him in a debate...

[quintusmessius]

Not a simple ignoramus, but a wilful liar.

[StewE17]

I think he is learning his technique from his extreme Christian counterparts: "evolution is just a theory", "Hitler and Stalin killed millions in the name of atheism", blah, blah. Also he complains about science — as well as misrepresenting it and exposing his ignorance about scientific facts — changing its estimates and conclusions in the light of newly emerging evidence. How dare science progress while religion stagnates in its pool of ignorance and superstition.

[rayabe]

charlantan............

[CelluloidLibrarian]

Wilfully ignorant, logically incoherent, entirely contemptible. Sigh.

[jyoung78]

"It used to be 4 billion, then it went to 10 billion, now we're at 14 billion, no doubt by the time my kids grow up, we will now say 30 billion!" Yeah, well, he needs to go back to school. The age of the earth has been held as 4.5 billion years since the 50s; the age of the universe is what has changed a bit.

[extliquani]

I feel Lawrence Krauss' pain at 4:26. Also, it's interesting to note that when Richard Dawkins remarked that Shmuley was "shrieking like Hitler" in this presentation, Shmuley cried that Dawkins should apologize. This is ironic as I don't think I've ever seen a religious apologist go 10 minutes without comparing atheists to Hitler (who himself saw the church as a cornerstone of Germanic society and got many of his antisemetic ideas from Martin Luther).

[extliquani]

Anyone with a tenth-grade education should be able to see through this nonsense.

[ambymacula]

How about this moral virtue. Knowing what your talking about before you pretend to.

[copernicus914]

I think a course in stochastic processes might do this guy some good... and maybe probability, statistical methods, research methods, chemistry, organic chemistry, biology, genetics, population mathematics, intro to logic, physics, astronomy, nuclear physics (the previous three to understand dating and distance approximating), geology, phenology, morphology, and taxonomy. In 10 minutes he perverted elements from all of these.

[mendelbot]

Wow, this guy doesn't know much about either biology nor about physics. He doesn't, for instance, seem to recognize the difference between the age of the earth and the age of the universe.

[Zamboro]

As a goy who appreciates his fair share of lovely Jewish girls and is deeply appreciative of the culture, this guy makes me cringe. He DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL JEWS. I hope everyone here knows that. I'm not saying they're all perfectly well reasoned, but the ones I know are a great deal more rational than this guy.

[robotaholic]

Science hasn't called it the "fact" of evolution???- Did he actually say that? - what an idiot! - we don't call it a fact of gravity - you know the argument bla bla bla

[Creationismsucks]

"conscience could never evolve 'cause it's not genetic"

So now he's a neurologist and a geneticist.

What a fuckwad.

[StruhDaehYm]

Theologists and enlightment philosophers like Kant indeed believed the conscience to be an objective moral institution. Thus a (benevolent) conscience cannot be explained by evolutionary game theory selfishness.

[JehovahsBastardChild]

Hitler found religion profoundly useful.

[StruhDaehYm]

But then Hitler was your average rightwing conservative. It's not that there weren't any secularist lefty maneaters.

[JediKnight1948]

Hitler was a socialist.

Nazism mean National Socialism.

[StruhDaehYm]

yeah right that was a jewish marxist undercover

[sbald82nd]

He wasn't at all an average rightwing conservative.

[StruhDaehYm]

ofcourse he was being backed by the church, the nobility, the industrials and the army.

[samlowry1971]

scoundrel

[ubermusico]

cont

he just had his own insane brand of the stuff. He considered himself to be doing 'god's' work.

Communism was a religion in all but name-confession-infallible leaders-you can fill in the details yourself, and persecution of religion was incidental to power struggles.

And we must count the genocide of the native americans against the theists-

Shame on you.

[ubermusico]

You do-as Dawkins said-get louder and more shrill the more nonsensical the point you are trying to drive home.

You understand nearly nothing about natural selection-you should do some reading.

And it was dishonest of you to replay the standard creationist litany of 'atheistic' mass murderers before backing away.

There are others who will soon post here I'm certain-who are better qualified as historians to make this point, but Hitler was ultra religious-

cont

[ubermusico]

Rabbi-

Who appointed you to distill the 'central message' of evolution ?

[tomclicker]

They've "dug up the whole world"???? Impossible, ignorant goof.

To find Tiktaalik, the crew had to dig during the ice-free summer months, which didn't last too long. Just think what we'll find when the arctic is ice-free...

[RuthieWeLoveYou]

and and for your info,Punctuated equilibrium has been discredited scientifically .

and I attended one of the debates Dawkins Vs Gould,Gould had nothing to say not Dawkins.

Anything to prove your point eh? Changing history,changing academic life of people,...chaning facts..

Where do YOU get your morality from ?

[RuthieWeLoveYou]

and and for your info,Punctuated equilibrium has been discredited scientifically .

and I attended one of the debates Dawkins Vs Gould,Gould had nothing to say not Dawkins.

Anything to prove your point eh? Changing history,changing academic life of people,...chaning facts..

Where do YOU get your morality ?

[RuthieWeLoveYou]

WOW,If you passed 10th grade science you would have already known theories never become facts,theories explain facts AND evolution is also a fact.

Since you like Steven J Gould google Gould+evolution+theory+fact

You need to be clarified.

Never humiliate yourself again by calling evolution"Just" a theory.

Atomic theory is also just a theory,say that to Hiroshima victims.

WOW,No wonder you lost the debate to dawkins last time.