They was a K-12 cable hoe at the 6th annual old construction & surface mining equipment show this past September. Plus a L dragline and a k-12 dragline
One has a cable hoe attachment and one has a crane boom attachment for use as a crane and/or dragline.
I have seen three or four k-12s with shovel fronts on them. Insley shovels is a rare find. I have been told around 200 or less Insleys left the factory with shovel front attachments on them. The olny difference in the main machine if it was a k-12 shovel would be the counter weight,
I think I gotcha. So the turret and engine and boom are the K-12, and the black piece can be switched with other accessories, like the bucket on a excavator today? so is a "cable hoe" like a dragline, except with a more "bulldozer blade" configuration? Like, it's for scraping things rather than scooping up dirt? I like the concept of one machine that can do several things. Versatility rocks
Several years ago a friend offered to sell me an older one for $4500, at some point would near trhe centerpin in the turret redone, but couldn't justify buying it.
Very nice clip, never seen a dragshovel before in the flesh so this is the next best thing. Is this an Insley model K12? I think another company called Smith Rodley was still offering rope/cable machines into the 1970's.
USE EITHER it can harm the engine if u use to much it destroys the engine but if u give it a 1-2 second shot of either it makes it fire so much quicker
Addicted to either? How is that? addictive personality? Naw, I'll bet you're right; if either really does damage the piston rings, it'll make the cylinders loose compression. If it's already hard to get the thing to fire, dropping the compression even a little will just make things worse. And every time you use it, it'd just burn the rings some more...the "addicted" metaphor really was accurate, huh? Like people who get hooked on drugs and need to take them to function until they die from it.
Primitive to today's models with air-conditioning, push-button and all- space age to the pioneers. This old beauty wasn't around very long after the steam shovel. Drop your hand shovels, boys, don't need 'em now.
True we have awesome machines to do our work, and we've made ginormous towers and ships and bridges and cities, but it's still more impressive to see something like the Panama Canal, dug by hand. Amazing what you can do with enough men to work at it. Just ants in the eyes of God, but when you're done you have a cathedral or the Pyramids, etc.
1960? the machine look much older to me. Liebherr and Atlas 1960's full hydraulic excavators did'nt look that much different campare to today's machines
That's one of the things I was wondering; I don't think you can flood a diesel, unless you REALLY flood it. A diesel doesn't worry about the fuel/air mixture like a gas engine. If you pump more fuel into a cylinder than the available oxygen can burn, it just sends the extra fuel out the exhaust. That's one of the reasons diesel dragsters smoke so much. The trick to diesel power is to push as much air as you can into the motor. You can burn as much fuel as you have air to burn, no "lean" mode.
Line machines continued in production alongside the new hydraulic machines for years. American continued building their model 750 shovel until at LEAST 1978, as did Northwest with the Model 6.
What do you mean "a flap at the bottom"? Are you talking about the shackle-thingy that transmits the force of a single cable to both sides of the shovel? (Kind of like the "whiffletree" that you use to hook two horses to one wagon) I thought at first it was a flap like the old steam-shovels had, but it's not. Other than that, all I can see of "twin-ended" is that the other end on the shovel is open, so you could reach down into a hole and scoop forwards and in an upstroke, to make a flat wall.
Wow I've been looking all over the internet just for a picture of one of these. What a bonus to see a video of one in action. Those things were the latest tech when I was a kid.
Back when you could actually understand how machines worked
SvenTheTerrible 2 years ago 5
They was a K-12 cable hoe at the 6th annual old construction & surface mining equipment show this past September. Plus a L dragline and a k-12 dragline
marion7200 2 years ago
So what is the difference between a K-12 cable hoe and a K-12 dragline? Or are they the same thing?
justforever96 2 years ago
One has a cable hoe attachment and one has a crane boom attachment for use as a crane and/or dragline.
I have seen three or four k-12s with shovel fronts on them. Insley shovels is a rare find. I have been told around 200 or less Insleys left the factory with shovel front attachments on them. The olny difference in the main machine if it was a k-12 shovel would be the counter weight,
marion7200 2 years ago
I think I gotcha. So the turret and engine and boom are the K-12, and the black piece can be switched with other accessories, like the bucket on a excavator today? so is a "cable hoe" like a dragline, except with a more "bulldozer blade" configuration? Like, it's for scraping things rather than scooping up dirt? I like the concept of one machine that can do several things. Versatility rocks
justforever96 2 years ago
Several years ago a friend offered to sell me an older one for $4500, at some point would near trhe centerpin in the turret redone, but couldn't justify buying it.
LinnTractorNut 2 years ago
Very nice clip, never seen a dragshovel before in the flesh so this is the next best thing. Is this an Insley model K12? I think another company called Smith Rodley was still offering rope/cable machines into the 1970's.
Thanks
balacau 3 years ago
damn, give it some grease, it won't squeak as much,
sniper152 3 years ago 7
give her a shot of either, it would have fired right up then!
TheFarmer2 3 years ago
I read that using ether to start diesels could damage them, do you do this? because if it can be done without doing any harm it sure does save time.
cyclonerotary 3 years ago
USE EITHER it can harm the engine if u use to much it destroys the engine but if u give it a 1-2 second shot of either it makes it fire so much quicker
p8ntballer97 2 years ago
it does cause harm and also it can get addicted to either as well which is not good
wealllovecheese 2 years ago
Addicted to either? How is that? addictive personality? Naw, I'll bet you're right; if either really does damage the piston rings, it'll make the cylinders loose compression. If it's already hard to get the thing to fire, dropping the compression even a little will just make things worse. And every time you use it, it'd just burn the rings some more...the "addicted" metaphor really was accurate, huh? Like people who get hooked on drugs and need to take them to function until they die from it.
justforever96 2 years ago
det var en fin gammal grävskopa. Har inte sett en sån på hur länge som helst
becky334 3 years ago
Cool! My son loved it!
ExcelIsFun 3 years ago
Fark. old schools.
dozer779 3 years ago
Sounds like a Perkins P4?
zstationuk 3 years ago
It´s a Volvo diesel.
Jobergg 3 years ago
Primitive to today's models with air-conditioning, push-button and all- space age to the pioneers. This old beauty wasn't around very long after the steam shovel. Drop your hand shovels, boys, don't need 'em now.
9682482 3 years ago
True we have awesome machines to do our work, and we've made ginormous towers and ships and bridges and cities, but it's still more impressive to see something like the Panama Canal, dug by hand. Amazing what you can do with enough men to work at it. Just ants in the eyes of God, but when you're done you have a cathedral or the Pyramids, etc.
justforever96 2 years ago
1960? the machine look much older to me. Liebherr and Atlas 1960's full hydraulic excavators did'nt look that much different campare to today's machines
jpsholland 3 years ago
Can u flood a diesel engine by cranking it like that?
arohn2007 3 years ago
That's one of the things I was wondering; I don't think you can flood a diesel, unless you REALLY flood it. A diesel doesn't worry about the fuel/air mixture like a gas engine. If you pump more fuel into a cylinder than the available oxygen can burn, it just sends the extra fuel out the exhaust. That's one of the reasons diesel dragsters smoke so much. The trick to diesel power is to push as much air as you can into the motor. You can burn as much fuel as you have air to burn, no "lean" mode.
justforever96 2 years ago 2
Line machines continued in production alongside the new hydraulic machines for years. American continued building their model 750 shovel until at LEAST 1978, as did Northwest with the Model 6.
jusportel 3 years ago
HELLO. Nice machine, is that the original stick or was it a shovel at one time. Phil
fairlanephil 3 years ago
no glow plugs back then?
GTRphile 3 years ago
how did they ever load trucks with these machines, when the bucket is fixed to the dipper stick ?
RenzeZielman 3 years ago
its got a release flap at the bottom, so its like a twin ended shovel!
turtles24601 3 years ago
What do you mean "a flap at the bottom"? Are you talking about the shackle-thingy that transmits the force of a single cable to both sides of the shovel? (Kind of like the "whiffletree" that you use to hook two horses to one wagon) I thought at first it was a flap like the old steam-shovels had, but it's not. Other than that, all I can see of "twin-ended" is that the other end on the shovel is open, so you could reach down into a hole and scoop forwards and in an upstroke, to make a flat wall.
justforever96 2 years ago
u think that guys turning it over enough? hes gonna fry the starter motor
tyzorg 3 years ago
it sounds like a croud in the back ground why does it take 50 people to start a track hoe
mackmodleR123 3 years ago
This was on a tractor show.
Jobergg 3 years ago
oh okay thanks for responding thanks bud
mackmodleR123 3 years ago
This was really cool to see how it was done back in the day
Whistledawgs 4 years ago
needs some ether
rigdigdiggy 4 years ago
wow this is really cool! my neighbor has one of thes that he digs his pond with! his has a gas motor in it tho!
dirtbikeracer40 4 years ago
Wow I've been looking all over the internet just for a picture of one of these. What a bonus to see a video of one in action. Those things were the latest tech when I was a kid.
at90percent 4 years ago 2
Little ether maybe...? wow
Altecss 4 years ago
petter put in a few new glow plugs! ether is bad for pistonrings!
blondiebigtits 4 years ago
Yep! but it goes well in your tea!
applecounty 3 years ago
was that a cow when it first fired? i heard a moo
sounds nice tho
s172mch 4 years ago
and i love the smoke from a diesel
tylnywachacz 4 years ago
He didn't give it much of a warmup!....
Wow! keep 'em coming... I love the sound!
d65fitzer 4 years ago
great video I love it love to see more. Neat seeing it start up. Love to see more videos like that.
newflyer500 4 years ago