@63c 'the Ira killed more Catholics than the British army.' Not sure what your point is here. At the end of the day the provos mostly British forces. This is a statistical fact found on Cain (university of ulster). Loyalists on the other hand killed 83% catholic civilians. Again, a statistical fact found on Cain. Loyalists were the bigger scumbags.
Loyalists did not claim to be nonsectarian.And would say their policy was to kill as many Catholics & Republicans as they could to put pressure on the IRA to call ceasefires.Which they did.
Killing any innocent is wrong though.
The IRAs claim of nonsectarianism is a lie & they carried out sectarian massacres of Innocent Protestants.
Point is,Republicans cry that Brits & Loyalists done this or that when Republicans killed over half as many Catholics as Loyalists.But say nothing.
@63gc Wh "Republicans killed over half as many Catholics as Loyalists." And your point is? The IRA didn't kill over religion. They didn't ask the religion of a soldier or RUC man before shooting. They targeted security forces because they were sucurity forces. They probably did kill lots of catholics in the process. But they are not fighting catholic war - they state their aims as republicans aim - and the Irish republican movement was founded by a protestant. Religion is immaterial.
When the IRA killed those in Kingsmill,La Mon House ,Balmoral Furniture Shop,etc
They did so knowing & wanting those they killed to be just Protestant. Sectarian.
When the IRA killed Robert McCartney, Andrew Kearney, Paul Quinn etc. They did so knowing they had killed just Catholics. Doing so to instill fear & to control that community. Not Sectarian.
Only those who read the SF Children Guide Book To Republicanism think any different.
@63gc Did you actually know that Le Mon had two botched bomb warnings? The IRA apologised for Le Mon - it was fairly obvious that they didn't intend any casulaties for that attack - it was a commercial target. You can read up on it in Wikipedia. I do agree that Kingsmill was blatantly sectarian and was an act of mass murder.
Are you prepared to condemn the indiscrimate slaughter of catholics from the loyalist side?
I have no problem condemning the deaths of innocent people. Be it Catholic or Protestant.
As for Wikipedia.
The Protestant Unionist Loyalist Community would say that Wiki is one sided.And having seen excuses that are put on it for Republican Massacres like La Mon House,I would tend to agree.
Bottom line is,they knew only Protestants attended these places,when they attacked them.And sorry doesnt bring these innocents back.Just as it doesnt bring back the Catholics the IRA slaughered.
Wikipedia has references - the references themselves are the verifiable information that you should be looking for, not just the wikipedia page. Wikipedia pages are as reliable as the references at the bottom of the page in question. The majority of IRA bombs came with bomb warnings - even in Protestant areas - many with no civlian casualities. As for the IRA slaughtering catholics - I can assure you it is nowhere near the 750 'taigs' deliberatley slaughtered by loyalist death squads.
Republicans Killed 447 Catholics , 981 Protestants ,629 Not From Northern Ireland
Loyalists Killed 728 Catholics , 234 Protestants , 57 Not From Northern Ireland
British Security Forces Killed 303 Catholics,49 Protestants,17 Not From N Ireland.
And Im sure the families of all those Catholics,you can call them taigs if you want,i wont, murdered by the IRA would call those that came to kill them ,Death Squads too.
@63gc I don't call them 'taigs' - that is what Loyalists call them - and why I used inverted commas. In what context were these Catholics killed? And can you provide a reference please?
Repulicans Killed 447 Catholics , 981 Protestants ,629 Not From Northern Ireland
Loyalists Killed 728 Catholics , 234 Protestants , 57 Not From Northern Ireland
British Security Forces Killed 303 Catholics,49 Protestants,17 Not From N Ireland.
They where killed for a wide range of reasons.Republicans will say they where securtity force members.Catholics Andrew Kearney,Paul Quinn,Robert McCartney or even Bernard Taggart among many more where not.
gerry adams is a bought and paid for gobshite who should change his name to gerry fitt . martin mcguinness should flush homself down the toilet .Dirty rotten collaborators being paid millions a year by the British to administer British rule .
Im an irish republican and gerry & marty are traitors and touts and then some, How come Gerry can say "killed" and not the ever-so-common "murdered"??? If he is against and or wants the grass-roots to tout on the gunmen, Fuck you gerry ya bastard i hope you choke on a shotgun one day, Remmember Michael Collins you cunt, Goes for marty too!
It is because of republican appeasement that these young soldiers & the policeman is dead.Our goverment set about with their republican appeasement policy.Taking our security forces out .Leaving these terror groups space to grow .These deaths are the outcome of that policy ,a policy which the DUP are happy to carry on with.Lets not forget all those that died at the hand of Sinn Fein ira.
the uda uvf and britisha rym killed 1000 civilians in teh troubles they did nothing wrong, we are only killing people who shouldnt be her in the first palce
The IRA killed more Catholics than any Britsih army over the last 35yrs.Thats a fact. We are only killing people who shouldnt be here you state.Tell that to the families of those slaughtered in Omagh. .Your lucky i even bothered to reply to such rubbish.
the rira never meant to kill anyone, all bombs planted in public places always came with warnings,except some dumbass couldnt understand what ''theres a bomb in the bomb of the street, move everyone to the courthouse'', the police did the exact opposite, so its not all to blame on the rira. and all catholics killed by the ra were bombs with warnings, except the army wouldnt pass them on so it would make the ra look like bad guys
Tell that to Robert McCartney ,Andrew Kearney,Paul Quinn and countless other Catholic families whos loved ones WERE NOT butchered in bombs. But by republican murder gangs.Simply for standing up to the local republican bully-boy gangs.I find it hard to imagine how stupid you must be to believe the rubbish you write.
well well was I surprised to see that on the news and later Mc Guiness calling the RIRA and CIRA traitors. Strange days indeed, takes me back to 1970 when the "Officials" went political and were classed as traitors by the provies. History repeating itself ?...again. Maybe behind closed doors some deal was done e.g "Martin..you deal with these cunts or we fucking will" and no cryingabout it if we do.
@63c 'the Ira killed more Catholics than the British army.' Not sure what your point is here. At the end of the day the provos mostly British forces. This is a statistical fact found on Cain (university of ulster). Loyalists on the other hand killed 83% catholic civilians. Again, a statistical fact found on Cain. Loyalists were the bigger scumbags.
quiggzify 4 months ago
@quiggzify
Loyalists did not claim to be nonsectarian.And would say their policy was to kill as many Catholics & Republicans as they could to put pressure on the IRA to call ceasefires.Which they did.
Killing any innocent is wrong though.
The IRAs claim of nonsectarianism is a lie & they carried out sectarian massacres of Innocent Protestants.
Point is,Republicans cry that Brits & Loyalists done this or that when Republicans killed over half as many Catholics as Loyalists.But say nothing.
63gc 4 months ago
@63gc Wh "Republicans killed over half as many Catholics as Loyalists." And your point is? The IRA didn't kill over religion. They didn't ask the religion of a soldier or RUC man before shooting. They targeted security forces because they were sucurity forces. They probably did kill lots of catholics in the process. But they are not fighting catholic war - they state their aims as republicans aim - and the Irish republican movement was founded by a protestant. Religion is immaterial.
quiggzify 4 months ago
@quiggzify
When the IRA killed those in Kingsmill,La Mon House ,Balmoral Furniture Shop,etc
They did so knowing & wanting those they killed to be just Protestant. Sectarian.
When the IRA killed Robert McCartney, Andrew Kearney, Paul Quinn etc. They did so knowing they had killed just Catholics. Doing so to instill fear & to control that community. Not Sectarian.
Only those who read the SF Children Guide Book To Republicanism think any different.
Republicanism Wrapped Around Gangsterism.
63gc 3 months ago
@63gc Did you actually know that Le Mon had two botched bomb warnings? The IRA apologised for Le Mon - it was fairly obvious that they didn't intend any casulaties for that attack - it was a commercial target. You can read up on it in Wikipedia. I do agree that Kingsmill was blatantly sectarian and was an act of mass murder.
Are you prepared to condemn the indiscrimate slaughter of catholics from the loyalist side?
quiggzify 3 months ago
@quiggzify
I have no problem condemning the deaths of innocent people. Be it Catholic or Protestant.
As for Wikipedia.
The Protestant Unionist Loyalist Community would say that Wiki is one sided.And having seen excuses that are put on it for Republican Massacres like La Mon House,I would tend to agree.
Bottom line is,they knew only Protestants attended these places,when they attacked them.And sorry doesnt bring these innocents back.Just as it doesnt bring back the Catholics the IRA slaughered.
63gc 3 months ago
Wikipedia has references - the references themselves are the verifiable information that you should be looking for, not just the wikipedia page. Wikipedia pages are as reliable as the references at the bottom of the page in question. The majority of IRA bombs came with bomb warnings - even in Protestant areas - many with no civlian casualities. As for the IRA slaughtering catholics - I can assure you it is nowhere near the 750 'taigs' deliberatley slaughtered by loyalist death squads.
quiggzify 3 months ago
@quiggzify
Republicans Killed 447 Catholics , 981 Protestants ,629 Not From Northern Ireland
Loyalists Killed 728 Catholics , 234 Protestants , 57 Not From Northern Ireland
British Security Forces Killed 303 Catholics,49 Protestants,17 Not From N Ireland.
And Im sure the families of all those Catholics,you can call them taigs if you want,i wont, murdered by the IRA would call those that came to kill them ,Death Squads too.
63gc 3 months ago
@63gc I don't call them 'taigs' - that is what Loyalists call them - and why I used inverted commas. In what context were these Catholics killed? And can you provide a reference please?
quiggzify 3 months ago
@quiggzify
Im a Loyalist & Dont.
Repulicans Killed 447 Catholics , 981 Protestants ,629 Not From Northern Ireland
Loyalists Killed 728 Catholics , 234 Protestants , 57 Not From Northern Ireland
British Security Forces Killed 303 Catholics,49 Protestants,17 Not From N Ireland.
They where killed for a wide range of reasons.Republicans will say they where securtity force members.Catholics Andrew Kearney,Paul Quinn,Robert McCartney or even Bernard Taggart among many more where not.
63gc 2 months ago
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FreeIreland18 2 years ago
gerry adams is a bought and paid for gobshite who should change his name to gerry fitt . martin mcguinness should flush homself down the toilet .Dirty rotten collaborators being paid millions a year by the British to administer British rule .
kbcmighty 2 years ago
Im an irish republican and gerry & marty are traitors and touts and then some, How come Gerry can say "killed" and not the ever-so-common "murdered"??? If he is against and or wants the grass-roots to tout on the gunmen, Fuck you gerry ya bastard i hope you choke on a shotgun one day, Remmember Michael Collins you cunt, Goes for marty too!
conr16 2 years ago 4
Crocodile tears, how strange!
sodaman1920 3 years ago
How fucking bizzare that 10 years ago sinn fein would have justified this! As you say 24918433, hypicritical two faced murdering bastards!
RUC17987 3 years ago
It is because of republican appeasement that these young soldiers & the policeman is dead.Our goverment set about with their republican appeasement policy.Taking our security forces out .Leaving these terror groups space to grow .These deaths are the outcome of that policy ,a policy which the DUP are happy to carry on with.Lets not forget all those that died at the hand of Sinn Fein ira.
63gc 3 years ago
the uda uvf and britisha rym killed 1000 civilians in teh troubles they did nothing wrong, we are only killing people who shouldnt be her in the first palce
keveydaking 2 years ago
The IRA killed more Catholics than any Britsih army over the last 35yrs.Thats a fact. We are only killing people who shouldnt be here you state.Tell that to the families of those slaughtered in Omagh. .Your lucky i even bothered to reply to such rubbish.
63gc 2 years ago
the rira never meant to kill anyone, all bombs planted in public places always came with warnings,except some dumbass couldnt understand what ''theres a bomb in the bomb of the street, move everyone to the courthouse'', the police did the exact opposite, so its not all to blame on the rira. and all catholics killed by the ra were bombs with warnings, except the army wouldnt pass them on so it would make the ra look like bad guys
keveydaking 2 years ago
Tell that to Robert McCartney ,Andrew Kearney,Paul Quinn and countless other Catholic families whos loved ones WERE NOT butchered in bombs. But by republican murder gangs.Simply for standing up to the local republican bully-boy gangs.I find it hard to imagine how stupid you must be to believe the rubbish you write.
63gc 2 years ago
well well was I surprised to see that on the news and later Mc Guiness calling the RIRA and CIRA traitors. Strange days indeed, takes me back to 1970 when the "Officials" went political and were classed as traitors by the provies. History repeating itself ?...again. Maybe behind closed doors some deal was done e.g "Martin..you deal with these cunts or we fucking will" and no cryingabout it if we do.
joedredd13215 3 years ago
fuck me Gerry, you said that with a straight face.you hypicritical two faced murdering bastard !
24918433 3 years ago 2