Definitely my favorite version, and my favorite cast. Dalton is so smoldering. I never found him at all attractive until I saw him as Rochester, now I wonder what was wrong with me. Guh.
It might have to do with sound quality in your computer; English is my fifth language (in chronological order anyway) but I have no problem to hear what the actors say.
Timothy is georgeous as allways; of course, I'm a great admirer of Timothy, although not only because of his classic beauty and sexy voice: I actually can not name any other actor with Timothy's potential to express such diversity of emotions.
I have always enjoyed older stories.Even though I am only in my early twenties what entertainment has created in the last number of years,I abhor the "newer" romance.Swearing,nudity is not my taste.My parents raised me to be Godly in all my ways along with my brothers.When one has these older films one rarely has to rent and besides all this,I can't really stand movie stores because there is hardly anything that is "Decent" anymore.
WOW FANTASTIC! It is the only film that reproduce that scene as it was in my mind reading the book!! look at the shadows! rochester's face is always in shadow, while jane is illuminated.. is the shadow of the past, dark heavy feelings of rochester, while jane's soul is uncontaminated as appears at him eyes.
so great.
THESE ARE a real rochester and a real jane eyre.
well, dalton is handsome, but not too much sensual and attractive at all. in the book rochester is fascinating, not beautiful.
Zelah's performance's very good ! That's so unfair , a lot of people find her unexpressive or boring ! Nonsense! She IS the Jane of the book ! Self-contained , extremely reserved and a little stiff because of her rude past life. Rochester falls in love with her because behind all this formality and these well-composed manners there is a huge intelligence , a former suffering and a big heart ! Zelah's great.
@duozo As an actress I occationally in this series find her a little burdened or reduced because of Tims demanding presence - he has a tendency to "own" every scene he's in, and I believe it's hard to compare to that. But after Jane leaves Rochester, Zelah shines as an actress. Beautiuful.
Ahhhh NOTHING beats Timothy Dalton's Rochester. Toby Stephens was good....but the dumbed down script really weakened his performance. If Toby Stephens only had this script to work with...
If Timothy only had the 2006 production with this script- WOW! I hate how he is in the dark half the time- I want to see that beautiful face while he is speaking!
Try this; One evening, go into a room, light a fire (if you have a fireplace) and some candles. I think you will find that it is still even darker than in this scene. :-)
My point is that I kind of like productions where they try to copy light as it could have been in reality when there were no lightbulbs.
Yeah, this is a scene that doesn't ever show up on Youtube, but it shows both the strengths of this production (faithfulness to the text) and the strengths of Dalton's performance.
It its a pity that this second interview is so much shortend (but cut in a decent way however, not "massacred" as is in JE06) because I miss the "bonnie wanderer" and the "dangerous maxim" very much.
The tone is different from JE73, and I think I prefer that adaptation's wit and banter in this scene.
It would be a pity if they had extended it and wound up like '73.
I think they found many more real moments than they did in '73, where they rumbled through a lot of dialogue but rarely come up real or connected. Not in humor, not in causticity. Not for my money anyway.
They used the time they had fully. I wouldn't trade that.
Having English as a foreign language, I do not fully understand what you are writing, but I think I see that you and I interpret the 2nd interview in JE73 very differently. This is fine, it would be boring if there was a consensus on every topic ;-)
Yeah I think we probably differ on how successfully the scenes in each version actually convey the book. They approached both versions so differently, it's not surprising they'd have very different audiences.
As the DVDs I own have no subtitles (not even in English) I am so happy that the 1973 version is so true to the book, because since I have read it in two different translations to my native language (oh yes, I AM A NERD) I have been able to follow the dialogue.
The 2nd interview is one of my favourite passages because it challenges me to try to understand the meaning "between the lines". Sorcha Cusack and Michael Jayston perform this scene magnificently (IMO).
In general, I think the BBC minis from 1973 and 1983 are more similar - especially when it comes to faithfulness to novel's text - than the mini from 2006. (I do not involve any film - 1944, 1970 etc. - in a comparison as I place them in a separate "league".) Therefore, I believe the audience for 1973 and 1983 are more alike than the one raving about 2006.
Yeah I know what the similarities are, I was talking about the differences. From what I've seen on the internet overall, 1973 is barely mentioned by fans of 1983 and 2006, or of other versions.
Tastes are differ. Let's face it, for majority of people Dalton is gorgeous, Stephens is handsome and Jayston is average. People who never read a book would watch 83 and 06 and unlikely 73. 73 is basically for die hard JE fans. I think that is why it has less audience.
"Jane Eyre 1973" has (for the time being) less audience because the BBC bet it all in the 1983 and 2006 versions.
The BBC never released the 1973 version: it was little 'Acorn Media', after 33 long years. The BBC refused stubbornly all the demands of countless fans to do it.
This was disrespectful and stupid, so much so because the BBC has been dumping a lot of trash on the market in recent years.
'Acorn Media' grabbed their chance and (as far as I know) they are making good money on it...
I think you're confusing your own needs with other people's and you keep posting this same point. For starters, just because one person doesn't find someone hot doesn't mean another won't. Sean Penn isn't physically gorgeous and he's real popular with women, same with a lot of actors, like James McAvoy, Woody Allen, James Cagney, Spencer Tracy, Michael Imperioli.
That's not why some versions make it, and others don't. I've read the book and looks don't factor into it at all.
Both Michael Jayston and Sorcha Cusack were 'average': that is one of the reasons why the 1973 version had such success in its day and remains so deeply rooted in the audiences' imaginary.
Jane Eyre and Edward Rochester are 'ordinary' people living an 'extraordinary' situation: because of that, the 'ordinary' viewer can not only 'admire' but also 'identify' him/herself with the characters.
That would have been much harder (if not impossible) were Sorcha and Michael other than 'average'.
I see your point. At the same time a lot of women want to see on the screen a handsome noble prince to fall in love and have a break from every day reality. Same goes for a number of men. "Average" would not work for this part of the audience. I remember that Hitchcock thought that "Vertigo" was a flop, because J. Stewart became old i.e not attractive enough for the audience to simpasize him.
As for myself, I can't 'admire' nor 'identify' myself with 'Scotty', because (in Hitchcock's own words) he is a man who wants to sleep with a dead woman. He's not an 'ordinary' man living an 'extraordinary' situation: he's a sick man living through a serious mental illness. For that reason, I'm very far from being one of those great admirers of "Vertigo"...
Mr. Rochester after Jane left him was also acting as emotionally sick person. He was depressed and acted weird. May be "healthier" man would just move on with his life. Scottie had couple tuff blows like fall from the roof and death ( as he thought) of woman he loved. It affected his psychic, but he was shrewed enough to solve the puzzle. Mr. Rochester was emotionally abusive which some people consider as abnormalty. He hurt Jane by making her jealos to Blanche.
Allow me to desagree. After Madeleine's "death", Scotty became a necrophiliac. After Jane's break up, Rochester simply became a depressed man: his mind, heart and will were well enough to do (among other things) the brave gesture of trying to save Bertha from death. Even after that, he was well enough to ensure Mrs. Fairfax retirement and Adèle's proper education at a boarding school.
But it wasn't Scotty's talent which solved the case: it was Judy's huge mistake of wearing Madeleine's jewels in front of him. "You don't keep souvenirs of a murder!", I think he said to her.
I am under impression that Scotty had some quesses before as well. Somebody called Hitchcock psycho for having all that "sick" characters in his films.
Unlike the average XIX century English landlord, Rochester was a good a kind master, according to Mrs. Fairfax (and also to John, the servant, in the 1973 version: "It was his kindness that blinded him").
Jane being made jealous by Rochester... well, believe or not, that's an old, very old 'game' (so to speak) between people in love - at least in Western Europe. Literary examples of that are legion.
I find both Jayston and Hurt attractive (and neither were "old"), you don't find Hurt attractive at all, to say the least, but his is a more favored version. In fact it's one of the most favored. A quick visit to some 1996 videos showed an awful lot of viewers, that should tell you something. If it doesn't, nothing will.
Imo versions like 96/97 have success because of a quick and easy script. Number of people can't sit through 83/73. 97 which I prefer to 96 for a number of reasons has a lot of screaming, drugging, throwing to keep viewers attention. Jane Eyre is such a great tale that any version of it has at least some fans.
Definitely my favorite version, and my favorite cast. Dalton is so smoldering. I never found him at all attractive until I saw him as Rochester, now I wonder what was wrong with me. Guh.
jupitertronic 2 weeks ago
T Dalton is the best ever Rochester. Just seen Fassbender who is georgous but Mr D is the best!!
clare68healy 4 months ago
I love Toby Stephens, Michael Fassbender but Timothy Dalton's Mr Rochester is the best in my heart @@
wincipoet 8 months ago
6:04 til the end. that's all I'm going to say.
missttt888 8 months ago
If I was Jane and Mr. Rochester has looked like THIS...I would have gone into a polygamous marriage ANY DAY.
TwilightLuvvverxxx 10 months ago
i love 3:48!
MUTYAAR 1 year ago
Jane sure is an epic bore...Rochester, on the other hand...
KellyGreen5555 1 year ago
Agree with all the below comments, the best and also simplest version of Jane Eyre, now i have faces to see when i read the book again.
chigaloo2 2 years ago 5
This is the very best of the jane eyre movies. Best actors for sure.
yuukikanameflipflap 2 years ago 19
Timothy Dalton makes a rather charming Rochester!
FantasmaLuna 2 years ago 10
in my experience this is closest to the book-
very well done-
ThePiscean60 2 years ago 14
English is my second language and I believe my skills are good. But their speaking is hard to understand.
mayituck 2 years ago
It might have to do with sound quality in your computer; English is my fifth language (in chronological order anyway) but I have no problem to hear what the actors say.
Annacathalicia 2 years ago
fith language ? wow, talk about skils... but I grew up learning american english and there's some difference here
mayituck 2 years ago
Timothy is georgeous as allways; of course, I'm a great admirer of Timothy, although not only because of his classic beauty and sexy voice: I actually can not name any other actor with Timothy's potential to express such diversity of emotions.
Annacathalicia 2 years ago 4
he is SO sexy....oh GOD.
DinaStrange 3 years ago 8
Lol he totally has the irish charm :D
XxXTwilightFan001XxX 3 years ago 2
Irish? Isn't he Welsh?
beignet58 2 years ago
@beignet58 His Dad is English and his Mum is half Irish and half Italian, but he was born and raised in Wales...so he's Welsh then :D
wincipoet 8 months ago
@XxXTwilightFan001XxX Welsh charm.
MsSarjen 1 year ago
I can listen to him talk forever. He can read the phone book and turn me into a puddle on the floor.
debbiedonlon63 3 years ago 7
lol, TOTALY agree!! :D
EquineLover123 3 years ago
@debbiedonlon63 Your comment made me laugh :) lol Same here!
TwilightLuvvverxxx 10 months ago
holla at yo koala
i heart this tL
141132 3 years ago
I have always enjoyed older stories.Even though I am only in my early twenties what entertainment has created in the last number of years,I abhor the "newer" romance.Swearing,nudity is not my taste.My parents raised me to be Godly in all my ways along with my brothers.When one has these older films one rarely has to rent and besides all this,I can't really stand movie stores because there is hardly anything that is "Decent" anymore.
Jane Eyre has always been one of my favorites.
loveisacross 3 years ago 2
WOW FANTASTIC! It is the only film that reproduce that scene as it was in my mind reading the book!! look at the shadows! rochester's face is always in shadow, while jane is illuminated.. is the shadow of the past, dark heavy feelings of rochester, while jane's soul is uncontaminated as appears at him eyes.
so great.
THESE ARE a real rochester and a real jane eyre.
well, dalton is handsome, but not too much sensual and attractive at all. in the book rochester is fascinating, not beautiful.
igenimillenari 3 years ago 7
...and expecially THE VOICE!I swear that this is the PERFECT ROCHESTER VOICE! I imagined precisely so simply sexy!
igenimillenari 3 years ago 2
Timothy Dalton is the best, so cute, handsome and great!
Cinzia7 3 years ago 5
Zelah's performance's very good ! That's so unfair , a lot of people find her unexpressive or boring ! Nonsense! She IS the Jane of the book ! Self-contained , extremely reserved and a little stiff because of her rude past life. Rochester falls in love with her because behind all this formality and these well-composed manners there is a huge intelligence , a former suffering and a big heart ! Zelah's great.
And Timothy ... well... fantastic! ;D
duozo 3 years ago 9
@duozo As an actress I occationally in this series find her a little burdened or reduced because of Tims demanding presence - he has a tendency to "own" every scene he's in, and I believe it's hard to compare to that. But after Jane leaves Rochester, Zelah shines as an actress. Beautiuful.
MsSarjen 1 year ago
Ahhhh NOTHING beats Timothy Dalton's Rochester. Toby Stephens was good....but the dumbed down script really weakened his performance. If Toby Stephens only had this script to work with...
Tangerine08 3 years ago 7
If Timothy only had the 2006 production with this script- WOW! I hate how he is in the dark half the time- I want to see that beautiful face while he is speaking!
cheekygirl8 3 years ago 10
Try this; One evening, go into a room, light a fire (if you have a fireplace) and some candles. I think you will find that it is still even darker than in this scene. :-)
My point is that I kind of like productions where they try to copy light as it could have been in reality when there were no lightbulbs.
domramalaja 3 years ago 2
Yeah, this is a scene that doesn't ever show up on Youtube, but it shows both the strengths of this production (faithfulness to the text) and the strengths of Dalton's performance.
milovy 4 years ago 2
It its a pity that this second interview is so much shortend (but cut in a decent way however, not "massacred" as is in JE06) because I miss the "bonnie wanderer" and the "dangerous maxim" very much.
The tone is different from JE73, and I think I prefer that adaptation's wit and banter in this scene.
domramalaja 3 years ago
It would be a pity if they had extended it and wound up like '73.
I think they found many more real moments than they did in '73, where they rumbled through a lot of dialogue but rarely come up real or connected. Not in humor, not in causticity. Not for my money anyway.
They used the time they had fully. I wouldn't trade that.
elea1 3 years ago 6
elea1,
Having English as a foreign language, I do not fully understand what you are writing, but I think I see that you and I interpret the 2nd interview in JE73 very differently. This is fine, it would be boring if there was a consensus on every topic ;-)
domramalaja 3 years ago
Yeah I think we probably differ on how successfully the scenes in each version actually convey the book. They approached both versions so differently, it's not surprising they'd have very different audiences.
elea1 3 years ago 3
elea1,
As the DVDs I own have no subtitles (not even in English) I am so happy that the 1973 version is so true to the book, because since I have read it in two different translations to my native language (oh yes, I AM A NERD) I have been able to follow the dialogue.
The 2nd interview is one of my favourite passages because it challenges me to try to understand the meaning "between the lines". Sorcha Cusack and Michael Jayston perform this scene magnificently (IMO).
domramalaja 3 years ago
I've only read it in English, but it's one of my favorite passages too.
Yeah as I said I think the 2 versions have very different audiences probably with different standards of acting, directing and so on..
elea1 3 years ago 5
In general, I think the BBC minis from 1973 and 1983 are more similar - especially when it comes to faithfulness to novel's text - than the mini from 2006. (I do not involve any film - 1944, 1970 etc. - in a comparison as I place them in a separate "league".) Therefore, I believe the audience for 1973 and 1983 are more alike than the one raving about 2006.
domramalaja 3 years ago
Yeah I know what the similarities are, I was talking about the differences. From what I've seen on the internet overall, 1973 is barely mentioned by fans of 1983 and 2006, or of other versions.
elea1 3 years ago 4
Tastes are differ. Let's face it, for majority of people Dalton is gorgeous, Stephens is handsome and Jayston is average. People who never read a book would watch 83 and 06 and unlikely 73. 73 is basically for die hard JE fans. I think that is why it has less audience.
galinaqt 3 years ago
"Jane Eyre 1973" has (for the time being) less audience because the BBC bet it all in the 1983 and 2006 versions.
The BBC never released the 1973 version: it was little 'Acorn Media', after 33 long years. The BBC refused stubbornly all the demands of countless fans to do it.
This was disrespectful and stupid, so much so because the BBC has been dumping a lot of trash on the market in recent years.
'Acorn Media' grabbed their chance and (as far as I know) they are making good money on it...
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
I think you're confusing your own needs with other people's and you keep posting this same point. For starters, just because one person doesn't find someone hot doesn't mean another won't. Sean Penn isn't physically gorgeous and he's real popular with women, same with a lot of actors, like James McAvoy, Woody Allen, James Cagney, Spencer Tracy, Michael Imperioli.
That's not why some versions make it, and others don't. I've read the book and looks don't factor into it at all.
elea1 3 years ago 2
Both Michael Jayston and Sorcha Cusack were 'average': that is one of the reasons why the 1973 version had such success in its day and remains so deeply rooted in the audiences' imaginary.
Jane Eyre and Edward Rochester are 'ordinary' people living an 'extraordinary' situation: because of that, the 'ordinary' viewer can not only 'admire' but also 'identify' him/herself with the characters.
That would have been much harder (if not impossible) were Sorcha and Michael other than 'average'.
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
I see your point. At the same time a lot of women want to see on the screen a handsome noble prince to fall in love and have a break from every day reality. Same goes for a number of men. "Average" would not work for this part of the audience. I remember that Hitchcock thought that "Vertigo" was a flop, because J. Stewart became old i.e not attractive enough for the audience to simpasize him.
galinaqt 3 years ago
As for myself, I can't 'admire' nor 'identify' myself with 'Scotty', because (in Hitchcock's own words) he is a man who wants to sleep with a dead woman. He's not an 'ordinary' man living an 'extraordinary' situation: he's a sick man living through a serious mental illness. For that reason, I'm very far from being one of those great admirers of "Vertigo"...
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
Mr. Rochester after Jane left him was also acting as emotionally sick person. He was depressed and acted weird. May be "healthier" man would just move on with his life. Scottie had couple tuff blows like fall from the roof and death ( as he thought) of woman he loved. It affected his psychic, but he was shrewed enough to solve the puzzle. Mr. Rochester was emotionally abusive which some people consider as abnormalty. He hurt Jane by making her jealos to Blanche.
galinaqt 3 years ago
Allow me to desagree. After Madeleine's "death", Scotty became a necrophiliac. After Jane's break up, Rochester simply became a depressed man: his mind, heart and will were well enough to do (among other things) the brave gesture of trying to save Bertha from death. Even after that, he was well enough to ensure Mrs. Fairfax retirement and Adèle's proper education at a boarding school.
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
Scotty was able to solve very difficul criminal case. I've heard that mentally sick people can be talented.
galinaqt 3 years ago
Yes, indeed: schizophrenics, for instance.
But it wasn't Scotty's talent which solved the case: it was Judy's huge mistake of wearing Madeleine's jewels in front of him. "You don't keep souvenirs of a murder!", I think he said to her.
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
I am under impression that Scotty had some quesses before as well. Somebody called Hitchcock psycho for having all that "sick" characters in his films.
galinaqt 3 years ago
Unlike the average XIX century English landlord, Rochester was a good a kind master, according to Mrs. Fairfax (and also to John, the servant, in the 1973 version: "It was his kindness that blinded him").
Jane being made jealous by Rochester... well, believe or not, that's an old, very old 'game' (so to speak) between people in love - at least in Western Europe. Literary examples of that are legion.
mendoncacorreia 3 years ago
I find both Jayston and Hurt attractive (and neither were "old"), you don't find Hurt attractive at all, to say the least, but his is a more favored version. In fact it's one of the most favored. A quick visit to some 1996 videos showed an awful lot of viewers, that should tell you something. If it doesn't, nothing will.
elea1 3 years ago
Imo versions like 96/97 have success because of a quick and easy script. Number of people can't sit through 83/73. 97 which I prefer to 96 for a number of reasons has a lot of screaming, drugging, throwing to keep viewers attention. Jane Eyre is such a great tale that any version of it has at least some fans.
galinaqt 3 years ago
Or some prefer the acting and the script in some versions over others. At least we're off the looks issue.
elea1 3 years ago 5
Lord, he IS Mr. Rochester!
margaretregan 4 years ago 30
This is one of my favorite parts- he is so sexy as Rochester. I love hearing his voice with those wonderful words!
cheekygirl8 4 years ago 7