@driverfilms Remember,by the time the TSR-2 was ready to fly, the US had the SR-71 in operation,and the XB-70 Valkyrie well into flight testing. I seriously doubt the work on those was subbed out to any British design firms.
We had more than a few very competent companies building aircraft in numbers that You could never reach in production.The TSR's problem was the committees involved from the beginning, driving costs and limiting it's future.
@Oldbmwr100rs Completely agree, the SR-71 thanks to Lockheed is in my mind the greatest aircraft ever built. Being British I think its very sad that our government held us back from being one of the worlds aviation pioneering nations. Had the TSR.2 been allowed to reach its full potential it would definitely have joined the ranks as one of the most pioneering and beautiful planes ever built along with the SR-71 blackbird and Concorde etc, shame that money limits our possibilities so much.
@Oldbmwr100rs With the hundreds of billions your 'competent companies' had lavished on them and the access to their competitors developments which CIA procured then a factory full of blind baboons in Madagassca could have been as successful. Imagine what Britain could have achieved on a more level playing field, & not just in weapons of war. Competent companies??? Starfighters, bribes, bent politicians = dead pilots, lots of dead pilots. REMEMBER THAT (skunk works)
@xcaibur I really do wish the TSR as well as the AVRO Arrow were both brought into production. The fact that both countries,The UK and Canada both bought ,especially in Canada's case,inferior planes(Compare the Arrow to the Douglas F-101 VooDoo) Now if You're going on about the F-104, even our own Air Force didn't like it. As far as bribing and stealing designs?Watch this film, with the British government involved it was doomed from the start,TSR didn't stand a chance.
Fantastically interesting and balanced film with terrific footage. The US opposition to it and the commercial threat it posed is an interesting 'angle'.
This is a story of hidden agendas,and deliberate,determined,active stupidity.
justmefornow1 1 month ago
Typical Americans, stealing our ideas
driverfilms 2 months ago
@driverfilms Remember,by the time the TSR-2 was ready to fly, the US had the SR-71 in operation,and the XB-70 Valkyrie well into flight testing. I seriously doubt the work on those was subbed out to any British design firms.
We had more than a few very competent companies building aircraft in numbers that You could never reach in production.The TSR's problem was the committees involved from the beginning, driving costs and limiting it's future.
Oldbmwr100rs 2 months ago
@Oldbmwr100rs Completely agree, the SR-71 thanks to Lockheed is in my mind the greatest aircraft ever built. Being British I think its very sad that our government held us back from being one of the worlds aviation pioneering nations. Had the TSR.2 been allowed to reach its full potential it would definitely have joined the ranks as one of the most pioneering and beautiful planes ever built along with the SR-71 blackbird and Concorde etc, shame that money limits our possibilities so much.
DeadMemories03 1 month ago
@Oldbmwr100rs With the hundreds of billions your 'competent companies' had lavished on them and the access to their competitors developments which CIA procured then a factory full of blind baboons in Madagassca could have been as successful. Imagine what Britain could have achieved on a more level playing field, & not just in weapons of war. Competent companies??? Starfighters, bribes, bent politicians = dead pilots, lots of dead pilots. REMEMBER THAT (skunk works)
xcaibur 1 month ago
@xcaibur I really do wish the TSR as well as the AVRO Arrow were both brought into production. The fact that both countries,The UK and Canada both bought ,especially in Canada's case,inferior planes(Compare the Arrow to the Douglas F-101 VooDoo) Now if You're going on about the F-104, even our own Air Force didn't like it. As far as bribing and stealing designs?Watch this film, with the British government involved it was doomed from the start,TSR didn't stand a chance.
Oldbmwr100rs 1 month ago
Fantastically interesting and balanced film with terrific footage. The US opposition to it and the commercial threat it posed is an interesting 'angle'.
197Bruce 10 months ago