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  • Wait, what? You dont think Chikane and Himeko are one of the best Yuri couples? Why?

  • @TheGodlikeDragon I don't support sexual assault, personally. Chikane ~raped~ Himeko and there were absolutely no consequences for it, Himeko's reaction almost made it SEEM OKAY TO DO THAT, and I hate that they are so popular so everyone will see this fucked up, damaged relationship as the epitome of "OMG SWEET KAWAII DESU YURI LOVE".

  • @SirensAfterMidnight(spoiler alert) I dont support Chikanes rape of Himeko. But she did it just so that Himeko would hate her. And I dont think Chikane did enjoy doing it exactly, and Himeko is like the most kindest and forgiving person in the world. Chikane knew she would have to do something pretty extreme to make Himeko hate her. Which didnt even work, she still didnt hate her. So Chikane had to do the most extreme thing she could do...Destroy the world!

  • @TheGodlikeDragon Yeah, see, I'm not stupid and I watched the anime. I know the shitty explanation or "justification" behind why it was done. But that didn't make it okay and the reason was a fucking stupid one. Kannazuki no Miko was made for men, so they probably tossed it in there because it would be "hot", honestly. It's a disgusting scene. When someone rapes you for malicious reasons, or at all usually, YOU DO NOT DISMISS IT AND FORGIVE THEM or pretend it NEVER HAPPENED.

  • @SirensAfterMidnight I hate that scene too. I hate rapist. But Chikane died! She planned to die all along. That is kinda an atonement if the rapist takes his/her life in my opinion(I know there is mental scars still, but they will not be able to do it again at least) And Im just glad that they didnt go to far adding nudity scenes(I kinda dislike when some animes have nudity scenes, when they easiely can hide it in some way)

  • @TheGodlikeDragon You're not going to convince me to feel otherwise, because the way that anime portrayed rape and sexual assault was just inexcusable to the woman in me. I don't like Chikane and Himeko much because of it. It was even worse in the manga. I like Kaon and Himiko SO much more because they portray a sweet, loving couple vastly different from Chikane and Himeko. Even though the Shattered Angels anime wasn't that brilliant. I didn't even like Kannazuki much as a whole.

  • @SirensAfterMidnight Oh, and also, Chikanes whole existence and all proof of it was totally erased. Think if every trace of you existing vanished. We humans are creatures of memorys, which makes us different from animals. Because we rememeber the people we meet and who we loved and what we did. To lose ones memory is to lose ones identitiy.

    The reincarnated Chikane will never be able to be the one who she was. Our memorys forms us. So in true, Chikane is gone forever

  • @TheGodlikeDragon I think that's a silly thought, animals remember and love, too. My dog remembers who I am. My dog loves me. He's not human, though, and he still feels and does these things. So do my cats and other pets. We're not that different.

    And Chikane got what she wanted, really, so it's whatever - I don't sympathize with her. She's an abusive person regardless of why, and Himeko's dumb for blindly loving her like that with no side-effects or consequences.

  • @SirensAfterMidnight Is dying not an consequence? So all the murders that got sentenced to death, didnt get an consequence upon them when they got sentenced?

    And yes animals can love humans. But not one of their own species(or at least not for long, they kinda forget things).

    My point is: yes rapings are a very bad thing. But if you pay for it with your life, its an consequence

  • @TheGodlikeDragon So as long as you DIE, it's okay to rape someone?

    Just because Chikane was killed, and she wasn't killed for raping Himeko, one of them was going to die anyway, doesn't mean she wasn't an abusive asshole for doing it in the first place. There were no consequences with her relationship with Himeko; she assaulted her, and Himeko went on loving her. She didn't display any realism that comes with sexual abuse.

    Sorry, but you CANNOT convince me to change my opinion here.

  • @TheGodlikeDragon And that's the problem I have with this anime: here you are trying to justify Chikane's actions as a rapist. Clearly, this anime is giving people the indication that LESBIAN RAPE AW YEAH is just this perfectly okay thing as long as the character who does it suffers somehow, but what about the victim? People watch this anime and think "Chikane is so amazing!" No. She's a bad person. The whole anime is shitty in and of itself in displaying lesbian relationships, ugh. Just no.

  • @SirensAfterMidnight I am not trying to justify them right now, I am just saying there was an conssequence for what she did.And I like them as an couple becuase of how much they love each other.

    If you think about it, their lives would have just been like Himikos and Kaons relationship, if it were not for that Oorochi`s return. And she must love her very much to forgive rape. But she is dead and there is new reincarnated girl who will love her just as much(and will not rape)

  • @TheGodlikeDragon Sexual assault as side-effects, consequences, and the show never displayed any of that. Himeko just went on like it never happened, still obsessively loving the shit out of Chikane. If there had been a conflict period, or some realism, I might have been able to get over it, but it was so goddamn stupid that I can't, and I will always dislike them for it. Forgiving Chikane didn't make Himeko kind, it made her emotionally and physically abused and stupid.

  • @TheGodlikeDragon So the fact that everyone things they are "LYKE OMG THE BESTEST YURI COUPLE IN THE WHOLE DAMN WORLDDDDD" is a really shitty representation of lesbian love and how beautiful it can be. Lesbians don't rape their partners for really stupid reasons and then their partners just be like "oh lalala, I just got sexually assaulted (and it had to have been painful because I was a virgin) BUT I STILL LOVE YOU AND OMG I'M SO WORRIED ARE YOU OKAY JUST LOVE ME". That's not cute, it's fucked.

  • Who wrote the opening song?

  • It's by the band Xandria.

  • Another great AMV by you, well done, good music, good anime, goes well together.

  • Thank you! ^^

  • hehe yea like always^^ you do like wolfs? :D love'em(^^)

  • I love wolves. :)

  • Great like always... :3

  • Thank you very much! :D

  • The "Fin" at the end made me laugh a little, but that was a really sad video. And I am a queen when it comes to sad but you did such a good job. ^^

    So many lesbian vids and not enough songs! XD

    No rest for the wicked my dear and it is you my Goddess who is wild and of no rest!

    Awesome!

  • Thanks, Lady~ :3

    I wasn't necessarily aiming for it to be sad, but I guess KnM is just a sad anime. Twisted, too, what with the raping the ones we love, but y'know. XD

    I've got a few other videos up, too, if you care to look. Some of the live action ones from Ag., another AMV and the footage from the Nightwish concert back in May. :)

  • Wow; I can kinda feel what you meant when listening. XD It does sort've seem like it would work when thinking of Himeko and Chikane.

    Another great work indeed. :D Cool thing is that I really hadn't seen all these scenes in other AMVs before, so it was refreshing from typical KnM stuff! X3

  • I thought the Tarja parts well represented the sweetness of the relationship, relatively. I could also see how Himeko was the "lily among the thorns, the prey among the wolves."

    Then Marco's parts made me think of the negative aspects, which was why I used the fighting/killing scenes at that part: "Barely cold in her grave, barely warm in my bed, settling for a draw tonight, puppet girl your strings are mine." I was tempted to use a rape scene or two, too. <<;

  • first everything! XD another awesome video

  • Thanks! :D

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