@Elthenar hammer takes power to kill, anyone can pretty much fire a small hand gun and kill someone... including children, i'm not hating on the tool... i'm hating that it can be used for killing someone easily!
In today Germany systematic maltreatment of children is organized by the state and executed by snitchers.The psychiatric literature holds many reports of jewish children having been persecuted in exactly this way.Since WW2 psychiatry was regularly misused by Germany to discredit and persecute the NAZI victims.Germany pretended to pay compensation to get the former victims into the hand of shrinks certifying them being mental cases due to persecution.Sometimes they even got some 100$ compensation
@jamestaylor94b The World unofficial cut off point for artillery is anything 20mm or larger. In the U.S. anything larger than .50BMG (.510 inches) is considered artillery Some exceptions being made for antique weapons, and others on the excepted list.
20mm and .50 cal are according to the NATO pussy convention only supposed to be used against soft and hard vehicle targets... but hay if im getting shot at im gonna shoot back with whatever ive got...
So...what make and model was this? I don't think I've ever seen something of this design before.
Unless I have, in which case I'll prepare to feel really, really stupid.
Does it fire 20mm Vulcan or does it shoot its own 20mm cartridge?
Guns like this fascinate me so much. Probably because I was raised on video games and in every shooter, there was always a BFG of some sort, towering above all others.
And a gun that fires ammo like this? How do they get bigger without being rocket launchers?
@RRVCrinale The model is the L-39 Lahti A.T. rifle. it was built to fire the 20x138B cartridge used by the Solothurn S18-1000 Rifle, and some German A.A. guns. Something around 2,000 rifles were built, and 1,000 of them ended up here in the U.S. Some were deactivated, and were later restored by conversion to .50BMG, and as 20x138 ammo became more scarce, and expensive, some were converted to fire the U.S. 20mm Vulcan.
There was only 200 Lahti antitank -rifles delivered for Finnish jaeger battalions when The Winter War between Finland and Sovjiet startet nearly 70 years ago. The Lahti 20mm antitank -gun was very effective as a multipurpose support rifle. But those delivered 200 rifles was not enough, field commanders had a need for 2000 rifles for active enemy contact.
How do you figure? No more then buying a car that will do 180 when the speed limit is 55. Or the guy that lives in the city that jacks his truck up. It is all about having fun with toys. Some people like model airplanes, some 20mm rifles ;)
@HRVjason How do you figure that it doesn't make it over-compensation... Im not saying it is overcompensation, but your argument falls on its face. It always amazes me how comments like this get thumbs. My guess is you get thumbs just because its your thread. Long live cultism!
Great video BTW, but you didnt need my validation, did you?
1)Arguing against his well-explained view that it is not overcompensation (fast car, jacked up truck) with nothing to back your own argument
2)Then agreeing with him ("not saying it is overcompensation")
3)Claiming HIS argument has no support behind it
4)Insulting him by claiming he cannot get thumbs on his own, and furthermore insinuating that he has some sort of super-loyalist group who backs his every word?!?
@nazaxprime But only a pudknocker would make such a foolish statement, interjecting(and uninvited at that) their own viewpoint as though it possesses some moral high ground that needs to be rubbed in someone's face. That is plain rude, and the behavior of a spavened Pillock.
When a person falls back on name calling it says something. 10mmtroy, again when you have some facts please feel free to comment. If not, well then find someone else to try and impress as I am not.
Regardless what it was designed for? Says you? Riiiight.
It is an anti tank rifle by definition. Yes its gas operated and yes it is in fact 20mm. But that does not make it an auto cannon as it is not fully automatic. Get your facts straight! :)
You're confusing "full automatic" with "automatic". Automatic is any weapon that loads itself after being fired, regardless of whether it is "semi automatic", "full automatic" or "burst'.
Autocannon is a class of weapon (HV, > 14.5mm, autoloading) and what the weapon's purpose is has nothing to do with this classification. We don't call the Vulcan 20mm a "people shredder rifle" when its on an AC-130, an "anti missile gun" when its on a CIWS, etc, its just an autocannon.
Auto cannons are in fact a class of weapons.......AUTOMATIC ie Full automatic not semi-auto as with this weapon. Also both weapons you used as an example are in fact automatic. The Lahti is not. Please find me data that lists the Lahti in a class of "Auto Cannon" and I will stand corrected. Until then you are just arguing without any facts.
While you at it read up on the Lahti and other 20 mm guns out there that are NOT auto cannons. ;)
@10mmTroy You sonny, are not using your head. Auto cannon are fully automatic, that is their only mode of function. They are found mounted on a carriage, or vehicle, or aircraft.. Anti-Tank rifles even though they are usually found in artillery calibers are still rifles. fired from the shoulder by one man, and resting on a bi-pod. Some are bolt action, some are semi auto (like the Lahti in this clip) a few are selective fire, but are still not auto cannon. Do some learnin' kiddo,,
"Semi" and "full automatic" refer to whether a weapon is semi or fully automatic. Automatic simply refers to self loading weapons, in the strictest sense. Cannons are weapons with a bore >14.5mm.
Some experts even refer to main tank guns with an autoloader as a auto cannon, they are not fully automatic but they are none the less automatic and cannons (thus auto cannon).
Also, this "kiddo" is twice as knowledgeable and experienced with weapons as you - eat a dick
@10mmTroy Bold talk for someone with 10mm in his name. You must enjoy it if you're recommending it. Its always entertaining to see little kids pretend to know something, especially when they try to B.S. the people who do know. Toddle off now kiddo, maybe Barney is on.
Seeing as how its an enthusiast's cartridge I'm not sure how this is supposed to indicate a lack of knowledge or competence.
I realize being an old fat fuck who can't get his dick up must suck when you consider that people who are younger, fit and can get their dick up are more knowledgeable/competent in regards to things you consider yourself an expert, but you can keep your bitterness to yourself old man.
If you honestly believe that a weapon cannot be straddling the ambiguous line between classification as one type or another then you've clearly not thought critically about the issue.
@10mmTroy I honestly believe you to be a troll, and a dimwit. Your lack of respect for the poster of this clip, and most notably for yourself crushes any glint of competence you may (and I reiterate may) possess. Good bye little man.
@10mmTroy burst fire is automatic fire controlled by the firer to fire 3,5, 10 round bursts or however many rounds in a burst desired. it is not a mode u can switch to like on a video game... that where u got your info from ? HA
@HRVjason damn he shudda shut his mouth after u said that...i dont know how 10mmtroy cant get it into his thick skull that the weapon isnt automatic and there for isnt an AUTOcannon .. retard
this is a CANNON, but cause it shoots one its built like a rifle so u can call that, but the m61 jesus, that shoots 100 of these a second, and thats the smallest gun mounted on a jet and the rest go up from 23mm, 25mm and 30mm
Bottom line is guns don't cause problems people cause problems. a gun is just a tool just like a hammer or knife, used responsibly by the right person and nothing bad is likely to happen. statistically there are more people that die from automobile accidents then by guns, so for all you lobbyist why don't you complain to the dmv about death rates if you really want to make a difference, because you'll save more lives by getting incompetent drivers off of the road then by restricting gun rights.
@DuckwalkSupreme kinda like humpty dumpty all the kings horses and all the kings men couldnt put humpty dumpty back together again... after he got shot by the 20mm anti-tank gun lol.
No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.---James Burgh---for our european friends, sums it up.
Yea that 20 will clear tables at least a couple spots down on either side if not. Actually there was a crater to the one side where it was directed down. After the weekend of shooting it was about 12" deep. Caused more then one chuckle from the onlookers.
that's kind of sick that almost every dork can buy such a powerful gun in the us. are you planning a terrorist attack and you don't know where to buy the right arm?? --> just go to the united states of america!
Do you have any idea how much a rifle like that cost ???
Not just anyone can afford them . That's why you only see very rich men playing with them ! Hell one 50cal round cost about 4 dollars a shot so just think of what a 20mm cost ? You can't even buy that ammo off the shelf !
if money is the only problem - then there is in deed a very very big problem. i'll correct my posting: every single dork WITH MONEY can buy such a rifle. arms for self defense OK. but arms built for military purposes only? why is that necessary? and you wirte: who gives a damn if it's a 20mm or a 9mm. well it makes a diference if you want to kill someone 15 metres away or a mile away with a 20mm rifle.
My good sir you can makes hit's from a mile away with a deer rifle . If you know what you'r doing . Wich most people don't .
But for real there are people out there who collect fully functional tank's and artillary peaces . People with these toy's ''most of the time'' are the one's who have a pasion for them , like my self . We just like the way they look, sound, feel .
To us it's a hobby, a very controled hobby anyway .
well maybe i'm so critical about it, because i work with all kind of weapons due to my job. it's the point of view of a professional. but a point of view doens't have to be the only truth.
This is true , one point of veiw doesn'thave to be the only one . I will admit though there are some out there who have no buissnes with any type of fire arm . Me? I just like going out to the middle of nowhere or to a range with a freind or two and putting a few down range is all . I do prefer military ''type'' weapons though old , and new . I collect .
And what is your job exactly that you encounter 20mm? Please do tell because I can assure you that the people i know that have these are upstanding citizens, many in LE, both local and federal. Furthermore not just anyone can buy a DD. You need to pass an FBI background check. Not like you can buy these on the street....and if you could it would be against the law. So what exactly is your point? You dont like guns? You are afraid of them? What?
Right, because these are available just anywhere...LOL. Your ignorance is showing as you know nothing about firearms sold in the US. For example recently it was reported that 75-90% of all the guns seized in Mexico came from the US. Not true. The real number was less then 17%. Furthermore most of the items that they reported, like m16, rpd, grenades etc, are just not available here. I would think a person from Austria would have a better idea of gun laws. Then again...who are you?
So crusader, just how many attacks on US soil have there been with a WORLD WAR 2!!!!!!!!!! 20mm.
I emphasized WWII because the rifle has kinda been around for a while, dumbshit. It's ignorant, paranoid unintelligent shit stains like you that fuck things up for people that are doing no wrong.
Enlighten me, where is the harm in sending a 20mm round 1200 yards downrange into a 5x5 target on a hillside? Oh fuck me, nothing :)
Coming from a guy that seems to have an interest in guns I want you to know that you are the gun owners worst enemy. A person that only cares about the kind of gun "they" deem necessary. Let me clue you into something, defending one type of gun while questioning another is worse then not defending them at all. You are the kind of person that will eventually be the reason we lose all type of gun ownership.
all these people hating have probably never actually shot a gun themselves.
View it as some evil tool of satan or something, Well if i really wanted to.. i'm sure i could kill someone with a phone book in a pillow case. Guess its the intention and not the tool to be blamed?
@ganymedeIV4 The point is anyone can use a gun, they're designed specifically for one purpose, to kill, whereas a pillow case is designed to cover your pillow, and a phone book is designed to look up numbers. A gun has no other purpose for which it need exist in order to better our lives. I'm not religious but to say guns aren't evil is just cowboy bullshit.
Obviously if a person is determined to kill and is capable, they will. So guns are great because they make the job easier??
@bertazoid guns are not evil guns are a tool just like any thing else a knife is used to cut things it can cut flesh so now knifes are evil to because they can cut you or make killing some one easier.
@bertazoid Guns can be used for sport just like the spear in the start of humanity wich is now being used on the olympics (yes it was used for hunting aswell). same with arrow and bow
@bertazoid saying guns are designed specifically to kill is like say the only reason you would throw a rock is to kill. Ballistics are not evil, they were inevitable.
You are theeee american guy!!!Your last sentence told me everything.You are how we see most americans here in the country europe:dangerous and politicaly degenerated means dumb.greetz from "germany" and can you believe it i`m not a nazi!harrrharrr.
Dangerous and politically degenerated? You Germans are so silly. Fact, I live in the greatest country on the planet. A place were I can do what i want if I am willing to work hard for it. A country that allows me the freedoms to pursue the good life. A free country.
If you think shooting is dangerous I suggest you take up knitting, as it seems that is more along your lines of "things to do".
Kind of looks like the PTRS. But ammo for it costs ALOT of money. Plus the gun forget it. It's proabably just to show off you wouldn't really want with that unless you want a hole in your Buck
Show off? Only if you have a small pecker. That gun if for fun, plain and simple! Ammo, yea cost a few dollars, but if you reload its not that bad. Besides its just money.
And? I don't have a lot of money but that's not anyone's fault but my own. I work, I pay my bills and don't make choices that put me and my family in debts so large I cant keep up. Most people that are having troubles did so by getting into things they could not afford. Period. Not the banks fault, the governments fault (Fuck nObamessiah) or big oils fault. Its yours. When people start stepping up and taking responsibility for their choices the world will start to become a better place.
But wouldn't you have more money for more ammo if you used a smaller caliber? I think that 20mm is cool and all but isn't it meant to be an anti-material firearm? when was the last time you stoped a car with it? lol
Well actually we do tend to use cars for targets. However its not about what it was intended for its about fun. Shooting engine blocks = Fun. Shooting boulders = Fun. Trying to hit a refrigerator at 1000 yards = fun. Again not about the money, its about the fun of it. I swear some of you guys have such liberal minds its scary. Do you want to live in a world where you can only have what you NEED? Ya, me either.
The NTW is a bolt action, Lahti's are semi auto, and about 70 yrs old. To answer Araben, The L-39 develops 40,000 Ft. Lbs. of muzzle energy, so even if a man could hold up its 120 Lb mass, firing it would probably cripple him for life. If we ever capture Osama, we could execute him by making him fire it while standing.
HRVjason, that is a badass weapon, but the muzzle blast seems a little underwhelming for a 20mm. I'm willing to bet that you've fired a .50 bmg. And I'm wondering how the two compare as far as recoil? Oh and don't take any guff from these liberal douche bags!
Its not bad at all. Compared to a barret M82m which we were out shooting this weekend its about the same. Now, I have fired several other 50 cals, including bolt action guns and those kick much more.
Here is a video of my girlfriend shooting a Barrett M82 this past weekend. Honestly it kicks less then the 20mm. The 20mm is very heavy and mounted so its really not the bad. The M82 is lighter but has a great recoil system in which the barrel actually floats. She loved it AND hit what she was aiming at. The only down side is now our vacation account has been re-designated to a M82 fund... at her request. She is my angel in a ball cap!
it is mounted on a sled and the break on that thing is very efficient. We had it turned down and after the weekend there was a small crater in the ground below it.
Oh ok, so the whole intent of making guns.. is so you shoot them and never use them for defense or the harming of others... thanks for making that clear... to me.
LOL. So based on that Aspirin should only be used for headaches? A butter knife should only be used for butter? A hammer only used to drive nails? A bow and arrow only used to kill cowboys?
Fact is that the shooting sports are alive an well in this country. From trap clubs to school sponsored rifle teams. From USPSA to the Olympics. We live in the greatest country in the world and enjoy the freedoms that most dont.
I dont drink, but dont care if others do responsibly. Simple as that.
Guns are for shooting no doubt but you are talking to a military member about the purpose of guns. Very stupid, because I understand it better than you. So please, you might enjoy for recreational reasons, But i know they are made for a more grim purpose.
Don't assume that you are the only military member in this conversation. Serving in the military doesnt make you an authority in all weapons. Fact is that many folks in the military know only what they have been taught and have never fired anything but their service weapon.
I served in the US Army in the infantry so please spare me the "very stupid" BS. I would venture to say that I have far more knowledge of firearms then most in this discussion, yourself included. So pound sand Lib troll.
what intrigues me as a non-american is the question: what the fuck would you need a 20mm rifle (or for that, an AR) for? we live in civilised countries and there are neither elephants nor rogue tanks around.^^
i'm not saying those aren't cool, but what's their practical advantage over a handgun?
What intrigues me is peoples idea you "need" something to own it. For example here in the states why would you buy a vette or a euro car that can do 150+ when the speed limit is 70? Its not about need its about the right to do what a person wants. Its about the freedom to enjoy things that others may not find enjoyable. As for practical advantage well that is what training and my brain are for, not a weapon.
uh.. freedom to kill someone with a 20MM gun? yeah right, even the geneva conventions protect military personal from over kill. And when I say over kill, I mean you dont need a 20MM to kill someone. A 5..56 can do the job.
5.56 can do the job, but is actually quite ineffective with the current popular target of an opiate filled middle-eastern man. not that 20mm is any more functional in that sense, but this rifle is not meant for it anyway.
LMAO Yeah A 20MM would be a little Overkill just a little. Cool thing is theres a company out making 5th Wheel hitches for theese cannons just attach to your truck.
what do you hunt with that? dinosaurs? trains? superman? chuck norris?
BuecherFuerAlle 1 month ago
How much is a single bullet? About 50$? lol
kameraman99 1 month ago
Squirrel gun.
ANDR3WZZPRODUCTIONS 5 months ago
i really think guns are not harmful and beneficial sometimes if used by:-
1- pro gun enthusiast
2- protection purposes
the only thing that makes me hate guns is that it's used in stealing and killing someone (crimes, wars...etc...)
and the fact that you can end someone's life with a trigger (scary)
that's my view on guns :)
i never touched nor i fired a gun BTW but i like guns and hear the sound coming from it.
Verification11 5 months ago
@Verification11 You can end someones life with a claw hammer too. Don't hate the tool, hate the criminal.
Elthenar 5 months ago
@Elthenar hammer takes power to kill, anyone can pretty much fire a small hand gun and kill someone... including children, i'm not hating on the tool... i'm hating that it can be used for killing someone easily!
Verification11 5 months ago
@Verification11 I get your point. It's just that idiots with cars kill more people than people with with guns. In the US anyways.
Elthenar 5 months ago
@Elthenar Lol yes car accidents deaths are on top of everything!
Verification11 5 months ago
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Verification11 5 months ago
that bullet still hasn't hit the ground
ChromeArty 5 months ago
eric sits like shitting.
Yamato360 6 months ago
thats one way to nullify recoil lol
spiffinz 6 months ago
20mm rifle? whats the point?
mansson111 6 months ago
@mansson111 It was originally meant to shoot tanks, you would shot at the tracks of the tank.
SuperRegisteredUser 6 months ago
hopefully he can lug that tripod around when the revolution starts lol
TRBNGR666 6 months ago
How the hell do you even manage to muzzle the sound of this behemouth ha
kenis4 6 months ago
did he kill osama in the making of this video? hahhaha
Babcemakedonce1 7 months ago 2
can you please post a video shooting something big like a car door or fridge with that?
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In today Germany systematic maltreatment of children is organized by the state and executed by snitchers.The psychiatric literature holds many reports of jewish children having been persecuted in exactly this way.Since WW2 psychiatry was regularly misused by Germany to discredit and persecute the NAZI victims.Germany pretended to pay compensation to get the former victims into the hand of shrinks certifying them being mental cases due to persecution.Sometimes they even got some 100$ compensation
wwwtotalitaerde 10 months ago
if this thing get you... you just will feel nothing !
soldier660 10 months ago
where exactly do you get ammo for that beast?
sasquatch4liffee 10 months ago
honestly at this size i am getting a little in trouble about the difference between a rifle and a artillery gun
jamestaylor94b 10 months ago
@jamestaylor94b The World unofficial cut off point for artillery is anything 20mm or larger. In the U.S. anything larger than .50BMG (.510 inches) is considered artillery Some exceptions being made for antique weapons, and others on the excepted list.
beardo52 9 months ago
can i shoot pigeon with this gun?
ubertser 11 months ago
this guy is fat.... i doubt he could carry this system
steiner1988 11 months ago
20mm and .50 cal are according to the NATO pussy convention only supposed to be used against soft and hard vehicle targets... but hay if im getting shot at im gonna shoot back with whatever ive got...
Arcainenify 1 year ago
That looks as if it is capable of firing larger rounds....
ICU2P 1 year ago
do you make or buy the rounds for it.
MrSupra7 1 year ago
awesome
rex2074 1 year ago
20mm my ass...
MATANUI720 1 year ago
@MATANUI720 it is a 20mm.
beardo52 1 year ago
MW3 thats all i gotta say
damone3000 1 year ago
@damone3000 that game sucks.
Pyrofreak321 1 year ago
do you know how much carnage that would be if someone got hit by that....
buzookablower 1 year ago
can i use this gun to shoot justin bieber??
iLoveStage99 1 year ago
i think those would be great for hunting squirrels or turtles
hotlanta35 1 year ago
@hotlanta35 You wouldn't have much left. haha
haircutbob2 1 year ago
So...what make and model was this? I don't think I've ever seen something of this design before.
Unless I have, in which case I'll prepare to feel really, really stupid.
Does it fire 20mm Vulcan or does it shoot its own 20mm cartridge?
Guns like this fascinate me so much. Probably because I was raised on video games and in every shooter, there was always a BFG of some sort, towering above all others.
And a gun that fires ammo like this? How do they get bigger without being rocket launchers?
RRVCrinale 1 year ago
@RRVCrinale The model is the L-39 Lahti A.T. rifle. it was built to fire the 20x138B cartridge used by the Solothurn S18-1000 Rifle, and some German A.A. guns. Something around 2,000 rifles were built, and 1,000 of them ended up here in the U.S. Some were deactivated, and were later restored by conversion to .50BMG, and as 20x138 ammo became more scarce, and expensive, some were converted to fire the U.S. 20mm Vulcan.
beardo52 1 year ago
you call that a gun?! thats a cannon!
ganmu2009 1 year ago
There was only 200 Lahti antitank -rifles delivered for Finnish jaeger battalions when The Winter War between Finland and Sovjiet startet nearly 70 years ago. The Lahti 20mm antitank -gun was very effective as a multipurpose support rifle. But those delivered 200 rifles was not enough, field commanders had a need for 2000 rifles for active enemy contact.
IhanNormal 1 year ago
that is one serious unit
tomboehmpdot 1 year ago
What is the gun in the video mounted on? Does it swivel up and down? And how long does it take to assemble (the mount thing)?
nosferatu101 1 year ago
Yaaaay for Large Caliber Firearms!!!!
That thing is badass...
GamersWeekly123 1 year ago
I don't mind guns, but.. Holy balls. XD Can anyone say, overcompensation?
KaneAmaroq 1 year ago
@KaneAmaroq
How do you figure? No more then buying a car that will do 180 when the speed limit is 55. Or the guy that lives in the city that jacks his truck up. It is all about having fun with toys. Some people like model airplanes, some 20mm rifles ;)
HRVjason 1 year ago 78
@HRVjason
It was a joke, nothing more. It's just.. c'mon, you don't see it? A guy with a BIG fucking gun?
KaneAmaroq 1 year ago
@HRVjason well said
tomboehmpdot 1 year ago
@HRVjason I agree, just make sure no one ever fires any type of weapon while wearing shorts. This is bad press for gun owners and enthusiants.
Rooster1Cogburn 1 year ago
@HRVjason I think all of those things are overompensation
airsoftingrox123 11 months ago
@HRVjason How do you figure that it doesn't make it over-compensation... Im not saying it is overcompensation, but your argument falls on its face. It always amazes me how comments like this get thumbs. My guess is you get thumbs just because its your thread. Long live cultism!
Great video BTW, but you didnt need my validation, did you?
:)
have a good day.
nazaxprime 8 months ago
@nazaxprime
Your argument consists of:
1)Arguing against his well-explained view that it is not overcompensation (fast car, jacked up truck) with nothing to back your own argument
2)Then agreeing with him ("not saying it is overcompensation")
3)Claiming HIS argument has no support behind it
4)Insulting him by claiming he cannot get thumbs on his own, and furthermore insinuating that he has some sort of super-loyalist group who backs his every word?!?
Ya, you clearly won that one.
TheGoldenTeacher 8 months ago
@TheGoldenTeacher
1: I didn't argue against his statement. I asked a question.
2: I didn't agree or disagree, I clarified to guard against assumption.
3: Obviously, if he has positive thumbs, he has support. My statement stands.
4: I don't make the rules, and I didn't claim he could not get thumbs "legitimately".
5: It's not a game.
6: He did not back up his "well-explained view" with much more than a stereotype, which Is why I asked the question.
For a "teacher", you make too many assumptions.
nazaxprime 8 months ago
@nazaxprime But only a pudknocker would make such a foolish statement, interjecting(and uninvited at that) their own viewpoint as though it possesses some moral high ground that needs to be rubbed in someone's face. That is plain rude, and the behavior of a spavened Pillock.
beardo52 7 months ago
@KaneAmaroq Clearly, this man is guilty beyond all doubt of having too much fun. Lighten up man, sometimes a cannon is just a cannon.
beardo52 1 year ago
@KaneAmaroq just cos u have a 20mm dick.
MacheteElbows 4 months ago
@MacheteElbows
And you would know this, how? You enjoy staring at my dick, son?
Also, insults work a lot better when you can actually spell "because" and "you." Grow up, child.
KaneAmaroq 4 months ago
When a person falls back on name calling it says something. 10mmtroy, again when you have some facts please feel free to comment. If not, well then find someone else to try and impress as I am not.
HRVjason 1 year ago 18
Although it resembles a rifle, it is in fact an autocannon.
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@10mmTroy
The L-39 is not an auto cannon. It was developed as an anit-tank Rifle.
HRVjason 1 year ago
@HRVjason
Its automatic and its a cannon. It is by definition an autocannon, regardless of what its intended role was.
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@10mmTroy
Regardless what it was designed for? Says you? Riiiight.
It is an anti tank rifle by definition. Yes its gas operated and yes it is in fact 20mm. But that does not make it an auto cannon as it is not fully automatic. Get your facts straight! :)
HRVjason 1 year ago
@HRVjason
You're confusing "full automatic" with "automatic". Automatic is any weapon that loads itself after being fired, regardless of whether it is "semi automatic", "full automatic" or "burst'.
Autocannon is a class of weapon (HV, > 14.5mm, autoloading) and what the weapon's purpose is has nothing to do with this classification. We don't call the Vulcan 20mm a "people shredder rifle" when its on an AC-130, an "anti missile gun" when its on a CIWS, etc, its just an autocannon.
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@10mmTroy
Sigh.....You = a brick wall.
Auto cannons are in fact a class of weapons.......AUTOMATIC ie Full automatic not semi-auto as with this weapon. Also both weapons you used as an example are in fact automatic. The Lahti is not. Please find me data that lists the Lahti in a class of "Auto Cannon" and I will stand corrected. Until then you are just arguing without any facts.
While you at it read up on the Lahti and other 20 mm guns out there that are NOT auto cannons. ;)
HRVjason 1 year ago
@10mmTroy
Sending me a message with a link to a wiki page you havent even read....CLassic!
Here let me help you out with a line from your quoted page.....
"Like the machine gun, an autocannon is designed for fully automatic fire."
It would seem that in fact an autocannon by definition is fully automatic....Which the LAHTI is not. Now if you cant produce facts then pound sand.
HRVjason 1 year ago
@10mmTroy You sonny, are not using your head. Auto cannon are fully automatic, that is their only mode of function. They are found mounted on a carriage, or vehicle, or aircraft.. Anti-Tank rifles even though they are usually found in artillery calibers are still rifles. fired from the shoulder by one man, and resting on a bi-pod. Some are bolt action, some are semi auto (like the Lahti in this clip) a few are selective fire, but are still not auto cannon. Do some learnin' kiddo,,
beardo52 1 year ago
@beardo52
"Semi" and "full automatic" refer to whether a weapon is semi or fully automatic. Automatic simply refers to self loading weapons, in the strictest sense. Cannons are weapons with a bore >14.5mm.
Some experts even refer to main tank guns with an autoloader as a auto cannon, they are not fully automatic but they are none the less automatic and cannons (thus auto cannon).
Also, this "kiddo" is twice as knowledgeable and experienced with weapons as you - eat a dick
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@10mmTroy Bold talk for someone with 10mm in his name. You must enjoy it if you're recommending it. Its always entertaining to see little kids pretend to know something, especially when they try to B.S. the people who do know. Toddle off now kiddo, maybe Barney is on.
beardo52 1 year ago
@beardo52
"Bold talk for someone with 10mm in his name."
Seeing as how its an enthusiast's cartridge I'm not sure how this is supposed to indicate a lack of knowledge or competence.
I realize being an old fat fuck who can't get his dick up must suck when you consider that people who are younger, fit and can get their dick up are more knowledgeable/competent in regards to things you consider yourself an expert, but you can keep your bitterness to yourself old man.
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@beardo52
If you honestly believe that a weapon cannot be straddling the ambiguous line between classification as one type or another then you've clearly not thought critically about the issue.
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@10mmTroy I honestly believe you to be a troll, and a dimwit. Your lack of respect for the poster of this clip, and most notably for yourself crushes any glint of competence you may (and I reiterate may) possess. Good bye little man.
beardo52 1 year ago 2
@beardo52
Troll, didn't you condescendingly call me "kiddo"? Lolz
You're dodging the fact that you think you may wrong by attempting to insult me.
Again, eat a dick old man.
10mmTroy 1 year ago
@10mmTroy Both of you are making yourself look stupid
especially you.
dapenguin64 1 year ago
@10mmTroy burst fire is automatic fire controlled by the firer to fire 3,5, 10 round bursts or however many rounds in a burst desired. it is not a mode u can switch to like on a video game... that where u got your info from ? HA
kezza8880 1 year ago
@HRVjason damn he shudda shut his mouth after u said that...i dont know how 10mmtroy cant get it into his thick skull that the weapon isnt automatic and there for isnt an AUTOcannon .. retard
kezza8880 1 year ago
this is a CANNON, but cause it shoots one its built like a rifle so u can call that, but the m61 jesus, that shoots 100 of these a second, and thats the smallest gun mounted on a jet and the rest go up from 23mm, 25mm and 30mm
minerofblood 1 year ago
that was lame... xD
powerwark 1 year ago
the concept of a rifle has really change in the last 5secs!
bazengao 1 year ago
On military vehicles or aircraft, a 20 mm is called a cannon, why is this called a
rifle?
Gamera49 1 year ago
Because the lahti was built as a rifle.
HRVjason 1 year ago
@HRVjason whait
is that an lahiti?
it is probably a dumb question but isnt the lahiti diferend then that gun?
dontmakemeMAD1990 1 year ago
@dontmakemeMAD1990 LAHTI... not lahiti
nallepuh6969 1 year ago
@nallepuh6969 o shit
i always misspell that rifle :)
dontmakemeMAD1990 1 year ago
Nutin i wish i had one
poohhopper 1 year ago
Bottom line is guns don't cause problems people cause problems. a gun is just a tool just like a hammer or knife, used responsibly by the right person and nothing bad is likely to happen. statistically there are more people that die from automobile accidents then by guns, so for all you lobbyist why don't you complain to the dmv about death rates if you really want to make a difference, because you'll save more lives by getting incompetent drivers off of the road then by restricting gun rights.
camboi4 1 year ago 25
big gun that can blow of the side of your chest.
poohhopper 1 year ago
Your point?
HRVjason 1 year ago
@poohhopper If you took a round from this someone would have to put a lot of pieces back together to find out where your chest used to be.
DuckwalkSupreme 1 year ago
@DuckwalkSupreme kinda like humpty dumpty all the kings horses and all the kings men couldnt put humpty dumpty back together again... after he got shot by the 20mm anti-tank gun lol.
J3rEmY17 1 year ago
@J3rEmY17 Hell, Humpty Dumpty might have ended up in pieces just trying to shoot a 20mm rifle : )
DuckwalkSupreme 1 year ago
No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.---James Burgh---for our european friends, sums it up.
lukyll 2 years ago 5
the law of america
101andrewj 1 year ago
Is it just me or is the compensator/flashhider at angle instead of an even plain?
GreatWhite85 2 years ago
It was angled that way to reduce the sideblast on the firing line spots on either side.
HRVjason 2 years ago
Ah, ok. Good man. I know the feeling to though. Just standing next to a barret i would have carbon and stuff on my left side after a range day, haha.
GreatWhite85 2 years ago
Yea that 20 will clear tables at least a couple spots down on either side if not. Actually there was a crater to the one side where it was directed down. After the weekend of shooting it was about 12" deep. Caused more then one chuckle from the onlookers.
HRVjason 2 years ago
If you have the money and the space to use it .... Then why not ?
Who gives a damn if it's a 20mm or 9mm !
He has all the right in the world to own and operate it and so do you . If you don't like it the shut the hell up !
Gun's are here to stay , thank God !!!
Herbymac0811 2 years ago
amen!
elreyakaking 2 years ago
that's kind of sick that almost every dork can buy such a powerful gun in the us. are you planning a terrorist attack and you don't know where to buy the right arm?? --> just go to the united states of america!
thecrusader2007 2 years ago
@thecrusader2007
Are you kidding ?
Do you have any idea how much a rifle like that cost ???
Not just anyone can afford them . That's why you only see very rich men playing with them ! Hell one 50cal round cost about 4 dollars a shot so just think of what a 20mm cost ? You can't even buy that ammo off the shelf !
Herbymac0811 2 years ago
if money is the only problem - then there is in deed a very very big problem. i'll correct my posting: every single dork WITH MONEY can buy such a rifle. arms for self defense OK. but arms built for military purposes only? why is that necessary? and you wirte: who gives a damn if it's a 20mm or a 9mm. well it makes a diference if you want to kill someone 15 metres away or a mile away with a 20mm rifle.
thecrusader2007 2 years ago
@thecrusader2007
My good sir you can makes hit's from a mile away with a deer rifle . If you know what you'r doing . Wich most people don't .
But for real there are people out there who collect fully functional tank's and artillary peaces . People with these toy's ''most of the time'' are the one's who have a pasion for them , like my self . We just like the way they look, sound, feel .
To us it's a hobby, a very controled hobby anyway .
Herbymac0811 2 years ago
well maybe i'm so critical about it, because i work with all kind of weapons due to my job. it's the point of view of a professional. but a point of view doens't have to be the only truth.
thecrusader2007 2 years ago
@thecrusader2007
This is true , one point of veiw doesn'thave to be the only one . I will admit though there are some out there who have no buissnes with any type of fire arm . Me? I just like going out to the middle of nowhere or to a range with a freind or two and putting a few down range is all . I do prefer military ''type'' weapons though old , and new . I collect .
Herbymac0811 2 years ago
And what is your job exactly that you encounter 20mm? Please do tell because I can assure you that the people i know that have these are upstanding citizens, many in LE, both local and federal. Furthermore not just anyone can buy a DD. You need to pass an FBI background check. Not like you can buy these on the street....and if you could it would be against the law. So what exactly is your point? You dont like guns? You are afraid of them? What?
HRVjason 2 years ago
Right, because these are available just anywhere...LOL. Your ignorance is showing as you know nothing about firearms sold in the US. For example recently it was reported that 75-90% of all the guns seized in Mexico came from the US. Not true. The real number was less then 17%. Furthermore most of the items that they reported, like m16, rpd, grenades etc, are just not available here. I would think a person from Austria would have a better idea of gun laws. Then again...who are you?
HRVjason 2 years ago
So crusader, just how many attacks on US soil have there been with a WORLD WAR 2!!!!!!!!!! 20mm.
I emphasized WWII because the rifle has kinda been around for a while, dumbshit. It's ignorant, paranoid unintelligent shit stains like you that fuck things up for people that are doing no wrong.
Enlighten me, where is the harm in sending a 20mm round 1200 yards downrange into a 5x5 target on a hillside? Oh fuck me, nothing :)
GreatWhite85 2 years ago
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is a 20mm really necessary. I mean a .50 was not enough.
mitsufq360 2 years ago
Coming from a guy that seems to have an interest in guns I want you to know that you are the gun owners worst enemy. A person that only cares about the kind of gun "they" deem necessary. Let me clue you into something, defending one type of gun while questioning another is worse then not defending them at all. You are the kind of person that will eventually be the reason we lose all type of gun ownership.
HRVjason 2 years ago
all these people hating have probably never actually shot a gun themselves.
View it as some evil tool of satan or something, Well if i really wanted to.. i'm sure i could kill someone with a phone book in a pillow case. Guess its the intention and not the tool to be blamed?
ganymedeIV4 2 years ago 33
Something the liberal gun haters will never get.
HRVjason 2 years ago
@ganymedeIV4 Not to mention being able to kill someone with the pillow itself.
SniperBob762 1 year ago
@ganymedeIV4 The point is anyone can use a gun, they're designed specifically for one purpose, to kill, whereas a pillow case is designed to cover your pillow, and a phone book is designed to look up numbers. A gun has no other purpose for which it need exist in order to better our lives. I'm not religious but to say guns aren't evil is just cowboy bullshit.
Obviously if a person is determined to kill and is capable, they will. So guns are great because they make the job easier??
bertazoid 7 months ago
@bertazoid guns are not evil guns are a tool just like any thing else a knife is used to cut things it can cut flesh so now knifes are evil to because they can cut you or make killing some one easier.
fierwall5 7 months ago
@bertazoid Guns can be used for sport just like the spear in the start of humanity wich is now being used on the olympics (yes it was used for hunting aswell). same with arrow and bow
mikenator993 6 months ago
@bertazoid saying guns are designed specifically to kill is like say the only reason you would throw a rock is to kill. Ballistics are not evil, they were inevitable.
helpmefindmyalias 5 months ago
WTF!
wakadua 2 years ago
You are theeee american guy!!!Your last sentence told me everything.You are how we see most americans here in the country europe:dangerous and politicaly degenerated means dumb.greetz from "germany" and can you believe it i`m not a nazi!harrrharrr.
stonebasse 2 years ago
LOL!
Dangerous and politically degenerated? You Germans are so silly. Fact, I live in the greatest country on the planet. A place were I can do what i want if I am willing to work hard for it. A country that allows me the freedoms to pursue the good life. A free country.
If you think shooting is dangerous I suggest you take up knitting, as it seems that is more along your lines of "things to do".
God bless our WWII vets ;) You know why!
HRVjason 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
haha nice 5 stars
analmunkey 2 years ago
@HRVjason im from germany too and i love shooting with several guns and its not dangerous.and germany is silly in this point (and others).
lg jagtpanther :)
Jagtpanther1989 2 years ago
Cool story, bro.
BigBananaMan 2 years ago
How many grains do your bullets weigh? What kind of powder do you use?
mcdcurt 2 years ago
That puppy an old anti tank rifle or custom made?
comradestryker 2 years ago
Lahti Anti tank.
HRVjason 2 years ago
Kind of looks like the PTRS. But ammo for it costs ALOT of money. Plus the gun forget it. It's proabably just to show off you wouldn't really want with that unless you want a hole in your Buck
zackweasel 2 years ago
Show off? Only if you have a small pecker. That gun if for fun, plain and simple! Ammo, yea cost a few dollars, but if you reload its not that bad. Besides its just money.
HRVjason 2 years ago
Qell if you noticed alot of people don't have money.
zackweasel 2 years ago
And? I don't have a lot of money but that's not anyone's fault but my own. I work, I pay my bills and don't make choices that put me and my family in debts so large I cant keep up. Most people that are having troubles did so by getting into things they could not afford. Period. Not the banks fault, the governments fault (Fuck nObamessiah) or big oils fault. Its yours. When people start stepping up and taking responsibility for their choices the world will start to become a better place.
HRVjason 2 years ago
damn! well said and its 100% true! kudos!!!!!
chieffatnutz 2 years ago 2
But wouldn't you have more money for more ammo if you used a smaller caliber? I think that 20mm is cool and all but isn't it meant to be an anti-material firearm? when was the last time you stoped a car with it? lol
lexmark136 2 years ago
Well actually we do tend to use cars for targets. However its not about what it was intended for its about fun. Shooting engine blocks = Fun. Shooting boulders = Fun. Trying to hit a refrigerator at 1000 yards = fun. Again not about the money, its about the fun of it. I swear some of you guys have such liberal minds its scary. Do you want to live in a world where you can only have what you NEED? Ya, me either.
HRVjason 2 years ago
Not a permit, just a transfer tax of $200 and some paper work.
HRVjason 2 years ago
Do you need a special permit for that sort of rifle in the states?
BrianTotse 2 years ago
plz can some guy like try to fire this thing standing? I know it would be retarded but it would also be fucking awesome.
Might need to get some huge guy to fire it though, since it weight is lke 100 pounds.
Araben13 2 years ago
Arnold. Make it look like an Uzi.
Hum1ntOps 2 years ago
Damn you own a 20mm and an M82 you must be loaded with greens
punksnotdead543 2 years ago
Not mine. I cant spare the 10k+ for the lahti and 9k for M82.
Just a working man.
HRVjason 2 years ago
ammo aint cheap either... i like to shoot a .22 just cuz i can get 500 rounds for $20
SEINORTACO 2 years ago
oooohhh i want one for christmas lol
boombaklot 2 years ago
that kind of looks like a ntw-20 but with no carrieing handle
manypersons 2 years ago
The NTW is a bolt action, Lahti's are semi auto, and about 70 yrs old. To answer Araben, The L-39 develops 40,000 Ft. Lbs. of muzzle energy, so even if a man could hold up its 120 Lb mass, firing it would probably cripple him for life. If we ever capture Osama, we could execute him by making him fire it while standing.
beardo52 2 years ago 5
lmao
ladiesman217ven 2 years ago
my god that thing could shoot the tracks of a tank i bet
siralexu 2 years ago
Why would anyone bother to put a 4 second video on you tube. I dont even want to watch it.
Durrwa 2 years ago
Yet you took the time to post a dumb ass comment? LOL! Your a bright one!
HRVjason 2 years ago
omfg id like to see that hunt an animal
evillord363 2 years ago
that's right guys!!!!
This gun can stalk and shoot animals on it's own!!!
redeyesthe20th 2 years ago 5
lol
kimokeo412 2 years ago
lmfao!! :P
420tenke420 2 years ago
at first i was like OMFG THATS HUGE ITS GONNA BLOW HIS SHOULDER OFF then after he fired i was like aww ftw man
Cipher158 2 years ago
HRVjason, that is a badass weapon, but the muzzle blast seems a little underwhelming for a 20mm. I'm willing to bet that you've fired a .50 bmg. And I'm wondering how the two compare as far as recoil? Oh and don't take any guff from these liberal douche bags!
wlindenlaub 2 years ago
Its not bad at all. Compared to a barret M82m which we were out shooting this weekend its about the same. Now, I have fired several other 50 cals, including bolt action guns and those kick much more.
HRVjason 2 years ago
Here is a video of my girlfriend shooting a Barrett M82 this past weekend. Honestly it kicks less then the 20mm. The 20mm is very heavy and mounted so its really not the bad. The M82 is lighter but has a great recoil system in which the barrel actually floats. She loved it AND hit what she was aiming at. The only down side is now our vacation account has been re-designated to a M82 fund... at her request. She is my angel in a ball cap!
HRVjason 2 years ago
that makes the Berrett look like a pussy!!!!
TEEJAY9920 2 years ago 2
how in the hell is his shoulder still in one piece?
dpapaioannow 2 years ago
it is mounted on a sled and the break on that thing is very efficient. We had it turned down and after the weekend there was a small crater in the ground below it.
HRVjason 2 years ago
Is that a Solothurn?
DONChuto 2 years ago
wow wtf people let the man shoot his fucking cannon if he wants to...invite me next time and ill bring out my 50's...barrett 99 and barrett 82a1 :)
darksoldier300 2 years ago
Thats like god sneezing!
MinisterKGB 2 years ago
Oh ok, so the whole intent of making guns.. is so you shoot them and never use them for defense or the harming of others... thanks for making that clear... to me.
Holret 2 years ago
LOL. So based on that Aspirin should only be used for headaches? A butter knife should only be used for butter? A hammer only used to drive nails? A bow and arrow only used to kill cowboys?
Fact is that the shooting sports are alive an well in this country. From trap clubs to school sponsored rifle teams. From USPSA to the Olympics. We live in the greatest country in the world and enjoy the freedoms that most dont.
I dont drink, but dont care if others do responsibly. Simple as that.
HRVjason 2 years ago
Guns are for shooting no doubt but you are talking to a military member about the purpose of guns. Very stupid, because I understand it better than you. So please, you might enjoy for recreational reasons, But i know they are made for a more grim purpose.
Holret 2 years ago
Don't assume that you are the only military member in this conversation. Serving in the military doesnt make you an authority in all weapons. Fact is that many folks in the military know only what they have been taught and have never fired anything but their service weapon.
I served in the US Army in the infantry so please spare me the "very stupid" BS. I would venture to say that I have far more knowledge of firearms then most in this discussion, yourself included. So pound sand Lib troll.
HRVjason 2 years ago
You know what fine go shoot guns like the fucking redneck that you are, I dont care.
Holret 2 years ago
Ahh textbook reply from a person that has no knowledge of the topic at hand. LOL.
And its Mr Redneck to you troll boy
HRVjason 2 years ago
Well played my friend. :)
s4m2 2 years ago
haha u owned that bitch
goodygoody23 2 years ago
EPIC WIN
YOU-1
HIM-0
marineooo5 2 years ago
@Holret
Actually, guns were invented for hunting animals :V
billiamFTW 2 years ago
Very fun to shoot, as long as the gun is mounted, the recoil can give a sore shoulder for days to heal.
deltafreelancer 2 years ago
what intrigues me as a non-american is the question: what the fuck would you need a 20mm rifle (or for that, an AR) for? we live in civilised countries and there are neither elephants nor rogue tanks around.^^
i'm not saying those aren't cool, but what's their practical advantage over a handgun?
lordofashandcats 2 years ago
What intrigues me is peoples idea you "need" something to own it. For example here in the states why would you buy a vette or a euro car that can do 150+ when the speed limit is 70? Its not about need its about the right to do what a person wants. Its about the freedom to enjoy things that others may not find enjoyable. As for practical advantage well that is what training and my brain are for, not a weapon.
HRVjason 2 years ago
uh.. freedom to kill someone with a 20MM gun? yeah right, even the geneva conventions protect military personal from over kill. And when I say over kill, I mean you dont need a 20MM to kill someone. A 5..56 can do the job.
Holret 2 years ago
5.56 can do the job, but is actually quite ineffective with the current popular target of an opiate filled middle-eastern man. not that 20mm is any more functional in that sense, but this rifle is not meant for it anyway.
skks666 2 years ago
LMAO Yeah A 20MM would be a little Overkill just a little. Cool thing is theres a company out making 5th Wheel hitches for theese cannons just attach to your truck.
rspeaksup 2 years ago
Who said anything about killing anyone? LOL! Some of you people need to get out more often.
HRVjason 2 years ago