We Are Change San Antonio MLK Day 9/11 Truth Street Action

[maryannesbuds]

This was so fun and awesome I was in the right place at the right time I have footage too i just gotta go though it peace&love in the pursuit of liberty

~maryanne~

[brtndr98]

I have tried several times in the last two days, to send this video to all my contacts. And have experienced technical difficulties every time.

I get error messages, or it simply refuses to send the video. I'm pretty sure Youtube is censoring this video.

[911insidejob81]

great video

Keep spreading truth and doing great job!!

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB

WTC7 was controlled demolition

[brtndr98]

I love this video!

[WeAreChangeSA]

Thank you , North Texas 911's MLK video was super awesome

[damonsecloro]

hell yeah, gorilla warfare

[tcvm4141]

Excellent truth action... a true tribute to the spirit of Dr. King! Keep up the good work San Antonio!!!

[wearechange]

awesome video guys, proud that you guys did this, keep the cameras on them, and educate the police. so much respect!

peace and respect,

luke rudkowski

[WeAreChangeSA]

Thanks and God Bless

matthew

[jkim2049]

you inspire me luke!

[Chick6517]

hmmm wow those were very goood i like i like it haha seriously though im very intrested on learing how to do that ... u got me questiong wheater or not i can do it [=

[WACAustin]

Great job y'all. Wish I could've been there! Was that a cop taking a cellphone photo of williams? Can't wait for y'all to come up to Austin this Saturday!

[WeAreChangeSA]

Yes,that was a cop recording video on her old 1999 cell phone.

I heard say she would record us because we were recording.

And I am really excited about this weekend.

[leelnads]

cool vid

[rrangel81]

I just want you guys to know, I don'g just argue with you. I also have beef with people against gay marriage, people who want to ban porno, PETA, Sarah Palin supporters, people who quote FOX news as a viable news source, creation people, people that belive in god, MMA guys, wrestlers, movies, music, books, clothes, I'm just a spirited kinda guy.

[Squirelbutt]

no arguements with any of those.

[rrangel81]

Wow, be quiet we agree on a subject, lol. what are your thoughts on the subjects I mentioned?

[Squirelbutt]

hmmm.thoughts? well gay people have civil rights. I dont care who they marry. Why should straight people only suffer divorces. Nothing wrong with legal porno. People Eating Tasty Animals I like animals. Sarah who?. The bible was created by man.

[rrangel81]

Right on all points, well in my book. We went from curseing each other out to agreeing in one night, wow.

[Squirelbutt]

So we are on the same wave length. So why does mythbusters refuse to test the fuel melting steel theories. And any other simulation of collapsing a steel structure by fire? If you go on there site they state that they will not do anything with 911? Lots of questions no answers. When people refuse to answer they are hiding something when many hide its called a conspiracy- the act of more than one person to commit a crime.

[ShootBlueHelmets]

I did not know Mythbusters refused that, or that it was even discussed on their site. I will have to look into that. My oppinion of them will definately be BUSTED!

An explosives expert at my job stated that he was not a fan, in an odd way. Putting these two thing together makes me see his response in a new way. He may be "awake." Considering where I work, I find it intersting that I seem to find more "awake" people there all the time.

[Squirelbutt]

Yeah.. I thought of having them prove or disprove those things on there web request and then i saw their clause statement of that they would not do anything to do with 911 theorys. Which then reinforces network envolvement in hiding the truth by refusal of such an easy experinment that would make americans question what really happened.

[rrangel81]

They are one of the rarest shows on TV, they have the ability to tell neetworks to piss off. The only shows that can do that are; Simpsons, south Park, Ultimate Fighter, Monday Night Raw, and ER. I believe they refuse to do it, because it is a fun show nothing too serious. How can you make a joke when doing an experiment on 911? Also, tonights South Park was about the 911 truth movement one of my favorite episodes.

[rrangel81]

Beacuse, magazine such as; Scientific American, Popular Mechanics, and The Skeptic's Dictionary have all debunked the "melting steel". And, not one of the investigators has ever said melting steel, that was created by conspiracy theorist. The conclusion is that the the heat caused the steal frame to bend not melt, causing it to weaken and collapse. When the truth is already out there it is called beating a dead horse.

[Squirelbutt]

So you believe a journalist that writes news in a magazine and not a corps of engineers who are architects. See your fooled by propaganda thats a tool of the news media also that magizine has been debunked. And besides the steel is a cage support system it wont bend when burned. try melting a barbecue pit in kerosene. thats what jet fuel is. Truth is you dont understand physics and take some journalist view as facts that counter the laws of physics. To me thats creationism.

[rrangel81]

Ok, so the hundreds of engineers that examined the evidence are wrong compared to the few that see the same conclusions as you do? Melting a barbecue pit is something way different, that cannot not be compared to a structual collapse. Are you an engineneer, because I am and that is no BS, I work for UTSA in their operations management.

[Squirelbutt]

actually you have it the other way around. Remember the investigators are politicians. Unions of engineers say the findings of the politicians are highly questionable. Im not a degreed engineer but i do construction. And you working in operation management doesnt give you any insight in structural integrity and how they are designed.

[rrangel81]

you working in construction does not make you a physics analyst. The only engineers that agree with your views weren't working on the 911 commision. And, yes they had engineers working for them.

[Squirelbutt]

who? how do you know there credibility?

[Squirelbutt]

point being with a barbaque pit it is thin metal and it holds its strength. The crossbeams in the towers are very thick anchored to concrete flooring both support each other with vertical steel columns in the middle. that wasnt shown in the theory models. you could torch the whole building and if you burned all the concrete. a steel skeleton frame would remain like in the apocolypse movies. In history of all buildings this is the first. and it happened 3 times.

[rrangel81]

In your example the apocolypse, that onlly shows what happened on the outside of the building, the tower fell from within.

[Squirelbutt]

it should fall period the skeleton should hold up.

[rrangel81]

But, some of the skeleton did stand up and some of the cross beams were intact when ivestigators found them.

[Squirelbutt]

but the whole top would still not of collapsed unless all the supports below were gone.

[rrangel81]

It collapsed where the point of impact where the point of entry was.

[Squirelbutt]

well if you have ever welded thick steel it is hard as a bitch to cut because as you heat the end. Heat is transfered through out the metal and it therefore is a heatsink and unles you have a cherry torch also heating the metal in the area it wont cut easy. the towers are skeletal steel giant heatsinks it would never get hot enough to cause warpage so that cheezy fake computer model that has no bearing of truth is not true.

[rrangel81]

Ok so far you have my attention, and I am being sincere. I wanna hear what you think.

[Squirelbutt]

As with melting steel you can see it in the videos. And the firefighters talk about it. Because the investigators didnt mention it. Either they didnt investigate or they were hiding it because they couldnt explain it. As with Scientific American. It is as scientific as the federal reserve is federal. Its a name of a magazine. And the journalist are not scientist they are journalist. Making money doing what they do.

[rrangel81]

There was no melting steel, now I will give you this I have only read material on that subject and not seen a film. If you could point me in the direction of the video I will be more than happy to view it, with an open mind. Now, it will be hard due to the science I know. Is there a video that is not one sided? I rarely read Scientific American, becuase I will agree I think their conclusions are sub par and they steal articles and conclusions from Popular Mechanics.

[Squirelbutt]

Yet you talk about one sided. everything you claim is just that and it doesnt explain the rest of the puzzle. search youtube melted steel. and check out the diffent videos.

[rrangel81]

the one side I talk is the fact that most of the theories you say and belive have been proven wrong.

[Squirelbutt]

no they havent. The debunkers have not proven otherwise.

[rrangel81]

I remember an interview not long after the attacks tahe an engineer was showing some of the crossbeam. and said it fell perfectly the way engineers said it would in case of a disaster.

[Squirelbutt]

Also your popular mechanics mag show a model of a pancake theory. Which was easily debunkable by their own model showing that the core and outside walls would stand but floors fall. And that wasnt even acurate to the floor design. Then they made a stink about the insulation not protecting the steel. the insulation was not there to protect steel. it was there to protect the wiring. from the heat that steel would transfer like a heat sink. dont know if you ever welded before.

[rrangel81]

I have welded before, I hate it. The theory that was shown was the closest way to show how and why. it may not have been conventional, but it was true.

[Squirelbutt]

did you believe steel would explode to bits during the collapse. The outside of the building is all steel columns. Steel would bend or fold possibly but not vaporize at freefall. Then theres building 7. Oh the investitgators never put that one either in their report. I wonder how many more things were not put in that report. You see the investigation was crap. to many loose strings.

[rrangel81]

Once again it never exploded, that was another conspiricy theory. What about building 7 the one they had to blow up due to how unsafe it was?

[Squirelbutt]

theory..??? look at the films again. it did not fall down it disentigrated steel and all. all 4 outside walls of the trade center are steel frame columns on top of each other explain where it disapears to it doesnt peel off and fall down.

[rrangel81]

ok, I wanna know exactly how the steele disentigrated. If you can convince me I am wrong I will admit that I was wrong, now I will have an open mind.

[Squirelbutt]

Demolitions with thermate. Thats one thing the universities analyzed that the reports didnt. They found pieces of structure 3 hundred yards embeded in other buildings. Way outside its footprint. Professional demolitionist use thermate it cuts steel like butter. they remove the core columns then do staged demolitions. if building 7 was rigged to blow who says the towers werent rigged also?

[rrangel81]

But how come in the released 911 tapes and the video that was shot by the brothers following the crew inside the building, not one time is the sound of a bomb going off? and when you have to do demolitions, you have to gut out a building otherwise it won't fall right.

[Squirelbutt]

It takes weeks to set up demolitions and a permit. If they knew before time then they must be in on it. Also the fire was contained. And i find it wierd that the halon bottles didnt put it out since it was in a high level security building. being the cia and such. that is such bullshit. Do you really buy this crap? and it took them 8 years to spin and explain building 7.. your gulible.

[rrangel81]

There are no government agents at CNN, maybe FOX. Also, that investigate 9/11 sign with Obama is so fake. Come on you guys have got to get better computer programming. I mean,according to some of you, the Lee Harvey Oswald looks more legit. By the way there is no conspiriacy on JFK.

[KrustyUnderpants]

thats a lot of stuff to be sure on. Espeically when in this day and age you cannot be sure about anything.

I think the sign was supposed to be fake... an obvious fake. Anyone who has half a brain can figure you out.

[Squirelbutt]

sign is not a fake see video

watch?v=8DYm6TbieIc

[rrangel81]

It is moron

[Squirelbutt]

your a dumbass you havent watch the news video. so shut the fuck asswipe troll.

[rrangel81]

I have watched the video, and troll is that all you have? Pretty hard getting insulted by someone named squirelbutt. Look go to bed pretty soon your gonna wake up mommy and daddy.

[Squirelbutt]

you havent had time to watch any video stfu.

[Squirelbutt]

you insult yourself, no need any help from me.

[rrangel81]

fuck your mother

[Squirelbutt]

Why dont you go rumprape your daddy? Thats what the rr stands for? right?

[rrangel81]

That's pretty good I like that one. No, it's my name what does Squirelbutt mean? Is that the only thing your dick can pleasure.

[rrangel81]

I'm just saying how can you call yourselves truth seekers, if you have a fake sing on your vid?

[KrustyUnderpants]

symbolism?

[rrangel81]

There finaly someone on here gives me an honest answer. But, is there another was to say open an investigation into 9/11. Not, that it's going to happen.

[Squirelbutt]

Because your in denial of the truth and cant handle it. Dont be cynical if you really knew what the facts are youd shut up. The lady who said agents are at cnn is a congresswoman. the sign you can see in this recorded video

watch?v=8DYm6TbieIc

As with JFK want to see one of the people who shot him google "video bill cooper jfk" and watch. THere are the facts you judge.

[rrangel81]

Shit happens, also just because you are a Senator or Congressman or woman does not mean you are smarter or always know what you are talking about ex. Strom Thurman, Jesse Ventura, republicans that believe in creataionism. Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone I am sorry, but i perfer to live happily in reality. Oh, and I do believe in truth and I try not to destort it like you idiots.

[Squirelbutt]

If you have ever even researched cynthia mckinney. She has whistle blowed on the government. and Having that title of representive she has had access to things only a congressperson can see. Keep swallowing the blue pill you pitiful sheeptroll.

[rrangel81]

what is it with you and trolls? and, if even half of what she said had any merit there would be an investigaion, but guess what there was one, they came up with their findings, and now we move on. Well smart people do. thinking the government hatched this plan is just idiotic, for chirst's sake the government fucks up the mail. and please if you are gonna refrence the matrix stop talking you and your life is pointless. Beginning to wish you were on one of those planes instead of 1 of the passan

[Squirelbutt]

And you trust a government of criminials to investigate. Alot of 911 truth has merit. IF the government is guilty they will protect themselves from the public by doing whatever it takes to quelch it. same thing happened to MLK. Thinktanks hatch plans. do you our elect officials control anything? Its the unelected people like the pentagon who run the CIA. The money masters that run worldbanks and oilcompanys. The fact you are apathetic to understanding trueworld history makes you a target.

[rrangel81]

See, now I like where this is going no insults just good talking. Now, if what you are saying is true, this information would have leaked out by now. The media could not wait to get their hands on Bush trying to link what ever they could on him. This would have buried him in the dirt, yet not one newsstation, magazine, or newspaper ran with it as official new. Banks and oil companies do not run the world, why would they be asking for a bailout?

[Squirelbutt]

Actually the media is controlled by corporations. You know the ones all the commercials advertise. No media is going to say any dirt by the people who pay them. As with banks do you understand fractal banking. Banks have been swindling people for years creating money or credit out of thin air with nothing to back them up buying up property and assest with basically iou's its a scam to destroy the economy and claim all for themselves. History repeats. THe bankers own the media. research.

[rrangel81]

No, it's called economics, why would they lend out money and not get paid in return? organiztons, not just banks, have been doing this since the times of bartering. And the media will break the story if there is one; watergate, Vietnam, Iraq War, Darfur, etc....

[Squirelbutt]

they lend out money they dont have thats the scam. Its all numbers in accounting. If 5 percent of the people withdrew thier accounts in cash there would be no cash left in the bank. They are required to keep 5 percent. well thats 100 percent of the banks collateral. Bartering is when you have something tangible to trade. Debt means IOU on paper no actual value.  So now they want taxpayers to give them physical dollars. To replace bad investment they have done. Either in loans or markets.

[rrangel81]

I agree one thing is these banks popped up faster than starbucks in some place and that's what hurt them. And, I have been agaist the bailouts, I think we should have taken that money and turned it into an unemployment nest egg, but that could of also thrown us into a depression.

[WeAreChangeSA]

You again reveal how much you really do not know.

You really site the Official Commission Report DESPITE all its omissions...

The omission of Gerald Posner's account of Abu Zubaydah's testimony, according to which three members of the Saudi royal family---all of whom later died mysteriously within an eight-day period---were funding al-Qaeda and had advance knowledge of the 9/11 attacks (61-65).The Commission's denial that it found any evidence of Saudi funding of al-Qaeda (65-68).

[rrangel81]

There that one I do agree with you I think, and I even told you before there was a little more that needed to be in that report. And, that was one the Saudis were involved. But, never this government, and I even told you there should be another investigation, but not to the extent of what you want. Did we not talk about that before?

[WeAreChangeSA]

"but i perfer to live happily"

- rrangel81

Whatever excuse you use to not do investigative research still does not qualify you to leave over 30 comments on a page, that you supposedly dont agree with....

You dont ever bring up sources to back yourself up.....

You dont ever TRY to debunk the PNAC document...

You dont ever TRY to debunk the official NIST document saying WTC 7 officially fell at FREE FALL speed, and they cant explain why or how...

You are really just making urself look silly

[rrangel81]

I have always backed up with what i have said before, Matthew. But, as always you guys are the first fags to run off. I always challange you and I never ever insult first you guys do all the time.

[WeAreChangeSA]

First of you are now caught in a LIE.

Sarcastic comments from you are not a debate.

You never site sources for your little "happy" theory's Raul....

The proof for that is on these comments pages...haha....

you dont have a point or a reason

Site some sources if you wanna debate my Son

[rrangel81]

First off if I was your son, I'd fly a plane into a building myself. Second, I have been trying to lure you out to finally talk as you always never respond back.

[Squirelbutt]

Hey Matt, do you know this rumpranger81? I mean rrangel81?

[rrangel81]

See, now I was trying to be nice and here you go all wishing I was gay so I would hit on you.

[Squirelbutt]

lol...

[WeAreChangeSA]

we have talked back and forth on here before,

he is a nice guy most of the time

[rrangel81]

Thank you Matt

[rrangel81]

I used to believe in the MLK march and then I saw how political it was getting and it made me wanna puke. I honor a man that stood up for civil rights, in a non- violent movement. And, to see him compared with such dispicable people such as; Malcolm X, Che Guevara, and even Hugo Chavez. And, I beg you stop calling yourselves San Antonio Truth, when you are not the truth. I will be nice and give you a new name San Antonio Conspiracy Theorists, I think that is more than fair.

[WeAreChangeSA]

rrangel81, your last 30 comments on this page have gone ignored due to the

last time i schooled you with Sourced information and you never came back with ANY kind of Sourced info...

So in all reality, YOU are the Theorist.

You never have backed your beliefs with any sourced INFO.....

Operation Northwoods is from our GOV's archive.... NOT A THEORY

PNAC needed a "New Pearl Harbor" in 2000...NOT A THEORY

NIST- WTC 7 fell at Free Speed with no explanation.... NOT A THEORY

rrangel, get a life

[rrangel81]

I have replied back and my statments were mysteriously missing, and I told you about that I even emailed you saying why was I censored, remember. I have a life I just hate when you are saying these people were killed by there government, I do always admit the Bush admin fucked up in many ways, but not in murdering innocent people. and, as for being schooled I have tried to get you into debate, but you always excuse yourself. I have the emails to prove it.

[ottawafro]

Great video and truth action guys. Keep it up. Police behaviour in this video was surprising, they really seemed open to 9/11 Truth as did the crowd.

[rrangel81]

they were only open to keep the crowd under control. My uncle was a cop and he always gathered info packets at different rallies, but would discard them later.