This commentator grossly understates a few facts. When referring to the initial bombers he states "several never made it back". Almost all of them never made it back. Watch the BBC documentary on this, it's more objective.
Often forgot in this epic battle, was that Admiral Bill Halsey was hospitalized just before the Battle of Midway. He could not take his task force, including the carriers Enterprise & Hornet, to sea to fight the Japanese. Instead, Admiral Chester Nimitz has the nerve to give Halsey's command to Admiral Ray Spruintz, who had never skippered an air craft carrier. The United States not only sunk 4 Japanese carriers, but Adm. Spruintz brought the Hornet & Enterprise back to Pearl Harbor undamaged.
What is the connection between the Battle of Midway and 911? Hint its not conspiracy. Its bravery. We should start pairing the bravery of the victims of both
battle of the pacific was largely a racist war that pitted 20% of the Japanese army (the other 80% were in involved in the real war of the pacific, China) against the much larger American navy
watching this mythology anyone would be left thinking that the Anmericans won the second WW, tssss. When the third reich simply moved into the white house, losers.
so if the yanks won here, why did they then go on to commit the greatest crime against humanity ever seen by dropping two nuclear weapons on japanese civilian cities, not much to be proud of there, hypocrits!
@WellSightedGentleman Actually, there were 27 military targets between Hiroshima and Nagasaki. All were legitimate military targets that included barracks, factories, bases, port facilities, and transport infrastructure. Just wanted to keep the truth out there.
Oh by the way, there were to be four Australian divisions deployed to the battle of the mainland if needed. Wonder how many Aussies wouldn't come home if the bombs weren't used.
@Toddinfantry well as my grandfather fought and died in Asia in the 2nd WW, he along with way too many aussies didnt come home, lets not fail to mention the contempory war theatre in which way too many young aussies will not be returning from either. Civilian cities bombed with nuclear weapons is justifiable to noone. That attack made the Night of fog and mist in germany, a walk in the park.
Our men said "lest we forget" when they returned, and it seems they said it for your sake.
@WellSightedGentleman Respect to your Grandfather and family for his service and their loss. These were not just "civilian" targets, not at all. I fully understand the irrationality of using nuclear weapons, but we do not live in that time. We cannot judge the actions of the past, our modern mindset doesn't recognize the mindset of the war years. The only "justification" is that when you are in a total war, use whatever means to destroy your enemy as fast as possible and hopefully save lives.
@WellSightedGentleman The nucs were used not only for the purpose of forcing the Japanese (the Japanese military) into surrender, but as a show of force to the Russians. Unfortunately, war and world politics isn't a two sided coin...more like a Rubik's Cube. The bombs were horrible, but no more so than the fire bombings of Tokyo (or Dresden) which created more casualties than the nucs. Remember, the Generals of the time were still somewhat ruled by WW1 mentality.
@WellSightedGentleman DU is being phased out rapidly as other heavy metals can do the same function. DU was a very viable weapon improvement that came to be because of the cold war. Fear creates many things and DU was one of them. We live in an age where we can look back in time, with more information, and become Oh So Smart about so many things that have happened. In reality, we forget the mentality of the times and as such try to impose our modern belief system. Doesn't work that way.
@Toddinfantry hence semiotic historical reflexivity is essential in gaining deeper understanding by going over the past and looking again with both new and old eyes.
thankyou for your kind reply, though it suffices to say IMHO that the use of DU in the cold war and in the current conquestorial wars is simply spreading that toxin all over the place to go on and continue to hurt innocent people. But yes youre right, there are plenty of alternative metal and pragmatic delivery systems in place ATM
@WellSightedGentleman That is why I study military history so extensively, lessons of the past are lessons for the future.
DU was only developed and tested during the cold war, which was long over before the actual munition was used in battle. In the overall scheme of things, I don't believe that DU rounds will be that toxic. they were used in a fairly uninhabited area, most 30mm rounds impacted the earth and are yards down and some on the surface will corrode over time since they con't....
@WellSightedGentleman con't... are not stable where open to weather. Most DU dust from armor strikes spontaneously ignites thereby neutralizing its effect. It will take time to see the real effects, but keep in mind that DU is used for many things other than weapons/armor.These include: ballast and counterweights; balancing control devices on aircraft; balancing and vibration damping on aircraft; machinery ballast and counterweights; gyrorotors and other shielding in medicine and industry. con't
@WellSightedGentleman con't... Many think that the hype over this is fear of the unknown and ignorance to the thought that anything radiological is dangerous. I am glad that other alloys are being developed and used to replace DU, but there is nothing as effective as it for punching holes in armor at great range.
Easily one of the most important of WWll. If the Japs would have triumphed at Midway, they destroy our air power for thousands of miles. That means air raids over Cali.
Vastly outnumbered, the US hinged their victory on the boldness and bravery of a few airmen who flew off those decks knowing they'd probably never see land again. With just a lick of fuel left, they fell upon the enemy armada, destroying the lifeblood of the Japanese Navy in mere minutes.
This battle is a story of America. What being an American used to mean. You take the resources you have and you take a god damn chance, fighting for an idea you knew was just.
"This battle is a story of America. What being an American used to mean. You take the resources you have and you take a god damn chance, fighting for an idea you knew was just."
How right you are. Then we must ask the question, how many of us would make a similar sacrifice for what this country has become?
@PoetsLight Well, said! The nerve of those pilots to go forward when their fuel tanks said, turn back. Alleluiah! The nerve of Admiral Spruintz, to launch his aircraft from maximum range. Alleluiah! The nerve of Admiral Nimitz to send the Yorktown back in to action just days after being nearly blown out of the water at Coral Sea. Alleluiah! The nerve of Admiral Nimitz, to send his fleet to Midway when Washington was warning him to instead protect the west coast and Hawaiian Islands. Alleluiah!
america still means that. we just need the bold leadership to not compromise with enemies that threaten us. we need to give ultimatums instead. thats how you should handle the terrorists and the communist gov. of china. not puff up their arrogance by being nice. but deflate that arrogance by leaning hard on them. but it takes guts to do that. i for one havent seen any of that recently. that doesnt mean its not there there it just hasnt been shown for far too long. its about time its shown now.
@elchippe thats very true. but thats no excuse to be complacent or pessimistic. the world will always change. you have to change with it. you also have to maintain some backbone so that it doesnt change you to death. God gave man authority over all things. but man has made many wrong choices with his free will. so there has to come along a man who will make the right choices for a change. its not impossible, but perhaps unlikely. what a shame. but we cant give up hope. that solves nothing.
7 carriers ????? seven??? we sank 4 so what happned to the other three? are they still sailing around somewhere? they forgot to mention three of them were US Navy carriers!
im only 16 and even i know war is fucked up there is no proper way to conduct war no matter what people die and i not saying its a great thing for innocent civilians to die but it had to be done and besides the japanese did way worse things to the chinese after they invaded china
The narrator says David vs Goliath but this is severely (and constantly) overstated. Other than the 4 carriers and a few escort ships the bulk of the IJN fleet was 600 miles to the west. The 2 fleets that actually met at Midway were fairly evenly matched: 4 carriers vs 3 carriers. Any luck we had was in the fact the Japanese refused to deviate from their battle plans; they never allowed for the possibility that we would actually be waiting for them.
When the usa is down and out what do they do!?! they bomb the shit out of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. The bombs they dropped wearnt even close to Japanese army bases. They dropped them where the highest civilian population was. Pretty sick I know. They knew they couldent win the war army to army, so they had to play dirty. Atleast when japanese bombed PH it was directed at army base.
@h5y what are you talking about? the U.S. defeated the japanese at midway with a force ONE FOURTH the size of the enemy, then had to take a series of pacific islands up to the marianas before they were ever able to launch ground based bombing raids against the mainland. this all happened at the same time the U.S. tipped the balance in the war against germany. don't open your mouth if you don't know the facts.
and yeah, the bombing raids were brutal, but it's war man, you weren't there.
@h5y they done that cause they knew that would subdue th japanese into an automatic surrender. not only that but they pretty much defeated th japanese army in th pacific anyway. soo I don't get where you are going with this besides th fact that bombs were dropped where civilians were present... now what countries that were actually involved in th war or/and included because armies crossed paths there didn't have 'bombs dropped on civilians'??....
@h5y Plus it was estimated there would of been even MORE casualties if the United States invaded the Japanese mainland than if they dropped the Atomic Bombs. And in way there is no such thing as playing nice, army to army, one of the only ways to win is through deception and surprise... get your facts straight
@xxxxxUndisputedxxxxx Japan nor did Hitler understand the full capacity at which the US was capable of. The biggest underestimation was the United States production and industrialization capabilities. We came to being able to manufacture (100+) P51 war planes per month. That was tough producing for the 1940s.
I've read a lot about Midway and the IJN. I've met a few IJN midway veterans in my life. I admire them a lot. Whenever I read about Midway I can't help but feel a pang of emotion at the tragedy of Midway, and what happened to Dai ichi Kido Butai, as superb and excellent a weapon as it was, as a consequence of the incompetence of IJN GHQ. But of course the tragedy is offset to a degree by the undoubted heriosm of Fletcher and Spruance, and especially the Dauntless dive bombers. A great battle!!!
My Dad was on the Yorktown at Coral Sea and Midway. I still have a few items from the ship he had sent home to my mother (menus, original Squadron embroidery, flight manifest from June 4th) stuff like that. I will probably donate it one day. Mostly I watch these films to see if I can catch a glimpse of my Dad and to try to get a feel for what it must have been like to be 17 years old in the middle of the ocean and planes diving on your ship in all directions.
@jeffandjune The USS Yorktown Historic Society would love to put your father's artifacts on display. I live in Charleston, SC and they are always looking for display items such as this. An actual flight manifest from that day would be amazing to see.
I am proud to be able to say that my Father was one of the carrier pilots who flew off of the Hornet II at the Battle of Midway. Since I was around four years old, my Father told me about catching the Japanese carriers with their decks full of planes unable to launch them. A difference of thirty-five minutes for the intersect and those planes would have been either airborne or in the process of taking off for the American Fleet.
Japs had never 11 carriers at Midway that's massive error by the narrator by all accounts the US sank 4 , 3 of which were destroyed in one day . the 4th was taken later because Nimitz wanted that 4th Carrier .. and the Japs had thought they had sunk the Yorktown at Coral Sea a month before it ..
And the Japs didn't know they were up against 3 US Carriers only 2 Hornet and Enterprise
@Toddinfantry The Military History of World War II: Volume 13 THE AIR WAR IN THE PACIFIC: AIR POWER LEADS THE WAY. It's pretty old, I don't know if it is accurate or not but it seems to be. It has a drawing showing the dispostion of various forces before, during, and after the battle. It lists the military time of major events of the battle. It shows the Hiryu sinking an 01:00 June 5.
@clintonearlwalker Try reading the book "Shattered Sword". It is the definitive study of this battle and will clear up a lot of questions. I just finished it...amazing the amount of research done here.
The Hiryu, according to this, sank around 0907 June 5.
@Toddinfantry Either way apparently the Hiryu sank on June 5, the other 3 carriers sank on the 4th. I may check out Shattered Sword, I've read and seen a great deal on Midway, been reading about it since at least 1972.
@clintonearlwalker Sorry, but can't be either way. There are famous photos taken of the Hiryu on the morning of June 5 by the Japanese scout aircraft. Many of the Hiryu crew watched from the Makigumo as she fired two torpedoes at Hiryu. The first missed, the second struck forward. This was done at first light, around 0530, and the ship sunk about 4 hrs later.
@Toddinfantry The only reason I left a comment on this vid in the first place is cuz u said all 4 Jap carriers were destroyed on the same day. Clearly, they were not. The Kaga, Soryu, and Akagi were sunk on June 4. The Hiryu sunk June 5
@clintonearlwalker Fair enough, but I stand by the comment, all four were destroyed on June 4. Hiryu was useless (destroyed) after the attack on her, just didn't sink until the next day.
I don't mean to get into pissing contests, I just want this piece of history to be remembered correctly.
@Toddinfantry Cheers! Wikipedia has an "order of battle" but didn't list the time of sinking of the Hiryu. I was just on a website that listed the time of the sinking as 0230 June 5. It seems that Bob Ballard went looking for the sunken Jap carriers, I don't remember if he found them or not. All 4 were sunk and there were many American heros in that battle, and a lot of luck.
@Toddinfantry Wikipedia also said something else. Apparently 3 Americans were "rescued" by the Japanese. Also it said, 2 of them had their hands and feet bound, their legs weighted, and tossed overboard. Good riddance to the Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu, and Soryu.
@clintonearlwalker I believe there were nine Americans that were pulled from the water by the Japanese, all were executed at some point. I have also read the account of the one's tossed overboard.
@Toddinfantry hey, I just wanted to say I learned something by reading your and clintonearlwalker's exchange. You two guys are an example of how 2 people should resolve issues on utube. So many video comments are nothing but arguementative filth and vulgarities. You two are gentlemen, and I just wanted to recognize both of you for being just that. Gentlemen.
@justaflyguy1 Thank you. I never use profanity on the Tube and always try to see other sides. I try to study my subjects hard, learn the truth, and keep the truth spread. CEW was a good discussion, and I had just finished an intensive research period of this battle based on a newer book on the subject, so I feel I had a slight upper hand.
It is great to see that UTube can be used for more than angry trolling.
@Toddinfantry "leaving Hiryū ablaze, despite being defended by a strong cover of more than a dozen Zero fighters. Vice Admiral Yamaguchi chose to go down with his ship when she sank on June 5" Wikipedia There is also a photogragh taken in daylight entitiled "shortly before Hiryu sank". I don't even remember what this argument was about but clearly 3 Jap carriers were sunk on the 4th, and 1 on the 5th. Cheers!!
@clintonearlwalker That's why in World War II, whenever the Japanese "rescued" somebody, it wasn't exactly rescue (unless it's a Japanese being rescued). If I were stranded in the ocean at Midway, I'd probably have taken my chances with the sharks and exposure and hope a PBY found me, like George Gay did, than risk being "rescued" by a Japanese ship.
@clintonearlwalker Well, George Gay hid himself under his seat cushion after he got out of his plane, and positioned his cushion between him and the closest Japanese ship. Luckily, the Japanese didn't see him, or decided he was dead, and didn't pick him up. Not that that would work every time, but playing dead is always worth a try. And if the Japanese did pick me up, I would tell them nothing and say, "I know nothing!", knowing that they would probably kill me whether I said anything or not.
@rhall4th I've never heard that George Gay hid under a seat cushion, he was extremely lucky irregardless. If I remember he was the only person to survive from his squadron. Much of the movie "Midway" came from his story, I remember reading it in "The Readers Digest" in about 1968. I looked at your page, seen military movies. Two great German movies posted on YouTube, "Downfall", "Sohpie Scholl The Final Days", also "Sgt York" is great. I've seen nearly all military movies more than once.
@clintonearlwalker Great! I'll check out those movies Downfall, Sophie Scholl The Final Days, and Sgt. York
And George Gay was very lucky indeed. Search on YouTube for Hook Down, Wheels Down (Part 4). At 7:22, there's an interview with Mr. Gay, where he shares his experiences from the battle (this video was made in the '70s, so he was still alive). I've also read Sole Survivor, which is his autobiography.
@rhall4th Sgt York is about an American WW 1 hero, Alvin C. York, it's an American classic. "To Hell and Back" is the story of Audie Murphy in WW II. I've seen many war movies multiple times. "The Enemy Below" is about submarines in WW II. "The Flying Tigers", "Sands of Iwo Jima", "The Fighting Seabees" with John Wayne are all great. I'm going to bed. Cheers!!!
bad leadership in japan in that era caused all this. never had the capacity to defeat U.S. hirohito and his right wing mates brought so much death on their country
Hiryu, Soryu, Akagi and Kaga. The pride of the Imperial Japanese Navy with it's "cream of the crop" naval aviators. When those 4 carriers went beneath the waves of the Pacific the dreams of the Japs for their own empire sank with them...
interesting i didn't know that, but i had read that if japs would dicided to invade the Hawaii island and took midway the war would be almost impossible for americans, even the japs know that they were superior in army, navy but inferior in economical power, this are the kind of things i don't understand about war
if they took out they entire American PAcific Fleet the Whole Pacific would be opened to invasion and if the whole fleet was gone then they didnt have to invade because the whole pacific was opened to attack and on one was going to stop them.
P.S. If it sounds confusing i can make it a lot more easy to undertand. :) <3
u mean american fleet could make a complete and direct attack to japan instead of islands? for that moment, japs had the strongest fleet and the could stop the american fleet at the sea by a long time
@POLO11220 no i meant to say is that if the american fleet was blown away completely then the Japanese would take control of the pacific and could attack the west coast of america
i was talking about if the japanese eliminated our fleet.
@thephiber as long as there is race religion nations there will be no peace ever in this life time or the next only the questing of global dominance period. but the american team has and always be the good team, esp when we oust these scumbags in office, keeping it real
@HapaLife The British Intelligence Service had broken the Japanese code before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and had informed Roosevelt about the coming attack but he decided that he needed all the support of Congress to enter the conflict which was extremely unpopular in the States and so he effectively condemned about 5000 American servicemen to death.
@exenforcer IJN a short time before Pearl Harbor changed over it's code and no intelligence service was able to do what you described in your fantasy.
@fluffy1931 From analyzing Japan's diplomatic traffic (her PURPLE code, which was broken months before Pearl Harbor), the U.S. knew that an attack was coming in December 1941, and knew, fairly accurately, when it would come, but didn't know exactly where it would occur.
@rhall4th The break into PURPLE was a considerable cryptographic triumph. . but Japans military dictatorship had little trust in civilians especially entrusting military plans too the diplomatic corp prior to Pearl Harbor.
In Japan the military, essentially determinined foreign policy for Japan, distrusted the Foreign Office and left it "out of the loop".
No the US did'nt know when the attack would come pls. return to your'e conspiracy bunker.
@fluffy1931 That's true that the Japanese military dominated politics in Japan. U.S. codebreakers could only obtain very limited amounts of information about Japanese intentions from Japan's diplomatic traffic. (continued)
@fluffy1931 In the week before Pearl Harbor the U.S. was stepping up its preparation for attack, sending B-17s to the Philippines and reinforcing Midway and Wake (this is why our carriers weren't caught in Pearl during the attack - they were out ferrying fighters to Midway and Wake). And I'm not implying that FDR had anything to do with the attack, so don't call me a revisionist.
@fluffy1931 The U.S. did not know where the attack would occur, but they knew an attack was bound to come, and they had a vague idea of when it would take place, based on decoding the 14-part message, instructing the Japanese embassy in Washington to deliver their message to the U.S. government at "precisely 1 PM" and then destroy their cypher and secret documents, and based on the sighting of a Japanese expeditionary force heading toward Malaya. Watch Tora Tora Tora.
@rhall4th The message is not a declaration of war, and did not even break off negotiations. Beyond a recapitulation of Japanese grievances against the U.S., and the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, there doesn't seem to be any real point to the message at all. The record from Japanese sources shows that the meeting called to write it didn't convene until 12:44 pm, Dec. 7th, Pearl Harbor time.
Midway was the key battle of the Pacific, but there were many more battles where the U.S. Navy stood toe to toe with Imperial Navy and ultimately defeated a navy that was one of the best of its time. Think taffy 5.
the germans could've defeated either brittain, america or russia, but not all 3 together, the truth is brittain would've been conquered if it wasnt for the US, and the US couldnt have won without brittain, it was teamwork, the brits helped a lot in ww2, except for that montgomery, never liked him...i think that the day jap attacked pearl harbor winst churchill mustve been like "fuck yea, new allies", and hitler mustve been like "oh...shit, damn japanese, as if i wasnt battling the world already"
america came inro the war to save their asses for they knew they were the next target If the axis wonso they had to enter the war but Britain first n Russia close seond defeated them yanks are 3rd in ww3
Find the book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". You'll find that the inspections that France was supposed to continue, were stopped in 1925. (This should sound familiar since Iraq was undergoing inspections as well when Saddam stopped them)
There's much more to WW2 than most are told, for to forget the past is to condemn it to be repeated.
The author Herman Wouk said in War and Remembrance - "what the Americans did at Midway on 4 June, 1942 stopped, at least for the 20th century, the rising tide of Asian power". This was one of the most important battles in human history. The Imperial Navy never recovered from what it lost at Midway.
it's amazing how this battle changed hands so many times before the americans finally got and held the upper hand... it was not a slam dunk win by any means... but certainly the most pivotal battle win of the war
Some people might like to think about not belittling the deeds done by others long ago, get off the computer, (and their butts) and do some deeds of their own!!
Wow video, way to not mention in any way the Marine Corps Buffaloes and Wildcats that went up to try and stop the Japanese strike on the island. And It wasn't one group of American SBDs, it was three, two from Enterprise, one from Yorktown, that found the carrier group, and they weren't lost, either. That being said, that color shot of SBDs from Enterprise near the end was beautiful :)
Agreed that Russians MIGHT have played the most crucial role, but the Brits are not above the Americans... Brittian was being pounded and surely would had been invaded (most likely not conquered however) if not for America...
That's not disrespect to any nation.. The Germans just had a powerful war machine
um no lol. The Russians got 45% of there supplies from the USA and the the British got a lot too, by 1944 on the western front the USA was the largest Allied army on that side. why do you think the U.S was in command of all allied forces by then?
keep in mind why'll the U.S was fighting the Germans they had a huge military fighting in the pacific
I want women of all nations to know that you can have a free ticket into the usa.. K1 visa! Marry him..and when he uses the The F word.. Claim verbal Abuse..And you got your shortcut.. America is yours.Case In point Princess Mata Padilla,,Philippines
where the fuk Japaneze had 7 carriers? They had 4 carrier, godam propaganda movie. After WWII, US made the most propaganda movies ever, and now their population is brainwashed. 9/11, terrorism, i hope u guys wake up at some point.
Japanese Order of Battle actually shows eight carriers of various sizes in the MI operation: Kido Butai: Akagi (CV) Kaga (CV) Hiryu (CV) Soryu (CV) Aleutian Force: Ryujo (CVL) Junyo (CVL) Invation Force: Zuiho (CVL) Main Body (BatDiv1) Hosho (CVE)
As to "seven battleships", the USN's code breakers really expected only two or three BBs in the Kido Butai escort group (there were only two, Haruna and Kirishima). Yamamoto's "Main Body" had seven BBs split into two forces--and the USN was unaware of its presence in the overall Midway operation.
idragon2003 your are a true retard the japs, had more then 4 carriers at the start of the battle then t split some Carriers and sent them North. it's not Propaganda it's truth and you might know that if you picked up a book or two
Yah... we know... the US is the reason for all the bad things in the world. That's why you should stay where you are... in that second rate country you're from.
im sorry weeDaire but britain in no way lead in the war america did join because of pearl harbor. germany had britain almost to its knees with the u-boats first when they sank the royal oak in 1939 britain had no fuel, food, or other supplies. ships had to bring the supplies from america and canada during the battle of the atlantic u-boats sank almost 6,000 merchcant ships and more than 30,000 men died
Uh, so who exactly fought Germany for the first 3 years? The US did not "join" the war. They declared war on Japan. Hitler, in his second stupidest move (Barbarossa was #1) declared war on the US, forcing their hand. The loss of Royal Oak, a WWI battleship, was a propaganda loss only. The U-boat war was solved by many things, certainly US aid, but also Huff-Duff, the Leigh Light, radar, cracking Enigma, the drastic increase of the RCN, and a host of others. It was a co-op effort.
Yup, the truth is tha the britsh fought against unknow technlogy ..... US fought an already tired miltary foce with equal technology and even more US hadits mass production going on .....
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No one want to see the war.
In fact that ,When USA join the WW2 it is a turning point. For CHINESE can use model wepons. Before Link with USA Chinese only using WW1 wepons or knife,seldom GERMAN WEPONES to fright JAPANESE no fighter or tank.USA mass production tanks to help EU battlefield.and P51,P38 are favlour fighterin WW2.
I'm a Brit and considering I'm not ruled by a Fascist government (despite what some Brits might think) so all parties fighting against the Axis did their bit.
Also remember that Germany and Japan made the decision to attack other nations, so their forces were large and well trained. Britain and America only started building their large forces well afterward.
an america think they'll a chosen by god 2 rule a whole world, what a fucking shit.. japs have everything, a discipline soldier who want sacrifice for their nation. the japs will win the war in leyte gulf, midway. but the fate is fate... now... japan is the great nation in the world... banzaiii.....
Moral of the story. We won at Midway. And never fucking looked back. Pushing our air superiority to full advantage, we rolled the japs all the way back to their homeland.
Moral of the story.
Don't attack us thinking we Americans will be cowed. For we Americans will fight back with the fury of demons from hell itself.
For all our faults, hypocrisies, and divisions we come from a land of violence and will defend ourselves as such.
WW2 is idolized to look like the Americans are the heroes and did everything. What the fuck did America do. It was the millions of Russians and Chinese who gave their lives to stop the Germans and Japanese. Fuck, even Italy suffered more deaths in the second world war than America. WW2 was like fucking 20 countries on 8, and it took you 4 years to beat a tiny island nation LAWL
We idolized WW2 becuz it is the last war where we were "the good guys".
And actually I'm going agree with you about Russian having more to do with stopping Germany than us.
But calling Japan a "tiny island nation" is misleading and you know it. Japan was dominating in the Pacific theater and it was'nt until this battle of midway that their aura of invincibility was shattered.
Furthermore what are you upset about? We let canadians fight a little too so you could pretend to contribute.
If there were honestly a god, then the war wouldn't have happened in the first place. Factories won the war, not something as foolish as some nonexistant god. Why do you think Japan attacked Midway in the first place? Because if they won here, then that would end the war, and they wouldn't have to match the vastly greater American output of Materiel.
This commentator grossly understates a few facts. When referring to the initial bombers he states "several never made it back". Almost all of them never made it back. Watch the BBC documentary on this, it's more objective.
Tehui1974 2 weeks ago
@Tehui1974 I rather go watch the Fox.
xValerieBeliebs 3 days ago
Had Nagumo launched his strike ten or five minutes early, 10.15 for example and the history was complet different.
justiciaideal46 3 weeks ago
If those planes had failed, USA was fucked, and Germany in Europe would have no big problems with they, and would continue their campaing
Its strange because I cant imagine USA losing a war
Fabiolinks 4 months ago
@Fabiolinks and vietnam?
xavilacoste69 2 months ago
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Fabiolinks 4 months ago
@fellohide yes, seeing those four jap carriers burning exactly 6 months after Pearl was glorious.. nicely depicted in the imperfect movie Midway...
irish89055 4 months ago
TRADUZCAN AL ESPAÑOL SUBTITULADOS POR FAVOR !!! NO TODO EL MUNDO HABLA INGLES IDIOTAS!!!
danielramos56 5 months ago
Often forgot in this epic battle, was that Admiral Bill Halsey was hospitalized just before the Battle of Midway. He could not take his task force, including the carriers Enterprise & Hornet, to sea to fight the Japanese. Instead, Admiral Chester Nimitz has the nerve to give Halsey's command to Admiral Ray Spruintz, who had never skippered an air craft carrier. The United States not only sunk 4 Japanese carriers, but Adm. Spruintz brought the Hornet & Enterprise back to Pearl Harbor undamaged.
ilovegod300 5 months ago
What is the connection between the Battle of Midway and 911? Hint its not conspiracy. Its bravery. We should start pairing the bravery of the victims of both
OnlineAutoAuctions 6 months ago
battle of the pacific was largely a racist war that pitted 20% of the Japanese army (the other 80% were in involved in the real war of the pacific, China) against the much larger American navy
SelfHatingWhite 7 months ago
@SelfHatingWhite Really? Please provide a source.
boalsr21 7 months ago
@SelfHatingWhite So they pit the army against the navy? lol
letsride84 7 months ago
@SelfHatingWhite The US was also fighting in Western Europe, Africa, and Italy, in case you forgot.
PoetsLight 5 months ago
@SelfHatingWhite Race war, please explain your comment ???
TROPICALWATERBUM1 4 months ago
watching this mythology anyone would be left thinking that the Anmericans won the second WW, tssss. When the third reich simply moved into the white house, losers.
WellSightedGentleman 8 months ago
so if the yanks won here, why did they then go on to commit the greatest crime against humanity ever seen by dropping two nuclear weapons on japanese civilian cities, not much to be proud of there, hypocrits!
WellSightedGentleman 8 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman Actually, there were 27 military targets between Hiroshima and Nagasaki. All were legitimate military targets that included barracks, factories, bases, port facilities, and transport infrastructure. Just wanted to keep the truth out there.
Oh by the way, there were to be four Australian divisions deployed to the battle of the mainland if needed. Wonder how many Aussies wouldn't come home if the bombs weren't used.
Toddinfantry 8 months ago
@Toddinfantry well as my grandfather fought and died in Asia in the 2nd WW, he along with way too many aussies didnt come home, lets not fail to mention the contempory war theatre in which way too many young aussies will not be returning from either. Civilian cities bombed with nuclear weapons is justifiable to noone. That attack made the Night of fog and mist in germany, a walk in the park.
Our men said "lest we forget" when they returned, and it seems they said it for your sake.
Just the truth
WellSightedGentleman 8 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman Respect to your Grandfather and family for his service and their loss. These were not just "civilian" targets, not at all. I fully understand the irrationality of using nuclear weapons, but we do not live in that time. We cannot judge the actions of the past, our modern mindset doesn't recognize the mindset of the war years. The only "justification" is that when you are in a total war, use whatever means to destroy your enemy as fast as possible and hopefully save lives.
Toddinfantry 8 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman The nucs were used not only for the purpose of forcing the Japanese (the Japanese military) into surrender, but as a show of force to the Russians. Unfortunately, war and world politics isn't a two sided coin...more like a Rubik's Cube. The bombs were horrible, but no more so than the fire bombings of Tokyo (or Dresden) which created more casualties than the nucs. Remember, the Generals of the time were still somewhat ruled by WW1 mentality.
Toddinfantry 8 months ago
@Toddinfantry what about the use of D.U amongst both members of the military and civilians today?
WellSightedGentleman 4 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman DU is being phased out rapidly as other heavy metals can do the same function. DU was a very viable weapon improvement that came to be because of the cold war. Fear creates many things and DU was one of them. We live in an age where we can look back in time, with more information, and become Oh So Smart about so many things that have happened. In reality, we forget the mentality of the times and as such try to impose our modern belief system. Doesn't work that way.
Toddinfantry 4 months ago
@Toddinfantry hence semiotic historical reflexivity is essential in gaining deeper understanding by going over the past and looking again with both new and old eyes.
thankyou for your kind reply, though it suffices to say IMHO that the use of DU in the cold war and in the current conquestorial wars is simply spreading that toxin all over the place to go on and continue to hurt innocent people. But yes youre right, there are plenty of alternative metal and pragmatic delivery systems in place ATM
WellSightedGentleman 4 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman That is why I study military history so extensively, lessons of the past are lessons for the future.
DU was only developed and tested during the cold war, which was long over before the actual munition was used in battle. In the overall scheme of things, I don't believe that DU rounds will be that toxic. they were used in a fairly uninhabited area, most 30mm rounds impacted the earth and are yards down and some on the surface will corrode over time since they con't....
Toddinfantry 4 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman con't... are not stable where open to weather. Most DU dust from armor strikes spontaneously ignites thereby neutralizing its effect. It will take time to see the real effects, but keep in mind that DU is used for many things other than weapons/armor.These include: ballast and counterweights; balancing control devices on aircraft; balancing and vibration damping on aircraft; machinery ballast and counterweights; gyrorotors and other shielding in medicine and industry. con't
Toddinfantry 4 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman con't... Many think that the hype over this is fear of the unknown and ignorance to the thought that anything radiological is dangerous. I am glad that other alloys are being developed and used to replace DU, but there is nothing as effective as it for punching holes in armor at great range.
Toddinfantry 4 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman
Either take that death toll or expect a bigger toll because the war would have continued
DoctoWorld 7 months ago
@WellSightedGentleman
That was three years and two months later you moronic imbecile. Learn some history. The war wasn't at all won in this battle, like in a heartbeat.
askjiir 4 months ago
@askjiir you're right, tyranny against humanity has reigned strong ever since
-from where we all now know.
How is it that civilian casualities mean nothing unless theyre "our" civilians?
Ask both my grandfathers, who both served through the entire war, would say,
"yeah, them yanks and their cigarettes- HAH"
WellSightedGentleman 4 months ago
what is really sad is that pia got kicked off american idol !
morgankitty1 9 months ago
Easily one of the most important of WWll. If the Japs would have triumphed at Midway, they destroy our air power for thousands of miles. That means air raids over Cali.
StonewallJackson26 10 months ago
Vastly outnumbered, the US hinged their victory on the boldness and bravery of a few airmen who flew off those decks knowing they'd probably never see land again. With just a lick of fuel left, they fell upon the enemy armada, destroying the lifeblood of the Japanese Navy in mere minutes.
This battle is a story of America. What being an American used to mean. You take the resources you have and you take a god damn chance, fighting for an idea you knew was just.
PoetsLight 10 months ago 23
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@PoetsLight
"This battle is a story of America. What being an American used to mean. You take the resources you have and you take a god damn chance, fighting for an idea you knew was just."
How right you are. Then we must ask the question, how many of us would make a similar sacrifice for what this country has become?
joesphx19 8 months ago
@PoetsLight Well, said! The nerve of those pilots to go forward when their fuel tanks said, turn back. Alleluiah! The nerve of Admiral Spruintz, to launch his aircraft from maximum range. Alleluiah! The nerve of Admiral Nimitz to send the Yorktown back in to action just days after being nearly blown out of the water at Coral Sea. Alleluiah! The nerve of Admiral Nimitz, to send his fleet to Midway when Washington was warning him to instead protect the west coast and Hawaiian Islands. Alleluiah!
ilovegod300 5 months ago
@PoetsLight youre g**damn right, thank you.
fergie123able 3 months ago
america still means that. we just need the bold leadership to not compromise with enemies that threaten us. we need to give ultimatums instead. thats how you should handle the terrorists and the communist gov. of china. not puff up their arrogance by being nice. but deflate that arrogance by leaning hard on them. but it takes guts to do that. i for one havent seen any of that recently. that doesnt mean its not there there it just hasnt been shown for far too long. its about time its shown now.
bigblondman1 2 months ago
@bigblondman1 The world is not the same anymore.
elchippe 1 month ago
@elchippe thats very true. but thats no excuse to be complacent or pessimistic. the world will always change. you have to change with it. you also have to maintain some backbone so that it doesnt change you to death. God gave man authority over all things. but man has made many wrong choices with his free will. so there has to come along a man who will make the right choices for a change. its not impossible, but perhaps unlikely. what a shame. but we cant give up hope. that solves nothing.
bigblondman1 1 month ago
7 carriers ????? seven??? we sank 4 so what happned to the other three? are they still sailing around somewhere? they forgot to mention three of them were US Navy carriers!
Fronte999 10 months ago
7 carriers ????? seven??? we sank 4 so what happned to the other three? are they still sailing around somewhere?
Fronte999 10 months ago
@Fronte999 they where further North attacking Alaska
Dogmeat1950 9 months ago
im talking about hiroshima below by the way
johnito2009 11 months ago
to all you dumbfucks out there listen up
im only 16 and even i know war is fucked up there is no proper way to conduct war no matter what people die and i not saying its a great thing for innocent civilians to die but it had to be done and besides the japanese did way worse things to the chinese after they invaded china
johnito2009 11 months ago
@johnito2009 very wise 16yo let all your mates know wht is real before all the books are changed by scumbags in ofc.
steveo451 10 months ago
The narrator says David vs Goliath but this is severely (and constantly) overstated. Other than the 4 carriers and a few escort ships the bulk of the IJN fleet was 600 miles to the west. The 2 fleets that actually met at Midway were fairly evenly matched: 4 carriers vs 3 carriers. Any luck we had was in the fact the Japanese refused to deviate from their battle plans; they never allowed for the possibility that we would actually be waiting for them.
presleyrules 11 months ago
If they hadn't dropped the bombs, the war would've continued even longer, and just as many people, if not more, would have died.
Kazu0200 1 year ago
When the usa is down and out what do they do!?! they bomb the shit out of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. The bombs they dropped wearnt even close to Japanese army bases. They dropped them where the highest civilian population was. Pretty sick I know. They knew they couldent win the war army to army, so they had to play dirty. Atleast when japanese bombed PH it was directed at army base.
h5y 1 year ago
@h5y what are you talking about? the U.S. defeated the japanese at midway with a force ONE FOURTH the size of the enemy, then had to take a series of pacific islands up to the marianas before they were ever able to launch ground based bombing raids against the mainland. this all happened at the same time the U.S. tipped the balance in the war against germany. don't open your mouth if you don't know the facts.
and yeah, the bombing raids were brutal, but it's war man, you weren't there.
thebassline707 1 year ago
@h5y they done that cause they knew that would subdue th japanese into an automatic surrender. not only that but they pretty much defeated th japanese army in th pacific anyway. soo I don't get where you are going with this besides th fact that bombs were dropped where civilians were present... now what countries that were actually involved in th war or/and included because armies crossed paths there didn't have 'bombs dropped on civilians'??....
kinglijah 1 year ago
@h5y Plus it was estimated there would of been even MORE casualties if the United States invaded the Japanese mainland than if they dropped the Atomic Bombs. And in way there is no such thing as playing nice, army to army, one of the only ways to win is through deception and surprise... get your facts straight
Mrinsane932 11 months ago
A great come back victory for our American allies:}! Payback is a bitch!
RFKFANTS67 1 year ago
This battle was won with pure luck and on of the worst navigational error known to man. Not balls or skills
AzyrenIshida 1 year ago
Very stupid war by Japan. Japan shouldn't have fought U.S. with that less preparing.
xxxxxUndisputedxxxxx 1 year ago
@xxxxxUndisputedxxxxx Japan nor did Hitler understand the full capacity at which the US was capable of. The biggest underestimation was the United States production and industrialization capabilities. We came to being able to manufacture (100+) P51 war planes per month. That was tough producing for the 1940s.
elvisfan22 1 year ago
The Hiryu was bombed and fatally crippled in the late afternoon of June 4th, but actually sank in the early morning of the 5th.
rhall4th 1 year ago
PEACE NOT WAR
poisonNova123 1 year ago
japanese had 8 carriers, 4 of them crushed in 5 minutes. Thanks to hackers who break into Jap communication.
runrunforest1 1 year ago
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GothicKnight2 1 year ago
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GothicKnight2 1 year ago
6:45 - 6:47 ... dress whites in the heat of battle!
GothicKnight2 1 year ago
@GothicKnight2 Officers always know how to dress well!
rhall4th 1 year ago
I've read a lot about Midway and the IJN. I've met a few IJN midway veterans in my life. I admire them a lot. Whenever I read about Midway I can't help but feel a pang of emotion at the tragedy of Midway, and what happened to Dai ichi Kido Butai, as superb and excellent a weapon as it was, as a consequence of the incompetence of IJN GHQ. But of course the tragedy is offset to a degree by the undoubted heriosm of Fletcher and Spruance, and especially the Dauntless dive bombers. A great battle!!!
B3968 1 year ago
My Dad was on the Yorktown at Coral Sea and Midway. I still have a few items from the ship he had sent home to my mother (menus, original Squadron embroidery, flight manifest from June 4th) stuff like that. I will probably donate it one day. Mostly I watch these films to see if I can catch a glimpse of my Dad and to try to get a feel for what it must have been like to be 17 years old in the middle of the ocean and planes diving on your ship in all directions.
See ships report of the battle
jeffandjune 1 year ago
@jeffandjune The USS Yorktown Historic Society would love to put your father's artifacts on display. I live in Charleston, SC and they are always looking for display items such as this. An actual flight manifest from that day would be amazing to see.
Semper Fi !
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
long life my kurac
bhfanaticos2000 1 year ago
I am proud to be able to say that my Father was one of the carrier pilots who flew off of the Hornet II at the Battle of Midway. Since I was around four years old, my Father told me about catching the Japanese carriers with their decks full of planes unable to launch them. A difference of thirty-five minutes for the intersect and those planes would have been either airborne or in the process of taking off for the American Fleet.
1955thekeeper 1 year ago
Japs had never 11 carriers at Midway that's massive error by the narrator by all accounts the US sank 4 , 3 of which were destroyed in one day . the 4th was taken later because Nimitz wanted that 4th Carrier .. and the Japs had thought they had sunk the Yorktown at Coral Sea a month before it ..
And the Japs didn't know they were up against 3 US Carriers only 2 Hornet and Enterprise
colintraveller 1 year ago
@colintraveller Actually, small correction, all four were destroyed on the same day, Hiryu coming under attack much later in the day.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@Toddinfantry The book I have indicates the Hiryu sunk at 01:00 hours on June 5. The Yorktown sunk 3 days later being towed home after a Jap sub hit.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker What reference are you using? Many Midway books are not all correct.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@Toddinfantry The Military History of World War II: Volume 13 THE AIR WAR IN THE PACIFIC: AIR POWER LEADS THE WAY. It's pretty old, I don't know if it is accurate or not but it seems to be. It has a drawing showing the dispostion of various forces before, during, and after the battle. It lists the military time of major events of the battle. It shows the Hiryu sinking an 01:00 June 5.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Try reading the book "Shattered Sword". It is the definitive study of this battle and will clear up a lot of questions. I just finished it...amazing the amount of research done here.
The Hiryu, according to this, sank around 0907 June 5.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@Toddinfantry Either way apparently the Hiryu sank on June 5, the other 3 carriers sank on the 4th. I may check out Shattered Sword, I've read and seen a great deal on Midway, been reading about it since at least 1972.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Sorry, but can't be either way. There are famous photos taken of the Hiryu on the morning of June 5 by the Japanese scout aircraft. Many of the Hiryu crew watched from the Makigumo as she fired two torpedoes at Hiryu. The first missed, the second struck forward. This was done at first light, around 0530, and the ship sunk about 4 hrs later.
Again, Shattered Sword, is a great read.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@Toddinfantry The only reason I left a comment on this vid in the first place is cuz u said all 4 Jap carriers were destroyed on the same day. Clearly, they were not. The Kaga, Soryu, and Akagi were sunk on June 4. The Hiryu sunk June 5
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Fair enough, but I stand by the comment, all four were destroyed on June 4. Hiryu was useless (destroyed) after the attack on her, just didn't sink until the next day.
I don't mean to get into pissing contests, I just want this piece of history to be remembered correctly.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@Toddinfantry Cheers! Wikipedia has an "order of battle" but didn't list the time of sinking of the Hiryu. I was just on a website that listed the time of the sinking as 0230 June 5. It seems that Bob Ballard went looking for the sunken Jap carriers, I don't remember if he found them or not. All 4 were sunk and there were many American heros in that battle, and a lot of luck.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Ballard only found the Yorktown, and a part of the upper hanger deck from the Akagi.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@Toddinfantry Wikipedia also said something else. Apparently 3 Americans were "rescued" by the Japanese. Also it said, 2 of them had their hands and feet bound, their legs weighted, and tossed overboard. Good riddance to the Akagi, Kaga, Hiryu, and Soryu.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker I believe there were nine Americans that were pulled from the water by the Japanese, all were executed at some point. I have also read the account of the one's tossed overboard.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@Toddinfantry hey, I just wanted to say I learned something by reading your and clintonearlwalker's exchange. You two guys are an example of how 2 people should resolve issues on utube. So many video comments are nothing but arguementative filth and vulgarities. You two are gentlemen, and I just wanted to recognize both of you for being just that. Gentlemen.
justaflyguy1 1 year ago
@justaflyguy1 Thank you. I never use profanity on the Tube and always try to see other sides. I try to study my subjects hard, learn the truth, and keep the truth spread. CEW was a good discussion, and I had just finished an intensive research period of this battle based on a newer book on the subject, so I feel I had a slight upper hand.
It is great to see that UTube can be used for more than angry trolling.
Thanks again.
Toddinfantry 1 year ago
@Toddinfantry "leaving Hiryū ablaze, despite being defended by a strong cover of more than a dozen Zero fighters. Vice Admiral Yamaguchi chose to go down with his ship when she sank on June 5" Wikipedia There is also a photogragh taken in daylight entitiled "shortly before Hiryu sank". I don't even remember what this argument was about but clearly 3 Jap carriers were sunk on the 4th, and 1 on the 5th. Cheers!!
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Hi, please read the comment I left for you and Toddinfantry today.
Thank you sir.
justaflyguy1 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker That's why in World War II, whenever the Japanese "rescued" somebody, it wasn't exactly rescue (unless it's a Japanese being rescued). If I were stranded in the ocean at Midway, I'd probably have taken my chances with the sharks and exposure and hope a PBY found me, like George Gay did, than risk being "rescued" by a Japanese ship.
rhall4th 1 year ago
@rhall4th My guess is that if a Japanese ship seen u bobbing in the ocean, u wouldn't have had a choice.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Well, George Gay hid himself under his seat cushion after he got out of his plane, and positioned his cushion between him and the closest Japanese ship. Luckily, the Japanese didn't see him, or decided he was dead, and didn't pick him up. Not that that would work every time, but playing dead is always worth a try. And if the Japanese did pick me up, I would tell them nothing and say, "I know nothing!", knowing that they would probably kill me whether I said anything or not.
rhall4th 1 year ago
@rhall4th I've never heard that George Gay hid under a seat cushion, he was extremely lucky irregardless. If I remember he was the only person to survive from his squadron. Much of the movie "Midway" came from his story, I remember reading it in "The Readers Digest" in about 1968. I looked at your page, seen military movies. Two great German movies posted on YouTube, "Downfall", "Sohpie Scholl The Final Days", also "Sgt York" is great. I've seen nearly all military movies more than once.
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
@clintonearlwalker Great! I'll check out those movies Downfall, Sophie Scholl The Final Days, and Sgt. York
And George Gay was very lucky indeed. Search on YouTube for Hook Down, Wheels Down (Part 4). At 7:22, there's an interview with Mr. Gay, where he shares his experiences from the battle (this video was made in the '70s, so he was still alive). I've also read Sole Survivor, which is his autobiography.
rhall4th 1 year ago
@rhall4th Sgt York is about an American WW 1 hero, Alvin C. York, it's an American classic. "To Hell and Back" is the story of Audie Murphy in WW II. I've seen many war movies multiple times. "The Enemy Below" is about submarines in WW II. "The Flying Tigers", "Sands of Iwo Jima", "The Fighting Seabees" with John Wayne are all great. I'm going to bed. Cheers!!!
clintonearlwalker 1 year ago
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colintraveller 1 year ago
bad leadership in japan in that era caused all this. never had the capacity to defeat U.S. hirohito and his right wing mates brought so much death on their country
zhitttty 1 year ago
Hiryu, Soryu, Akagi and Kaga. The pride of the Imperial Japanese Navy with it's "cream of the crop" naval aviators. When those 4 carriers went beneath the waves of the Pacific the dreams of the Japs for their own empire sank with them...
Thank God for the US Navy!!
randy109 1 year ago
OMG!
PuppyGod329 1 year ago
5*****
petrwarry72 1 year ago
六月四号,这是决定两大海军力量的五分钟。。。
wangjieli 1 year ago
Can you be more specific Jap???
Urlytje 1 year ago
The U.S. Navy destroyed the 4 main Jap Flattops.Thank God Nimitz was the Admiral
PatIke100 2 years ago
Thank you 4 saving my country -(New Zea;and)
fluentread 2 years ago
lol nice name world war 2 in colour
dumgum222 2 years ago
Let's remember those US pilots, sailors, marines, and soldiers who fell in this battle. We are and will be staying UNITED.
purity5555 2 years ago
thank roosewelt for all those u mentioned over there!! and maybe remember not ONLY US sailors, marines and what ever!!! lmfao
cardolino82 2 years ago
was the worst error by japs, and not to invade pearl harbour the attacking day, would be our end as nation
Burn121212 2 years ago
@Burn121212 you know that their main objective was to eliminate the entire American Pacific Fleet. they did not plan to invade pearl harbor
mn102 2 years ago
interesting i didn't know that, but i had read that if japs would dicided to invade the Hawaii island and took midway the war would be almost impossible for americans, even the japs know that they were superior in army, navy but inferior in economical power, this are the kind of things i don't understand about war
POLO11220 2 years ago
sorry the POLO user was me i was in my brother´s account , could u tell me why japs didn't decide to make a massive strike ?
Burn121212 2 years ago
if they took out they entire American PAcific Fleet the Whole Pacific would be opened to invasion and if the whole fleet was gone then they didnt have to invade because the whole pacific was opened to attack and on one was going to stop them.
P.S. If it sounds confusing i can make it a lot more easy to undertand. :) <3
mn102 2 years ago
u mean american fleet could make a complete and direct attack to japan instead of islands? for that moment, japs had the strongest fleet and the could stop the american fleet at the sea by a long time
POLO11220 2 years ago
@POLO11220 no i meant to say is that if the american fleet was blown away completely then the Japanese would take control of the pacific and could attack the west coast of america
i was talking about if the japanese eliminated our fleet.
mn102 2 years ago
is this like a dvd u can buy? seem very good. Whats it called?
alih15 2 years ago
Americans need to remember moments like this and stay united. This could happen again someday.
GhostRiderEVH5150 2 years ago 4
True! And i'd like to add not only the Americans, but all of us wherever we are from! We have to keep our eyes open to avoid a WWIII.
I wish we could all be united as 'humans' and leave in peace.
thephiber 2 years ago 18
@thephiber too bad bitch
iraceforfood 1 year ago
@thephiber LEAVE in peace?
Rangerpl1322 1 year ago
@thephiber as long as there is race religion nations there will be no peace ever in this life time or the next only the questing of global dominance period. but the american team has and always be the good team, esp when we oust these scumbags in office, keeping it real
steveo451 10 months ago
@GhostRiderEVH5150 lest we forget.. or facsism will raise its head again, as it has.............
WellSightedGentleman 8 months ago
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GhostRiderEVH5150 2 years ago
I get a boner for America whenever I read about the Battle of Midway
HapaLife 2 years ago 27
Oh thank God I'm not the only one! XD
Gneisenau 2 years ago
Funny I feel my balls shrivel up when I hear it...
TheZuikaku 2 years ago
@HapaLife The British Intelligence Service had broken the Japanese code before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and had informed Roosevelt about the coming attack but he decided that he needed all the support of Congress to enter the conflict which was extremely unpopular in the States and so he effectively condemned about 5000 American servicemen to death.
exenforcer 1 year ago
@exenforcer IJN a short time before Pearl Harbor changed over it's code and no intelligence service was able to do what you described in your fantasy.
fluffy1931 1 year ago
@fluffy1931 From analyzing Japan's diplomatic traffic (her PURPLE code, which was broken months before Pearl Harbor), the U.S. knew that an attack was coming in December 1941, and knew, fairly accurately, when it would come, but didn't know exactly where it would occur.
rhall4th 1 year ago
@rhall4th The break into PURPLE was a considerable cryptographic triumph. . but Japans military dictatorship had little trust in civilians especially entrusting military plans too the diplomatic corp prior to Pearl Harbor.
In Japan the military, essentially determinined foreign policy for Japan, distrusted the Foreign Office and left it "out of the loop".
No the US did'nt know when the attack would come pls. return to your'e conspiracy bunker.
fluffy1931 1 year ago
@fluffy1931 That's true that the Japanese military dominated politics in Japan. U.S. codebreakers could only obtain very limited amounts of information about Japanese intentions from Japan's diplomatic traffic. (continued)
rhall4th 1 year ago
@rhall4th ..,there is no Japanese military plans or secrets for US codebreakers too obtain thru Purple dude.
No Japanese military dictatorship would give civilians especially Japans civilians any military information including Japans diplomatic corp.
No limited no anything. go back and try again.
fluffy1931 1 year ago
@fluffy1931 In the week before Pearl Harbor the U.S. was stepping up its preparation for attack, sending B-17s to the Philippines and reinforcing Midway and Wake (this is why our carriers weren't caught in Pearl during the attack - they were out ferrying fighters to Midway and Wake). And I'm not implying that FDR had anything to do with the attack, so don't call me a revisionist.
rhall4th 1 year ago
@fluffy1931 The U.S. did not know where the attack would occur, but they knew an attack was bound to come, and they had a vague idea of when it would take place, based on decoding the 14-part message, instructing the Japanese embassy in Washington to deliver their message to the U.S. government at "precisely 1 PM" and then destroy their cypher and secret documents, and based on the sighting of a Japanese expeditionary force heading toward Malaya. Watch Tora Tora Tora.
rhall4th 1 year ago
@rhall4th The message is not a declaration of war, and did not even break off negotiations. Beyond a recapitulation of Japanese grievances against the U.S., and the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, there doesn't seem to be any real point to the message at all. The record from Japanese sources shows that the meeting called to write it didn't convene until 12:44 pm, Dec. 7th, Pearl Harbor time.
fluffy1931 1 year ago
@HapaLife The battles you should REALLY get a boner for America for are the battles of the Philippine Sea and Leyte Gulf.
rhall4th 1 year ago
@HapaLife totally to bad our rel heros are dying out and out current mil reduced for some scumbag in ofc
steveo451 10 months ago
Midway was the key battle of the Pacific, but there were many more battles where the U.S. Navy stood toe to toe with Imperial Navy and ultimately defeated a navy that was one of the best of its time. Think taffy 5.
bullpup33 2 years ago
or taffy 3 :p
mathyousaid 2 years ago
5:48, I'm pretty sure that's a shot of a TBF from 1944 and not from this battle >_>
dokaw 2 years ago
the germans could've defeated either brittain, america or russia, but not all 3 together, the truth is brittain would've been conquered if it wasnt for the US, and the US couldnt have won without brittain, it was teamwork, the brits helped a lot in ww2, except for that montgomery, never liked him...i think that the day jap attacked pearl harbor winst churchill mustve been like "fuck yea, new allies", and hitler mustve been like "oh...shit, damn japanese, as if i wasnt battling the world already"
cheovl9 2 years ago
Agreed. Japan should've attack Russia from the back
Sephy7777 2 years ago
america came inro the war to save their asses for they knew they were the next target If the axis wonso they had to enter the war but Britain first n Russia close seond defeated them yanks are 3rd in ww3
polygamous1 2 years ago
Find the book, "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". You'll find that the inspections that France was supposed to continue, were stopped in 1925. (This should sound familiar since Iraq was undergoing inspections as well when Saddam stopped them)
There's much more to WW2 than most are told, for to forget the past is to condemn it to be repeated.
MagpieHammer 2 years ago
The author Herman Wouk said in War and Remembrance - "what the Americans did at Midway on 4 June, 1942 stopped, at least for the 20th century, the rising tide of Asian power". This was one of the most important battles in human history. The Imperial Navy never recovered from what it lost at Midway.
kcope001 2 years ago
É empolgante assistir um video de tão boa qualidade,as cenas são incríveis .parabens pela edição das imagens.
nerosaldanha08 2 years ago
Are the 4 flattops that the U.S. sunk participate in the bombing of Pearl Harbor?
TobiIsAGoodBoy1 2 years ago
it's amazing how this battle changed hands so many times before the americans finally got and held the upper hand... it was not a slam dunk win by any means... but certainly the most pivotal battle win of the war
cisan 2 years ago 2
Some people might like to think about not belittling the deeds done by others long ago, get off the computer, (and their butts) and do some deeds of their own!!
kvhpkh 2 years ago
i jst think that america should just accept that they did part of the war not all of it and britian dos not owe them
AJFA23 2 years ago
Wow video, way to not mention in any way the Marine Corps Buffaloes and Wildcats that went up to try and stop the Japanese strike on the island. And It wasn't one group of American SBDs, it was three, two from Enterprise, one from Yorktown, that found the carrier group, and they weren't lost, either. That being said, that color shot of SBDs from Enterprise near the end was beautiful :)
blownglasslide 2 years ago
Agreed that Russians MIGHT have played the most crucial role, but the Brits are not above the Americans... Brittian was being pounded and surely would had been invaded (most likely not conquered however) if not for America...
That's not disrespect to any nation.. The Germans just had a powerful war machine
PhatMan2k20 2 years ago
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main955 2 years ago
um no lol. The Russians got 45% of there supplies from the USA and the the British got a lot too, by 1944 on the western front the USA was the largest Allied army on that side. why do you think the U.S was in command of all allied forces by then?
keep in mind why'll the U.S was fighting the Germans they had a huge military fighting in the pacific
Dogmeat1950 2 years ago
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dwwjr1961 2 years ago
where the fuk Japaneze had 7 carriers? They had 4 carrier, godam propaganda movie. After WWII, US made the most propaganda movies ever, and now their population is brainwashed. 9/11, terrorism, i hope u guys wake up at some point.
idragon2003 2 years ago
Mikey300 2 years ago 2
As to "seven battleships", the USN's code breakers really expected only two or three BBs in the Kido Butai escort group (there were only two, Haruna and Kirishima). Yamamoto's "Main Body" had seven BBs split into two forces--and the USN was unaware of its presence in the overall Midway operation.
Mikey300 2 years ago
idragon2003 your are a true retard the japs, had more then 4 carriers at the start of the battle then t split some Carriers and sent them North. it's not Propaganda it's truth and you might know that if you picked up a book or two
fucking dumb ass
Dogmeat1950 2 years ago
Yah... we know... the US is the reason for all the bad things in the world. That's why you should stay where you are... in that second rate country you're from.
danrieke 2 years ago 2
how is Us the reason for all bad things for a world?
Hperman09 2 years ago
im sorry weeDaire but britain in no way lead in the war america did join because of pearl harbor. germany had britain almost to its knees with the u-boats first when they sank the royal oak in 1939 britain had no fuel, food, or other supplies. ships had to bring the supplies from america and canada during the battle of the atlantic u-boats sank almost 6,000 merchcant ships and more than 30,000 men died
Erikacuadras200 2 years ago 3
Uh, so who exactly fought Germany for the first 3 years? The US did not "join" the war. They declared war on Japan. Hitler, in his second stupidest move (Barbarossa was #1) declared war on the US, forcing their hand. The loss of Royal Oak, a WWI battleship, was a propaganda loss only. The U-boat war was solved by many things, certainly US aid, but also Huff-Duff, the Leigh Light, radar, cracking Enigma, the drastic increase of the RCN, and a host of others. It was a co-op effort.
milesalpha 2 years ago 2
Yup, the truth is tha the britsh fought against unknow technlogy ..... US fought an already tired miltary foce with equal technology and even more US hadits mass production going on .....
dagomankle 2 years ago
Both sides of conflict are stupid.
WalhamptonCrew 2 years ago
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No one want to see the war.
In fact that ,When USA join the WW2 it is a turning point. For CHINESE can use model wepons. Before Link with USA Chinese only using WW1 wepons or knife,seldom GERMAN WEPONES to fright JAPANESE no fighter or tank.USA mass production tanks to help EU battlefield.and P51,P38 are favlour fighterin WW2.
leesobing 2 years ago
I'm a Brit and considering I'm not ruled by a Fascist government (despite what some Brits might think) so all parties fighting against the Axis did their bit.
Also remember that Germany and Japan made the decision to attack other nations, so their forces were large and well trained. Britain and America only started building their large forces well afterward.
UKFabMan 2 years ago 3
no offence but in the war britan led the way amerca jus joined in ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tho im irish so i suport amerca more dan britin woop woop brigt stars all da wy
weeDaire 2 years ago
an america think they'll a chosen by god 2 rule a whole world, what a fucking shit.. japs have everything, a discipline soldier who want sacrifice for their nation. the japs will win the war in leyte gulf, midway. but the fate is fate... now... japan is the great nation in the world... banzaiii.....
DickeRNdagros 2 years ago
Moral of the story. We won at Midway. And never fucking looked back. Pushing our air superiority to full advantage, we rolled the japs all the way back to their homeland.
Moral of the story.
Don't attack us thinking we Americans will be cowed. For we Americans will fight back with the fury of demons from hell itself.
For all our faults, hypocrisies, and divisions we come from a land of violence and will defend ourselves as such.
HulkSmashPunyHumans 2 years ago
Indeed.
ThunderAppeal 2 years ago
WW2 is idolized to look like the Americans are the heroes and did everything. What the fuck did America do. It was the millions of Russians and Chinese who gave their lives to stop the Germans and Japanese. Fuck, even Italy suffered more deaths in the second world war than America. WW2 was like fucking 20 countries on 8, and it took you 4 years to beat a tiny island nation LAWL
paydafee 2 years ago
We idolized WW2 becuz it is the last war where we were "the good guys".
And actually I'm going agree with you about Russian having more to do with stopping Germany than us.
But calling Japan a "tiny island nation" is misleading and you know it. Japan was dominating in the Pacific theater and it was'nt until this battle of midway that their aura of invincibility was shattered.
Furthermore what are you upset about? We let canadians fight a little too so you could pretend to contribute.
HulkSmashPunyHumans 2 years ago
very informative
SRSJAGUAR20 3 years ago
very informative
SRSJAGUAR20 3 years ago
God has nothing to do with Midway: the U.S. had a determinant advantage over the Japanese: radar and code breaking.
bushgam 3 years ago 2
God loves America. The Japanese had all but lost.
Before the battle the odds were in favor of Japanese, but finally went to those who bet bucket. This shows that war is always a fluid situation.
H2O0O2H 3 years ago
If there were honestly a god, then the war wouldn't have happened in the first place. Factories won the war, not something as foolish as some nonexistant god. Why do you think Japan attacked Midway in the first place? Because if they won here, then that would end the war, and they wouldn't have to match the vastly greater American output of Materiel.
frtyuj 3 years ago