Whatever happened to the culture of the Greeks? Imagine if Christianity didn't enter Greece, how advance they could have been with their ancient culture. Not just the Greeks, the Persians as well.
@ArkoudoROMANTIC *lol* Always fun to see people insulting other people just because they make an intelligent remark that doesn't fit their narrowminded nationalist feelings. StevenJamesHumonen writes nicely, says things that are absolutely true, and all you can do is call him names? Now who is the worm here?
@ArkoudoROMANTIC Don't treat other people for jackass or idiot if you yourself know nothing about it. There are only about 15 small fragments of Ancient Greek music found, and we only think we know what notes they represent. There is no information whatsoever about rhythm, harmony, instrumentation etc.
This piece is based on an actual remaining fragment, but the performance is 100% conjectural. If Madonna makes a song using the same fragment, that wouldn't be Ancient Greek music either.
Ihr Hellenen , sagt immer auf die antiken Münzen steht der name MAKEDONIA.
Ich frag mich nur blos , welches Land macht Werbung für andere Länder vor das eigene. Wo bitteschön steht Elláda, Ελλάδα,Ellás, Ελλάς oder Hellas auf den Münzen von ALEXANDER den Großen.DA steht EINDEUTIG MAKEDONIA und MAKEDONIA ist auf gar kein FAll Greeko KAKIS. Wer hat wen erobert. Die MAKEDONIER die Griechen oder die greekoKAKIS die MAKEDONIER.
Ihr seit Lügner,HELLLENEN schämt euch. VIVA la MAkedonia 4 all MAKEDONS
I'm not an expert, but I think that the very first beginning of such instruments evolved in the areas where greeks lived in the past.... I'm not claiming bouzouki is an absolutely greek invention.... for sure it evolved with the time out of many other newly invented types of the so called Kithara, that formerly, in one of the first versions, had his roots in greece.....
I'm NOT anti greek!! i love what is left from ancient greek music! But I was just telling that, to me, is not that nice to recreate what is no true :)
the ancient greek music that greek people played had never been descovered. There are only theories and based on theories is that song too. Just enjoy it ^^.
Yeah. This is also fake. I hate it when people do that. They claim the music is "Ancient", then you start listening to it and it ends up being some modern crap posing as ancient music. Just because you play your music on ancient INSTRUMENTS does not give you the right to call it ancient music. Oh yea, by the way, race arguments waste comment space. Go troll somewhere else.
hahah yeah right hunderts of archaeologist and musicians are working on ancient greek notes and lyrics to reproduce this hyms, but mr. prof. dr. dr. steven james knows that this is a fake.. how stupid can be a man??
@sfentonas11 While it is true that the source of this mans music is indeed ancient, it does not mean that this is the correct interpretation of the music. Similarly, much of the modern "medieval" music is not recorded in the original form. Instead, it is tainted with modern influences. It is sort of like taking Beethoven's 5th symphony and turning it into a pop song. Although the source remains the same, the result is definitely lacking.
the greek byzantine music is as we know more or less exactly like the ancient greek music. in some hymns olny the names changet (athena=maria, apollon=jesus...). and the byzantine music is still living in the greek church psalms. so we can combine the ancient notes with the byzantine music to get a realistic result!
@sfentonas11 Ok... Well that makes more sense than "hundreds of archaeologists and musicians are working on ancient greek notes...". I guess my first comment was in a slightly agitated tone, and I'm sure the individuals working on such projects are well intentioned. Nevertheless, with the large amount of "fake" ancient music out there, one cannot help but remain slightly skeptical.
καλά, συγκρίνεις τους αμανέδες και τα κλαψουρίσματα των τραγοπαπάδων,με τους αρχαίους Ελληνικούς ύμνους?Αυτό είναι βρισιά.Ασε που το Βυζάντιο απο μόνο του δεν έχει καμία σχέση με την Αρχαία Ελλάδα.
@sfentonas11 the Greek Byzantine music is half Greek music, if yoy want ancient greek music search in the sounds of ancient Greek language before it was violated by the vandalism of Christians,
Greek language has its own music which is violated by byzantines and christians,
@StevenJamesHumonen I'm stronlgy inclined to agree with you on aesthetic sense alone. This just doesn't *sound* ancient. Can you site examples you'd consider reasobably authentic?
@polymath7 This song is definitely ancient. watch?v=9RjBePQV4xE&feature=related The scales used on this song also lead me to believe that it is more authentic. watch?v=uJLZGBYxfbU&feature=related, but as you know, most of such works are lost to history. I personally admire ancient Chinese music. :)
You are right! The only fragments we know from ancient greece are the "epitaph of seikolos" and some other hymns to the sun or to Apollo. But even what we know, is an interpretation of the musical notes we found. (greeks used letters). --- Worse is the matter of roman music! We don't know ANYTHING about it! (some people tried to search some ancient sounds in traditional instruments of italy)
@StevenJamesHumonen It is true that we don't know exactly what music sounded like at the time, and that there is a lot of personal interpretations. Yet Greek music--that is as opposed to pop and other genres--is, and this is unique in Europe I would argue, the only one that has retained a direct connection with the most ancient past, whether it is secular music or church music.
@StevenJamesHumonen In a way, it wouldn't be out of place to play these ancient hymns in the modern Greek sensibility, just as they would read the Illiad or any ancient texts with modern pronounciation. Greek culture--unlike here in the West--has retained much of its character over the ages, influenced by many yet always retaining their own culture.
@StevenJamesHumonen You make many assumptions here, we have been trying to piece together many classical Greek music in its written form. We are making slow progress. Your statement on the surface may sound logical but it is very incorrect!
Δεν μπορώ να πιστέψω.! A real Hymn to the Muse of Mesodomes. I strongly recommend the much brighter version of Layne Redmond hymn to the muse. Very powerful. This one is a bit Byzantine like.?
Without greeks we would be now in the year 1230, but we greeks are the best, we now have the year 2010 in the year 2010 and not 1230, so everyone should be thankful to us...
wow,ancient greek music! sound strange but good...it sound little bit like japanese traditional music,anyway this is perfectly preserved? so its same(or almost same) as the music played 2 or 3000yrs ago?
@China4eever Yes, fortunatly greeks took care of they're compositions and peoples can reproduce they're music and instruments with a bit of research.:)
P.S: Your point is good, indeed the tune sounds a bit similar with japanese.
@MrPontiusPilate Without Greek civilisation there would be no Roman civilisation and ofcourse it Greeks accomplished things worthy of note, a very long list!
@ mrs pontiuspilate -notes -lines of a stave -gear -antikythera mechanism (astrolab) -guitar -hydraulis -clocks -onager -theatre -philosophy -heliocentrism (aristarchos) -coins -democracy -the golden mean................ go and watch your stupid hollywood movies like "taxi driver" and "the godfather" you stupid american neanderthal!!! ;)
So greeks invented the guitar... everybody should know that.. sometimes people say the guitar came with the arabs, but the truth is that after the Greeks lost Egypt to the arabs they came in contact with mathmatics and different sciences from greeks.. the result was the Algbra and some other things like the guitars with the shape they have today as arabic guitars....
Actually, there were guitar-like instruments before the Greeks. Look at Hittite rock art: a kind of lute-/guitar-like instrument is displayed in one example. Considering that a nearly-identical intrument was found in a 3000-year-old Tocharian grave in what's now Western China, it would not be surprising at all if the early Proto-Indo-Europeans themselves had a similar instrument 6000 years ago!
@SeadogDriftwood and where is the music from all these ? Only the greeks have something to show for. I believe something that has facts and not talk. Where are the notes for the music? The muses where the first dieties in the ancient greek history. All the other dates and history is speculation to me. I want music!!!
@mariatim2000 Believe me, I too want to hear the music from the other cultures I described. If only some had survived! How much more we could know about the history of music - and how wonderful it would be to hear 3000-year-old melodies!
Fortunately, such ancient music DOES exist, albeit from Mesopotamia. The Hurrian Hymns, while mostly fragmentary, date back to around 1400 B.C. There's just one problem: we don't know how to read their musical notation well enough to perform them!
@SeadogDriftwood Then let's hear it. I don't think so because it is probably not music. And just a few fragments that can't be palyed don't say that these people had music. The greeks have Orpheys,Homer,Pyndar,Sapho...so many!!!! Hymns,Paians,Poems....so many!!!
hmmm, also persians use "tar" meaning "string", i heard somewere that "qui" or "gi" (from quitar) posibly means the name of the wood of a specific tree. We will never know. Or perhaps traveled by the comercials roots from distant Koreea where it was found one of the oldest string instrument.
@Neoptolomos the guitar as we know it today was invented in spain. there might be similar string instruments from other countries that influenced that though
@Neoptolomos The first string instrument was from India, the Veena (an earlier form of the sitar). The Greeks developed a guitar-like instrument seperately a couple of centuries later. The Arabs got their ideas from a mix of Greek and Indian trade.
@Neoptolomos No no my friend, the greeks nor the arabs invented the guitar, the ancient mesopotamians invented the guitars early form, earlier than the oud, wall reliefs show depictions of men playing oud looking instruments
Sorry, you are wrong! I don't know what you know exactly about history, but it's obvious, you don't know much. In 332 b.C. Alexander the Great, who for sure was a Greek emperor, conquered Agypt !!! After that, he became Pharao of Agypt until his dead, and after his dead Ptolemeos, one of his generals, became Pharao and the capital was Alexandria a town build by Alexander which still exists! Then Greeks ruled until the dead of the Greek Pharao Cleopatra (more than 300 years)
@Neoptolomos 5)Ottomans also get affected by East Roman empire but still they are turks ;) 6)in turkey we say rum "sons of romans" - yunan for "greeks" surely that is a sign ;) and yes still there are Rums in Turkey 7) i dont believe Alexander was greek but Macedonian and really donot understand why you greeks allways try to make him "greek". i dont say that to insult you. Ancient Greek is already glory of you Greeks ;) as we already have ours :)
...than, after the dead of Cleopatra, Romans integrated Agypt into the Roman empire. For 300 years it became Roman, until the Roman empire split into two parts the east- and west-roman empire. The East-Roman-Empire was ruled by Greek Emperors and Agypt became Greek again until 600 a.C. when the moslemic Arabs conquered Agypt..... Before, Agypt was a christian Nation and the oldest Christian Religion comes from Agypt....
@Neoptolomos 1)sure Alexander was a great man but his and his successors' period was short. -building cities is not a sign of long last ;)- 2) Later Romans invaded Egypt (Remember Cleopatra and Ceaser ;) 3)when Arabs conquered egpyt, it was already a dominion of East Roman Empire 4)Romans may get affected by Greeks but yet you cannot assume them Greeks
1. Alexander was GREEK !! But you can't accept that, claiming bullshit... just because Greeks were of different Tribes, it doesn't mean that only Atheneans were Greek... I hate this bullshittin wankers hating Greeks while believing knowing anything about history....
2. East Romans were talking GREEK ... Konstantin spoke GREEK, Justinian spoke GREEK etc. and the official LANGUAGE WAS GREEK in East Roman Empire - You can accept it or not !
1) it is clear now, you are just one of the assholes , who doesnot know how to distinguish Romans and greeks
2)if u were such a great nation, it would be accepted by everyone but yet you are the most greatest wankers who claim Macedonia as greece and Alexander as a greek
3)you are so pathetic to blame TURKS (they ruled you for over 400 years and yet you have still your culture as before
4) stop bullshitting and tell how you behave , TURKS in eastern Thrace!
It's easy to insult people on the internet isn't it? I see, you used your brain, thanks for that... You showed a lot about your great turkish culture ... Ass fucked? Me? You stupid, I don't have any problems with gay people, that's the problem with turkish culture,you hate gays but most of you are gays !!
Great, I'm impressed .... you are such a turkish great girlfucking man, wow !
I'm just telling the truth, but you can't compete to that and insult me instead...
All names in Alexanders family were of greek origin, they spoke greek, they lived like greeks, clothing, olympic games ... everything... The sad truth is, that once there was a book written, claiming Makedonians were not greek and since then anti Greek propaganda is based on this crap...
I don't claim Atta Turk was not a Turk, because it's not that far away in time, but about Alexander they claim what ever they want, because he lived more than 2000 years ago..
- because Turks deny the existing of GREEK culture, religion and people in their Nation and todays territory that formely was populated by GREEKS. But Turks occupied Greek land, banished and killed greeks and people who couldn't or didn't leave, especially women, had been assimilated ...
That's the truth and non of your bullshit anti greek propaganda
3. I've never claimed agyptians were greeks... I don't know what your comments are all about,so please start using your brain
the first mechanical computation machines were probably build by greeks (antikythera mechanism is only one evidence) ... but to finish this comment with a joke and reply to your joke, .... greeks invented Steve Jobs so that he could invent MACs and iPhones and iPads and iPods and i.............
@KaxiLaxi well, as a matter of fact the first computer was invented by Greeks. it is called the 'Antikythera Mechanism'. Look it up on google you should find plenty of info on it. Cheers mate
harika bir müzik. oldukça etkileyici emeği geçenleri kutlarım...
KardelenTutku 1 month ago
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01feb2009 1 month ago
Ωραια περναγαμε τοτε... Το συγκεκριμένο κομμάτι ήταν στο top ten το 488 π.χ
Gredisken 1 month ago
@Gredisken
χαχα ναι...........Σεικιλος feat Δαιμονια Νυμφη!!! : ))
akatanomasty 4 weeks ago
Whatever happened to the culture of the Greeks? Imagine if Christianity didn't enter Greece, how advance they could have been with their ancient culture. Not just the Greeks, the Persians as well.
jumshid 2 months ago
@jumshid .........How true....
kourtelisn 3 days ago
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Greeks can never be MAKEDONIANS .
Viva la MAKEDONIA 4 all MAKEDONIANS but never 4 greeks.
Devoj4E 2 months ago
macedonia=greece, fyrom=Slavic population
STGhumanity 4 months ago 8
Ancient Greek music was not polyphonic. This is a bogus modern arrangement.
ex0pos 5 months ago
stop fighting !! wether its ancient or not ! Its beautiful !! I close my eyes and i can feel my self in ancient greece !
fawdian 7 months ago
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fawdian 7 months ago
@ArkoudoROMANTIC *lol* Always fun to see people insulting other people just because they make an intelligent remark that doesn't fit their narrowminded nationalist feelings. StevenJamesHumonen writes nicely, says things that are absolutely true, and all you can do is call him names? Now who is the worm here?
fluffytom82 7 months ago
@ArkoudoROMANTIC Don't treat other people for jackass or idiot if you yourself know nothing about it. There are only about 15 small fragments of Ancient Greek music found, and we only think we know what notes they represent. There is no information whatsoever about rhythm, harmony, instrumentation etc.
This piece is based on an actual remaining fragment, but the performance is 100% conjectural. If Madonna makes a song using the same fragment, that wouldn't be Ancient Greek music either.
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Ihr Hellenen , sagt immer auf die antiken Münzen steht der name MAKEDONIA.
Ich frag mich nur blos , welches Land macht Werbung für andere Länder vor das eigene. Wo bitteschön steht Elláda, Ελλάδα,Ellás, Ελλάς oder Hellas auf den Münzen von ALEXANDER den Großen.DA steht EINDEUTIG MAKEDONIA und MAKEDONIA ist auf gar kein FAll Greeko KAKIS. Wer hat wen erobert. Die MAKEDONIER die Griechen oder die greekoKAKIS die MAKEDONIER.
Ihr seit Lügner,HELLLENEN schämt euch. VIVA la MAkedonia 4 all MAKEDONS
Devoj4E 7 months ago
ANCIENT GREEK MUSIC !!!
GREAT !!!! BEAUTIFUL!!!
BRAVISSIMO....
fan4fun4ever 8 months ago
Music of Ancient sllav greece
MrLadrocuori 8 months ago
I wasen't aware there were surviving notes from the ancient world, and believe me i have read alot of it's history.
Tyrfingr 8 months ago
@kamilierikos
I'm not an expert, but I think that the very first beginning of such instruments evolved in the areas where greeks lived in the past.... I'm not claiming bouzouki is an absolutely greek invention.... for sure it evolved with the time out of many other newly invented types of the so called Kithara, that formerly, in one of the first versions, had his roots in greece.....
Neoptolomos 9 months ago
@ArkoudoROMANTIC
I'm NOT anti greek!! i love what is left from ancient greek music! But I was just telling that, to me, is not that nice to recreate what is no true :)
neonenour89 9 months ago
@ArkoudoROMANTIC wat are yhu talkin bout?
McAwesome58 10 months ago
the ancient greek music that greek people played had never been descovered. There are only theories and based on theories is that song too. Just enjoy it ^^.
chiritsi 10 months ago
Yeah. This is also fake. I hate it when people do that. They claim the music is "Ancient", then you start listening to it and it ends up being some modern crap posing as ancient music. Just because you play your music on ancient INSTRUMENTS does not give you the right to call it ancient music. Oh yea, by the way, race arguments waste comment space. Go troll somewhere else.
StevenJamesHumonen 10 months ago 15
@StevenJamesHumonen
hahah yeah right hunderts of archaeologist and musicians are working on ancient greek notes and lyrics to reproduce this hyms, but mr. prof. dr. dr. steven james knows that this is a fake.. how stupid can be a man??
sfentonas11 10 months ago 22
@sfentonas11 While it is true that the source of this mans music is indeed ancient, it does not mean that this is the correct interpretation of the music. Similarly, much of the modern "medieval" music is not recorded in the original form. Instead, it is tainted with modern influences. It is sort of like taking Beethoven's 5th symphony and turning it into a pop song. Although the source remains the same, the result is definitely lacking.
StevenJamesHumonen 10 months ago
@StevenJamesHumonen
the greek byzantine music is as we know more or less exactly like the ancient greek music. in some hymns olny the names changet (athena=maria, apollon=jesus...). and the byzantine music is still living in the greek church psalms. so we can combine the ancient notes with the byzantine music to get a realistic result!
sfentonas11 10 months ago 9
@sfentonas11 Ok... Well that makes more sense than "hundreds of archaeologists and musicians are working on ancient greek notes...". I guess my first comment was in a slightly agitated tone, and I'm sure the individuals working on such projects are well intentioned. Nevertheless, with the large amount of "fake" ancient music out there, one cannot help but remain slightly skeptical.
StevenJamesHumonen 10 months ago
@sfentonas11
καλά, συγκρίνεις τους αμανέδες και τα κλαψουρίσματα των τραγοπαπάδων,με τους αρχαίους Ελληνικούς ύμνους?Αυτό είναι βρισιά.Ασε που το Βυζάντιο απο μόνο του δεν έχει καμία σχέση με την Αρχαία Ελλάδα.
sfentonas88 2 months ago
@sfentonas11 the Greek Byzantine music is half Greek music, if yoy want ancient greek music search in the sounds of ancient Greek language before it was violated by the vandalism of Christians,
Greek language has its own music which is violated by byzantines and christians,
iapetoc6 2 weeks ago
@sfentonas11 That is rather simplistic. there are other ways as some ancient texts describe the sounds very well.
OdinsCloud 2 weeks ago
@StevenJamesHumonen very insightful
1awareness 8 months ago
@StevenJamesHumonen You're a fuckface thats arguing for no reason. Go complain somewhere else.
Zoso709 1 month ago
@StevenJamesHumonen I'm stronlgy inclined to agree with you on aesthetic sense alone. This just doesn't *sound* ancient. Can you site examples you'd consider reasobably authentic?
polymath7 10 months ago
@polymath7 This song is definitely ancient. watch?v=9RjBePQV4xE&feature=related The scales used on this song also lead me to believe that it is more authentic. watch?v=uJLZGBYxfbU&feature=related, but as you know, most of such works are lost to history. I personally admire ancient Chinese music. :)
StevenJamesHumonen 10 months ago
@StevenJamesHumonen
You are right! The only fragments we know from ancient greece are the "epitaph of seikolos" and some other hymns to the sun or to Apollo. But even what we know, is an interpretation of the musical notes we found. (greeks used letters). --- Worse is the matter of roman music! We don't know ANYTHING about it! (some people tried to search some ancient sounds in traditional instruments of italy)
neonenour89 9 months ago
@StevenJamesHumonen It is true that we don't know exactly what music sounded like at the time, and that there is a lot of personal interpretations. Yet Greek music--that is as opposed to pop and other genres--is, and this is unique in Europe I would argue, the only one that has retained a direct connection with the most ancient past, whether it is secular music or church music.
Lysandros 8 months ago
@StevenJamesHumonen In a way, it wouldn't be out of place to play these ancient hymns in the modern Greek sensibility, just as they would read the Illiad or any ancient texts with modern pronounciation. Greek culture--unlike here in the West--has retained much of its character over the ages, influenced by many yet always retaining their own culture.
Lysandros 8 months ago
@StevenJamesHumonen You make many assumptions here, we have been trying to piece together many classical Greek music in its written form. We are making slow progress. Your statement on the surface may sound logical but it is very incorrect!
OdinsCloud 2 weeks ago
LOVE this music!
HistoryLover1550 11 months ago
greeks were genius..they were what
the british are today
cbimbi 11 months ago
greece WAS in europe but the eathquake changed it all :]
cbimbi 11 months ago
Everythings derive from the Greeks!
eddycroso 1 year ago 32
@eddycroso But the Greeks credited much of their knowledge to the Ancient Egyptians...
MrWoofington 1 year ago
@eddycroso not true the greeks traveled all over and mostly got it from africa
McAwesome58 11 months ago
This sounds ancient.....
MSK2232 1 year ago
Δεν μπορώ να πιστέψω.! A real Hymn to the Muse of Mesodomes. I strongly recommend the much brighter version of Layne Redmond hymn to the muse. Very powerful. This one is a bit Byzantine like.?
MARREORO 1 year ago
πλατονας:Δωρε μοι φας σολας λαω συ δω
yeosei5533 1 year ago
@Gamotheos First off you're wrong and secondly no one cares.
soemoithurts1337 1 year ago
I love greece music...
From Armenia :)
JANEREVAN 1 year ago 5
Certainly relates more to me as a modern human, than the ancient Roman music I've just listened to.
macpduff 1 year ago
Greece is the best country in Asia! no doubt!!!!
cbimbi 1 year ago
@cbimbi in Asia??? hahahaha did you went to school?
Arouraiouli 1 year ago
@cbimbi hehe just joking..I love Greece and I visited Athens already , great people! regards..
cbimbi 1 year ago
@cbimbi greece is in Europe
soemoithurts1337 1 year ago
@cbimbi u stupid greece is in europe
McAwesome58 11 months ago
Without greeks we would be now in the year 1230, but we greeks are the best, we now have the year 2010 in the year 2010 and not 1230, so everyone should be thankful to us...
slatz20 1 year ago
@slatz20 That made no sense... But yes, the Greeks contributed greatly to Western Civilization.
Kyousuke687 1 year ago
wow,ancient greek music! sound strange but good...it sound little bit like japanese traditional music,anyway this is perfectly preserved? so its same(or almost same) as the music played 2 or 3000yrs ago?
China4eever 1 year ago
@China4eever Yes, fortunatly greeks took care of they're compositions and peoples can reproduce they're music and instruments with a bit of research.:)
P.S: Your point is good, indeed the tune sounds a bit similar with japanese.
Health and prosperity from Europa.
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MiguelKertsman 1 year ago
where can i get some of this music????
dacevedo86 1 year ago
the eye of tear on the piramid's in egypt is macedonia
wingully 1 year ago
Holy cripe..please look up ancient Greek history before claiming they never accomplished anything.
Denass121 1 year ago 20
incredible music, second delphic hymn is my favorite, salutes from istanbul!
cucuk666 2 years ago 3
Greece is the Best the rest ....well they are the rest
AthenaionPolis 2 years ago 3
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The Greeks never accomplished a single thing worthy of note. With the possible exception of gyros.
You should be ashamed of your lack of intellectual creativity.
MrPontiusPilate 1 year ago
jealousy and inferiority result in PARANOIA
get well soon..LOL!
AthenaionPolis 1 year ago
@MrPontiusPilate Without Greek civilisation there would be no Roman civilisation and ofcourse it Greeks accomplished things worthy of note, a very long list!
22poopoo 1 year ago 2
sfentonas11 1 year ago 2
@sfentonas11 MrPontiusPilate is a twat, how can he be so stupid?
22poopoo 1 year ago
@sfentonas11 I agree "PontiusPilate" is an idiot, and knows nothing of history, but no need to refer to us Americans as "stupid Neanderthals".
PS - I love the music you have uploaded onto your channel. I wish you could upload more Ancient Greek music. Its hard to come by
PPS - "The Godfather" was/is an awesome movie, lol.
Kyousuke687 1 year ago
ωραία όργανα είχε η αρχαία ελλάδα..αναρωτιεμαι αν η μουσική ήταν όντως ετσι..
Alexis3731 2 years ago
anybody know where to get lyrics for this?
thanks!
Jarren95 2 years ago 2
wow, such a melodic language!
gasmbay 2 years ago 4
Bel lavoro di immaginazione, peccato però che sia tutto inventato e che, ahinoi, non potremo mai ascoltare la musica greca.
PoesSoul7 2 years ago 17
liyer.
soufianeMystikal 2 years ago
wonderful music piece. Could you post the lyrics, too?
OldWaysFollower 2 years ago 3
Very beautiful.
anaxaretec 3 years ago 3
when was this song written?
Germania7 3 years ago 2
So greeks invented the guitar... everybody should know that.. sometimes people say the guitar came with the arabs, but the truth is that after the Greeks lost Egypt to the arabs they came in contact with mathmatics and different sciences from greeks.. the result was the Algbra and some other things like the guitars with the shape they have today as arabic guitars....
Neoptolomos 3 years ago 43
Apollo invented the guitar.
lovelennono 2 years ago 5
lol:)
gasmbay 2 years ago
no, what the ancients refered to as "kithara", was not the guitar as we know it, but a kind of harp, rather.
theo9952 2 years ago
Actually, there were guitar-like instruments before the Greeks. Look at Hittite rock art: a kind of lute-/guitar-like instrument is displayed in one example. Considering that a nearly-identical intrument was found in a 3000-year-old Tocharian grave in what's now Western China, it would not be surprising at all if the early Proto-Indo-Europeans themselves had a similar instrument 6000 years ago!
SeadogDriftwood 2 years ago
@SeadogDriftwood and where is the music from all these ? Only the greeks have something to show for. I believe something that has facts and not talk. Where are the notes for the music? The muses where the first dieties in the ancient greek history. All the other dates and history is speculation to me. I want music!!!
mariatim2000 2 years ago 2
@mariatim2000 Believe me, I too want to hear the music from the other cultures I described. If only some had survived! How much more we could know about the history of music - and how wonderful it would be to hear 3000-year-old melodies!
Fortunately, such ancient music DOES exist, albeit from Mesopotamia. The Hurrian Hymns, while mostly fragmentary, date back to around 1400 B.C. There's just one problem: we don't know how to read their musical notation well enough to perform them!
SeadogDriftwood 2 years ago
@SeadogDriftwood Then let's hear it. I don't think so because it is probably not music. And just a few fragments that can't be palyed don't say that these people had music. The greeks have Orpheys,Homer,Pyndar,Sapho...so many!!!! Hymns,Paians,Poems....so many!!!
mariatim2000 2 years ago
Greece is the best. the rest is the rest!
Igal Flint-Spartan Gymnastic Instructor since 83
igalflint 2 years ago 2
@Neoptolomos
even the name is the same kithara>gitara >gouidar
progonolatreia 1 year ago
@progonolatreia
hmmm, also persians use "tar" meaning "string", i heard somewere that "qui" or "gi" (from quitar) posibly means the name of the wood of a specific tree. We will never know. Or perhaps traveled by the comercials roots from distant Koreea where it was found one of the oldest string instrument.
best regards!
TheOrientalEast 1 year ago
@Neoptolomos the guitar as we know it today was invented in spain. there might be similar string instruments from other countries that influenced that though
soemoithurts1337 1 year ago
@soemoithurts1337 no. guitar was greek as was the trombone.
Gamotheos 1 year ago
@Gamotheos se gamise piso o 8eos fenete .. xaxaxaxaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
FYROMINJA 1 year ago
@soemoithurts1337 yes and the modern sand was invented by saharans
yeosei5533 1 year ago
@Neoptolomos YES
encoberta 1 year ago
@Neoptolomos The first string instrument was from India, the Veena (an earlier form of the sitar). The Greeks developed a guitar-like instrument seperately a couple of centuries later. The Arabs got their ideas from a mix of Greek and Indian trade.
CatastrophicDisease 1 year ago
@CatastrophicDisease The guitar was invented by the ancient mesopotamians, perhaps the akkadians or sumer, not the greeks, nor the indians or arabs
Rawmundo 1 year ago
@Neoptolomos No no my friend, the greeks nor the arabs invented the guitar, the ancient mesopotamians invented the guitars early form, earlier than the oud, wall reliefs show depictions of men playing oud looking instruments
Rawmundo 1 year ago
@Neoptolomos Greeks never ruled Egypt but the Romans ;)
bruskyildirim 11 months ago
@bruskyildirim
Sorry, you are wrong! I don't know what you know exactly about history, but it's obvious, you don't know much. In 332 b.C. Alexander the Great, who for sure was a Greek emperor, conquered Agypt !!! After that, he became Pharao of Agypt until his dead, and after his dead Ptolemeos, one of his generals, became Pharao and the capital was Alexandria a town build by Alexander which still exists! Then Greeks ruled until the dead of the Greek Pharao Cleopatra (more than 300 years)
Neoptolomos 11 months ago
@Neoptolomos 5)Ottomans also get affected by East Roman empire but still they are turks ;) 6)in turkey we say rum "sons of romans" - yunan for "greeks" surely that is a sign ;) and yes still there are Rums in Turkey 7) i dont believe Alexander was greek but Macedonian and really donot understand why you greeks allways try to make him "greek". i dont say that to insult you. Ancient Greek is already glory of you Greeks ;) as we already have ours :)
bruskyildirim 11 months ago
@bruskyildirim
...than, after the dead of Cleopatra, Romans integrated Agypt into the Roman empire. For 300 years it became Roman, until the Roman empire split into two parts the east- and west-roman empire. The East-Roman-Empire was ruled by Greek Emperors and Agypt became Greek again until 600 a.C. when the moslemic Arabs conquered Agypt..... Before, Agypt was a christian Nation and the oldest Christian Religion comes from Agypt....
Neoptolomos 11 months ago
@Neoptolomos 1)sure Alexander was a great man but his and his successors' period was short. -building cities is not a sign of long last ;)- 2) Later Romans invaded Egypt (Remember Cleopatra and Ceaser ;) 3)when Arabs conquered egpyt, it was already a dominion of East Roman Empire 4)Romans may get affected by Greeks but yet you cannot assume them Greeks
bruskyildirim 11 months ago
@bruskyildirim
1. Alexander was GREEK !! But you can't accept that, claiming bullshit... just because Greeks were of different Tribes, it doesn't mean that only Atheneans were Greek... I hate this bullshittin wankers hating Greeks while believing knowing anything about history....
2. East Romans were talking GREEK ... Konstantin spoke GREEK, Justinian spoke GREEK etc. and the official LANGUAGE WAS GREEK in East Roman Empire - You can accept it or not !
-> You know why turks say RUMS ?
Neoptolomos 11 months ago
@Neoptolomos
1) it is clear now, you are just one of the assholes , who doesnot know how to distinguish Romans and greeks
2)if u were such a great nation, it would be accepted by everyone but yet you are the most greatest wankers who claim Macedonia as greece and Alexander as a greek
3)you are so pathetic to blame TURKS (they ruled you for over 400 years and yet you have still your culture as before
4) stop bullshitting and tell how you behave , TURKS in eastern Thrace!
bruskyildirim 11 months ago
@Neoptolomos
5) use your brain - if you have any amount of it- not to claim Alexander the Great as greek
but to get yourself out of crisis, so maybe you will be able to avoid , your ass getting fucked!!!!
6)dont even try to contact me, bcs i only respond mankind not the wankerkind!!!!!!!!!
bruskyildirim 11 months ago
@bruskyildirim
It's easy to insult people on the internet isn't it? I see, you used your brain, thanks for that... You showed a lot about your great turkish culture ... Ass fucked? Me? You stupid, I don't have any problems with gay people, that's the problem with turkish culture,you hate gays but most of you are gays !!
Great, I'm impressed .... you are such a turkish great girlfucking man, wow !
I'm just telling the truth, but you can't compete to that and insult me instead...
Neoptolomos 11 months ago
@bruskyildirim
All names in Alexanders family were of greek origin, they spoke greek, they lived like greeks, clothing, olympic games ... everything... The sad truth is, that once there was a book written, claiming Makedonians were not greek and since then anti Greek propaganda is based on this crap...
I don't claim Atta Turk was not a Turk, because it's not that far away in time, but about Alexander they claim what ever they want, because he lived more than 2000 years ago..
Neoptolomos 11 months ago
@bruskyildirim
- because Turks deny the existing of GREEK culture, religion and people in their Nation and todays territory that formely was populated by GREEKS. But Turks occupied Greek land, banished and killed greeks and people who couldn't or didn't leave, especially women, had been assimilated ...
That's the truth and non of your bullshit anti greek propaganda
3. I've never claimed agyptians were greeks... I don't know what your comments are all about,so please start using your brain
Neoptolomos 11 months ago
@Neoptolomos greeks invented the PC and Mac as well .....
KaxiLaxi 9 months ago
@KaxiLaxi
the first mechanical computation machines were probably build by greeks (antikythera mechanism is only one evidence) ... but to finish this comment with a joke and reply to your joke, .... greeks invented Steve Jobs so that he could invent MACs and iPhones and iPads and iPods and i.............
Neoptolomos 9 months ago
@KaxiLaxi well, as a matter of fact the first computer was invented by Greeks. it is called the 'Antikythera Mechanism'. Look it up on google you should find plenty of info on it. Cheers mate
rocoreb 9 months ago
beautiful music.
Cronos1996 3 years ago
einai alh8eia oti oi progonoi mas eixan efeurei ena eidos "pipe organ"? wow!
ProphetCassandra 3 years ago
@ProphetCassandra "pipe organ" ἐννοεῖς τὸν ἄσκαυλο (σημερινὴ γκάιντα /τσαμπούνα) ἢ τὴν ὑδραύλιδα τοῦ Κτησιβίου (πρόγονο τοῦ ἐκκλησιαστικοῦ ὀργάνου); Τὸ δεύτερο ἔγινε ἐκκλησιαστικὸ ἀπὸ τοὺς Δυτικοὺς ὄταν τὸ ἔδοσαν οἱ Ῥωμαῖοι στοὺς Φράγκους τὸ 757. Στὴν Ἀνατολικὴ Ῥώμη ἦταν λαϊκὸ ὄργανο. Ἕνα ἀπὸ τὰ μεγαλύτερα ἦταν στὸ Ἱπποδρόμιο τῆς Κων/πόλεως...
hadedorus 1 year ago
poly wraio!mpravo!
Volthramios 3 years ago