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  • Lol we are not "created" and we are not all equal.

  • We degenerate through radiation, chemical imbalance and copying errors. Adaptation through genetic recombination causes variation but those are neautral mutations but when the total fucntion of the gene changes then we do not find a beneficial increase of information to the overall system, which actually supports degeneration and debunks macro evolution. Homosexuality stops procreation, so natural laws don't support it. U seem to have exchanged the truth for a lie with being gay as a consequence

  • the purpose is to eliminate a personal God from any active role in the origin of the universe and all its components, including man.

  • The fact is that evolutionists believe in evolution because they want to. It is their desire at all costs to explain the origin of everything without a Creator. Evolutionism is thus intrinsically an atheistic religion. Some may prefer to call it humanism, and New Age evolutionists may place it in the context of some form of pantheism, but they all amount to the same thing. Whether atheism or humanism (or even pantheism),

  • There is no evidence of evolution. The genome is the only thing that ever reorganizes the genome. Nothing else does and natural selection can only select what is reorganized by the limited directives in the genome.

    All function, working parts and mechanisms always have a maker and life forms are not exempt from the rules of science so life forms have a Maker too.

    Don't say I never tried to help you understand.

  • Your teacher is funny. It's a math class and he's talking about evolution and creationism. Unless the poll he was doing was used to learn about statistical error via sample size, beta, and standard deviation etc.

  • I can't believe in 2011 that people still dont believe in evolution and choose to ignore science. The world is not 6000 years old. FACT. Get over it.

  • @woodybarn66 Evolution is not a fact

    Evolution (or Macro-evolution, to be specific) is not a fact! You cannot scientifically prove something that you cannot observe.

  • @SuperZwinky10 It is a fact if there is overwhelming evidence for it. Ok, you can't 100% something if you can't observe it, but you can be sure neough to call it a fact. By your logic, you could say that gravity isn't a fact. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's not a fact.

  • Very weird most people believe in God

  • Less "um, ya know, like, I don't know"... These speech patterns don't serve you well. Too bad about your misinformed teacher.

  • @ProCreationist There are published examples of speciation, which you can quickly find via Google. With a little work,you can find references to they scientific literature. So where do you draw the line on 'micro' vs. 'macro' evolution? The change between any two generations will be tiny. So building up significant changes requires many generations. If you state the the fossil record is ' a couple of fossils', you need to visit just one museum of natural history.

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  • It's called "Social Darwinism." Creationists love to throw out examples like Stalin and Hitler to "make their case," but it's nothing more than a logical fallacy. Believing in (the truth) evolution does NOT equate to believing that any "race" of human beings are better than any other, and in fact, evolutionists believe that ALL humans are equal as the species called homo sapiens. Skin color is no different than hair color.This kind of bullsh%t that your teacher is playing is just plain WRONG!

  • @ProCreationist "to say that skin pigmentation can even make a contribution to making a new species is just not true." Agreed, I didn't say that. If you read real science books rather than the bible you'd see there is an overwhelming amount of evidence to support the theory of evolution.

    I know you won't, you think without your faith your life would have no meaning. I know religion & can see where you're coming from, but I wasn't too scared to learn real science.

  • @ProCreationist You're right, Darwin made mistakes. I hate the term survival of the fittest, it is confusing.

    On beneficial mutation, that is totally dependent on environmental factors. A simple example of mutation on a micro evolutionary level is human skin pigmentation. Light skin in equatorial regions is not beneficial, but as humans moved to higher latitudes it became beneficial & came to predominate by natural selection.

  • Ah, 'survival of the fittest' is a phrase that is so often used out of context to draw wrong conclusions. Darwin only used the term in his 5th edition of On the Origin of Species as a synonym for natural selection. Modern biologists hardly ever use the term.

  • swing back and forth is losing my focus a lot......

  • No offence, but are you gay?

  • @Coffeeisnecessary DID YOU NOT WATCH HIS COMING OUT STORY>>> RELATED VIDEOS???

  • equality is a social consept not biological. We are actually not all created equal some people are smarter and some are stronger because natural selection we have evolved to have variety, socially, however, everyone has an equal say so really equality has nothing to do with evolution

  • @GingerPretzel I am not sure but I think when people usually connect the concept of equality with evolution it is rather in the way that evolution shows that we all have common ancestors and are not seperate.

  • That jacket is soooo cute

  • @thewhatsit104 that jacket?

  • @Meskiagkasher the jacket that he is wearing

  • @thewhatsit104 your focus is off

  • @Meskiagkasher maybe YOUR focus is off. lol jk but seriously he is too hot for me to listen to alot of the stuff he says i just cant get over it cuz he is soooo hot.

  • Obviously the teacher has absolutely no idea what "survival of the fittest" even means. He's trying to suggest a connectio with eugenics. In evolution the only point to being "better" is in the replication of the species. Humans are not "better" than cockroachs.. There is an argument to be made for exactly the opposite. Basically the guy should stick to math, hopefully he paid attention in that class.

  • Someone should have suggested a survey between the practical power of calculus and numbers that change because God intervened. That would be more relevant to math class.

  • Created equal should only apply to the court system because we know not everyone is exactly the same. THAT's what the founding fathers meant.

  • People are not all equal...I'm special...deal with it

  • Carlkr what your teacher was trying to explain to you is the theory of evolution (as defined by evolutionists) reflects the capitalistic system of rewarding the successful producers so they will produce more & giving less to the ones are not successful. This ensures the resources will be maximized

    Ironically liberals DO the exact opposite by seeking an equilibrium. If there was an artificial equilibrium in nature giving the less fit the same resources. LIKE BEGETS LIKE & the less fit increase

  • oops, I left a part out...Evolution relies on DIVERSITY. For any species to survive it has to have adequate diversity to adapt to changes in the environment. And that ties into the point about us being intelligent enough to recognize that fact.Your teacher is a tool.

  • Your math teacher is confusing evolution with Eugenics.(practiced in Europe, AND the US in the 30's and 40's) .Evolution doesn't say the "strongest" or "best" survive. It says the" fittest" survive, which means the ones best adapted to the environment they wind up in. We are equal, because we are an intelligent, social species that recognize that our differences make us stronger by providing greater survivability for our species as a whole.

  • American denial of evolution is only equal (maybe even worse) to muslim denial of evolution. Americans should be ashamed of this.

  • @LesPaul2006 "American denial of evolution is only equal (maybe even worse) to muslim denial of evolution. Americans should be ashamed of this"

    Europe fell for this foolishness of randomness & selection creating (while defying entropy) an upward spiral complexity & information because there are more liberals in Europe. Liberals are philosophers not intellectuals. This is how seemingly intelligent men can believe the mind boggling complexity of cell can arise by chemical reactions & physics.

  • @LesPaul2006

    There is a reason why you start the theory of evolution AFTER the species are already built instead of at the single cell level where it should start. If the single cell defies change, the theory is invalid. IM sure you have no idea (as most evolutionists do not) what is needed to prove the naturalistic origins of all species.

    Among our long list of living fossils hundreds of millions of years old that invalidate the theory is a 525 MYO pterobranch genus. Fossils = STASIS

  • @toobsucker Pterobrach are asexual. How much evolution would you expect? Say something more about entropy, I require amusement.

    That there must be an upward spiral of information was proven by Schneider, but your political associations are a figment of your rabid imagination.

  • @gamesbok "Pterobrach are asexual. How much evolution would you expect?"

    Incorrect. The pterobranch are dioecious (both male & female) the larva can reproduce by budding new colonies. Your premise is incorrect to begin with therefore your conclusions are also incorrect

    Google

    "The Development and Structure of Feeding Arms in Antarctic Species of Pterobranchs (Pterobranchia, Hemichordata)"

    And read

  • @gamesbok "an upward spiral of information was proven by Schneider"

    Good one. Tell me how do you get away with using an intelligence to intelligently design and firmly establish the fixed (un-evolveable) parameters of the PC hardware & the evolutionary algorithms and still claim naturalism. You FAIL to understand your naturalistic theory starts with NO fixed parameters. From RNA world on up the entire system must change. You must show how fixed (un-evolveable) elements can be established

  • @toobsucker I don't use intelligence at all, only chemistry. I presume you have an alternative theory, but you're not going to tell us what it might be.

  • @gamesbok "I don't use intelligence at all, only chemistry'

    What is that supposed to mean, your a stupid drug user?. If you mean the cells assembly can be explained by chemistry alone you are far from the reality of the situation. chemical reactions have no ability to create fixed parameters like the cytoskeleton or the parameters to fold the proteins of the molecular machines needed for cell division. Your an atheist because of emotional presuppositions not because of evidence of naturalism

  • @toobsucker If you think there is something going on that is not chemistry, then you are obliged to tell us what that might be, but you're not going to do that, are you.

  • @toobsucker

    sounds you're under the idea that since a modern cell is complex, it couldn't have formed via natural laws and time..all it really tells us is that the first cells couldn't have been anywhere near as complex as they are now..in this reality great complexity can come from simple beginnings and order can emerge from chaos if the laws of nature are just right..chemistry CAN explain the origin of very simple cell-like structures. watch cdk007's clip based on the work of Dr. Szostak.

  • I was reading a book recently that was trying to prove that equality is a right that everyone gets, not something you have to prove you deserve. It was a very interesting argument. From "Animal Liberation" by Peter Singer.

  • Such teachers are a disgrace!

  • U look so hot in this video

  • That's a nice grey sky :) we get boring grey skies that don't move or rain but block out the sun.

    I miss second derivatives!

    Oh, and equality is about respect and laws. Evolution is a biological process that takes thousands of years... of COURSE the two are compatible :)

  • Populations evolve, not individuals. Your teacher is an idiot.

    If your teacher believes in the bible, does he also believe in slavery?

  • HMMM Im a monkey i can kill people i can shit in my hand and throw it at people it all makes scence!

  • @supermariobubba You're the one saying that, not anyone else. Go kill someone and you'll end up in jail and, if we're lucky, you'll enjoy a brief stay in deathrow.

  • @hotqueekboi

    In Utah, a teacher requires a degree in their relevant field and a teaching certificate (this is actually almost like a degree, you get one through college/uni). If a biology teacher wanted to teach math, such a teacher would require a certificate for teaching math also. Of course schools give preference to the most qualified applicants.

  • I find it so ironic that a maths teacher believes more strongly in intelligent design than evolution, to the point that he tries to shove in the student's faces. I personally believe that evolution DID happen, but the catalyst that started it all off was an intelligent designer. YES - they both can exist. I argue that they both together back each other up in holes in the opposing theories.

    However he sounds like a complete douche when he says evolution /= equality. Has he not thought that our

  • @hotqueekboi

    ...that our species might have evolved to the point that we can't evolve any further until their is balance and harmony in the one single most dominant species on our planet? Ironically I bet this guy might be a "save the whales" hippie (but I do think this is important) but that would be MORE of an equality issue than purely social constructs (race/gender/sexuality equality) because it counteracts "survival of the fittest" because it involves telling the fittest to stop preying

  • @hotqueekboi

    on the weakest

  • @hotqueekboi Evolution DIDN'T happen. Is still happening right now.

  • Sounds like Social Darwinism.

  • Ask him if believes Intelligent design is a science. If he does then ask him why you don't find papers on it in scientific journals. There are one or two mentions of it but nothing compared to the 115'000 which were discovered by a study of 20'000'000 science papers over 20 years and that study was conducted some time ago. ID is not part of science as its assertions are completely untestable so...it shouldn't be taught in science classes. Political science yes but not biology.

  • @Hulk9999

    ID shouldn't be taught in ANY public school class unless it was part of a comparative religious studies course. THAT is the ONLY place such a topic belongs.

  • Equality is idea that everyone should be treated equally. That means equally under the law, same rights, same opportunity, etc.

    Evolution is descent with genetic modification. Evolution has nothing to do with how humans treat each other. If a plague wiped out all people with blonde hair, it doesn't mean that all non-blondes were "better" than everyone else.

    Your math teacher is a tool and not a professor of biology. Ignore him

  • @Rahn127

    Evolution does have something to do with how humans treat each other. Check out the concept of the "selfish gene" and/or sociobiology. Altruism provides a selective advantage for gregarious species. This is just one example of how evolution does apply to behavior.

  • god bless the Intelectuall and may god have pitty on you week minded souls anyone who agrees with this video is weak minded and dalusional :) dont like it tough get some brains you monkey people!

  • Wow, I am amazed that a MATH teacher was politicizing against evolution. Kinda hilarious, glad my teachers never did that (maybe my teachers were smarter and accepted the fact of evolution and I'm just really lucky?)

    Love the idea that everyone who agrees with evolution must be a Social-Darwinist Survival-of-the-fittest douche. If this comes true can I be part of the ethics-free Machiavellian ruling class? (even though I wear glasses and am not very strong and therefore shouldn't qualify?)

  • we should not acknowledge Evolution Vs ID . It's like: Obama Vs Superman or the Pope Vs Godzilla. They never meet... because of the obvious. only one of them exists in reality. Makes for great cartoons though.

  • Sorry, maybe I misunderstood, but if I believe in Evolution, then by default I am allegedly saying that all people are created equal? No, I don't think so.

    It means we are all created DIFFERENTLY and that genetic diversity is what insure that we are continually improving, and finding the best genetic path through life & on to an improved life.

    Evolution means diversity, the greater the diversity, the greater the likelihood that one of the variation will be superior & pass those genes on.

  • @blueboyblue

    Over specialize and you breed in weakness.  Diversity is awesome.

  • Will you marry me?

  • Your math teacher is ridiculous. He shouldn't base a class about this.

    Also, on a side note, "survival of the fittest" does not exist. The process of evolution is more commonly referred to as "natural selection"

  • If you go to a public school you need to go to the school board and/or the principle and let them know what is going on. Your math teacher is breaking the law and should be fired and have their teaching credentials stripped from them, period.

  • @SanRafaelSwell Why do you think the teacher is breaking the law?

  • @wondergundy

    He is pushing religious ideas, specifically a brand of christianity, in a public school. This is a violation of the US Constitution as well as a violation of Federal Court rulings. He is breaking the law by pushing creationism/intelligent design. Doing so is illegal on several fronts.

  • @SanRafaelSwell I took it more like the teacher was offering an opinion... for discussion, not teaching. I don't think it appropriate for Math class, but was not aware that mentioning it was illegal. You think he should be written up? Warned? Stoned? You would think teachers would know better.

  • @wondergundy

    Perhaps. Offering his opinion is fine. Opening up a discussion of such a topic in a public school is illegal. There are other places to discuss such things, like church. Yes, this also happened in a math class. It is obvious what the teachers intentions were. Yes, I think the teacher should be reprimanded. There are public teachers in the US that do far worse though. Some even go so far as to say that there is no evidence for evolution and that it is "just a theory".

  • @SanRafaelSwell How is it possible to have a teaching degree and deny basic science? Something has to change.

  • @wondergundy

    You don't need to have a degree in education to teach in public schools. You only need a teaching certificate but I do understand your point. Someone teaching biology has a degree in biology and how they could say that evolution was wrong or lacked evidence is beyond me.

  • Whenever science begins to show the inferiority of the white race, white people begin to calmer about equality how we are all part of the HUMAN race

    Well actually "HUMAN" comes from the word Humus that means A brown or black organic matter soil that bears life

    watch on you tube "All NON-Africans are Neanderthal Hybrids" the facts are in white people are hybrids of half ape like neanderthals and black people that's why psychologically white people are so F*cked up

  • @godscuttingyoudown

    Are you serious? Do you honestly believe this? WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE???????

  • You are demonstrably wrong about the etymology of the word "human". Let me educate your stupid ass.mid-13c., from M.Fr. humain "of or belonging to man," from L. humanus, probably related to homo (gen. hominis) "man," and to humus "earth," on notion of "earthly beings," as opposed to the gods (cf. Heb. adam "man," from adamah "ground"). And the etymology for humus is as follows.

    1796, from L. humus "earth, soil," probably from humi "on the ground,"

    You are totally clueless.

  • @godscuttingyoudown All modern humans are African

  • your teacher is confusing "belief" in survival of the fittest as a reality in Natural Selection with "believing in it" as a moral social precept. He is either a douche for intentionally confusing those two ideas or he is a douche for being a teacher and not be astute enough to realize the blunder...

  • next time ask your teacher what does this have to do with math. keep your opinions about non relevent topics out of math class. seriously. tell him to stfu if it's not relevent. he's pushing his theories, his agendas down your thoats (into your brains, even)

    what a statement. evolution = non equality. i hope he means strickly genetic. i.e. down syndrome and 47 chromosomes vs. 46. and not as in human rights.we all have emotions. we all bleed. we are all equally human regardless of genes.

  • You are right. All humans are equal and that does not contradict evolution. Evolution was called "Mohammedan theory of evolution" by western scientists in Darwin's time. Evolution is an Islamic theory, NOT an atheist theory. I have proved that beyond any doubt with a historical document from Darwin's time. watch my video: Richard Dawkins Exposed - Evolution Proves God.

    /watch?v=Ugu3cZN-3jU

  • @helasmoh what does the theory of evolution have to do with Islam? LOL seriously...I see no Islamic doctine in the theory. So, lets say you are correct, for arguments sake and evolution was explained by an Islamic guy...it doesnt make it Islamic for that reason any more than the Newton's physics are Christian...Im not gonna watch your stupid video because youve already given me sufficient reason to suspect its rampant bias.

  • @jns124able

    Then don't watch my stupid video, no one cares.

  • @helasmoh my thoughts exactly

  • Evolved better?

    A dark skinned person is better adapted to hotter climate,

    a white skinned person is better adapted to cooler climate.

    Whos better? Neither and both in a specific way.

    Not sure if your teacher fully understands evolution.

    And humans are apes, you couldnt be like half human half orangutan

  • @DeaXi69

    Humans are humans, that's why they are called humans.

  • I have rule: do not argue with anyone regarding evolution vs. creationism unless BOTH sides understand what evolution is and BOTH sides understand what creationism is. I often find that those who argue against evolution do not understand what evolution is or have a misconception. Don't waste your time.

  • Why don't you say you teacher that due to Evolution he's the week point in Human's evolution. LOL..

  • Everything changes, and that's what evolution is ... 'change over time'. Darwin stated that some are "BETTER SUITED" for their environment - that doesn't mean intrinsically BETTER as human beings. Humans , however, are not equal in many ways. There is great diversity in intelligence, sexuality, and in emotional & physical traits. The greatest equality for humans comes FROM humans in that all should be TREATED with the SAME measure of equality. That's a work in progress ... ie. EVOLUTION.

  • Depends on what you want to measure. Evolution is the great equalizer - every organism has an equal chance to make it in the world, and which species make it depends on blind chance and a deterministic mechanism, and even that's relative, as no species has ever lasted more than 20 million years or so. Fortunately, we thinking animals can rank on more than mere survival; we can rank on education, on beauty, on congeniality, on friendship, all sorts of subjective and objective traits.

  • All people are people. We are all the same species and evolution affects humans less and less all the time. If natural selection was really much of a factor for humans today, half of us wouldn't even be alive. Also not everyone is genetically equal. Some people have much superior genetics. It doesn't mean we have to apply evolution by natural selection to ourselves as a social group. That man shouldn't be teaching in a public school.

  • Your teacher misrepresents evolution. The idea of equality is a philosophical social moral argument. Not a biological one. Evolution does not in any sense provide evidence that there is an inequality of races. Evolution is adapting to one's environment & the one's better adapted has a greater ability to procreate. For example, dark skinned people are better adapted to hot sunny climates like Africa. Light skinned people are better adapted to cold darker climates. No bearing on superiority.

  • one day we will be able to get rid of all you c0ck suckers in the most vicious way possible.

  • I hate it when people say "I believe in evolution". Evolution does not require any belief. It has nothing to do with faith and everything to do with evidence. I was born into a religious family and it took a long while for me see my past my fundamental teachings. Now I recognize that, just maybe, my church didn't know everthing. I still believe in God (most of the time) but now I don't try to force my view of the world into a fundamental religious context.

  • "means that some people are better than others"

    no, it means some people are more adapted to their environment than others. This is verifiably accurate.

    Also, evolutionists don't think that "people are literally equal" we believe that everybody should be TREATED equally. as in, no laws harming others. no bullying etc. in other words, we believe in fair opportunities to the fundamental rights we humans give ourselves.

  • imagine that faggot in the video with a cock in his ass

  • @Masriboy1985 don't project you own desires.

  • @Masriboy1985 I think that would actually be pretty hot myself, just maybe phrase yourself differently ;) I'm sure you imagined this fact yourself in your head so you yourself sir have been day dreaming about gay sex for a while. try getting our of your mothers sunday dress go out and find yourself a nice man, and stop day dreaming about you bumming Carl :P

  • @T1mm1eT3rr0r OMG a homo is trying to make a homo come back, but fails miserably. I saw the replay and i cracked hard. Funny how homos try to make insulting comebacks and fail miserably. funny how you most likely been imagining whatever u said about this fa ggot carl and was looking for a way to let it out. no problem bud, we all know how u like a c0ck up ur ass.

  • @Masriboy1985 Dear, there was no cum back... it was a comment in which it was meant to make you laugh. clearly got that across because you stated " I saw the replay (I think you were trying for the word reply) and cracked hard. " I'm not sure what " cracking hard " is but if your intention was to protay the fact that you laughed then Hazaa! Who really cares how I like it... clearly your focused on it, so please focus your intellect on something greater then what I'm doing in my bedroom xoxox <3

  • Some people are better than others! I'm better than your teacher! ;p

  • Darwin did not come up with social darwinism. His idea of "survival of the fittest", which he applied to the natural world. People after him came up with the stupid idea of applying it to society.

  • @Insanekid95

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Darwin's famous book was actually titled: "On the Origin of Species by means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of the FAVOURED RACES in the struggle for life". Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­haha!

    If that isn't a heading for a manifesto for Social Darwinism, what is? To hammer down the point, in his other book the Descent of Man, Darwin CLEARLY indicates that he favours to application of Eugenics in society! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

  • @cletusnze He didnt mean "race" as in black white etc...

    He meant different race's/species of animals.

  • It seems like your teacher doens't know the difference between being the same (genetically) and being equal.

    Equality means having the same rights and having the same value as a human being. This doesn't necessarily make you the same in terms of thoughts or beliefs or genes.

  • Your teacher is just repeating Nazi propaganda. Tell him to learn what evolution is before making any statements.

  • They are not mutually exclusive.

    ID:There is an intelligent being which made the universe

    Evolution:A process which explains the diversities in species.

  • Show me somthing that is in between monkey and human! as EVELUTION is DIFFERENCE in race major change,

  • @NEXTCMedia

    Good point! In answer, I would point to ATHEISTS! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­hah! The have the bodies of HUMANS but the minds of SIMIANS! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha­ha!

  • @cletusnze there's aload of biblical PROOFS on earth found noahs ark or what resembles an ark in the top of a mountain, world flood recorded in many countries and talks of world floods! many historians or people who write things from past in history have written about jesus and what he had done, also miricals!

  • @NEXTCMedia

    "there's aload of biblical PROOFS on earth found noahs ark or what resembles an ark in the top of a mountain, world flood recorded in many countries......."

    I don't like relying just on the Bible - because it DOES HAVE FLAWS! Besides, what is true should be provable from FACTS observable - directly or indirectly - TODAY!

    Much, thought not all, of the Bible is written in METAPHORICAL language! That is BEYOND QUESTION!

  • @cletusnze Actually every thing in the bible has many historical figures who can back the bible up FACT! and im sorry to think you dont agree and your choice

  • @aTrueHybrid

    1 Kings 7:23 - God does not know Pi, apparently.

    That and the fact the bible is a terribly boring account of peasant disputes, and the fact that god, by his own admission is supposed to be one of many "I am a jealous god". Only he is not. Then he gives the sons of israel the mandate to commit genocide. All of this is a catalog of human folly, more than proof of divine existance.

    BTW... god is a human creation. A (barbarous and violent) fairy tale for grownups.

  • Your teacher is truculently opposing two meanings of the word "equality". Being equal in the eyes of the law, to have the same rights IN SPITE of our individual differences is not mutually exclusive with being different in the biologic sense. Some people are geniuses, some have learning disabilities, some are both geniuses and mentally impaired. Your teacher's argument is frankly not an argument at all. It's drivel. He should stick to math.

  • As someone who studies economics, and has an interest in social science, the truth of the matter is not that certain people are"smarter, stronger or more creative" naturally, but rather that these things can come through being nurtured. The reason then that things can seem to be unequal in this way is that it is easier to nurture an ability to sing for example, if you are singing from a young age because your parents like to sing and brought you up in that way, than if your parents hate singing.

  • @DynumoTV

    "but rather that these things can come through being nurtured"

    So is it low intelligence is nutured by religious parents or

    Religion is nurtured by low intelligence.

    Or a combination of both since the religious parents who brain wash their children have lower intelligence to start with.......

  • @gorilla199uncensored I know plenty of intelligent people who are religious, and thinking that religion equals stupidity is ignorant. Many religious people believe in evolution too, so I don't see where religion is coming into this.

  • @DynumoTV

    "thinking that religion equals stupidity is ignorant."

    I never said that so I guess that makes you stupid for not reading properly/understanding.

    First 2 are just questions.

    But the fact is as intelligence/education level increases belief in god/s decreases.

    "Many religious people believe in evolution too"

    Yes many acceopt evolution, and accept the bible etc if full of mistakes etc etc etc but then pretend the bit about the magic guy is real....

    Is that rational?

  • First of all theres no such thing as 'better' in the evolution model, just different. 2ndly its not a prescriptive moral doctrine so even if it did stipulate some ppl were better, it would only be explaining how things are, not how they should be or how we should behave so there's no reason 4 someone who accepts evolution, to be against equality.

  • Report this teacher, he should not be briging religious views onto class.

  • I'm a devout Catholic and I believe 100% in evolution. I do not feel threatened by it whatsoever. Why is a god who created life through a process as complex and beautiful as evolution any less omnipotent than a god who created the world in 7 days? Even if the majority of Christians and the church itself disagree with me, it doesn't mean I'm going to hell. Just like life itself, the church is constantly evolving. Progressive thinkers are catalysts for change.

  • @poshko41

    "evolution any less omnipotent than a god who created the world in 7 days? "

    How not omnipotent is a god who cant even get xtians to agree what an xtian is?

    How not omnipotent is a god who writes the bible!

    Is so wrong even you relaise its not correct.

    "it doesn't mean I'm going to hell"

    Accoridng to some of them, you are, some say you are not xtian even.

    "church is constantly evolving"

    even they know the bibles stories are ignorant fairy tales.

  • @aTrueHybrid Don't bother, most have us have read the bible and that's why we are atheists so don't need a knuckle dragging creatard talking shit about shit, ya dig?

  • hey dude u seem like a smart guy. glad u dont believe in that creationism. really i was relieved cos in the past couple of days i have encountered so many people living in the so called "modern world" thinking the earth was formed 6000 yrs ago (most of them from Canada and the US). I was totally shocked. Didn't know how much more of that i was going to see.

    And your maths teacher?... tell him to fukk off to some church and do theology. i'd never let him teach anybody anything

  • you are freaking cute! marry me!

  • thats bullshit. evolution and equal rights are two totally different subjects.

  • All humans are equal. We have evolved to a degree which enables us to see the moral implications of our deeds as well as the past misfortunes of our ancestors. Our brains have given us the ability to choose not to discriminate against those that are different than ourselves. We learn. It is still our choice whether or not we apply what we've learned to the betterment of our species.

  • ...ultimately we rejected individuals who were too violent to cooperate with others and they were shunned from populations who were working together, much like what we do now with criminals or antisocials. those who had the genes for well developed frontal lobes, which meant better ability to reason, curb aggressive impulses, and basically be "good people" had a better chance to pass on their genes and eventually shift allelic balance towards healthy social characteristics, which we value today.

  • your math teacher has no understanding of what evolutionary theory is. it says nothing about morality or egalitarianism in human society. it does, however, effectively explain the natural origins of our ability to think about equality, fairness and act accordingly, the survival success of our species was in large part driven by our ability to cooperate, share, and work together towards procurement of resources. yes, we had then and now also violent tendencies towards competing populations, but..

  • @aTrueHybrid

    So tell us more about the fire-breathing monster, magical trees, cursed fruits, and zombie march your "Holy Book" talks about.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    So you are running away. What a coward.

    Your "counter" doesn't hold up: God said that while Israelites had to be treated fairly well as slaves, outsiders did not have to be: God gave the Israelites the thumbs up to own other people as their personal property, for life, even willing them to children as property; and God also said that it was okay to beat such a foreign slave with a rod, and even kill him as a result, as long as the slave didn't die immediately.

  • @aTrueHybrid Once again, way to dodge the question.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    You are quoting about HEBREW slaves. Are you so ignorant of your own "Holy Book" as to not know that your God is horribly prejudiced? God gives different rules for what His "chosen people" can to other "chosen people" on the one hand, and to outsiders on the other.

    Nothing like haveing God stamp his approval on treating outsiders as inferiors.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    2 of 2

    Picking up immediately after the last word in my last post ...

    You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.’”

    (Leviticus 25:1-2, 44-46)

  • @aTrueHybrid

    As for the other points I made about slavery in the Bible, I will have to split up the quote across two posts.

    1 of 2

    The Lord said to Moses on Mount Sinai, “speak to the Israelites and say to them: … ‘your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    Concerning God condoning the beating of slaves with rods, even to the point of their dieing from the beating ...

    “The LORD said to Moses: Thus you shall say to the Israelites: ‘… When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment: for the slave is the owner’s property.’”

    (Exodus 20:22, 21:20-21. NRSV)

  • @aTrueHybrid

    Sure can, and I will quote them in my next reply.

    In this one, I will just point out that you are either SELECTIVELY QUOTING from the Bible (a lowlife, dishonest tactic to avoid the truth of the horrible things that Bible actually say) or are IGNORANT of what the Bible says, in which case, again, an atheist knows more about the Bible that a Bible -believer does.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    So RAPE is not a major offense in the BIble. A man just has to marry the victim he rapes and pay her father some money.

    But if a gay man has consensual sex with another gay man, they must both be killed.

    Thus, your "Holy Book" holds consensual sex between males to be vastly more immoral than RAPING a woman.

    The Bible is very anti-female, and otherwise immoral.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    Yep, so what?

    Fact remains that according to the Bible, if a man RAPED a woman, he merely had to marry her and pay her father some money for the RAPE ...

    But if a man had consentual sex with another man, they MUST BOTH BE KILLED.

    Your God (were He real) would be horribly immoral.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    Providing links is not supporting your position.

    If YOU have evidence that YOU claim supports YOUR position, then it is YOUR responsibility to got track down YOUR evidence and post it here, and then defend it.

  • @aTrueHybrid Just I the reply I expected to get. Way to dodge the question.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    I have laid out a little, but I'll let Richard Dawkins go into more detail

    "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all of fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

    Yep, that's all there in teh Bible.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    Your God, in the Old Testament, says that raping a woman is a minor offense compared to sex between to consenting adult males.

    If a man rapes a woman, he merely has to marry her and pay her father some money for the rape.

    If a man lies with another man as one would a woman - even if both men constent - then they must both be killed.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    So tell us some about the magical trees, cursed fruit, talking donkey, fire-breathing monster, and zombia march on a major city that your "Holy Book" talks about.

    The Bible is ancient mythology, written by scientifically ignorant, and vastly superstitious, men.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    Actually, if you take Scripture seriously, you would know that it is okay to own other people as your slave, as is owning them for life, and even passing them down to your children as property; as is beating your slaves with a rod as long as they live a couple days before dieing from the beating.

    I could go on.

    Your "Holy Book" is one of the most immoral pieces of ancient mythology ever written.

  • @aTrueHybrid

    Oh fun, here we go again!

    One sect of Christianity claiming that another sect of Christianity is not "true".

  • Ask your math teacher if I can come to his class and debate him about evolution in front of the class. Or in front of the whole school

    See if he is willing to put his money where his (ignorant) mouth is.

  • @aTrueHybrid Show me one shread of evidence that Jesus even existed before you start rambling on about his followers.

  • @aTrueHybrid Tell that to all the Roman Catholics, who i'm sure would say otherwise. What do I care about a book written two thousand years ago.