Hi. Wond the coil and have the JT working. I could use a hand on the tower. Been having a problem finding the info on the EF. Could you give a run down of the construction and connection of the tower, or make a vid. More so on the constution. That would help so much.
@powermaks ------If you had enough winding on the secondary it probably would. The nice thing is that the coil is tuneable and other FL drivers are not.
@powermaks ------The amp draw is hard to measure on this because the "excited" energy field messes with the meters. I don't remember what this was drawing but the transistor was not hot so it must have been under a few hundred mA . Probably less than a hundred.
@Lidmotor - exactly what's the no. of turns for the trigger/pri & sec. (how many hundreds) ur coils are? i tried this but with a fixed ferrite rod (antenna rod) with 500 turns for the secondary & the trigger/pri. coil on the side just like yours but could only lite a LED dimly of the secondary. when i transferred the trigger/primary on top of the secondary, i managed to get 120VAC off the secondary with a 1.5V AA input. i want to step the Vout to at least 375V to use for CFL. Any suggestions?
@winn1971 ---I don't remember how many turns I put on that. This is really a study in transformer design. There is lots and lots of info on how these work and the "turns ratio" formulas to get the voltage that you want. Just Google "transformer designs". You will need to add many more turns to get the higher voltage. Remember that you trade amperage for the voltage though. It is going to take the jucie out of that AA pretty fast to light up a CFL. I found that out the hard way.
@Lidmotor thanks Lid for the prompt heads up. will pwm make a difference so extend the life of the 1.5V source? this is d nxt plan anyway as what u did in ur other iterations of d jt circuit. also, why is it the mor exprerimenters prefer toroid vs d rod? any specific reason? i find d rod easier to wind & is actually more available from wer i am. toroids r hard to come by, except d really small ones from pc psu. thanks again.
Stephan---OK I will try that. I have already noticed a permanent magnet's affect on other inductor projects but I will see what happens here also. Thanks
Jeanna---If you mean does Dr. Stiffler's device transmit energy wirelessly the answer is yes --but only short distance. It can also transmit with just one wire, though, and that is the method that I find most interesting. In one experiment I ran a thin single strand of magnet wire down a hall, around a corner and into another room.and lit up a 27 led panel. He is currently using the ground circuit in his lab as the one wire. It is a facinating study when you get a chance.
Bill---This actually was the result of a failure. I was trying to make a straight coil instead of a toroid to light a CFL. "Kick-Bak" did it using a coil out of a small AC induction motor. I wound this in a hurry to see if one could be hand wound but I didn't get the cofiguration nor turns ratio right. What I discovered however, has taken me off in a whole new direction.
I just wanted to congratulate you on making your 200th YouTube video.
You are still having fun and learning at the same time. Thank you for sharing your experiences with others and looking forward to the next 200 videos! lol
Thanks-----200 and still going. If Hewey, Dewey, and Lewey could speak they would probably say to each other," Is this guy going to ever stop? How many more of us is he going to make?" lol
PodeCoet---50mA out of a 1.5 volt AA. Hummm. Let see 27 leds-- IN SERIES--that come on at about 2.5 volts each. Anybody got a calculator??? Oh and then there is that other led on the board that was on bright. Hummm.
You have 27 LEDs at full brightness for the price of one? that's fantastic!
I really liked your Fluorescent/CFL experiments too, It'd be awesome to have something like a SEC driving fluro's in a house purely from Solar Power. My workmates are running their solar charged battery banks (12V) through an inverter, and using the 230V output to drive a few fluros
Know how much those inverters draw without any load? 1.5AMPS! And each additional fluro draws 1200mA from the bank therein
PodeCoet---Yes. I have also gone the solar panel---inverter---to fluro route and that is why I am working on this. I figured that there had to be a better way to make light than that. The panels are not that efficient so making the light "producers" better might make up for it.
thats very encouraginf. the idea of filding a large ferite toroid for me is a bit of a nightmare, and i was wondering if there was a way around that, and yu have just demonstrated that there is.
if you use ferrite or iron doesit make a difference?. i mean ive used iron for joule theifs and got a different freuqency and a sine wave, and ferrite i never have got a sine wave from
rroge5 --I have had very poor luck with anything but ferrite cores on a Joule Thief circuit. The transfomer design experts could tell us all about why and how to make the best arrangement for the JT. This stuff is not new at all. People have been building transformers for a long long time. There are probably EEs that specialize in it. It is just new to me. I don't think that we are looking for a clean sine wave here but rather a sharp spike type.
Reminds me of my setup with ferrite beads in my Charging Joule theif. I found that I got the best charge with just a certain number of beads in it. Next question, where are you hooking up your extra leds at? You may want to post a diagram as many will want to duplicate this like me :-) Congrates!
Hey Mart--- I kinda had a dream about this last night and I just woke up and made it. I'm still playing around with the best way to hook it up. It is like your "Magnet on a leash" idea---there are many ways to do it. I won't put up a circuit diagram unless I'm sure that it is a good one and easy to replicate.
Hi. Wond the coil and have the JT working. I could use a hand on the tower. Been having a problem finding the info on the EF. Could you give a run down of the construction and connection of the tower, or make a vid. More so on the constution. That would help so much.
EastcoastTinker 5 months ago
wold this make a good florescent driver?
powermaks 11 months ago
@powermaks ------If you had enough winding on the secondary it probably would. The nice thing is that the coil is tuneable and other FL drivers are not.
Lidmotor 11 months ago
what is the amp draw, and i see thousands of videos about the sec circuit. can you explain?
powermaks 11 months ago
@powermaks ------The amp draw is hard to measure on this because the "excited" energy field messes with the meters. I don't remember what this was drawing but the transistor was not hot so it must have been under a few hundred mA . Probably less than a hundred.
Lidmotor 11 months ago
so... more turns in toroid the more LEDs you can light up with good brightness?
jaesungauzakim 1 year ago
@jaesungauzakim -----YES
Lidmotor 1 year ago
@Lidmotor - exactly what's the no. of turns for the trigger/pri & sec. (how many hundreds) ur coils are? i tried this but with a fixed ferrite rod (antenna rod) with 500 turns for the secondary & the trigger/pri. coil on the side just like yours but could only lite a LED dimly of the secondary. when i transferred the trigger/primary on top of the secondary, i managed to get 120VAC off the secondary with a 1.5V AA input. i want to step the Vout to at least 375V to use for CFL. Any suggestions?
winn1971 1 year ago
@winn1971 ---I don't remember how many turns I put on that. This is really a study in transformer design. There is lots and lots of info on how these work and the "turns ratio" formulas to get the voltage that you want. Just Google "transformer designs". You will need to add many more turns to get the higher voltage. Remember that you trade amperage for the voltage though. It is going to take the jucie out of that AA pretty fast to light up a CFL. I found that out the hard way.
Lidmotor 1 year ago
@Lidmotor thanks Lid for the prompt heads up. will pwm make a difference so extend the life of the 1.5V source? this is d nxt plan anyway as what u did in ur other iterations of d jt circuit. also, why is it the mor exprerimenters prefer toroid vs d rod? any specific reason? i find d rod easier to wind & is actually more available from wer i am. toroids r hard to come by, except d really small ones from pc psu. thanks again.
winn1971 1 year ago
this is what I have been preaching except at telsa coil standards, large tesla coils with taps, you'll find a lot of hot spots.
onthecuttingedge2005 2 years ago
great work lid, Can I ask a favor from you? can you help me make a inductor with 24 mh center tap. how can i post my email?
thanks
balitapc 2 years ago
balitapc----See my next video.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Awesome...and much simpler than a SEC.
stprue 2 years ago
Great work Lidmotor !
Please try to put a magnet onto the end or side of the ferrite rod and se, if it will enhance the brightness and how it will change the input power.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
overunitydotcom 2 years ago
Stephan---OK I will try that. I have already noticed a permanent magnet's affect on other inductor projects but I will see what happens here also. Thanks
Lidmotor 2 years ago
nice work!
keep 'em comin Lid!
m3sca1 2 years ago
m3sca1---Thanks. If the videos stop then it means that I completely wore out my poor little camera.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Great work lidmotor,
Is the sec electrically or radiantly connected??
thanks, jeanna
jeannacav 2 years ago
Jeanna---If you mean does Dr. Stiffler's device transmit energy wirelessly the answer is yes --but only short distance. It can also transmit with just one wire, though, and that is the method that I find most interesting. In one experiment I ran a thin single strand of magnet wire down a hall, around a corner and into another room.and lit up a 27 led panel. He is currently using the ground circuit in his lab as the one wire. It is a facinating study when you get a chance.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
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jeannacav 2 years ago
Lidmotor:
Wow man, you are having one success after another over there. Excellent idea. Keep up your excellent work.
Bill
Pirate88179 2 years ago
Bill---This actually was the result of a failure. I was trying to make a straight coil instead of a toroid to light a CFL. "Kick-Bak" did it using a coil out of a small AC induction motor. I wound this in a hurry to see if one could be hand wound but I didn't get the cofiguration nor turns ratio right. What I discovered however, has taken me off in a whole new direction.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Lid:
Most of the best discoveries in history happened the same way. You are in good company.
Bill
Pirate88179 2 years ago
Great !! Has alway's enjoyed watching. and learning. thank's for sharing Tec
tectalabyss 2 years ago
Hey Lidmotor,
I just wanted to congratulate you on making your 200th YouTube video.
You are still having fun and learning at the same time. Thank you for sharing your experiences with others and looking forward to the next 200 videos! lol
Drevtoobe 2 years ago
Thanks-----200 and still going. If Hewey, Dewey, and Lewey could speak they would probably say to each other," Is this guy going to ever stop? How many more of us is he going to make?" lol
Lidmotor 2 years ago
tubtemp---Thanks. This was a good start. I may rework the thing and try different winding ratios.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Very impressive! What's the current consumption like in driving all those LEDs off your modded joule thief?
PodeCoet 2 years ago
PodeCoet---50mA out of a 1.5 volt AA. Hummm. Let see 27 leds-- IN SERIES--that come on at about 2.5 volts each. Anybody got a calculator??? Oh and then there is that other led on the board that was on bright. Hummm.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
@Lidmotor
You have 27 LEDs at full brightness for the price of one? that's fantastic!
I really liked your Fluorescent/CFL experiments too, It'd be awesome to have something like a SEC driving fluro's in a house purely from Solar Power. My workmates are running their solar charged battery banks (12V) through an inverter, and using the 230V output to drive a few fluros
Know how much those inverters draw without any load? 1.5AMPS! And each additional fluro draws 1200mA from the bank therein
PodeCoet 2 years ago
PodeCoet---Yes. I have also gone the solar panel---inverter---to fluro route and that is why I am working on this. I figured that there had to be a better way to make light than that. The panels are not that efficient so making the light "producers" better might make up for it.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
thats very encouraginf. the idea of filding a large ferite toroid for me is a bit of a nightmare, and i was wondering if there was a way around that, and yu have just demonstrated that there is.
thanks for posting this great vid.
harpbloke 2 years ago
harpbloke----This worked but the ferrite toroid core still works really good in a Joule Thief circuit.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
more ferrite means more inductance which means more power is discharged though the led. i think
rroge5 2 years ago
rroge5--Yes. I think that you are right.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
if you use ferrite or iron doesit make a difference?. i mean ive used iron for joule theifs and got a different freuqency and a sine wave, and ferrite i never have got a sine wave from
rroge5 2 years ago
rroge5 --I have had very poor luck with anything but ferrite cores on a Joule Thief circuit. The transfomer design experts could tell us all about why and how to make the best arrangement for the JT. This stuff is not new at all. People have been building transformers for a long long time. There are probably EEs that specialize in it. It is just new to me. I don't think that we are looking for a clean sine wave here but rather a sharp spike type.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
perhaps iron cores require a big number of turns to make enough inductance (enuogh electromagnetic feild being contained)
rroge5 2 years ago
Great idea Lidmotor.
GBluer 2 years ago
@GBluer ----Thanks. I don't know why we didn't do this a long time ago. I was very easy and really helped.
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Reminds me of my setup with ferrite beads in my Charging Joule theif. I found that I got the best charge with just a certain number of beads in it. Next question, where are you hooking up your extra leds at? You may want to post a diagram as many will want to duplicate this like me :-) Congrates!
marthale7 2 years ago
Hey Mart--- I kinda had a dream about this last night and I just woke up and made it. I'm still playing around with the best way to hook it up. It is like your "Magnet on a leash" idea---there are many ways to do it. I won't put up a circuit diagram unless I'm sure that it is a good one and easy to replicate.
Lidmotor 2 years ago