Mit der Einstellung 1.280 x 720 und 60 Bildern pro Sekunde liefert sie die beste Aufnahme ruckelfrei. Der einzige Hasenfuß an der Kamera ist die fehlende LED-Beleuchtung für Foto oder Nachtaufnahmen.
Ive seen countless vids of the Zi8. Reviews from the States up to Germany and none of them have the Zi8 looking as bad as this. Like some other posters have remarked, this is quite Odd to say the least. It looks like you have Parkinsons.
Dude, something is horrible wrong with your uploading. I own both the zi6 and zi8, and my footage looks nothing like this. You may want to make sure you uploaded the firmware on the zi8 also, as this could be the issue. Sony bloggie sucks compared to the zi8. As I said, I use the zi8 daily, and none of my footage looks like this.. Odd.
I didn't realize how much software rendering was included in digital recordings. It seems that the camera isn't actually recording what it's receiving from the lense, but rather "stitching" the frames together in order to allow the same data to exist from one frame to another, in order to save on processing power(price, battery) and data size. Probably because they don't have an efficient data type for filing the information quickly. So I suppose none of it is really progressive scan.
i hate kodak. ive got 4 cameras from them and they all broke withing the first month. one of them was broken before i even took it out of the box. you might as well be trying to use a camera made from legos. kodak sucks.
Bogus BS - My results with the Kodak Zi8 does not even come close to what supposably is being reviewed here. But - we're all entilted to our opinions! The bottom line - check out the Zi8 for yourself - chocolote - vanilla - choose!
Just in case people are "Judging the Zi8" GREY or Hazzy image in the beginning of this video its not more or less than the Sony its just that the Sony has a bit of a "Built In lens shade" because the sony's lens is "Recessed" inwards on the body of the video camera. The Kodak lens is right out there in the front of the camera so its going to get a lot of "Lens Flare" Personally this whole "Image Stabilization" is a joke why dont people just learn to hold the cam "STEADY" its not that hard..
Sony's lens appears to be deeper, better protected from sunlight than the Kodak (the Sony is a bigger camera, it's a bag camera not really a pocket camera).
IS works only in 720p/30 mode for both cameras (but sucks up battery power).
I just want to make sure we are comparing apples to apples because I am really torn between these two models.
(I also loathe Sony's proprietary MS media and really don't want to have to go back to it after abandoning it once before, but that shouldn't make or break my decision.) One review on Amazon says the audio on the bloggie is mono, can you confirm this? IDK, torn.
I couldn't help but notice that the Zi8 seemed to be angled higher while you were shooting your video (running 6 inches to 3 feet above the Sony's image). It seems that your getting more direct sunlight and glare in the Zi8, explaining the washed out image. When I see you pan the grass blades the res. of the Sony seems lower- and according to Amazon Sony's SteadyShot doesn't work in 1080. It looksas if the Sony is @ 720p and Kodak is @1080p? Could you have been mistaken on the image setting?
This guy is RIGHT ON. I cannot vouch for the Sony but I had the zi8 for 8 days now and just came off a 7 day cruise, where I recorded up to 2 hrs of combined footage..
I noticed no matter how hard I tried to keep the camera still every picture still wobbled and forget even attempting to zoom.. also The colors look dead on to my images.. a lil muted.. Im still within my 14 days return and I will now try Sony ... keep u posted..
I love the net, right when u think u read a review to buy something u read five others to get you off it.. F sony Im going for the Kodak Playsport.. looks like they figured out the stabilization and made it waterproof!
I can't believe u bought the kodak Zi8. The Zi8 is a crapgadget and a total waste of money if u ask me. The bloggie is a better camcorder then the kodak. But if you really want to make 1080p video with optical zoom and stabilization save a little more cash for a decent camcorder.
i like the option of connecting an external mic to the camera that would be the only reason that i would choose the Kodak. It visually looks better to me as well. I'm impressed with the Sony's zoom I may get one. With both camera the image stabilization really sucks if you don't want the blur i suggest using a mono pod or tri pod.
Mount them on something and do not point them the same direction as the sun. I have used the Zi6 and Zi8 and just like any other camera there are limitations. But if you place them in the right setting they work quite well.
Will be nice when these small form factor cams get exposure control, WB and manual focus.
The Bloggie MHS- CM5 has 5x optical zoom (with 20x digital), as opposed to the Zi8, which as only 4x digital, so you probably used the optical. This (the CM5) is something I'm definitely interested in buying.
Thanks for posting this! I m o, this video is a great example of how NOT to use these pocket camcorders. It seems that the best footage I've seen of these, is when they are stabilized. Although it would be nice to use them handheld w/o video issues, I've learned over the years to shoot to the cameras' strengths ONLY. Put these on tripods, for example, and it's a whole different image image quality. Obviously these are not the cameras to use for fast-motion hand-held shooting.
I hear ya, andwill say theseare what we purchased, and compare to, unless the company offers them to us to compare against. It be best to compare 4x dig to 4x dig,
one test will win others over to the Kodak is try filming at a low level and seeyour Auto focusgo south., italready did here, and it as well shown rolling shutter more.
I have to say Polaroid or even DXG or better yet Digilife, that iswhatthe model looks like LOL
At times the Zi8 looks better. I don't think the beginning of this video is a fair test by pointing the cameras toward the sun. Good side by side but not a fair test in my opinion.
Thank you so much for uploading this. The shaking on the Zi8 is pretty annoying. Though I think the Zi8 picked up the blacks a bit better like the definition of the grass. Other than that the Sony seemed better than the Kodack.
Hmm, interesting. My zi8 has never looked that bad, might want to take it back. LOL
BronzeProductions 1 month ago
mmmm thats weird....
spikeman316 7 months ago
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Mit der Einstellung 1.280 x 720 und 60 Bildern pro Sekunde liefert sie die beste Aufnahme ruckelfrei. Der einzige Hasenfuß an der Kamera ist die fehlende LED-Beleuchtung für Foto oder Nachtaufnahmen.
FullSpeed321 9 months ago
Wrong Titles. The zi8 is on the left. See this youtube.com/watch?v=k8Kq0HaVUlE&feature=related
rober1967 11 months ago 3
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rober1967 11 months ago
Ive seen countless vids of the Zi8. Reviews from the States up to Germany and none of them have the Zi8 looking as bad as this. Like some other posters have remarked, this is quite Odd to say the least. It looks like you have Parkinsons.
Strigoimuzik 1 year ago
fake
811WOLF 1 year ago 6
I have the new Sony bloggie. I wish I'd seen your video before I bought it. I'm happy with it and your video shows me why. Thanks
rollofnickles 1 year ago
Can the output of the Sony be edited easily in iMovie and Final Cut Express?
iftibashir 1 year ago
Thanks!
lilyseymour 1 year ago
Dude, something is horrible wrong with your uploading. I own both the zi6 and zi8, and my footage looks nothing like this. You may want to make sure you uploaded the firmware on the zi8 also, as this could be the issue. Sony bloggie sucks compared to the zi8. As I said, I use the zi8 daily, and none of my footage looks like this.. Odd.
maple2609 1 year ago
@maple2609 Cm5 looks better in real life too
NinjaAgentGeorge 1 year ago
Thanks for this comparo.. Deff going with the Sony!!
BadMayh3m 1 year ago
Stible lization 8^)
Shiznaft1 1 year ago
Sonys quality is better when not slowed down
ninjafulchicken 1 year ago
what "pitcher" are you talking about
deicide42 1 year ago
im sold!!!! I bought the Sony last week!
wandesworld 1 year ago
@wandesworld how do you like your sony i am thinking of buying one
tylertyler82 1 year ago
@tylertyler82 love it to bits!!!
wandesworld 1 year ago
FLip Mino better than Both!
Ashterrs 1 year ago
@Ashterrs haha nooo..... actually quite the opposite bud :)
pnoyonfya 1 year ago
I didn't realize how much software rendering was included in digital recordings. It seems that the camera isn't actually recording what it's receiving from the lense, but rather "stitching" the frames together in order to allow the same data to exist from one frame to another, in order to save on processing power(price, battery) and data size. Probably because they don't have an efficient data type for filing the information quickly. So I suppose none of it is really progressive scan.
superearthbender 1 year ago
Fake
OfficialJDRecords 1 year ago
''I'm not sured''
RandomlySnapped 1 year ago
i hate kodak. ive got 4 cameras from them and they all broke withing the first month. one of them was broken before i even took it out of the box. you might as well be trying to use a camera made from legos. kodak sucks.
rawwrxlizz 1 year ago
they look the same, except for the fact that the color on the sony is 10x better
888pineapple888 1 year ago
Sony sucks
KatiushaVN4 1 year ago
@KatiushaVN4 wow you're so right because the zi8 totally didn't look faded.... i totally agree with you XP
pnoyonfya 1 year ago
Brian. Great review , very well tested. Keep up the good work-Michael.
floridaparkhomes 1 year ago
little bit slower to Ketchup
TheLastHottie 1 year ago
sony is better
pcgamerguy1234 1 year ago 24
The "washed out" is lens flare.
oxh973 1 year ago
Can I use an external "lapel" microphone with the Bloggie?
ssssdls 1 year ago
how can it be opinion based? If the colour is better it is better., That's a real concept of camera ability.
DLPBurke 1 year ago
Bogus BS - My results with the Kodak Zi8 does not even come close to what supposably is being reviewed here. But - we're all entilted to our opinions! The bottom line - check out the Zi8 for yourself - chocolote - vanilla - choose!
trojanfloat 1 year ago
i have the zi8 and it makes better vids then in your compare-video ..
you must done something wrong ... :-/
konzi247 1 year ago 3
Due to the user guide, the image stabelisation only work on 720p 30fps an the VGA resolution.
In 1080p its not working.
From the userguide:
• The camera shake reduction function works only in [640 × 480 30P] or [1280 × 720 30P] mode.
DMJ1727 1 year ago
bloggie's way better
TheStunningThing 1 year ago
How its better for You ??
MrAVEX2010 1 year ago
good video -- thanks for making it. i was actually leaning towards the kodak before watching this.
djdishevel 1 year ago
i bet your left handed so your right hand just shakes more haha
LBProductions511 1 year ago
Just in case people are "Judging the Zi8" GREY or Hazzy image in the beginning of this video its not more or less than the Sony its just that the Sony has a bit of a "Built In lens shade" because the sony's lens is "Recessed" inwards on the body of the video camera. The Kodak lens is right out there in the front of the camera so its going to get a lot of "Lens Flare" Personally this whole "Image Stabilization" is a joke why dont people just learn to hold the cam "STEADY" its not that hard..
rmstudio 1 year ago
make sony bloggie vs flip ultra
ThoseWhereAtPlay 1 year ago
stabilization, say it with me now, [stey-buh-li-zey-shuhn]
potterbrain66 1 year ago
What PC spec do I need to run the software and upload comfortably thanks.
GlennLane1 1 year ago
Sony's color is too warm and oversaturated.
Sony's lens appears to be deeper, better protected from sunlight than the Kodak (the Sony is a bigger camera, it's a bag camera not really a pocket camera).
IS works only in 720p/30 mode for both cameras (but sucks up battery power).
Sony is much worse in low light.
sinker442 1 year ago
does cm5 work with imovie 09
awsomernes 1 year ago
I've been leaning towards the CM5 as it looks like a neat little device. Except for the crappy auto focus on it in lower light settings
Anybody know if there's an option to disable auto focus in favor of fixed focus?
retrofuturex 1 year ago
dude you are killing me, but i like the reviews.
say IT: stable liz ation
NOT: stible lazation
darrenzimm 1 year ago 28
@darrenzimm omg I was going to put ''ffs its pronounced stay-bil not sti-bil''
Good vid anyway, ty
aesuss 1 year ago
I just want to make sure we are comparing apples to apples because I am really torn between these two models.
(I also loathe Sony's proprietary MS media and really don't want to have to go back to it after abandoning it once before, but that shouldn't make or break my decision.) One review on Amazon says the audio on the bloggie is mono, can you confirm this? IDK, torn.
mariettabuzz 1 year ago
I couldn't help but notice that the Zi8 seemed to be angled higher while you were shooting your video (running 6 inches to 3 feet above the Sony's image). It seems that your getting more direct sunlight and glare in the Zi8, explaining the washed out image. When I see you pan the grass blades the res. of the Sony seems lower- and according to Amazon Sony's SteadyShot doesn't work in 1080. It looksas if the Sony is @ 720p and Kodak is @1080p? Could you have been mistaken on the image setting?
mariettabuzz 1 year ago
Kodak Zx3 Playsport is a winner for April forget sony's pocket crap
ScottLewisNJ 1 year ago
This guy is RIGHT ON. I cannot vouch for the Sony but I had the zi8 for 8 days now and just came off a 7 day cruise, where I recorded up to 2 hrs of combined footage..
I noticed no matter how hard I tried to keep the camera still every picture still wobbled and forget even attempting to zoom.. also The colors look dead on to my images.. a lil muted.. Im still within my 14 days return and I will now try Sony ... keep u posted..
tgtmusic 1 year ago
I love the net, right when u think u read a review to buy something u read five others to get you off it.. F sony Im going for the Kodak Playsport.. looks like they figured out the stabilization and made it waterproof!
tgtmusic 1 year ago
thanks
joni909 1 year ago
Dude don't mind all these people thinking your videos are fake. I totally believe you. Nice videos.
austinwangg 1 year ago
Strange - my experience with the Kodak Zi8 looks nothing like what your are showing. I doubt the honesty of your review. Do you work for Sony?
ShotCopy 1 year ago
No he doesn't. And he buys all his cameras. Only a reviewer.
austinwangg 1 year ago
which is the best one please tell me. I need to buy one. But I want the best one
thisismeginger 1 year ago
Sony.
austinwangg 1 year ago
@thisismeginger get the zi8 forget the sony
skjoyner 1 year ago
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um..u said u were holding both of them at the same time?well, why is kodak one moving a lot more and faster than the other one??
seriously, dont post crap
paupels 2 years ago
FAKE....!!!!!
the Zi8 has a better cpu....better CMOS....
SO IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE THEN DO IT FOR REAL AND STOP POSTING CRAP VIDEOS
antcreativegroup 2 years ago
chemtrails in the sky @ 0:55
SileDevil 2 years ago
I think it,s fake video. kodak zi8 have stereo mic. today i purchased kodak zi8.
786420 2 years ago
Looks like the fog rolled on on the Zi8. Phoenix on the left and San Francisco on the right?
mellotrongirl 2 years ago
Ive got a pm5, whats the point of 1080p at 30fps?the quality is shit. How many lines does a camera require to be come HD?
paulkazjack 2 years ago
@paulkazjack 720,1080,180i,2k,4k
jon204 1 year ago
Saxon Band Dad uses a Zi8, check out the videos and decide.
SaxonBandDad 2 years ago
thanks for the info
manofskill 2 years ago
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FAKE
FLYBOYDUH 2 years ago
@FLYBOYDUH I agree, I own the Zi8 and WAY better quality than any bloggie or boogie.
BronzeProductions 2 years ago
I can't believe u bought the kodak Zi8. The Zi8 is a crapgadget and a total waste of money if u ask me. The bloggie is a better camcorder then the kodak. But if you really want to make 1080p video with optical zoom and stabilization save a little more cash for a decent camcorder.
GRiZLOC 2 years ago
I love sony...however this is blatently biased towards Sony.....how about do a fair review!!!!! Kodak aint nothing like that!!!!!!!!!
snooky3 2 years ago
the sony shits on it haha
KnoCantMix 2 years ago
??? do you have a VADO HD ??? It would be great to see a side-by-side comparison of those two !!!
APrintezis 2 years ago
i like the option of connecting an external mic to the camera that would be the only reason that i would choose the Kodak. It visually looks better to me as well. I'm impressed with the Sony's zoom I may get one. With both camera the image stabilization really sucks if you don't want the blur i suggest using a mono pod or tri pod.
nmosley22 2 years ago
Mount them on something and do not point them the same direction as the sun. I have used the Zi6 and Zi8 and just like any other camera there are limitations. But if you place them in the right setting they work quite well.
Will be nice when these small form factor cams get exposure control, WB and manual focus.
mgruichjr 2 years ago
can you comment on if the sony has a limitaion of recording a 29 minute file?
fishycomics 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this. I wish the Sony had a stereo mic.
rjbme 2 years ago
You should checkout the Sanyo 1010
ngvgnDOTcom 2 years ago
The Kodak is terrible :/
IzakHunt 2 years ago
The Bloggie MHS- CM5 has 5x optical zoom (with 20x digital), as opposed to the Zi8, which as only 4x digital, so you probably used the optical. This (the CM5) is something I'm definitely interested in buying.
dwalex97209 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this! I m o, this video is a great example of how NOT to use these pocket camcorders. It seems that the best footage I've seen of these, is when they are stabilized. Although it would be nice to use them handheld w/o video issues, I've learned over the years to shoot to the cameras' strengths ONLY. Put these on tripods, for example, and it's a whole different image image quality. Obviously these are not the cameras to use for fast-motion hand-held shooting.
PaulGarafola 2 years ago
I wonder why you have compared Kodak Zi8 with Sony MHS-CM5 instead of Sony MHS-PM5.
smrrjr 2 years ago
I hear ya, andwill say theseare what we purchased, and compare to, unless the company offers them to us to compare against. It be best to compare 4x dig to 4x dig,
fishycomics 2 years ago
Sony cm5 has image stabilization only in 720p 30fps. And its software digital stabilization.
razvaniciu 2 years ago
ah that is nice to know its mor like the aiptek gvs 720P 60/wvga 60 no 1080P. that makes you think if itsa true sony
fishycomics 2 years ago
if this had a mic input for stereo sound it would be the perfect camera...the search goes on..looking like the Zi8 is still in the running.
germanshepherd13 2 years ago
i agree, others will want certain features over other functions. and that is were we are deciding what we want best,
fishycomics 2 years ago
Brian.
1 you need a tripods top base to set both cams, a peice or wood or metal.
2. panning is deffently a must, and to say you slowed down.... do a slow pann, rather edit a slow pann. fast pan for demo purposes i hear ya.
3. To say Jello effect, and not sure if less, is JELLO EFFECT, we also call it ROLLING SHUTTER.
I viewed sonys page and I love to say its looks like a digilife, svp, ispan hybrid.
Will continue a lot to say.
fishycomics 2 years ago
We know to not shoot Sun in front, we do lol, Kodak is the better cam of a fixed lens, while the Sony is a Auto focus with 5x optical zoom.
It is best to compare this to the Aiptek Action HD GVS 5x optical cam,
fishycomics 2 years ago
one test will win others over to the Kodak is try filming at a low level and seeyour Auto focusgo south., italready did here, and it as well shown rolling shutter more.
I have to say Polaroid or even DXG or better yet Digilife, that iswhatthe model looks like LOL
otherwise great effort. a great job,
fishycomics 2 years ago
I lean to the Kodak, for a perfect focus shot, and its ability to capture true colors, and Auto Iso setting, and its loger power life.
I do not own thesony, I cannot comment furthe but I own theGVS and its agreat cam Optical wins hands down. prefrence, prefrencce. 5 stars...
fishycomics 2 years ago
At times the Zi8 looks better. I don't think the beginning of this video is a fair test by pointing the cameras toward the sun. Good side by side but not a fair test in my opinion.
matrixate 2 years ago
Thank you so much for uploading this. The shaking on the Zi8 is pretty annoying. Though I think the Zi8 picked up the blacks a bit better like the definition of the grass. Other than that the Sony seemed better than the Kodack.
thorthewhore 2 years ago
is this even available yet? External mic? thanks
germanshepherd13 2 years ago
great side by side comparison..thanks
germanshepherd13 2 years ago