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  • IT'S not a bomb

  • Look, guys. Tiniganko na ang mga pictures of the Glorietta blast, and some says "bomb" and "methane". Methane is explosive when in closed places (ex. put a plastic garbage inside a cabinet, then close it. Then wait for some minutes/ hours... and BOOM!). On Wikipedia: thread says: "Left unattended waste for 76 days;" ergo: Like my experiment says that "Methane explodes in closed places"; It would explode in just a few minutes or hours.

  • muntik na patay ang tito ko dyan...buti na lng hndi na sya pumpasok sa umaga....rest in peace sa mga tayo na patay jan sa incidente na yan.

  • This is so gut and soul-wrenching. I think the guy wearing a white polo that is being carried and rushed-upon by the guard is my brother. My brother died in this incident. :'(

  • hay nku buti ung glorietta 3 hindi sumabog, huhu andyan aku nung day n yan..akala ko nga lindol yun pla sumabog...huhuhu nkakatakot n..slamat tlga di sumabog ung glorietta 3...

  • It was not a damn bombing! The title of this video should be changed.

  • its a bomb....... not methane and diesel. why?

    wala ng magiinvest dito kapag nalamang bomba yun. ask pres. gloria about it.

  • what would you do if you're on her shoes?

  • I would suggest that the relatives of the victims file a class action against the management!

  • What is sad about this incident is the attempt of the glorietta management to downplay their inefficieny and negligence on safety. Whether its accidental or intentional, its the management burden!

  • * Upon testing by a major oil company, the "flash point" -- or the temperature required for the combustion of vapor from a liquid -- of the diesel fuel in the day tank was found to be normal at 76 degrees Celsius and within specification.

  • So what caused the explosion? Do you have any other theory? American, Australian and Israelist investigators all concluded that it was not a bomb!

  • if you think about it, all the foreign reports say that it was not an IED(improvised explosive devise). other causes of ignition (if Gas) still have to be established. if rdx or c4 were used, correct if wrong, it may not really leave physical evidence or fragments. my opinion...

  • so yours is pure speculation! we don't have first hand information on the evidence and facts of the incident, so what good will it do to speculate on something we're not sure about??? to spread fear and chaos???

  • I hope you will give us a better and more educational theory than what trillanes is insinuating!his is full of stupidity,BS, grandstanding and personal motives at the expense of the victims!

  • * The diesel tank suffered only "minor secondary damage" with its roof deforming and forming a weld, which is "entirely consistent with it having been caused as the result of the primary explosion," thus overpressure in the diesel tank "could not have caused the damage."

  • * Biogas could not have been present since the personnel working in the basement did not smell hydrogen sulfide, which is similar to the odor of rotten eggs, and did not experience nausea, and eye or skin irritation on or prior to the day of the blast.

    * It is unlikely that a gas explosion in the basement would have caused the severe damage observed in the loading bay area because at the time of the incident, the loading bay was open to the street.

  • * Methane, one of two components of biogas, could not have been produced since it takes microorganisms eight to 10 days to multiply to sufficient quantities. The water in the basement sump pits was discharged to the city sewers "several times a day."

    * The accumulation of biogas, which is 20-percent less dense than air, was unlikely "because it would have vented via the large open stairwell leading to the delivery bay that is open to the street."

  • Hey! vmashimaro are u a japanese? You seems to be emotional on this incident, are u a part of it? Aminin tsk!tsk!tsk! or else calm down ur ass....konero

  • mga pilipino ba kayo????....puro nman kayo inglis at pinagdidiskusyunan nyo pa ang mga bagay na iyan, anomalya ay este ano man yan insidente o aksidente, bombing man o hindi bear in mind that there are two other sides of a coin.

    hay naku din...

  • ayaw ilbas ng glorietta na bomba ang sumabog.. cnasabe nla na aksidente lng ang pagsabog para di cla masira sa mga tao.. kc kung bomba tlaga yan, it means papaty paty ang security nila.. wala ng tao na pu2nta sa knila kung gnun ang security nila..

  • Let me throw this question back at you guys... does anything and everything that EXPLODES have to be caused by a BOMB?

    We seem to forget and contnue to ignore the fact that in our country, safety can and is taken for granted.

    I go with the investigation resuslts... that this was not a bomb blast but rather an INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENT.

  • Ayala read out the assessment of Stephen Etheridge, a chartered scientist of the United Kingdom's Science Council and an expert on biogas, and Burgoynes, an international consulting firm specializing in forensic probes of fires, explosions and engineering failure.

  • addendum: people are so easily led to believe it was a bomb because the blast felt, looked like a bomb. And it is very tempting indeed to believe it was a bomb. BUT EVIDENCE shows otherwise. All these insistence that it was a bomb is based on what? circumstantial information. LPG was not the cause either. I do not need to point out results of the investigation. It is in the newspapers and news reports. so please read and understand them.

  • This is what Manila Bulletin rported on the first day

    A powerful bomb exploded at around 1:20 pm at the parking area for delivery

    vehicles near the entrance of Glorietta 2 building, shattering the mall's glass .

  • junevi2000, i appreciate your skepticism. but it goes both ways... latest EVIDENCE from explosives EXPERTS do not point to a bomb blast.

    what manila bulletin, media reports, or press releases said during the first day of the blast is subject to speculation simply because NO COULD BE SURE OF WHAT HAPPENED. in fact, the first day reports of a BOMB blast was very irresponsible as their was no certainty at that point.

    PS - no one is saying it was LPG. please do your research again.

  • Several shoppers said the blast was heard from a nearby baby store in the mall.

    The explosion ripped through the roof of the mall and damaged nearby shops. Another witness, Arel Vertucio, said the explosion was so strong that it was felt up to the third level of the mall."

    Now tell me was that LPG?

  • This was reported by abs-cbn news:

    "Philippine National Police chief Avelino Razon said the blast in the Glorietta 2 ground level at 1:30 p.m. was "probably caused by a bomb", debunking reports that an liquefied petroleum gas tank caused the blast.

    "THIS WAS A BOMB. But beyond that we can't say anything else yet because we are still investigating. What I can say is it was not LPG that caused this," Razon told reporters.

  • let's get things right... (1) it was NOT a BOMB as evidence has shown.

    now, let's get things even more right... (2) the mall management have to stop denying accountability. SHAME, SHAME ON THE AYALA management if they continue to do so.

    (3) if you guys still want to believe bomb and conspiracy theories, welcome to the world of idiots. pinapairal nyo lang ang emosyon ninyo, hindi ang utak ninyo. :)

  • A spokesman from Ayala Land says it doesn't appear the explosion emanated from any restaurants. A shaky-sounding policeman says there was a strong smell of gunpowder in the blast area, and says there was no smell of gas. An eyewitness insisting he smelled gunpowder, too, "just like New Year":

    although he insists he smelled pulbura when he went near the smoke. "para daw new year"

    Tony Velasquez pointed out that the initial smells are important in investigating the cause of blasts.

  • glorietta "bombing" talaga? alam nyo ba yan? mga experto ba kayo? pano kung mas lumalabas na industrial nga accident ito? bomb blast parin ang ididiit nyo? pano kung napatunayan na hindi naman talaga bomba to pero negligence ng mall?

    mahirap kasi sa mga pilipino, masyadong iniiral ang emotion kaysa sa isip. masyadong nagpapadala sa mga text, rumors at tsimis.

    hay naku...

  • mga pinoy tlga .... tsk tsk tsk....

  • npaka daming speculations n lumabas,andaming nasisi pero ung gas tank lang pla ung sumabog ....

  • HOY! HUWAG KANG MANAHI NG KENTO! Bomb expert ka ba?

  • Sabi nila INDUSTRIAL DEFECT daw ang dahilan kung bakit sumabog, sabi nila, sadyang binomba, sino ba may pakana nito???? nakakaawa talaga!!! daming inosenteng nadamay at binawian ng buhay!!! Putang ina ang nagpasabog nito!!! way back in 2001, Sumabog din itong Glorietta then after the few days, megamall naman sa sinehan na movie na Armagedon 2. This is horrible!!!

  • PUNYETA SI OMAR ANG MAY GAWA

  • Daming palusot aksidente raw ..C4 yan sinadya yan...kawawa ang bansang pilipinas pag hindi lumaban ang mga pinoy..

  • barbero! haha

  • bombahin nyo na rin MOA!!!!

  • BOMBAHIN NYO NALANG MALAKANYANG!

  • isa lang masasabi ko hindi bomba yung SUMABOG! engot yung pulis na nagsabi na may component ng C4 na natagpuan, katangahan para magsabi agad ng di pa sigurado.

  • this is very bad. =(

    so many innocent lives/ peoples are victims on this incident.

  • you know, it was a deviationary tactic ng government.. para ma-deviate yung attention kay GMA..

    masyado na kasi mainit yung topic about the "suhulan" ng government..

    whew.. grabe naman sila.. pati mga innocent nadamay.. tsk tsk tsk..

    better na lang to pray for all the victims of the tragedy..

  • Ituon at pag-aralan mabuti ng mga inbestigador ang mga CCTV camera,Surveillance camera,hiding and security Camera ng Makati at mga Malls,Isa ang Makati sa mga well equipped sa Camera na iyan,dyan rin naresolba ng U.K. at nahuli ang mga bombers.

  • walang iba kundi c gloria

  • that was the oplan greenhouse!

    kung hindi si trillanes ang nauna magsalita!

    malamang state of emergency na tayo!

    talagang sadyang ginawa yan dahil sa nangayayari political sa ating bansa

    kaya sa makati ginawa ang pag-atake....

    dahil sa Mayor Binay ang isa sa pinaka-matinding kalaban ng administrasyon!

    na kailanman hindi pa nila napabagsak!

  • Greenhouse? luma na yan Oplan Trillbomber na. Sino ba ang mahilig manggulo sa Makati? Hindi bat mga rebel soldiers? Sino ang nagtanim ng bomba sa Oakwood? hindi bat grupo ni trillanes?

  • Oo na! Galit ka na kay Trillanes!

  • sino ang nagbintang agad? samantalang lahat ng imbestigador ay nagkakamot pa ng ulo? Hindi bat si trillanes??? Iyon mga bombang tinanim nila sa Oakwood di pa nila sinasauli.

  • LOL. sino naman si Binay? sino ba Mayor non magkaroon ng Oakwood mutiny? Sino ba Mayor non guluhin ng RAM ang Makati at nagputukan pa? Ang Makati kasi ang Financial district ng pinas! Gustong pilayin nila ito para bumagsak ang ekonomiya!

  • Kung takot ang mga investors. bagsak ekonomiya. talsik si Gloria! Iyan ang Oplan trillbomber. Pabagsakin ang ekonomiya para bumagsak ang gobyerno ni Gloria. Maghasik ng gulo kahit madamay ang mga inosenteng tao!

  • Economic saboteur yan grupo ni Trillanes! Makati lagi puntirya niang mga grupong iyan dahil Makati ang sentro ng negosyo!

  • Bakit sa oplan greeenhouse hindi sa makati nangyari iyon mga examples ni trillanes? Pero lahat ng panggugulo sa Makati hindi bat mga rebel soldiers? Nagtanim pa ng bomba sa Oakwood!

  • State of emergency? para ano matakot ang mga investors?bumagsak ang negosyo? kabaligtaran sinasabi ni trillanes, iyon lang mga walang alam sa negosyo at ekonomiya ang mauuto niya!

  • Kung ito ay hindi aksidente. Malamang si trillanes ang utak nito!

  • malabo ang angulo mo.

  • malabo? mas malabo ang sa idolo mo na si trillanes! Eh mag-aakusa siya samantalang siya ang nagtanim ng mga bomba noon 2003! Nakalimutan mo na ano? kaya ginawa mo pang idolo. LOL

  • I think bombers use approximately 10-15 lbs. of C-4...

  • " Tricks and treachery are the practice of fools who have no brains." Qoute from : Benjamin Franklin

  • Filipinos worldwide strongly condemn this form of lawlessness. All efforts must be exerted to unmask the criminals on their cowardice. Their behavior is a proof of their weakness. We deeply sympatize to all the families of all victims and assure them them that somewhere among the great Filipino race will rise brilliant and galant men who will put justice on these devils from their unjustified murder of the innocent. Use our pen, not our sword. Their concience will torture them forever.

  • Sa mga sulsol at mga kampon ng mga pulitikong may mga pansariling motibo, huwag nio naman sanang gamitin itong insidenteng ito para isulong ang inyong maiitim na adhikain.

  • fuck the government!!! they are the one who did this, scare all the poor people....

  • PUT A BOMB INSIDE THE ROOM OF ALL CORRUPT EMPLOYEES IN THE GOVERNMENT!!! why kill innocent people?... I love philippines, i love the place... it's just that the fucking government is stealing some money from the fund instead giving food to poor people or fix the streets... if the government is not stealing money, they can put more schools and bring the children to study not inhaling solvents (sticky rugby for the shoes etc...) god! please help...

  • i don't know why are they doing this... i just wish that the spanish or americans were here so we have a better economy ... i hate the government... how come the terrorist never put a bomb under the chairs of the senators or "ALL THE CORRUPT IN THE PHILIPPINE GOVERNMENT"...

  • corruption started during the spanish occupation because of the uneducated spaniards going into the country and taking advantage.

  • What is shocking is that this fellow taking the video did nothing to help.

    Others were carrying unconscious victim while he prefers talking to his colleague, take video recording, without offering any help.

    At least one of them could have given a helping hand.

  • I'm just glad I'm not a channeler! Just as I thought there's really something happened that day (friday 1:00 and we don't have a class that time...) As I was going home I've seen 5 helichoppers going to north I even thought there was a war but..... Not.... A tragedy....

  • pray for souls of those innocent men who died because of our government officials' selfish goals.

  • PNP Bomb Chemist found some traces of RDX, a main substance component of C4. RDX is a controlled subtance. This means only the military has it. Both the Abu SG and CPP-NPA denied the blast. Arroyo and the Military should be investigated by PNP or NBI.

  • you can also add trillanes. yon mga bomba na kinabit nila non sa oakwood unaccounted pa. siya pati unang nag-akusa,para siguro di mahalata na siya umutot! mag-iisip ka bago mag-akusa, Sulsol!

  • C4 in a CR-V to take out some restos? Swanky. I didn't know terrorists were into wasting expensive luxury SUVs and hard-to-obtain military explosives on structurally noncritical targets without claiming credit.

  • 'wag tayo kagad manisi. i salute GMA dahil sa dinami rami ng nangyayari, she still can survive. this is the time for us to unite. don't look at this problem politically..it's everyone's problem.

  • hay naku... kaya hindi ako naniniwala sa mga bayani...kung nagpasakop na lng tayo sa mga kano o kaya sa mga sakang...mas maganda ang naging kinabukasan ng pinas...

  • Pakana na naman ni Gloria yan. para ma-devert yung issue nia about sa impeachment. hay sus! lagi na lang ganyan kapag sa gobyerno ang issue.. may nangyayaring sakuna.

  • it was found out c4 explosive was used. abu sayyaf still relies on old fashioned tnt. so who has the capability to launch somthing that big? C gloria macapal lang yan

  • actually.. according to the latest news.. "tnt" ang ginamit!

    about 50 kilos ang ginamit..

    may grupo na na umaako pero di pa kumpirmado..

  • c4 isn't actually a modern bomb, it was used way back...

  • totoo yan...diversion tactics yan...anyways, yung mga tao around the area parang nakatayo lang...i guess people will react in different ways and a person's character sometimes can be seen sa mga ganitong situation...

  • diversionary tactics of GMA(gloria), galing! divert the people and media about the money given to the gov. officials and the NBN/ZTE scandal...

    hay naku! sana wag na maulit, rami civilian nadadamay, buhay ang nawawala...

  • yes correct

  • Concerned citizen? Haha no.

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