How do you get to be "nearly 60" and look such a mess, poverty stricken or not. The fact is that no "artist" of the Moulin Rouge was ever anything but a tramp and those who frequented it were depraved misfits, despised by proper French society. Toulouse-Lautrec was a miserable wretch too and not much of a painter if you ask me.
Film de valeur historique. La goulue créatrice du "French-Cancan" au Moulin-Rouge, mondialement connue grâce à Toulouse Lautrec. Apparemment elle a finie dans la misère. Dommage qu’il n’y avait pas encore le son à l’époque de l’enregistrement de ce film.
@1610Gerard - J'ai fait une petite vidéo de la Goulue - - il ya différents bits de film de son sujet - et fini avec une photo de son vendant des allumettes tout près de Moulin Rouge où elle était si célèbre - et tandis que je mets tout ce film ensemble, je voulais d'avoir les lèvres à quelqu'un de lire ce que dit Louise Weber à partir du haut de ses étapes caravane
hi amolinag - sí, es uno, la mayoría de uno de esos cuentos aleccionadores - los puntos de alta (había una casa grande y transporte) y luego bajas como (ella vivía en la miseria en una caravana) - pero lo hizo vivir plenamente la vida! gracias por tu comentario, lo mejor, nick
very sad for such artists to have been so marginalized - and that such a great artist should have ended her days in that shabby caravan - and such an iconic figure in lautrec's paintings! i have always loved the poster for le moulin rouge - and had a copy when i lived in london. au revoir, malheureusement, j'ecris une mauvaise francaise - as you can see. best, nick
@tousamis - yes, there's a photo i have of her in her carriage outside this rather larger house on the Champs Elysées - and to end selling cigarettes in the street round the corner from le moulin rouge is rather surreal
true, very surreal. Her townhouse was l'Hotel de la Paiva, 25 avenue des Champs-élysée. It would cost several millions of dollars today. Her fall reminds me of silent star Mae Murray who lost her fortune in the late 1920s and became a vagrant. Once she had villas and appartments, cars, jewels, then she had nothing. She lived for a while in a maid's room in a building, the Café des artistes, near Central Park, where she had once had a luxurious appartment.
hi tousamis. thanks for identifying la goulue's home - the riches to rags is not such an uncommon tale - i saw a US doco recently which investigated the weathy who now live on the street, in their cars, and so on i was just reading ... (cont.) ...
'The Hôtel de La Païva ("Mansion of La Païva") was built between 1856 and 1865 at 25 Avenue des Champs-Élysées by the courtesan Thérèse Lachman, better known as La Païva. She was born in modest circumstances in the Moscow ghetto, of Polish parents. By successive marriages, she became a Portuguese marchioness and a Prussian countess, this last marriage supplying the funds for the hôtel, at which she gave fabulous feasts.'
Malheureusement on reconnaît aussi, que les artistes et spécialement les danseuses (et danseurs) faisaient partie des marginaux à cette époque. Regardez son domicile minable: il est choquant qu'une telle légende de femme était obligée à vivre d'une telle manière... J'ai son poster de Toulouse Lautrec dans ma cuisine... Je n'aurais jamais cru qu'elle gisait dans la pauvreté (à mon âge...)
elle fut très riche à une époque mais dilapida sa fortune.... mais en effet, il n'y avait ni aide sociale ni retraite pour ces artistes à l'époque, leur vie était précaire à moins de faire un mariage d'argent ou de toucher un héritage. Elle me fait penser à Kiki de Montparnasse qui devint clocharde après avoir été la muse de bien des artistes. C'est triste en effet.
it IS amazing the extent of what is on youtube - came across a recording on oscar wilde reading his 'ballad of reading jail' just before he died - and lovely footage of paris in the late C10. and footage of the great russian ballet dancer - tamara karsarvina. goodness knows what else is out there!
glad you enjoyed it - as i did myself when i came across it - maybe many know about its existence but i didn't and had always been fascinated by this powerful sensual dancer and personality.
hey HelgaMaq - it's interesting seeing someone sort of stepping out of history. lip-readers would be able to say what la gouloue is saying to her woman friend and the cameraman - i just thought!
How do you get to be "nearly 60" and look such a mess, poverty stricken or not. The fact is that no "artist" of the Moulin Rouge was ever anything but a tramp and those who frequented it were depraved misfits, despised by proper French society. Toulouse-Lautrec was a miserable wretch too and not much of a painter if you ask me.
Edward245100 2 months ago
She had it once and she didn't lose it. The old gal still had style.
Fronika 2 months ago
hi Fronika - didn't she just!
nickwallacesmith 2 months ago
I hate to see anyone take advantage of an elderly lady in her poverty.
cloudberry121 5 months ago
Film de valeur historique. La goulue créatrice du "French-Cancan" au Moulin-Rouge, mondialement connue grâce à Toulouse Lautrec. Apparemment elle a finie dans la misère. Dommage qu’il n’y avait pas encore le son à l’époque de l’enregistrement de ce film.
1610Gerard 1 year ago
@1610Gerard - J'ai fait une petite vidéo de la Goulue - - il ya différents bits de film de son sujet - et fini avec une photo de son vendant des allumettes tout près de Moulin Rouge où elle était si célèbre - et tandis que je mets tout ce film ensemble, je voulais d'avoir les lèvres à quelqu'un de lire ce que dit Louise Weber à partir du haut de ses étapes caravane
nickwallacesmith 1 year ago
Interesante la vida de esta mujer, tenia fama y fortuna, termino sus dias en la miseria.
amolinag 1 year ago
hi amolinag - sí, es uno, la mayoría de uno de esos cuentos aleccionadores - los puntos de alta (había una casa grande y transporte) y luego bajas como (ella vivía en la miseria en una caravana) - pero lo hizo vivir plenamente la vida! gracias por tu comentario, lo mejor, nick
nickwallacesmith 1 year ago
She still had her spirit : )
Chiswick2 1 year ago
hi Chiswick2 - she certainly did - she lived life without reference to what conventional society thought - takes courage!
nickwallacesmith 1 year ago
hi Memale2009
very sad for such artists to have been so marginalized - and that such a great artist should have ended her days in that shabby caravan - and such an iconic figure in lautrec's paintings! i have always loved the poster for le moulin rouge - and had a copy when i lived in london. au revoir, malheureusement, j'ecris une mauvaise francaise - as you can see. best, nick
nickwallacesmith 2 years ago
@nickwallacesmith
yes, she had been very rich and had a townhouse on the Champs Elysées but she spent everything and ended her life in misery.
tousamis 2 months ago
@tousamis - yes, there's a photo i have of her in her carriage outside this rather larger house on the Champs Elysées - and to end selling cigarettes in the street round the corner from le moulin rouge is rather surreal
nickwallacesmith 2 months ago
@nickwallacesmith
true, very surreal. Her townhouse was l'Hotel de la Paiva, 25 avenue des Champs-élysée. It would cost several millions of dollars today. Her fall reminds me of silent star Mae Murray who lost her fortune in the late 1920s and became a vagrant. Once she had villas and appartments, cars, jewels, then she had nothing. She lived for a while in a maid's room in a building, the Café des artistes, near Central Park, where she had once had a luxurious appartment.
tousamis 2 months ago
hi tousamis. thanks for identifying la goulue's home - the riches to rags is not such an uncommon tale - i saw a US doco recently which investigated the weathy who now live on the street, in their cars, and so on i was just reading ... (cont.) ...
nickwallacesmith 2 months ago
hi again tousamis ... (cont)
'The Hôtel de La Païva ("Mansion of La Païva") was built between 1856 and 1865 at 25 Avenue des Champs-Élysées by the courtesan Thérèse Lachman, better known as La Païva. She was born in modest circumstances in the Moscow ghetto, of Polish parents. By successive marriages, she became a Portuguese marchioness and a Prussian countess, this last marriage supplying the funds for the hôtel, at which she gave fabulous feasts.'
nickwallacesmith 2 months ago
Malheureusement on reconnaît aussi, que les artistes et spécialement les danseuses (et danseurs) faisaient partie des marginaux à cette époque. Regardez son domicile minable: il est choquant qu'une telle légende de femme était obligée à vivre d'une telle manière... J'ai son poster de Toulouse Lautrec dans ma cuisine... Je n'aurais jamais cru qu'elle gisait dans la pauvreté (à mon âge...)
Memale2009 2 years ago
@Memale2009
elle fut très riche à une époque mais dilapida sa fortune.... mais en effet, il n'y avait ni aide sociale ni retraite pour ces artistes à l'époque, leur vie était précaire à moins de faire un mariage d'argent ou de toucher un héritage. Elle me fait penser à Kiki de Montparnasse qui devint clocharde après avoir été la muse de bien des artistes. C'est triste en effet.
tousamis 2 months ago
it IS amazing the extent of what is on youtube - came across a recording on oscar wilde reading his 'ballad of reading jail' just before he died - and lovely footage of paris in the late C10. and footage of the great russian ballet dancer - tamara karsarvina. goodness knows what else is out there!
nickwallacesmith 2 years ago 2
this wonderful footage has been posted before but i wanted to put it out there for those that haven't seen it.
nickwallacesmith 2 years ago
I knew that footage existed but here's where YouTube brings happiness to all- now I can get to see it!
PIPZZZ02 2 years ago
A wonderful surprise - many thanks for posting.
PIPZZZ02 2 years ago 2
glad you enjoyed it - as i did myself when i came across it - maybe many know about its existence but i didn't and had always been fascinated by this powerful sensual dancer and personality.
nickwallacesmith 3 years ago
Love this.
We see the great lady herself.
Not at her peak surely, but I loved seeing her anyway.
123writerlady 3 years ago 2
hey HelgaMaq - it's interesting seeing someone sort of stepping out of history. lip-readers would be able to say what la gouloue is saying to her woman friend and the cameraman - i just thought!
nickwallacesmith 3 years ago
A pity it's soundless but anyway,funny!
HelgaMaq 3 years ago