USA cant win a war becoz they dont have the ticker to finish what they start charlie kicked their sorry asses all the way back home and to this day those wannabe heros have nightmares and piss their beds in psycho wards about the fighting skills , no fear bravery and ruthlessness of the geurilla viet cong The USA threw everything at them and they just kept on coming ,& to this day USA vets strut around with medals pinned to their asses for running away lol
@Cavykarma Yeah now we should pay our enemies for destroying them. After Vietnam, doesn't look like those Vietnamese want our help does it? Why should we go back in and try to help them if they try to kill us like they are in Afghanistan?
The US Government promised millions to clean up the mess they left, and I have seen first hand that it is still there, polluting land, and has not been shifted. Yet these people are so damn nice to us all!! Its a terrible shame...China could not beat them, neither could France...Yet the US & Australian Governments didn't realise this?...Crazy.....the place is amazing now, except for the tell tale physical signs of war.
@samseal16.....It was a different time in the 60's and 70's...I remember them well. But why invade a tiny place like Vietnam...why not take on Russia? Too hard? I don't blame the countries, I blame the Governement. To invade a country to prove a point is WRONG. So many innocent lives were lost on both sides...and what was gained? Nothing, but heartache. I went to Danang in August. The US Military bases are still poisoned with Dioxin, US Governement needs to clean up...
You never hear any trouble coming out of Vietnam, it is one of the mot peaceful countries on earth. Shame on Australian and US Government for sending our boys over there..if the tables were reversed, we would also defend our land too wouldn't we? Considering how at ease the country is now, I guess the Government got it all wrong, at the cost of US, Australian and Vietnamese soldiers..For those who feel bad after being there, I embrace you and feel for you.
Vietnam is now, one of the most beautiful places to visit. The people are SO friendly, they harbour no ill feelings at all. Governments were wrong to sned our boys in to a country who DID NOT invade our country, and were of no threat to us. The Vietnamese claimed back their country, and to this day, the communist side of their country HAS NOT been a single issue. You rarely see any violence there, no protests, the children have the absolute utmost respect for parents too.
@Cavykarma true that vietnam is one of the few commie countries today that show no anger towards the west, maybe perhaps they are the first civilization to get communism right. But people in the 60s lived in a different time,the soviet expansion, red scare. The whole point to invading vietnam was to show the soviets that the US is not going to let them build up their allies and arms. A kinda of "we know what your up to" kinda deal
God, I was there so many years ago - and thought we were fighting the right fight. It was all so much bull-shit... How can one ever put it from their mind....
B4 you righties get started...I too lost a lot of friends over there. That has nothing to do with Gov'ts that lie. Look at Japan and all the bullshit they're putting out. They are no longer and never will be #1 Wealthiest nation...and they will fall from being our number one importer. Sad... as if we are not grown up enough to be given the facts. 'Dont eat the sushi' morons!!!
TRUTH: They're just coverin their asses. Meanwhile a little Japanese boy to his Mummy...'look at Gatorade in the ocean'
@x-laxbroblo440 Of course not! You take x-lax for morning snack/b4offering free blowies to ur constituency. WTF that is? heh heh fucking dilweed! Support the gov't when they lie about battle and cry anarochy when its normal gov't function and resposiblilities. No wonder you're a homophobe racist blo0w queen. Then it's off t5o meet the boyz in the park for 'free jizzie time' then off to assigned streef corners w/sign 'Friday Blowies 1/2 off w/coupon'. Recordings extra w/free hand puppets n' stuff
@Motion63O Doubt it...Teatards, Perry and most Repugs are already lining up for Armageddon and feel its there moral duty to help it along. At least it gives them something to do.
@MrClaydough the government doesn't do anything wrong, don't be such a close-minded idiot. they are doing their best and the best thing you can do if you want the country to succeed is stop questioning their decisions and let them have secrets which are important for national security
@ex-laxbro440 Psstt It's not a secret NSA admitted that 'Gulf of Tonkin' was based on lies! I suppose you believe lies on Yellow Cake was fine and dandy. Numero doso...It's our job as semi-intelligent citizens and people to question everything. Govt, science, religion and mostly ourselves. One of Dubbers [and Teatards] main 'lacking qualities' is inability to question and uninquisitiveness. Of course there are matters of security when certain protocol is necessary. Govt does no wrong! HEH HEH
You think we'd learn from our experience in Vietnam. But we haven't. Look how some blame Walter Cronkite for losing the war. Is there no level of ignorance too great for people these days?
Read Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner. Johnson and ALL his military and security advisors made the call that the war was "unwinable" the day after Tet started.
Oh and in case you're particularly ignorant (Lamestream media watchers) Cronkite was not an advisor to LBJ.
The Americans pulled out in 1973 and won every battle up till then and brought north Vietnam to its knees,They only had a minimal amount of troops in vietnam in 1975 unfortunatly every one remembers the helicopter pull out of the American embassy and base their opinions on this.
A good read is Unheralded victory by Mark W Woodruff
@MrClaydough I dont care about the stupid little debate you guys are having but i have to ask: Just how full of shit is a Christmas turkey supposed to be? Do you eat your Christmas dinner with a shit filled turkey or something?
@theboobimpactor No...but unlike right wing morons and goobers I would at least address original issues or comments b4 attacking someone. I sort of hear a cry and whimper of loneliness and loonyness all mixed together. I do realize its much easier to steer clear of said debate and issues. How else could a Pigbaugh Beckster 'Kock Bros' buttmuncher get along and steal elections? Now when ur done humping ur goat....ponder on that 4 a while....will ya?
ok all you european fags we know we pulled out of that shit hole called vietnam.also yes we are baby killers we are the bad guys and i myself am extremely proud of the bravery of our soldiers because we are all ass kickers on land air and sea USA
@legomyeggo713 I APLAUD YOUR COMMENT!!! As far as Europe, the hippies, and those on here pretending to Vietnamese, are concerned, we are horrible, dirty, cruel, racist, cowards; which if THEY were actially there, they'd be humming a different toon. WE ARE A GREAT COUNTRY! We haven't spilled NEARLY as much blood as Europe and Asia. Tell em to read OUR history if they still dont believe me. THEY'RE the REAL racists!
@aabceacba Then why did the US Navy have to lie about fake 'ghost' attack by North Vietnamese in Gulf of Tonkin? And b4 you start blathering, NSA has already supported this claim.
That war was no different than Dubbers fake Iraq war that was unnecessary. And don't give me that that 'bullshit Repug' line that we can't be supportive of our troops because of some lying cocksucker in D.C.
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY - Before accusing anybody of killing babies, ask yourself who were doing all the killings of innocent civilians, women and children included, in Hue during the Tet Offensive, the 1972 Summer Offensive, just to name a few? The hands of the VN commies are bloodied by the killings of innocent victims, more than all the casualties that the B52s inflicted during the war. As far loosing the war, do not delude yourself: Americans could not care less about winning that war.
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY Oh, so we kill innocent civilians huh? If you wanted to make your hatred publec, you did an excellent job; but listen kid, YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE! Did it ever accure to you that most of those so-called "innocent" civilians were involved in fighting against us? Next time learn BOTH sides of the story before you spread your OWN lies. Btw, I deleat everything in my inbox without reading it, so sry, hate mail won't be a problem
I was in Hué a few months ago, a local told me that the South lost because the US came too late and left too early. The South suffered a lot even after the war and alot who remember it feel let down. That's what I know, not from a book or a tv show but from personal experience.
The trucks the NVA were using to convoy troops and munitions were Fords - made in a Soviet factory designed and built by the Ford Motor Company. The fuel that powered them came from Soviet oil fields developed by American interests with close ties to the Rockefeller oil cartel. Before any military action in Viet Nam could occur the US cleared it through the UN - whose military deputy was a Soviet General....
Stop fucking saying america is terrible for killing innocent people think about commusim, COMMUNISM KILLED OVER 100 MILLION PEOPLE HOLY SHIT WAKE THE FUCK UP
@reaperflynn3 Can religion kill people? If you say yes then so can commusim and yea it does jospeh stalin was paranoid and was killing russian civilans left and right and also the russian revolution
@trevorjohn9 nigger? lol? and yre the american not me, so im not going to argue who is the uneducated...first think about what is communism, cos a political system canot kill ppl...heh..idiot..
@carbon0HUN a belief can kill people like if you were muslim and you belived you get 72 virgins when you die so you may kill yourself just for it, commusim is a belief as well not a religious but a governemtial belief it can kill people especially the fake propaganda they tell there people North Korea and China citizens probably don't even know Russia is not mainly commusinst anymore
@trevorjohn9 Muslim religion dont make ppl to kill, every religion have its own idiots, i can say it too christianity kill ppl, or capitalism...if the communism killed.
' However, in practice much of the bombing was indiscriminate, and hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed as a result. Estimates of civilian deaths vary from 100,000 to 600,000.'
"Operation Menu"
timelines web site
No doubt, YT user Tiger66261 will try to justify this atrocity like all the other US atrocities
@Guevaristas And when did I say USA never committed atrocities? I fully accept USA committed horrible atrocities in the Vietnam war.
SO perhaps you should stop dodging the problem and actually accept that the veit cong and NVA also committed atrocities instead of making up shit about other YT users.
And if you are going to talk about me, actually REPLY to me instead of attempting to avoid the arguement
the north american forces and it's allies had NO right to be in Vietnam. Yes, this atrocity may have occurred, BUT, "would it have happened" (ex-hypothesi) if the USA etc had never invaded Vietnam??? No. The US invasion created the climate for events such as this. Stop trying to exonerate the USA , they were guilty from the outset.
This argument has nothing to do with jews or nazis, that analogy is absurd.
@Guevaristas 'BUT, "would it have happened"' if the USA had never invaded"
Just look back on my analogy. Would the Nazi massacres happened if all the Jews decided to leave europe before WW2? No. But this doesn't mean the Jews are responsible for their own deaths.
Perhaps you should stop attempting to exonerate N.veitnam from the crimes they committed. There was NO REASON for the North Vietnamese to slaughter all those civilians at Hue. The US army did not force the NVA to mass murdering.
US atrocities in Vietnam war? Study the "My Lai Massacre".
'He fired at it [the baby] with a .45. He missed. We all laughed. He got up three or four feet closer and missed again. We laughed. Then he got up right on top and plugged him.'
"Peers Inquiry: Report of the Department of the Army Review of the Preliminary Investigations into the My Lai Incident".
@Guevaristas Hue massacre was much much worse than my lai. Sure the US killed a few but only calley got convicted and the rest was unfortunately not(Because they were ordered by Cally to kill them) Are you Vietnamese? We all know what VC/NVA did. They murdered 5 million people a day. After VN war, little every know is that VC/NVA used yellow rain(two times deadly than agent orange) and used it on our population, killing 5 million people. So please shut the hell up.
@Hperman09 now you shut up dickhead. The Vietnamese killed how many? You go back to the start dick, the yanks etc and new zealanders etc had no RIGHT whatsoever to even be in Vietnam. Before the US invasion democratic elections were about to be held.
It's as simple as this (simple as you are) if all those murderers had stayed away from Vietnam none of them would have been killed
@Guevaristas So you're saying its the Americans fault that the NVA/VC killed civilians intentionally?
Oh please, the fucking communists still deny massacres like the Hue to this day. At least when a part of the US army commits a massacre, the culprits are all tried in a court of law.
And actually, democratic elections were held - months before the war resumed.
'So you're saying its the Americans fault that the NVA/VC killed civilians intentionally?'
Through their actions, by invading Vietnam, the US created the situation for the slaughter and deaths of thousands in Vietnam. Obviously, if the US and the other rogue states had never invaded thousands of deaths would have been prevented. The same principle can be applied to Iraq.
Therefore the USA IS responsible for what happened at Hue.
@Guevaristas You're logic is so flawed its not funny. Using it I could say "through the jews actions in WW2, they created a situation were they lived in Nazi germany, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Jews. For that reason, it was the Jews fault so many died in Nazi germany"
All you are doing it going backwords, failing to see that it was the NVA's use of tactics that caused this. When the NVA slaughtered civilians they did it intentionally and at their own will, without any real reason.
The U.S. was INVITED by a free RVN, it didn't invade. WHo' Chi broke the treaty first by leaving NVA in the south who were supposed to go back home. I was there with the USMC and didn't kill anyone who wasn't trying to kill me. If it hadn't been for the same kind of scewed-up politicos we're still stuck with we would have defeated them - ask the NVA commanders. And of course Cronkite who saw defeat after the overwhelming victory of the Tet offensive, the pompous asshole.
lol most ppl back then called it a bad war a usless war we need to get out and let them fightit out, same shit as iraq? but we stay till the job gets done sorry to all who hate Americans all i can say is TY to all who server thair countrys and to those who are serving in iraq hope you all come back to your homes/famlys and safe and sound.
@MegaMnguyen please this war is pointless , why do you Americans want our land so much , we reaspect you and we hope you reaspect us ,too . And don`t just make a parody out of this.
@godzilla261 no cuz, china and russia were with north vietnam, they were communist. they wanted to conquer the south. then launch attacks from vietnam
@MrRosielad2 no history country? remember the part when we kicked your ass for our independence, THEN kicked your ass again in 1812? there your history, go brush your teeth
@XvChriisvX Oh yes. You must still be at school! Yes you kicked our as in Iraq as well bombing our troops cause you fooking lot are shit with crap troops who shit thereselves so bomb everything in sight. Had to call in the elite for Afgan as well cause you could not do it on your own... Go and diet lardass...pmsl..Oh retarded lardass..lol
@MrRosielad2 oh yea ok, we bomb eveerything, we kicked your asses, i mean, arses, many many times, and iraq? your asses are fighting with us so stfu, not everyone here is fat, but everyone over there has horrible teeth and has a weird voice and is ugly
@MrRosielad2 Are you mad because you realize you're just as ignorant and backwards as those rednecks in the southern United States? You have no ability to form your own opinions and use untrue stereotypes to justify your logically flawed opinion? I bet its not even your opinion, you're just as intelligent as a gnat. Your country would be ashamed of you, seeing as you lack not only intelligence but integrity. Your obsession for persecution is troubling, making whatever you say wroth dirt.
@MrRosielad2 you dont know shit about America, my friend said her dad went to England and said it looked like everyone hasnt showered in 10 days, so fuck off you dirty rat
@XvChriisvX you have no friends.. You not been out that shithole of a country then. You should try it. Open your eyes and se that there is more to the world than being fat. I have seen enough of america to realise I never want to go there again retard. Well until all the fat yanks have fucked off..pmsl
@MrRosielad2 You have seen what you wanted too, you my small minded friend. I know your type, I know enough to see the hypocrisy in throwing around stereotypes at American's because you think they're true because they're on your favorite movie or TV show. Your whiny, ill placed self righteous claims supply 100% the daily-recommended horseshit and your outdated suppositions about their detractors is apart of a obsession of persecution of the current super power. You're an inferior man... Peasant
@MrRosielad2 I'm Swedish. You assume I'm a "yank" because I disagree with you, Doesn't mean I'm American. I dislike the American government, I don't dis their entire people. I crack jokes at them, but I know they're not true.
@MrRosielad2 you dont know me, i have lots of friends, and one said that her dad says it looks like no one showers, why would i wanna go to your shit country anyway, oh bwt, gearbox011 is owning you, you know nothing if america so dont talk shit about it, even after it kicked your countries ass several times, your either a sad lil kid, or a no like fat old man so fuck off "ya bloody wanka!"
@XvChriisvX hahaaaaa, another stunning display of wit from our resident fucktard...yes, I'll be sure to do that, right after I've finished this cup of tea with the Queen and had my daily game of cricket. You are really too easy, all you can come up with is either a stereotypical remark that highlights your stupidity or a nonesensical retort. Give up.
@Slypaperclips oh stfu, your the one that started on me calling me fat, your such a fuckin hipocrite, not jus that, your also retarded, YOU give it up, YOU started it, so go cry yourself to sleep like you do every night
@XvChriisvX when in fuck's name did I call you fat?? Quote me!! I said you were thick, implying that you lack intelligence; you've proved me right with your bigotry, ignorance and vulgarity. You are so pathetic it's actually painful watching you wallow in your own stupidity in this comment section. I think I will stop now, it's a little too close to teasing a small mammal...pointless and beneath me. You can have the parting shot, you know you've lost anyway. Bye.
@Slypaperclips stfu, wtf did i lose, im jus telling off a sad lonely british cunt that has nothing better to do then to comment on here, ITS ABOUT VIETNAM DAMMIT, go drink a "cup 'o tea" im sorry i dont know your dumbass british insults, waya gonna do, call me a twat? yea stfu and go back to your gay friend Mr. ROSIEland, since thats such a straight name, the brits truly are sad, look at your pathetic comments, fuck off austin powers
@XvChriisvX lol "you know nothing if america"? Thick prick... Gearbox owns nothing apart from a dictionary....No go and finger yourself RETARD YANK...PMSL...end off!!! Oh ps, looks like slypaperclips knows your stupid as well..lol
@MrRosielad2 we actually know how to type a sentence that doesnt look like a retard typed it,and slypaperclips is another dumb dirty british cunt just like you, you dont know wtf your talking about, the only thing you say is that america is all fat which isnt true, then you try to make up shit in desperation you can hold up this pointles arguement you started, like i said, your either a sad lil kid, or a fat old man
@MrRosielad2 Aww, were the words to big for you feeble mind? You're just proving that you're uneducated, ignorant and simpleminded. You're a peasant and you will always be a peasant. You're nothing but a burden upon society, you contribute nothing. I bet you haven't even been to college. Get out of my Europe and go to Southern America, you'll fit right in with the other ignorant mouth breathing masses.
it is a was country. Never mind, i get used to, and i am proud of that. 2500 year of vietnam history, you rarely find any century without the exist of war.
@21thuy let me rephrase that: Vietnam IS a country, and I am proud of that(im sorry, the part with nevermind and i get used to doesnt really make much sense) With 2500 years of vietnamese history, you rarely find any century without the existance of war. xP
@pino505 yeah i know. im half vietnamese but i dont look asian. when people figure it out they ask me if im chinese. when i tell them im vietnamese, they friek out and say i killed a shit load of americans.
There seems to be so many experts on Nam. I am still trying to figure out my 2 year combat stay, marines 69-71. Thank god the girl I married didn't judge me for I did that enough myself. Right or Wrong good or bad. I fought for my buddies and myself and my country. I think that is the right order. This was a world mission. Remember the french were there first, I saw their officers graves with all the germans laid next to them. We fought hard as american's do.
@boots37822 Well said, and most of all "WELCOME HOME". Military Assistance Comd Advisory Team 8 2nd Area Logistical Comd. 2nd Corps Qui Nhon June 67 - June 68
Where is your evidence to undermine my arguments then?
The wives of MIA's treated like 5hit by your beloved government.
Crook Nixon taking the war into Cambodia with no mandate from the American people to do so. Countless civilians slaughtered. Remember the Max Hastings account. They're only gooks the pilot said as he executed people.
Domino theory as basis for war was balony as Reds didn't take over Indochina after u booted out.
@pobinr No evidence is needed to refute a case that hasn't even been made. What arguments have you advanced? Millions of civilians slaughtered? You produce no evidence to support such a charge so what is there to refute? It is said that you cannot prove a negative, which isn't always true but as in this case it is often logically sound. One cannot prove that millions of civilians were NOT killed except by pointing out the lack of evidence for such a charge. Provide some evidence to support it.
@sortie9 Kissinger - Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.
Kissinger - Military men as "dumb, stupid animals to be used" as pawns for foreign policy.
Eisenhour "How can we expect 'free elections' to be held in the Communist North?" Diem asked. President Dwight D. Eisenhower echoed senior U.S. experts when he wrote that, in 1954, "80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh" over Emperor Bảo.
USA great believer in democracy as long as it gets the votes it wants lOL
@HBSchool East timor - Most recently, journalist Christopher Hitchens raised questions about the role of former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in giving a green light to the invasion that has left perhaps 200,000 dead in the years since.
Relax pobinr, it's not just America, direct your energies towards the idea of government. A countries "evil" is commensurate with the size of its tax base.
@pobinr "Crook Nixon taking the war into Cambodia with no mandate from the American people to do so." -- Since when do WE, THE PEOPLE, get to agree whether we go to war or not?
9/11 was a well crafted human sacrifice ritual with masonic symbolism (twin towers=jachin&boaz) and numerology all over it! They even admit this simple fact and false flag ops are the oldest trick in the book, but you are too smart to fall for it right? So it can't be true cause you are so smart...no, we've all been had big time!
And Vietnam was yet another huge human sacrifice ritual to push more socialism in the US...International bankers want world socialism, welcome to the NWO...
Yeah pinpoint accuracy from 35000 feet onto jungle.
You want to justify illegal combat started covertly by Nixon a known crook. Uadmit the war a waste of time.As for Reds withholding the truth.
How about MIA's in Cambodia. The wives threatened if they revealed MIA in Cambidia. 1had house broken into& letters stolen. I mean who do u think really pulls the strings. Bankers& CIA slimeballs & sponsors of your corrupt politicians &people who's careers depend on wars being fought for phoney reasons.
You are the kind of nutjob that believes that 9/11 was in inside job with explosives planted in the WTT or that NASA faked the moon landing.
What's this"your corrupt politicians" crap? Lol...I suppose the politicians in Britain or what ever Eurotrash country you hail from are honest? You guys could barely take on Argentina..Lol...it was a draw since they nearly sunk your entire "navy".
To quote a great man (okay, rabbit) "What a maroon"
@pobinr You have no real arguments to debate just silly ass opinions with no evidence to support them. Your basic premise isn't supported by any facts. This mass murder you speak of. Unless one gets philosophical about all war being mass murder there is no evidence to support that charge. Maybe you can back up your charge with some real evidence? I won't hold my breath awaiting your erudite response.
WWII was a war for survival. Justifiable as self defence.
Vietnam was was not justifiable. The domino theory as justification for fighting the war was shown to be BS spread by fear mongers. Reds spread no further than S Nam when after USA booted out.
When there's $ billions to be made from wars by defence contractors that sponsor politicians then they always find reasons to fight wars.
@pobinr Who's survival? Total BS... it was what most all wars are about... power. The Brits would have survived under German rule. Only their freedom would have failed to survive. Your theories about the benign nature of communist rule could be disputed by some former South Vietnamese and a couple of million Cambodians if it weren't for the fact that they are dead, Dead as a result of the communist takeover. Grow up. Educate yourself. Then come and debate with the grownups.
@pobinr LOl...the US is blamed for mass murdering communist killers like Pol Pot..That's rich. Can't say for sure how many Cambodians were killed by bombing. Not likely too many since the communist installations were being targeted, not population centers. Carpet bombing indeed...you know nothing of the war or of military history.
I do not understand the hatred of not all but some U.K. civilians unless they have just arrived or are a 1st generation civilian. The last time the government's of the U.S. and U.K. killed one another was the American Revolution. I hate the word revolution also because it was a war of independence. The only Revolution that took place was the Boston tea party. Hate the U.S. or love it we will always back Britain and Vice Versa.
@SinerAthin thats sandy gall, he was a veteran of the belgian congo and all sorts of other conflicts. cup of tea in one hand and steel helmet in the other. "chin chin"
Sandy Gaul. One of the best war correspondents ever. 14 years later he was dodging Russian Hinds and and filming with the Mujadhein. If only we knew what we know now!
"Vietnam seeks Google, Yahoo! help to control bloggers:
AFP- Dec 2, 2008
The government will announce new rules this month, stressing that weblogs should serve as personal online diaries, not as organs to disseminate opinions about politics, religion and society, senior officials were quoted as saying... violators could face 12,000-dollar fines and up to 12 years jail."
HO CHI MINH !
IS THIS THE "FREEDOM" YOU FOUGHT FOR? THANKS A LOT, A**HOLE !!!
QLVNCH trang bị hoành tráng, cũng bày đặt tướng lĩnh này nọ nhưng là 1 lũ ăn hại hèn nhát. Không đánh nổi 1 trận nào ra hồn, chỉ giỏi Đảo chính, ở chiến trường thì chạy như Vịt. Mỹ rút quân về nước, chỉ mất có 55 ngày là lũ ô hợp này tan rã. Không biết có nên gọi là 1 quân đội không nhỉ, hay chỉ là 1 mớ rẻ rách....đố ai biết đấy. Phơi mặt lên internet cho thêm Nhục..hê..hê..
Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist founder, is a disguting TRAITOR and MURDERER. He was a member of the Third Communist International established in 1919 by Lenin. He gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos with large oil resources to Red China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
The communist authority orchestrates the agent orange lawsuit as a propaganda for money through Nguyen Trong Nhan, a former health minister who is a vice chairman of the Vietnam Association for Victims of Agent Orange, and millions of dollars of compensation for victims would end up in the pockets of corrupt high-ranking officials as in the case of PMU-18 scandal in which foreign aid was used to gamble and pay for prostitutes. (Vietnam is ranked as second most corrupt nations in Asia)
Fighting pure evil by Napalming villages, indiscriminate carpet bombing, spraying mutagenic substances,killing 2or3 million mostly civilians, committing My Lai Massacre &that's just the 1 we heard about.
These people wanted independance from brutal French colonials just like u wanted independence from us Brits.
They had far more right to fight for this than you fools going 6k miles 2 interfere in some1 else's business because of an exaggerated Red threat2 keep arms makers happy.
@pobinr You tell us to stay out of other peoples wars, well what about world war 1 when you helped belgium fight germany? Thats not staying out of other peoples wars.
@huntingboy2 Ifu think you can possibly justify killing 3 milion on basis it4their own good, then u r as barking mad as a Nazi.They just wanted independance from French &then from corrupt president theCIA installed in S.nam.Saw a N.Nam woman interviewed. She an ordinary woman who wanted to live her life in peace. Then her family were killed by some all American hero pressing the 'drop bombs' button in a B52.
After that she joined Vietcong &all she wanted2do was kill Americans. U&I would b same
@pobinr Really? How do you justify the ~55 million killed in WW II? If you are looking for "justification" in war then you are confused. It was certainly true that many Vietnamese in the South wished to be free of the communist, totalitarian state, just as the South Koreans did. In the case of the South Koreans ask them how many wish to give up their freedom and prosperity and go live in the North.
@sortie9 Suggest u read history of Vietnam over last 100 years& what lead up2that pointless war. A key point when Truman ignored Minn's request for help when he had all the Japs in Nam locked up in1945.
Minn quoted the US dec of independance to Truman as they didn't want to return to the totalitarianism of French colonial rule. Truman ignored Minn's request for independance from the French & sided with De Gaule instead to satisfy De Gaull'es bloated ego. What a disasterous mistake that was.
@pobinr Whether or not Truman ignored Minn request for aid it has little to do with the communists under Ho invading the South, especially after signing a peace treaty not 2 years earlier. French colonial rule was oppressive it's true but hardly totalitarian. That came later with the communists.
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USA cant win a war becoz they dont have the ticker to finish what they start charlie kicked their sorry asses all the way back home and to this day those wannabe heros have nightmares and piss their beds in psycho wards about the fighting skills , no fear bravery and ruthlessness of the geurilla viet cong The USA threw everything at them and they just kept on coming ,& to this day USA vets strut around with medals pinned to their asses for running away lol
WangkorWat 2 weeks ago
HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE
hmp22 1 month ago
@Cavykarma Yeah now we should pay our enemies for destroying them. After Vietnam, doesn't look like those Vietnamese want our help does it? Why should we go back in and try to help them if they try to kill us like they are in Afghanistan?
LongbowApache96 1 month ago
God Speed to all war reporters. The ITN reporter is Reginald Bosenquet
myleftearful 1 month ago
The US Government promised millions to clean up the mess they left, and I have seen first hand that it is still there, polluting land, and has not been shifted. Yet these people are so damn nice to us all!! Its a terrible shame...China could not beat them, neither could France...Yet the US & Australian Governments didn't realise this?...Crazy.....the place is amazing now, except for the tell tale physical signs of war.
Cavykarma 1 month ago
@samseal16.....It was a different time in the 60's and 70's...I remember them well. But why invade a tiny place like Vietnam...why not take on Russia? Too hard? I don't blame the countries, I blame the Governement. To invade a country to prove a point is WRONG. So many innocent lives were lost on both sides...and what was gained? Nothing, but heartache. I went to Danang in August. The US Military bases are still poisoned with Dioxin, US Governement needs to clean up...
Cavykarma 1 month ago
...and to add to the comment below...
You never hear any trouble coming out of Vietnam, it is one of the mot peaceful countries on earth. Shame on Australian and US Government for sending our boys over there..if the tables were reversed, we would also defend our land too wouldn't we? Considering how at ease the country is now, I guess the Government got it all wrong, at the cost of US, Australian and Vietnamese soldiers..For those who feel bad after being there, I embrace you and feel for you.
Cavykarma 2 months ago
Vietnam is now, one of the most beautiful places to visit. The people are SO friendly, they harbour no ill feelings at all. Governments were wrong to sned our boys in to a country who DID NOT invade our country, and were of no threat to us. The Vietnamese claimed back their country, and to this day, the communist side of their country HAS NOT been a single issue. You rarely see any violence there, no protests, the children have the absolute utmost respect for parents too.
Cavykarma 2 months ago
@Cavykarma true that vietnam is one of the few commie countries today that show no anger towards the west, maybe perhaps they are the first civilization to get communism right. But people in the 60s lived in a different time,the soviet expansion, red scare. The whole point to invading vietnam was to show the soviets that the US is not going to let them build up their allies and arms. A kinda of "we know what your up to" kinda deal
Samseal16 1 month ago
God, I was there so many years ago - and thought we were fighting the right fight. It was all so much bull-shit... How can one ever put it from their mind....
WestPacWillie 3 months ago
Mordekaiser es numero uno
HUEHUEHUEHUE
eeg10 4 months ago
hue hue hue hue hue
lokarela 5 months ago
B4 you righties get started...I too lost a lot of friends over there. That has nothing to do with Gov'ts that lie. Look at Japan and all the bullshit they're putting out. They are no longer and never will be #1 Wealthiest nation...and they will fall from being our number one importer. Sad... as if we are not grown up enough to be given the facts. 'Dont eat the sushi' morons!!!
TRUTH: They're just coverin their asses. Meanwhile a little Japanese boy to his Mummy...'look at Gatorade in the ocean'
MrClaydough 5 months ago
@MrClaydough this post didn't make any sense, you stupid faggot
laxbro440 4 months ago
@x-laxbroblo440 Of course not! You take x-lax for morning snack/b4offering free blowies to ur constituency. WTF that is? heh heh fucking dilweed! Support the gov't when they lie about battle and cry anarochy when its normal gov't function and resposiblilities. No wonder you're a homophobe racist blo0w queen. Then it's off t5o meet the boyz in the park for 'free jizzie time' then off to assigned streef corners w/sign 'Friday Blowies 1/2 off w/coupon'. Recordings extra w/free hand puppets n' stuff
MrClaydough 4 months ago
@MrClaydough Don't worry, Obama will save us.
Motion63O 4 months ago in playlist History
@Motion63O Doubt it...Teatards, Perry and most Repugs are already lining up for Armageddon and feel its there moral duty to help it along. At least it gives them something to do.
MrClaydough 4 months ago
@MrClaydough the government doesn't do anything wrong, don't be such a close-minded idiot. they are doing their best and the best thing you can do if you want the country to succeed is stop questioning their decisions and let them have secrets which are important for national security
laxbro440 3 months ago
@ex-laxbro440 Psstt It's not a secret NSA admitted that 'Gulf of Tonkin' was based on lies! I suppose you believe lies on Yellow Cake was fine and dandy. Numero doso...It's our job as semi-intelligent citizens and people to question everything. Govt, science, religion and mostly ourselves. One of Dubbers [and Teatards] main 'lacking qualities' is inability to question and uninquisitiveness. Of course there are matters of security when certain protocol is necessary. Govt does no wrong! HEH HEH
MrClaydough 3 months ago
@laxbro440 Is America communist now?
DaleDixieMafia 3 months ago
youtube debaters are shit
go find a forum to troll on newbs
Daaru23 6 months ago
my friends name is hue he is from vietnam if he saw all you guys arguing he would laugh his ass off! you all are dumbass's
TheGermanturtle 6 months ago
You think we'd learn from our experience in Vietnam. But we haven't. Look how some blame Walter Cronkite for losing the war. Is there no level of ignorance too great for people these days?
Read Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner. Johnson and ALL his military and security advisors made the call that the war was "unwinable" the day after Tet started.
Oh and in case you're particularly ignorant (Lamestream media watchers) Cronkite was not an advisor to LBJ.
StevoMacG 6 months ago
The Americans pulled out in 1973 and won every battle up till then and brought north Vietnam to its knees,They only had a minimal amount of troops in vietnam in 1975 unfortunatly every one remembers the helicopter pull out of the American embassy and base their opinions on this.
A good read is Unheralded victory by Mark W Woodruff
78paderborn 6 months ago
@78paderborn You're as full of shit as a Christmas Turkey. wager on any one of your comments Goober?
MrClaydough 5 months ago
@MrClaydough I dont care about the stupid little debate you guys are having but i have to ask: Just how full of shit is a Christmas turkey supposed to be? Do you eat your Christmas dinner with a shit filled turkey or something?
thenoobfactor 5 months ago
@theboobimpactor No...but unlike right wing morons and goobers I would at least address original issues or comments b4 attacking someone. I sort of hear a cry and whimper of loneliness and loonyness all mixed together. I do realize its much easier to steer clear of said debate and issues. How else could a Pigbaugh Beckster 'Kock Bros' buttmuncher get along and steal elections? Now when ur done humping ur goat....ponder on that 4 a while....will ya?
So NSA is wrong about Gulf of Tonkin or not?
MrClaydough 5 months ago
ok all you european fags we know we pulled out of that shit hole called vietnam.also yes we are baby killers we are the bad guys and i myself am extremely proud of the bravery of our soldiers because we are all ass kickers on land air and sea USA
europe piss off
legomyeggo713 7 months ago
@legomyeggo713 I APLAUD YOUR COMMENT!!! As far as Europe, the hippies, and those on here pretending to Vietnamese, are concerned, we are horrible, dirty, cruel, racist, cowards; which if THEY were actially there, they'd be humming a different toon. WE ARE A GREAT COUNTRY! We haven't spilled NEARLY as much blood as Europe and Asia. Tell em to read OUR history if they still dont believe me. THEY'RE the REAL racists!
aabceacba 6 months ago
@aabceacba Then why did the US Navy have to lie about fake 'ghost' attack by North Vietnamese in Gulf of Tonkin? And b4 you start blathering, NSA has already supported this claim.
That war was no different than Dubbers fake Iraq war that was unnecessary. And don't give me that that 'bullshit Repug' line that we can't be supportive of our troops because of some lying cocksucker in D.C.
Great countries don't do these things moron.
MrClaydough 5 months ago
do not trust yankee liars they spread all kinds of crap and lies to justify their atrocities eg. at My Lai
Hey Mr America, you LOST THE WAR IN VIETNAM lol, what total denialist baby killers (My Lai)
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 7 months ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY - Before accusing anybody of killing babies, ask yourself who were doing all the killings of innocent civilians, women and children included, in Hue during the Tet Offensive, the 1972 Summer Offensive, just to name a few? The hands of the VN commies are bloodied by the killings of innocent victims, more than all the casualties that the B52s inflicted during the war. As far loosing the war, do not delude yourself: Americans could not care less about winning that war.
hochiminhbulon69 7 months ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY Oh, so we kill innocent civilians huh? If you wanted to make your hatred publec, you did an excellent job; but listen kid, YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE! Did it ever accure to you that most of those so-called "innocent" civilians were involved in fighting against us? Next time learn BOTH sides of the story before you spread your OWN lies. Btw, I deleat everything in my inbox without reading it, so sry, hate mail won't be a problem
aabceacba 6 months ago
poor kid :((
mosashi200 8 months ago
I was in Hué a few months ago, a local told me that the South lost because the US came too late and left too early. The South suffered a lot even after the war and alot who remember it feel let down. That's what I know, not from a book or a tv show but from personal experience.
SuumCique 8 months ago
all the young men............thank you
jeffsdolphin 10 months ago
It must been horrible for those children in that time. It's remarkable that the childeren
of Vietnam didn't commit attacks against the US, when they were grown-up. Because they've seen horrible things outthere. Some respect for them!
periesicsd 10 months ago
2:16 min. "In God We Trust" XD
Misanthrop666screems 10 months ago
I need more war footage like this, with the actual sound and voice. Not some musical montage of war.
UnrealSlayer92 10 months ago
i'm a vietnamese
xitrumluubang 11 months ago
The trucks the NVA were using to convoy troops and munitions were Fords - made in a Soviet factory designed and built by the Ford Motor Company. The fuel that powered them came from Soviet oil fields developed by American interests with close ties to the Rockefeller oil cartel. Before any military action in Viet Nam could occur the US cleared it through the UN - whose military deputy was a Soviet General....
citizenfitz 11 months ago
this is very good footage.it shows the real face of war.as i have children of my own it realy afected me seeing the kids so upset.WOW
snipereliete 11 months ago
I guess we should have let the north take over the south, same as Korea. I bet those S. Koreans really wish Kim Jong was their leader.
macharius188 11 months ago
Stop fucking saying america is terrible for killing innocent people think about commusim, COMMUNISM KILLED OVER 100 MILLION PEOPLE HOLY SHIT WAKE THE FUCK UP
trevorjohn9 1 year ago
@trevorjohn9 either you're trolling or you don't understand what communism is.
It's a political economic and social system, it cannot kill people.
What you said is almost like saying capitalism kills people, it's ridiculous.
Eddison2333 11 months ago
@trevorjohn9 Communism doesn't kill people...Do you know what communism is?
reaperflynn3 11 months ago
@reaperflynn3 Can religion kill people? If you say yes then so can commusim and yea it does jospeh stalin was paranoid and was killing russian civilans left and right and also the russian revolution
trevorjohn9 11 months ago
@trevorjohn9 lol?
carbon0HUN 11 months ago
@carbon0HUN YOU IN NAM' BITCHES
trevorjohn9 11 months ago
@trevorjohn9 yre just pretend to be an idiot?or y are realy dumb.
carbon0HUN 11 months ago
@carbon0HUN Umm? Can you type you uneducated nigger?
trevorjohn9 11 months ago
@trevorjohn9 nigger? lol? and yre the american not me, so im not going to argue who is the uneducated...first think about what is communism, cos a political system canot kill ppl...heh..idiot..
carbon0HUN 11 months ago
@carbon0HUN Can Religion kill people?
trevorjohn9 11 months ago
@trevorjohn9 no it cant.ppl kill ppl...
carbon0HUN 11 months ago
@carbon0HUN a belief can kill people like if you were muslim and you belived you get 72 virgins when you die so you may kill yourself just for it, commusim is a belief as well not a religious but a governemtial belief it can kill people especially the fake propaganda they tell there people North Korea and China citizens probably don't even know Russia is not mainly commusinst anymore
trevorjohn9 11 months ago
@trevorjohn9 Muslim religion dont make ppl to kill, every religion have its own idiots, i can say it too christianity kill ppl, or capitalism...if the communism killed.
carbon0HUN 11 months ago
' However, in practice much of the bombing was indiscriminate, and hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed as a result. Estimates of civilian deaths vary from 100,000 to 600,000.'
"Operation Menu"
timelines web site
No doubt, YT user Tiger66261 will try to justify this atrocity like all the other US atrocities
Guevaristas 1 year ago
@Guevaristas And when did I say USA never committed atrocities? I fully accept USA committed horrible atrocities in the Vietnam war.
SO perhaps you should stop dodging the problem and actually accept that the veit cong and NVA also committed atrocities instead of making up shit about other YT users.
And if you are going to talk about me, actually REPLY to me instead of attempting to avoid the arguement
Tiger66261 1 year ago
murdering US thugs
Guevaristas 1 year ago
your logic is flawed and pure BS.
the north american forces and it's allies had NO right to be in Vietnam. Yes, this atrocity may have occurred, BUT, "would it have happened" (ex-hypothesi) if the USA etc had never invaded Vietnam??? No. The US invasion created the climate for events such as this. Stop trying to exonerate the USA , they were guilty from the outset.
This argument has nothing to do with jews or nazis, that analogy is absurd.
Guevaristas 1 year ago
@Guevaristas 'BUT, "would it have happened"' if the USA had never invaded"
Just look back on my analogy. Would the Nazi massacres happened if all the Jews decided to leave europe before WW2? No. But this doesn't mean the Jews are responsible for their own deaths.
Perhaps you should stop attempting to exonerate N.veitnam from the crimes they committed. There was NO REASON for the North Vietnamese to slaughter all those civilians at Hue. The US army did not force the NVA to mass murdering.
Tiger66261 1 year ago
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wtf are those people including the captain doing? GET DOWN for the snipers!
Silencer84 1 year ago
wtf are those people including the captain doing? GET DOWN :P
Silencer84 1 year ago
Vietnam was a mistake. All hell broke loose when we were there.
TheBigjohnny84 1 year ago
US atrocities in Vietnam war? Study the "My Lai Massacre".
'He fired at it [the baby] with a .45. He missed. We all laughed. He got up three or four feet closer and missed again. We laughed. Then he got up right on top and plugged him.'
"Peers Inquiry: Report of the Department of the Army Review of the Preliminary Investigations into the My Lai Incident".
Guevaristas 1 year ago
@Guevaristas Hue massacre was several times larger than Song My ("My Lai").
realwarfilms 1 year ago
@Guevaristas Hue massacre was much much worse than my lai. Sure the US killed a few but only calley got convicted and the rest was unfortunately not(Because they were ordered by Cally to kill them) Are you Vietnamese? We all know what VC/NVA did. They murdered 5 million people a day. After VN war, little every know is that VC/NVA used yellow rain(two times deadly than agent orange) and used it on our population, killing 5 million people. So please shut the hell up.
Hperman09 1 year ago
@Hperman09 now you shut up dickhead. The Vietnamese killed how many? You go back to the start dick, the yanks etc and new zealanders etc had no RIGHT whatsoever to even be in Vietnam. Before the US invasion democratic elections were about to be held.
It's as simple as this (simple as you are) if all those murderers had stayed away from Vietnam none of them would have been killed
Guevaristas 1 year ago
@Guevaristas So you're saying its the Americans fault that the NVA/VC killed civilians intentionally?
Oh please, the fucking communists still deny massacres like the Hue to this day. At least when a part of the US army commits a massacre, the culprits are all tried in a court of law.
And actually, democratic elections were held - months before the war resumed.
Tiger66261 1 year ago
@Tiger66261 use your dam brain if you have one:
'So you're saying its the Americans fault that the NVA/VC killed civilians intentionally?'
Through their actions, by invading Vietnam, the US created the situation for the slaughter and deaths of thousands in Vietnam. Obviously, if the US and the other rogue states had never invaded thousands of deaths would have been prevented. The same principle can be applied to Iraq.
Therefore the USA IS responsible for what happened at Hue.
Guevaristas 1 year ago
@Guevaristas You're logic is so flawed its not funny. Using it I could say "through the jews actions in WW2, they created a situation were they lived in Nazi germany, resulting in the deaths of thousands of Jews. For that reason, it was the Jews fault so many died in Nazi germany"
All you are doing it going backwords, failing to see that it was the NVA's use of tactics that caused this. When the NVA slaughtered civilians they did it intentionally and at their own will, without any real reason.
Tiger66261 1 year ago
@Guevaristas
The U.S. was INVITED by a free RVN, it didn't invade. WHo' Chi broke the treaty first by leaving NVA in the south who were supposed to go back home. I was there with the USMC and didn't kill anyone who wasn't trying to kill me. If it hadn't been for the same kind of scewed-up politicos we're still stuck with we would have defeated them - ask the NVA commanders. And of course Cronkite who saw defeat after the overwhelming victory of the Tet offensive, the pompous asshole.
vajra0150 9 months ago
this is AWESOME!!!!
kerojis 1 year ago
lol most ppl back then called it a bad war a usless war we need to get out and let them fightit out, same shit as iraq? but we stay till the job gets done sorry to all who hate Americans all i can say is TY to all who server thair countrys and to those who are serving in iraq hope you all come back to your homes/famlys and safe and sound.
dasrever 1 year ago
This is how wardocumentarys should be; no fancy music an no bloody NHL-sound-alike-commentarys
haldur86 1 year ago
what was the soldier doing at the end of the video?
Getting the Ak-47, but first checking possible mines or explosives like in WWII?
cunhagremio 1 year ago
@cunhagremio Yeah i think they were checking to see if there were any explosives hidden under the corpse.
Mattei19 1 year ago
@MegaMnguyen If I was world leader like the yanks think they are I would nuke the whole of shitfaced usa.....get rid of the fat land..
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MegaMnguyen please this war is pointless , why do you Americans want our land so much , we reaspect you and we hope you reaspect us ,too . And don`t just make a parody out of this.
godzilla261 1 year ago
@godzilla261 this war aint pointless, it was for our national security
Vidguy242424 1 year ago
@Vidguy242424 say what ???
realy don`t understand , we in Asia and you 10000 miles away from us how the heck does we ever gonna attack you
godzilla261 1 year ago
@godzilla261 no cuz, china and russia were with north vietnam, they were communist. they wanted to conquer the south. then launch attacks from vietnam
Vidguy242424 1 year ago
Are there any Yanks that arnt fat or stupid????
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 are there any brit cunts who dont have bad teeth and look like a rat?
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX Yes, the ones that havent come from stupid fat no history country usa...pmsl. Fucking retards them yanks lol..
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 no history country? remember the part when we kicked your ass for our independence, THEN kicked your ass again in 1812? there your history, go brush your teeth
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX Oh yes. You must still be at school! Yes you kicked our as in Iraq as well bombing our troops cause you fooking lot are shit with crap troops who shit thereselves so bomb everything in sight. Had to call in the elite for Afgan as well cause you could not do it on your own... Go and diet lardass...pmsl..Oh retarded lardass..lol
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 oh yea ok, we bomb eveerything, we kicked your asses, i mean, arses, many many times, and iraq? your asses are fighting with us so stfu, not everyone here is fat, but everyone over there has horrible teeth and has a weird voice and is ugly
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX pmsl... Retard..lol If a yank int fat its cause they young and working on it munching popcorn all the time pmsl.. Fat useless fuckers lol
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 It seems you are illiterate. I advise you to learn the English language before you try to speak it.
gearbox011 1 year ago
@gearbox011 lol... prick..pmsl
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 Are you mad because you realize you're just as ignorant and backwards as those rednecks in the southern United States? You have no ability to form your own opinions and use untrue stereotypes to justify your logically flawed opinion? I bet its not even your opinion, you're just as intelligent as a gnat. Your country would be ashamed of you, seeing as you lack not only intelligence but integrity. Your obsession for persecution is troubling, making whatever you say wroth dirt.
gearbox011 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 you dont know shit about America, my friend said her dad went to England and said it looked like everyone hasnt showered in 10 days, so fuck off you dirty rat
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX you have no friends.. You not been out that shithole of a country then. You should try it. Open your eyes and se that there is more to the world than being fat. I have seen enough of america to realise I never want to go there again retard. Well until all the fat yanks have fucked off..pmsl
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 You have seen what you wanted too, you my small minded friend. I know your type, I know enough to see the hypocrisy in throwing around stereotypes at American's because you think they're true because they're on your favorite movie or TV show. Your whiny, ill placed self righteous claims supply 100% the daily-recommended horseshit and your outdated suppositions about their detractors is apart of a obsession of persecution of the current super power. You're an inferior man... Peasant
gearbox011 1 year ago
@gearbox011 inferior.... pmsl....Yanks are so full of themselves..Like you..PRICK pmsl....
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 I'm Swedish. You assume I'm a "yank" because I disagree with you, Doesn't mean I'm American. I dislike the American government, I don't dis their entire people. I crack jokes at them, but I know they're not true.
gearbox011 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 you dont know me, i have lots of friends, and one said that her dad says it looks like no one showers, why would i wanna go to your shit country anyway, oh bwt, gearbox011 is owning you, you know nothing if america so dont talk shit about it, even after it kicked your countries ass several times, your either a sad lil kid, or a no like fat old man so fuck off "ya bloody wanka!"
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX look, I could write a big paragraph eloquently citicising you for being an ignorant tit but it's late, so...shut the fuck up you idiot.
Slypaperclips 1 year ago
@Slypaperclips if you dont like my big paragraphs then dont read them assfuck
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX you really are as thick as pig shit.
Slypaperclips 1 year ago
@Slypaperclips fuck off you dirty british bastard, im skinny
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX at what point did I argue to the contrary? I rest my case- thick as the thickest of pig shit. Crawl back into your hole. Goodbye.
Slypaperclips 1 year ago
@Slypaperclips you started it to me dumb shit, go take a shower and get some braces
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX hahaaaaa, another stunning display of wit from our resident fucktard...yes, I'll be sure to do that, right after I've finished this cup of tea with the Queen and had my daily game of cricket. You are really too easy, all you can come up with is either a stereotypical remark that highlights your stupidity or a nonesensical retort. Give up.
Slypaperclips 1 year ago
@Slypaperclips oh stfu, your the one that started on me calling me fat, your such a fuckin hipocrite, not jus that, your also retarded, YOU give it up, YOU started it, so go cry yourself to sleep like you do every night
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX when in fuck's name did I call you fat?? Quote me!! I said you were thick, implying that you lack intelligence; you've proved me right with your bigotry, ignorance and vulgarity. You are so pathetic it's actually painful watching you wallow in your own stupidity in this comment section. I think I will stop now, it's a little too close to teasing a small mammal...pointless and beneath me. You can have the parting shot, you know you've lost anyway. Bye.
Slypaperclips 1 year ago
@Slypaperclips stfu, wtf did i lose, im jus telling off a sad lonely british cunt that has nothing better to do then to comment on here, ITS ABOUT VIETNAM DAMMIT, go drink a "cup 'o tea" im sorry i dont know your dumbass british insults, waya gonna do, call me a twat? yea stfu and go back to your gay friend Mr. ROSIEland, since thats such a straight name, the brits truly are sad, look at your pathetic comments, fuck off austin powers
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@XvChriisvX lol "you know nothing if america"? Thick prick... Gearbox owns nothing apart from a dictionary....No go and finger yourself RETARD YANK...PMSL...end off!!! Oh ps, looks like slypaperclips knows your stupid as well..lol
MrRosielad2 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 we actually know how to type a sentence that doesnt look like a retard typed it,and slypaperclips is another dumb dirty british cunt just like you, you dont know wtf your talking about, the only thing you say is that america is all fat which isnt true, then you try to make up shit in desperation you can hold up this pointles arguement you started, like i said, your either a sad lil kid, or a fat old man
XvChriisvX 1 year ago
@MrRosielad2 Aww, were the words to big for you feeble mind? You're just proving that you're uneducated, ignorant and simpleminded. You're a peasant and you will always be a peasant. You're nothing but a burden upon society, you contribute nothing. I bet you haven't even been to college. Get out of my Europe and go to Southern America, you'll fit right in with the other ignorant mouth breathing masses.
gearbox011 1 year ago
lol at 1:10, gotta love british humor
MarkVll 1 year ago
Wow they were trained so well they acted as if they werent afriad or anything
kinglink64 1 year ago
Sandy Gaul. One of the best war correspodents ever! And before days of technology!
qgloscit 1 year ago
Sandy Gaul. One of the best war correspodents ever! And before days of technology!
qgloscit 1 year ago
I think to most people, Vietnam is a war and not a country
pino505 1 year ago 28
@pino505
it is a was country. Never mind, i get used to, and i am proud of that. 2500 year of vietnam history, you rarely find any century without the exist of war.
21thuy 1 year ago
@21thuy let me rephrase that: Vietnam IS a country, and I am proud of that(im sorry, the part with nevermind and i get used to doesnt really make much sense) With 2500 years of vietnamese history, you rarely find any century without the existance of war. xP
tutupatia 1 year ago
@tutupatia
yep, agree.
:)
21thuy 1 year ago
@pino505 yes sir
RevolverLover101 1 year ago
@pino505 Vietnam now is a fast growing, peaceful, beautiful country if you care. If Vietnam stop export food, some of you guy will feel hungry
TheBaoAndro 10 months ago
@pino505 yeah i know. im half vietnamese but i dont look asian. when people figure it out they ask me if im chinese. when i tell them im vietnamese, they friek out and say i killed a shit load of americans.
ckc1241 7 months ago
im not saying war is great but documentaries like these are awsome they give a more realistic view of Vietnam unlike movies
Finalthings91 1 year ago 36
@Finalthings91 watch platoon then
born2bewilddude 1 year ago
@Finalthings91 Don't find some documentary make on purpose of scams and LIE for that. You are killing your respect of the truth for that.
TheBaoAndro 10 months ago
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Well i'll be dipped in shit 3 days and a wake up, oh lord, you gonna love the Nam, for fukn EVER.
happymana 1 year ago
Sandy Gall
jimbob1969 1 year ago
There seems to be so many experts on Nam. I am still trying to figure out my 2 year combat stay, marines 69-71. Thank god the girl I married didn't judge me for I did that enough myself. Right or Wrong good or bad. I fought for my buddies and myself and my country. I think that is the right order. This was a world mission. Remember the french were there first, I saw their officers graves with all the germans laid next to them. We fought hard as american's do.
boots37822 1 year ago
@boots37822 Well said, and most of all "WELCOME HOME". Military Assistance Comd Advisory Team 8 2nd Area Logistical Comd. 2nd Corps Qui Nhon June 67 - June 68
nyimtman 1 year ago 2
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@boots37822 "I fought for my buddies and myself and my country."
HTF were you fighting of your country ?
The Vietcong fighting to be independant from the brutal colonial French rule are the one's fighting for their country.
You were just interfering.
pobinr 1 year ago
Where is your evidence to undermine my arguments then?
The wives of MIA's treated like 5hit by your beloved government.
Crook Nixon taking the war into Cambodia with no mandate from the American people to do so. Countless civilians slaughtered. Remember the Max Hastings account. They're only gooks the pilot said as he executed people.
Domino theory as basis for war was balony as Reds didn't take over Indochina after u booted out.
Yor answer is u should hav slaughtered more.
For what I ask ?
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr No evidence is needed to refute a case that hasn't even been made. What arguments have you advanced? Millions of civilians slaughtered? You produce no evidence to support such a charge so what is there to refute? It is said that you cannot prove a negative, which isn't always true but as in this case it is often logically sound. One cannot prove that millions of civilians were NOT killed except by pointing out the lack of evidence for such a charge. Provide some evidence to support it.
sortie9 1 year ago
@sortie9 Kissinger - Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.
Kissinger - Military men as "dumb, stupid animals to be used" as pawns for foreign policy.
Eisenhour "How can we expect 'free elections' to be held in the Communist North?" Diem asked. President Dwight D. Eisenhower echoed senior U.S. experts when he wrote that, in 1954, "80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh" over Emperor Bảo.
USA great believer in democracy as long as it gets the votes it wants lOL
pobinr 1 year ago
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@pobinr So you have no evidence to support your outlandish claims? Why am I not surprised?
sortie9 1 year ago
@pobinr
East Timor?
HBSchool 1 year ago
@HBSchool East timor - Most recently, journalist Christopher Hitchens raised questions about the role of former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger in giving a green light to the invasion that has left perhaps 200,000 dead in the years since.
google "kissinger east timor" for more.
The evil %uck
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr concerning boots37822
Relax pobinr, it's not just America, direct your energies towards the idea of government. A countries "evil" is commensurate with the size of its tax base.
HBSchool 1 year ago
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@pobinr "Crook Nixon taking the war into Cambodia with no mandate from the American people to do so." -- Since when do WE, THE PEOPLE, get to agree whether we go to war or not?
AK47HEAVYMETAL83 1 year ago
9/11 was a well crafted human sacrifice ritual with masonic symbolism (twin towers=jachin&boaz) and numerology all over it! They even admit this simple fact and false flag ops are the oldest trick in the book, but you are too smart to fall for it right? So it can't be true cause you are so smart...no, we've all been had big time!
And Vietnam was yet another huge human sacrifice ritual to push more socialism in the US...International bankers want world socialism, welcome to the NWO...
muffl556 1 year ago
Yeah pinpoint accuracy from 35000 feet onto jungle.
You want to justify illegal combat started covertly by Nixon a known crook. Uadmit the war a waste of time.As for Reds withholding the truth.
How about MIA's in Cambodia. The wives threatened if they revealed MIA in Cambidia. 1had house broken into& letters stolen. I mean who do u think really pulls the strings. Bankers& CIA slimeballs & sponsors of your corrupt politicians &people who's careers depend on wars being fought for phoney reasons.
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr
You are the kind of nutjob that believes that 9/11 was in inside job with explosives planted in the WTT or that NASA faked the moon landing.
What's this"your corrupt politicians" crap? Lol...I suppose the politicians in Britain or what ever Eurotrash country you hail from are honest? You guys could barely take on Argentina..Lol...it was a draw since they nearly sunk your entire "navy".
To quote a great man (okay, rabbit) "What a maroon"
sortie9 1 year ago
@sortie9 Because you can't justify mass murder of the Nam war you've gone all Ad hominem. Attack the person not their arguments.
911 was an Al Queda job, WTC collapsed due2impulsive force of pancaking exceeding static design limit.
I'm no less cynical about slimeball politicians wherever they are.
The wives of pilots MIA in Cambodia were interviewed on SKY documentary.
U've no idea of dark forces pulling strings behind the scenes in Washington or Moscow or anywhere else for that matter.
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr Lol...dark forces...scarrryyy. I blame Sauron or maybe Emperor Palpatine.
Grow up, people!
sortie9 1 year ago
@pobinr You have no real arguments to debate just silly ass opinions with no evidence to support them. Your basic premise isn't supported by any facts. This mass murder you speak of. Unless one gets philosophical about all war being mass murder there is no evidence to support that charge. Maybe you can back up your charge with some real evidence? I won't hold my breath awaiting your erudite response.
sortie9 1 year ago
WWII was a war for survival. Justifiable as self defence.
Vietnam was was not justifiable. The domino theory as justification for fighting the war was shown to be BS spread by fear mongers. Reds spread no further than S Nam when after USA booted out.
When there's $ billions to be made from wars by defence contractors that sponsor politicians then they always find reasons to fight wars.
Example Saddam & WMD = BS.
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr Who's survival? Total BS... it was what most all wars are about... power. The Brits would have survived under German rule. Only their freedom would have failed to survive. Your theories about the benign nature of communist rule could be disputed by some former South Vietnamese and a couple of million Cambodians if it weren't for the fact that they are dead, Dead as a result of the communist takeover. Grow up. Educate yourself. Then come and debate with the grownups.
sortie9 1 year ago
@sortie9 How many Cambodians killed by B52's ?
Pol Pot came to power because US destabilised the region.
Mind boggling arrogance for USA, run by that crook Nixon, to have been meddling in the afairs of a country 5k miles away. WTF do you think you are ?
God chosen people. That's what yanks so hated wordwide by people including Europeans.
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr LOl...the US is blamed for mass murdering communist killers like Pol Pot..That's rich. Can't say for sure how many Cambodians were killed by bombing. Not likely too many since the communist installations were being targeted, not population centers. Carpet bombing indeed...you know nothing of the war or of military history.
sortie9 1 year ago
I do not understand the hatred of not all but some U.K. civilians unless they have just arrived or are a 1st generation civilian. The last time the government's of the U.S. and U.K. killed one another was the American Revolution. I hate the word revolution also because it was a war of independence. The only Revolution that took place was the Boston tea party. Hate the U.S. or love it we will always back Britain and Vice Versa.
Glennw79 1 year ago
FUCK VC
Fortunatecat 1 year ago
roflmao.
That British Camera dude in the start...
*Shots are being fired*
''This vessel is carrying a large stockpile of ammunition, so I hope we don't get hit in the process.''
Dunno why, but British are just awesome
SinerAthin 1 year ago 18
@SinerAthin thats sandy gall, he was a veteran of the belgian congo and all sorts of other conflicts. cup of tea in one hand and steel helmet in the other. "chin chin"
MrJimmyboy1972 1 year ago
@SinerAthin
Sandy Gaul. One of the best war correspondents ever. 14 years later he was dodging Russian Hinds and and filming with the Mujadhein. If only we knew what we know now!
qgloscit 1 year ago
@SinerAthin that is the worst comment i have ever seen
aerlingus18 1 year ago
@aerlingus18 Why?
iNiNjAMaNg0 1 year ago
@iNiNjAMaNg0 coz this is the vietnam war and he says the british are awesome and they just arent
aerlingus18 1 year ago
@aerlingus18 Hey, i'm British, what's wrong with Britain?
iNiNjAMaNg0 1 year ago
@iNiNjAMaNg0 well im irish so what do you want me to think and they have to always mention a war somehow
aerlingus18 1 year ago
SECURE THAT LZ
Charlie in the Bush!
Requesting Napalm Air support!
xIegionx 1 year ago
The FACT speaks for itself:
"Vietnam seeks Google, Yahoo! help to control bloggers:
AFP- Dec 2, 2008
The government will announce new rules this month, stressing that weblogs should serve as personal online diaries, not as organs to disseminate opinions about politics, religion and society, senior officials were quoted as saying... violators could face 12,000-dollar fines and up to 12 years jail."
HO CHI MINH !
IS THIS THE "FREEDOM" YOU FOUGHT FOR? THANKS A LOT, A**HOLE !!!
nguyensinhsac 1 year ago
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QLVNCH trang bị hoành tráng, cũng bày đặt tướng lĩnh này nọ nhưng là 1 lũ ăn hại hèn nhát. Không đánh nổi 1 trận nào ra hồn, chỉ giỏi Đảo chính, ở chiến trường thì chạy như Vịt. Mỹ rút quân về nước, chỉ mất có 55 ngày là lũ ô hợp này tan rã. Không biết có nên gọi là 1 quân đội không nhỉ, hay chỉ là 1 mớ rẻ rách....đố ai biết đấy. Phơi mặt lên internet cho thêm Nhục..hê..hê..
yenvi2 1 year ago
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Ho chi Minh, Vietnam's communist founder, is a disguting TRAITOR and MURDERER. He was a member of the Third Communist International established in 1919 by Lenin. He gave up Paracel & Spratly archipelagos with large oil resources to Red China. He even ordered to murder his own mistress named Nong thi Xuan when she threatened to disclose her sexual relationship with him since that would destroy his image as a "Father" of Vietnam who "sacrifices" his whole life for Vietnam revolution.
tim666661 1 year ago
The communist authority orchestrates the agent orange lawsuit as a propaganda for money through Nguyen Trong Nhan, a former health minister who is a vice chairman of the Vietnam Association for Victims of Agent Orange, and millions of dollars of compensation for victims would end up in the pockets of corrupt high-ranking officials as in the case of PMU-18 scandal in which foreign aid was used to gamble and pay for prostitutes. (Vietnam is ranked as second most corrupt nations in Asia)
tim666661 1 year ago
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Fighting pure evil by Napalming villages, indiscriminate carpet bombing, spraying mutagenic substances,killing 2or3 million mostly civilians, committing My Lai Massacre &that's just the 1 we heard about.
These people wanted independance from brutal French colonials just like u wanted independence from us Brits.
They had far more right to fight for this than you fools going 6k miles 2 interfere in some1 else's business because of an exaggerated Red threat2 keep arms makers happy.
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr You tell us to stay out of other peoples wars, well what about world war 1 when you helped belgium fight germany? Thats not staying out of other peoples wars.
huntingboy2 1 year ago
@huntingboy2 Ifu think you can possibly justify killing 3 milion on basis it4their own good, then u r as barking mad as a Nazi.They just wanted independance from French &then from corrupt president theCIA installed in S.nam.Saw a N.Nam woman interviewed. She an ordinary woman who wanted to live her life in peace. Then her family were killed by some all American hero pressing the 'drop bombs' button in a B52.
After that she joined Vietcong &all she wanted2do was kill Americans. U&I would b same
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr Really? How do you justify the ~55 million killed in WW II? If you are looking for "justification" in war then you are confused. It was certainly true that many Vietnamese in the South wished to be free of the communist, totalitarian state, just as the South Koreans did. In the case of the South Koreans ask them how many wish to give up their freedom and prosperity and go live in the North.
sortie9 1 year ago
@sortie9 Suggest u read history of Vietnam over last 100 years& what lead up2that pointless war. A key point when Truman ignored Minn's request for help when he had all the Japs in Nam locked up in1945.
Minn quoted the US dec of independance to Truman as they didn't want to return to the totalitarianism of French colonial rule. Truman ignored Minn's request for independance from the French & sided with De Gaule instead to satisfy De Gaull'es bloated ego. What a disasterous mistake that was.
pobinr 1 year ago
@pobinr Whether or not Truman ignored Minn request for aid it has little to do with the communists under Ho invading the South, especially after signing a peace treaty not 2 years earlier. French colonial rule was oppressive it's true but hardly totalitarian. That came later with the communists.
sortie9 1 year ago
@sortie9 Vietnamese invading their own country LOL
pobinr 1 year ago
@sortie9 Your analogy to WWI is interesting.
In WWII the Nazis did the mass killing on an industrial scale.
In the Vietnam war the Amercians did the mass killing on an industrial scale.
What a great way to win people over to the great freedoms on offer in the west.
Napalm, dioxin & carpet bomb them.
Not to mention the Mai Lia massacre.
Go wiki that... charming eh ?
pobinr 1 year ago