@trogers, fuck off you yank prick. Lets tal about blue on blue shall we?.............thought not. The whole world would be safer if you fuckers could identify friend from foe.
anyway, as you've been so mature and told me to eat dick I'm not going to continue this pointless exercise, the cob thing is obviously your iraq story and while the rest of your guys were fighting in bagdad and fallujah you were watching a computer screen in basra.
the fact you are on here crying that you weren't safe is what the JAM wanted, its all propaganda and you fell for it. peace bro!
@trogers671 lol no guy. the rest of my guys where sitting around not having anything to fire at cuz they already killed the mortar and rocket teams the first time. unlike the british who want to sit around and say "oiy! look, those blokes are setting up again to fire at us! lets not do a damn thing and maybe they will stop!"
u do a true diservice to ur country and the men and women that died in vein when u talk ur shit about not being safe. snap the fuck out of it. rockets killed people there.
yeah just read thru most of the comments. basically everything ive said is on point. basra got slammed with rockets because brits wouldnt fire back...any other american fob we would fire back and get maybe 1-2 rocket/mortar attacks per month. the second thing i noticed was alot of rockets werent tracked or the cram didnt go off. when our radar got there we tracked ever damn rocket they threw at us. No idea why the british were there. they just put their lives and ours in danger
@R3cal the cob got slammed because we couldn't fire back. most of the rails were set up on the edge of the city which was a no indirect fire zone. the reason a jet could hit them is because its direct fire not because it was a US one. i presuming you were one of Tommys mates and sat front left?
we were crippled by rules of engagement in Iraq but please stop referring to it as though it was the soldiers fault it was our goverments!
@trogers671 actually i wasnt a permanent resident in the ops room....i was there every now and then for this and that but we had direct contact with them because our system along with the others were so vital. we had the map that had all the clear fire areas and what not...and there were too many times that i tracked a round that came from a clear fire zone.
i do agree with u....it was the british government. but u guys had some shitty officers at that too. i met plenty of guys that were cool
@trogers671 i mostly am referring to the higher ups like i said before there were alot of cool brits that even celebrated our 4th of july with us...imagine that. lol
@R3cal just one more thing!!! that other radar you refer to was LCMR - you have that as well. You are right about the generator how the f***! the bloke at the gate with the pistol was an Iraqi soldier that didn't like having ID checked and was headbutted by the 2RW lad on the gate. and AGAIN we did fire back A LOT so get your facts right if fact if I remember the reason the paladins came was because we were firing back so much. i got a feeling your are that young nation guardsmen.
@trogers671 i completely forgot about the LCMR and u right on point with that....but the lcmr did very little to track anything...its meant for mortars and it did its job over in the palace. but one was set up downt he road from us...god knows why. I didnt hear that he got head butted...cheers to that. and as for the paladins...they didnt do anything either...cuz the powers that be with brits didnt let them. and if ur guns shot...it was in another direction as a show of force.
@trogers671 OH and they shot our Excaliber round in the middle of no where?! i about shit myself when i heard that. we had the right grids for the counterfire but the brits offset it WAAAAAAY too much and it just hit nothing. an $80,000 gps guided artillery round wasted. absolutely no need for that. its CEP (circular error probable) is 66 ft. which is the largest radius recorded failure. and 92% of all the rounds that have been fired in iraq have landed within 13 feet.
@trogers671 oh and for ur last comment about the kidnapping....i know of others like dudes dressed up in iraq uniforms going into latrines and kidnapping people..but one particular one was when a female almost got kidnapped on that looooong stretch of road heading to ..charlie camp? some camp out by the end of the runway by the fence..well the female was running in the morning but another male came up and scared the iraqi's off. after that everyone ran in pairs. a civ buddy almost got kidnapped
@R3cal I'm sure with the female it was Iraqi Army and those attempted kidnapped on every single base in Iraq we were just lucky to let a SIED in. We learnt a lot from Iraq about not being robust and the US about being too robust. You can see that in AFG if you've been. its the other way round! Some fat Legal bloke used to have the final say in Basra and that was wrong,trouble with officers is they're too concerned about their careers.
@simoneywymney Hey mate, Im US Army, sent down to fly ravens for u guys april 2007 timeframe. This video brought back some hellish memories, I was at Trenchard Lines, those damn Crams sucked at shooting those 240mm bastards down. It was a pisser to work and party with you guys.
@sargeantatarms mate it was the british army controling c ram ,
american civilians were there for logistic support only.
And to be honest, it was a 50/50 success rate.
if they hit an incomming it didn't always explode and we'd still be hit buy the debris and then an explosion ! i speak from personal experiance of that.
one more point, c ram is a "self" protecting defence weapon.
There is no such thing as luck in Iraq. You either make it or you dont.
@simoneywymney hey man, I thought the c ram was of US design and construction? Which makes my point that many of your friends were saved by an American playing with a big machinegun.
the system was designed by a german company and built by you americans for naval ship protection.
When I was in Iraq last C ram responded to a rocket attack ,it partially hit a 240mm rocket altering its tradjectory and comming down and exploding in a corrmeck with 4 in killing all of them.....no saving there , its nice to see the sky light up with c ram returning fire but I never felt completely safe untill I was in Kuwait waiting to go home.
@simoneywymney doesn't the C ram use exploding shells? I know the CIWS on ships just uses armor piercing 20 mm rounds which are prolly more effective...
@sargeantatarms time delay exploding rounds.... because they arent fireing over water where the rounds can safely hit water and nothing else....exploding after a certain time period keeps them from hitting citys and shit on their way back down
@simoneywymney I was there. the british didnt control cram...they just acted like idiots and put them near the chu's instead of on the perimeter. thats why it was 50/50. not to mention the shit that would come down on us after the rocket exploded. and they didnt fire back....otherwise we wouldnt have been pounded so much. and luck had nothin to do with that. brit politics at its best. AAAAAAAND> the brits radar was shit. it was the american radar that saved lives. urs shut down to heat
@R3cal I did 3 tours there and the British DID control Cram , also cram is a self protecting system thats why it was set up were they were, to protect acom qtrs. and as for running around like idiots. apart from the US spec force team, which I worked with on my last tour,.It was you yanks that were the idiots. fucking about . making mre bombs wearing fucking bandanners like you were back in"nam".you lot couldn't work unless your were full of Gatorade you prick !
@simoneywymney my friend u r hilarious. yes there was the giraffe...and there was some lousy other british radar... and they both shut down constantly. I was there from around march 07 to end of oct 07 and it was OUR AMERICAN MADE AMERICAN RUN RADAR that tracked each and every single round during that time. Q-37. since we were always up, it was our system that sent the cram the warning which sounded the alarm. and we even had our own artillery battery but brits wouldnt let us fire.
Respond to this video... Oh and one more thing, WHAT american radar ? In three tours the only other radar was the giraffe and that wasn't american, and before you say, the AS90 are controlled by another type of system.
Try reading some of the other posts before commenting. It might not make you look as stupid as your comments imply .
@simoneywymney spot on mate Giraffe is German and was ran by the FP Wing (RAF Regt )just like it is now in KAF.
I think people are confused between CRAM and Phalinx. 2 different things but i hate that gun because if the one in your protected area opened up you knew a rocket was inbound to your vicinity. 6 months of constant attacks took its toll on everyone however hard you think you are . R3cal- ironicly its american politics that is preventing us in afghanistan as i speak.
@simoneywymney AND, we had to personnally secure our site and switch off on roving guard cuz the brits felt chain link fence was enough to keep people out. u guys had kidnappings... u had shit stolen...weapons...uniforms..ammo...GENERATORS. I remember a day when the brits aloud some dude that walked up to a gate entrance to point a gun at one of the british guards. U never fired back after a rocket attack. there is a reason basrah got hit with more rockets than any american fob... COMBINED
@R3cal I worked in bde ops on telic 10 and you are right about CRAM being ran by Americans but that was just the central bit.CRAM is made up of lots of different things. Phalinx wasn't part of cram it was a standalone system BUT was controlled by Brits 10 Bty RA is be precise. we did fire back on the rocket teams but if you knew what you were talking about you would remember that most rails were on timers so there were no bods anyway.i you were there during 10 u wouldnt slag us off.
@trogers671 the timer thing was true for some. def not for all. we sent our data to our UAF counterparts and they had eyes on more times than i can count...shit..i was standing in the main ops room watching the brits just stare at the screen of the uav capturing a rocket team setting up again after their last launch. this is especially true for when we had the complex attack. we had to callin an american jet to drop a bomb on them. the brits would just not fire. some peace mission.
@simoneywymney it also rained down debris cuz some british know it all moron positioned the phalanx cannons inside the camps....instead of way out on the parameter.
@R3cal we(the British) didn't know! nor did you. we are an Army set up and trained for manoeuvre warfare not defending a large airport from rocket attacks by irregular troops but then again maybe we should have listened to you R3cal an NCO from the National Guard as you seem to know it all(in hindsight). Get a life sunshine its all over. I guarantee that was your 1 and only tour.
@trogers671 IF YOU SHOOT BACK AT ROCKET TEAMS THEY WILL EITHER A) DIE .... OR B) THINK TWICE ABOUT SHOOTING EVERY FUCKING DAY. every other american fob takes 1-2 rocket / mortar attacks per month. why? CUZ WE SHOOT BACK. yeah...i spent 7 months in basrah before our section got moved elsewhere....and its the fucking idiots that gave orders not to shoot that put my life in danger FOR NO DAMN REASON. so yeah i have a right to be mad. 1 15 month tour compared to ur panzy 4-6 month? eat a dick
@R3cal haha, sore point???????? mate you're talking rubbish. Both Balad and Tallil used get hit all the time and they never fired back either. you know we DID fire back and how??? have you been doing it longer please explain. You yanks wont do night ops in AFG in case you wake up the women and children. bless xx.
i say again you're talking shit. Mr one tour. your life wasn't really in danger was it? i bet you never left camp REMF
@trogers671 U fireing back = int he opposite direction or wasting an $80k gps guided artillery shell. uh.... u keep saying one tour but i saw 3 sets of u brits come through....my one tour = 3 of ur vactions to beautiful basra. and my job was an artillery radar counterfire operator. which means if brits vs yanks happend again and u ACTUALLY shot a round at us....30 seconds later rounds would be raining down on that postion. u wouldnt have time to breath bud.... much less take cover or leave area.
@trogers671 oh and ur tony blair is alive cuz of our radar..fucking unthankful brit. yeah..the rest of the radars were down due to heat durign the day when the rocket came in and blew up near his helicopter..luckily our radar set off the siren and he took cover. UR WELCOME. and when i left basrah i was doing convoys with the team that went into the cities to train the iraqi police and army. so yeah i saved lives one part of the tour..and went out and kicked some ass and trained troops the other
@simoneywymney yeah they probably look a little worse now. Its the last old living area in bas now. We got lucky they dropped rockets all around us but never on out living area, the C-ram got one right above us that would have hit us, I was outside the shower when i happened.
@simoneywymney this was the most stupid idea of them all. we gave them the middle finger when they told us to *stone henge* our rooms. first of all there are huge hesco baskets around all the living quarters....if a 240....122....107 mm rocket hit inside of those hescos u r dead from the concusion. if it hits the overhead impact roof and sprays fire down on ur chu..and u have those stupid bricks up...from what we saw with movement ability ....u might not have a fast enough exit .
@R3cal stonehenge wasn't about the protection from the sides but exactly as you said-from above. thats why the steel plates and sandbags!!!! again mis-information by you.
We get it, you dont like us Brits and you should have run the British operation in Iraq. You are the greatest. Thankyou. Part timer. xx
@trogers671 part timer? where the fuck r u guys getting the reference that i was national gaurd? im not some fucking weekend warrior.. and u wouldnt have to have protection from shrapnel if u postitioned the phalanx cannon right. and if u got hit dead on with a rocket on top of ur chu ur fucking dead. every american that has been doing this type of shit longer then ur punk ass army LAUGHED THEIR ASSES OFF when they saw photos of ur dumbass brick beds. and when they heard u wouldnt shoot back.
God that alarm brings back evil memorys -.- Was there in 2007 from Feb to Aug. Had 467 Alarms and around 1200 impacts in that time. No idea where they get the stuff but they sure as hell are getting it.
@Spocktavian atleast you made out safe mate. i had a norrow escape when on guard one night. One rocket flew right over head skipped on the road opposite the tower and went through the doors of the building on the other side of the road and blew ! scary times
At least you had C-RAM and the Phalanx Guns. In the early days on the COB, the only warning we had was the Woosh or a bang from the impact! Easy life!!
Yeah can beleive you as the phallanx didn't always detect incomming > Many a time that happened. Once while walking at night to the london gifts and NAAfi one hit the fresh concrete were the super Mes was going tobe built. No woosh or warning Just a fucking big bang ! scared the living shit out of me !
You really get used to all the booms and sirens after a while. I was one of four US Marines on the COB. You British sure do get your knickers in a wad when those alarms go off don't you?
Thank god for the C-RAM countermeasures, it lets you know that you are somewhat safe. The only feeling that arose when i hear this is that "Will it come through my roof".
Every time that alarm went off in the night I used to pull my bed sheet closer and roll over . what annoyed me the most is you couldn't hear the imcomming rounds/ rockets cause of that fucking noise.
I must admit , it was that time between the alarm sounding and the 1st impact that bugged me .just waiting... and waiting .. then a fucking almight bumf ! and bits of metal flying everywere ! scarey really isn't quite doing the experiance justice. more like " fucking wholly fucking bollox ! "
been there... heard that alarm.... heard the phalanx... seen that fucking cat sitting on top of the blast walls during incoming at jhf(i)... how the fuck has it not been fragged??
it use to make me wonder ? The jinglies would just wander about durring an attck. I remember lying face down in the dirt facing a group of jinglies (lorrie drivers) who were having tea and plying dominos while all hell broke loose in the skies. ther were just looking at me laughing. LOL
I definately believe you have balls, Running away from your country and all. Even if it's your parents choice. Go and join the army and die please, rid the world of your presence so we may live happily.
If you love Iraq so much then fuck off back there. No one forced you to leave. And by the way, go on and join the army. I'll enjoy watching you cry like a girl when your beloved countrymen start shooting at you.
Only reason you speak those languages is because you're some immigrant fuck that sits around collecting welfare in someone elses country. Go fuck a goat retard.
You fucking thick cunt. "gejunot" you have know idea have you , i speak 3 languages other than english and i speak Arabic you stupid ignorant fucking camel fucker.
Gejunot is arabic for girl by the way . prick no fuck off back to the desert .
Awesome,Was there last year april to july and nearly 600 rockets hit, some metres away. one attack last only a few minutes but counted over 30 impacts, looking forward to going back in oct this year!
no u didnt go there u loser! bit stupid sayin april to july, thts 3 months, nd the british forces are posted to Iraq and Afghanistan 6 months at a time always.
I think i was there mate, yes the normal units do 6 months,I was out there 21 April to 25 July, Combat Camera Team only do three months at a time. I photographed 19 repats, took over 10,000 images, went on stacks of strikes ops, was even in a warrior that was hit by two roadside bombs killing the driver nad injuring the crew. So i'm not mistaken.
dnt make me laugh mate, firstly if u rly were then u wouldnt feel the need to show off nd tell everyone about it, nd secondly 2 roadside bombs? if the drivers dead how did u hit the second bomb. even if the driver dint die first ive seen wat happens to a warrior nd it aint movable after a hit. GEEK STOP LYIN!
You've got to be taking the piss, firstly i wasn't showing off. you questioned me not being there the some odd reason so i told you what i'd been through, secondly the warrior was contacted by two IED's first one fucked up the 30mm and the comms but didn't disable the warrior and we were contacted a short distance further down the road, killing our driver died LCpl Ryan "franky" Francis, 2 Royal welsh and injuring the crew. .
I dont even know why i'm trying to prove to you that i was out there, my photographs with my name on are all over the place from that tour, i photographed the repats of nearly 20 brave young soldiers who died on telic 9 and 10 and no matter what the fuck you think i was there
alrite m8 i believe u, jus askin coz theres so many dickeds hu take the glory off the service men nd women hu actually have the bottle to join up nd go out there nd i jus find it out of order
No worries mate, i can see where your coming from, but my job is go around fliming and photographing the war zones so the people back home really know what a good job the lads are doing.
that fucking sound will haunt me forever I think - I'm not sure which was worse, that eerie silence after the alarm stops for a second and you hear phalanx engaging, or just waiting for the impact. We called the stretch where the RAF lines were Rocket Alley! Well done for making it through OK
i lived next door to Trenchard (RAF) Lines, further up rocket alley. Its when the phalanx tracer fire is crossing over head that we started to worry. 4 months and not one hit in our lines!!!!!!!
@rossw1980 shit I remeber when them RAF regiment got killed that day I was down brigade hq that was shit!
abon5838 2 weeks ago
Get that bed space cleaned up :-)
The Cob still has not changed to this day with all the yanks on here, still getting some mortors just not as many
matt51120 5 months ago
@matt51120 good to hear it, last tour I did my rocket count was 679 in 4 months !
simoneywymney 5 months ago
@simoneywymney DAM, it was bad when I was there but nowhere as bad as that!!
xrayhead 3 months ago
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pickledpenis 8 months ago
@trogers, fuck off you yank prick. Lets tal about blue on blue shall we?.............thought not. The whole world would be safer if you fuckers could identify friend from foe.
pickledpenis 8 months ago
anyway, as you've been so mature and told me to eat dick I'm not going to continue this pointless exercise, the cob thing is obviously your iraq story and while the rest of your guys were fighting in bagdad and fallujah you were watching a computer screen in basra.
the fact you are on here crying that you weren't safe is what the JAM wanted, its all propaganda and you fell for it. peace bro!
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 lol no guy. the rest of my guys where sitting around not having anything to fire at cuz they already killed the mortar and rocket teams the first time. unlike the british who want to sit around and say "oiy! look, those blokes are setting up again to fire at us! lets not do a damn thing and maybe they will stop!"
u do a true diservice to ur country and the men and women that died in vein when u talk ur shit about not being safe. snap the fuck out of it. rockets killed people there.
R3cal 9 months ago
yeah just read thru most of the comments. basically everything ive said is on point. basra got slammed with rockets because brits wouldnt fire back...any other american fob we would fire back and get maybe 1-2 rocket/mortar attacks per month. the second thing i noticed was alot of rockets werent tracked or the cram didnt go off. when our radar got there we tracked ever damn rocket they threw at us. No idea why the british were there. they just put their lives and ours in danger
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal the cob got slammed because we couldn't fire back. most of the rails were set up on the edge of the city which was a no indirect fire zone. the reason a jet could hit them is because its direct fire not because it was a US one. i presuming you were one of Tommys mates and sat front left?
we were crippled by rules of engagement in Iraq but please stop referring to it as though it was the soldiers fault it was our goverments!
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 actually i wasnt a permanent resident in the ops room....i was there every now and then for this and that but we had direct contact with them because our system along with the others were so vital. we had the map that had all the clear fire areas and what not...and there were too many times that i tracked a round that came from a clear fire zone.
i do agree with u....it was the british government. but u guys had some shitty officers at that too. i met plenty of guys that were cool
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal British soldiers very rarely critisize their US counterparts so have some respect and stop being so arrogant
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 i mostly am referring to the higher ups like i said before there were alot of cool brits that even celebrated our 4th of july with us...imagine that. lol
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal just one more thing!!! that other radar you refer to was LCMR - you have that as well. You are right about the generator how the f***! the bloke at the gate with the pistol was an Iraqi soldier that didn't like having ID checked and was headbutted by the 2RW lad on the gate. and AGAIN we did fire back A LOT so get your facts right if fact if I remember the reason the paladins came was because we were firing back so much. i got a feeling your are that young nation guardsmen.
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 i completely forgot about the LCMR and u right on point with that....but the lcmr did very little to track anything...its meant for mortars and it did its job over in the palace. but one was set up downt he road from us...god knows why. I didnt hear that he got head butted...cheers to that. and as for the paladins...they didnt do anything either...cuz the powers that be with brits didnt let them. and if ur guns shot...it was in another direction as a show of force.
R3cal 1 year ago
@trogers671 OH and they shot our Excaliber round in the middle of no where?! i about shit myself when i heard that. we had the right grids for the counterfire but the brits offset it WAAAAAAY too much and it just hit nothing. an $80,000 gps guided artillery round wasted. absolutely no need for that. its CEP (circular error probable) is 66 ft. which is the largest radius recorded failure. and 92% of all the rounds that have been fired in iraq have landed within 13 feet.
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal Shit I remember that! Well we couldn't fire ours could we? we probably only had 2. lol
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 oh and for ur last comment about the kidnapping....i know of others like dudes dressed up in iraq uniforms going into latrines and kidnapping people..but one particular one was when a female almost got kidnapped on that looooong stretch of road heading to ..charlie camp? some camp out by the end of the runway by the fence..well the female was running in the morning but another male came up and scared the iraqi's off. after that everyone ran in pairs. a civ buddy almost got kidnapped
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal I'm sure with the female it was Iraqi Army and those attempted kidnapped on every single base in Iraq we were just lucky to let a SIED in. We learnt a lot from Iraq about not being robust and the US about being too robust. You can see that in AFG if you've been. its the other way round! Some fat Legal bloke used to have the final say in Basra and that was wrong,trouble with officers is they're too concerned about their careers.
trogers671 1 year ago
various set ups, 20mm explosive and trace.
simoneywymney 1 year ago
@simoneywymney Hey mate, Im US Army, sent down to fly ravens for u guys april 2007 timeframe. This video brought back some hellish memories, I was at Trenchard Lines, those damn Crams sucked at shooting those 240mm bastards down. It was a pisser to work and party with you guys.
mmmahhmmm 1 year ago
you guys are Lucky that Americans like playing with big machine guns, or a lot of you wouldn't be around anymore. Hoo Fucking Rah!!!
sargeantatarms 1 year ago
@sargeantatarms mate it was the british army controling c ram ,
american civilians were there for logistic support only.
And to be honest, it was a 50/50 success rate.
if they hit an incomming it didn't always explode and we'd still be hit buy the debris and then an explosion ! i speak from personal experiance of that.
one more point, c ram is a "self" protecting defence weapon.
There is no such thing as luck in Iraq. You either make it or you dont.
I came home with a medal and shrapnel.
simoneywymney 1 year ago
@simoneywymney hey man, I thought the c ram was of US design and construction? Which makes my point that many of your friends were saved by an American playing with a big machinegun.
sargeantatarms 1 year ago
@sargeantatarms ,
the system was designed by a german company and built by you americans for naval ship protection.
When I was in Iraq last C ram responded to a rocket attack ,it partially hit a 240mm rocket altering its tradjectory and comming down and exploding in a corrmeck with 4 in killing all of them.....no saving there , its nice to see the sky light up with c ram returning fire but I never felt completely safe untill I was in Kuwait waiting to go home.
simoneywymney 1 year ago
@simoneywymney doesn't the C ram use exploding shells? I know the CIWS on ships just uses armor piercing 20 mm rounds which are prolly more effective...
sargeantatarms 1 year ago
@sargeantatarms time delay exploding rounds.... because they arent fireing over water where the rounds can safely hit water and nothing else....exploding after a certain time period keeps them from hitting citys and shit on their way back down
R3cal 1 year ago
@simoneywymney it was 3 RAF Regimant that were unfortunatley killed then. the other rock was shot dead in an engagment. all from 1 sqn.
rossW1980 8 months ago
@rossW1980 regiment sorry
rossW1980 8 months ago
@simoneywymney I was there. the british didnt control cram...they just acted like idiots and put them near the chu's instead of on the perimeter. thats why it was 50/50. not to mention the shit that would come down on us after the rocket exploded. and they didnt fire back....otherwise we wouldnt have been pounded so much. and luck had nothin to do with that. brit politics at its best. AAAAAAAND> the brits radar was shit. it was the american radar that saved lives. urs shut down to heat
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal I did 3 tours there and the British DID control Cram , also cram is a self protecting system thats why it was set up were they were, to protect acom qtrs. and as for running around like idiots. apart from the US spec force team, which I worked with on my last tour,.It was you yanks that were the idiots. fucking about . making mre bombs wearing fucking bandanners like you were back in"nam".you lot couldn't work unless your were full of Gatorade you prick !
simoneywymney 1 year ago
@simoneywymney my friend u r hilarious. yes there was the giraffe...and there was some lousy other british radar... and they both shut down constantly. I was there from around march 07 to end of oct 07 and it was OUR AMERICAN MADE AMERICAN RUN RADAR that tracked each and every single round during that time. Q-37. since we were always up, it was our system that sent the cram the warning which sounded the alarm. and we even had our own artillery battery but brits wouldnt let us fire.
R3cal 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Oh and one more thing, WHAT american radar ? In three tours the only other radar was the giraffe and that wasn't american, and before you say, the AS90 are controlled by another type of system.
Try reading some of the other posts before commenting. It might not make you look as stupid as your comments imply .
simoneywymney 1 year ago
@simoneywymney spot on mate Giraffe is German and was ran by the FP Wing (RAF Regt )just like it is now in KAF.
I think people are confused between CRAM and Phalinx. 2 different things but i hate that gun because if the one in your protected area opened up you knew a rocket was inbound to your vicinity. 6 months of constant attacks took its toll on everyone however hard you think you are . R3cal- ironicly its american politics that is preventing us in afghanistan as i speak.
trogers671 1 year ago
@simoneywymney AND, we had to personnally secure our site and switch off on roving guard cuz the brits felt chain link fence was enough to keep people out. u guys had kidnappings... u had shit stolen...weapons...uniforms..ammo...GENERATORS. I remember a day when the brits aloud some dude that walked up to a gate entrance to point a gun at one of the british guards. U never fired back after a rocket attack. there is a reason basrah got hit with more rockets than any american fob... COMBINED
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal I worked in bde ops on telic 10 and you are right about CRAM being ran by Americans but that was just the central bit.CRAM is made up of lots of different things. Phalinx wasn't part of cram it was a standalone system BUT was controlled by Brits 10 Bty RA is be precise. we did fire back on the rocket teams but if you knew what you were talking about you would remember that most rails were on timers so there were no bods anyway.i you were there during 10 u wouldnt slag us off.
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 the timer thing was true for some. def not for all. we sent our data to our UAF counterparts and they had eyes on more times than i can count...shit..i was standing in the main ops room watching the brits just stare at the screen of the uav capturing a rocket team setting up again after their last launch. this is especially true for when we had the complex attack. we had to callin an american jet to drop a bomb on them. the brits would just not fire. some peace mission.
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal you are simplifying things to suit you.
trogers671 1 year ago
@R3cal sorry I keep seeing things. what kidnapping?
trogers671 1 year ago
@simoneywymney it also rained down debris cuz some british know it all moron positioned the phalanx cannons inside the camps....instead of way out on the parameter.
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal we(the British) didn't know! nor did you. we are an Army set up and trained for manoeuvre warfare not defending a large airport from rocket attacks by irregular troops but then again maybe we should have listened to you R3cal an NCO from the National Guard as you seem to know it all(in hindsight). Get a life sunshine its all over. I guarantee that was your 1 and only tour.
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 IF YOU SHOOT BACK AT ROCKET TEAMS THEY WILL EITHER A) DIE .... OR B) THINK TWICE ABOUT SHOOTING EVERY FUCKING DAY. every other american fob takes 1-2 rocket / mortar attacks per month. why? CUZ WE SHOOT BACK. yeah...i spent 7 months in basrah before our section got moved elsewhere....and its the fucking idiots that gave orders not to shoot that put my life in danger FOR NO DAMN REASON. so yeah i have a right to be mad. 1 15 month tour compared to ur panzy 4-6 month? eat a dick
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal haha, sore point???????? mate you're talking rubbish. Both Balad and Tallil used get hit all the time and they never fired back either. you know we DID fire back and how??? have you been doing it longer please explain. You yanks wont do night ops in AFG in case you wake up the women and children. bless xx.
i say again you're talking shit. Mr one tour. your life wasn't really in danger was it? i bet you never left camp REMF
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 U fireing back = int he opposite direction or wasting an $80k gps guided artillery shell. uh.... u keep saying one tour but i saw 3 sets of u brits come through....my one tour = 3 of ur vactions to beautiful basra. and my job was an artillery radar counterfire operator. which means if brits vs yanks happend again and u ACTUALLY shot a round at us....30 seconds later rounds would be raining down on that postion. u wouldnt have time to breath bud.... much less take cover or leave area.
R3cal 1 year ago
@trogers671 oh and ur tony blair is alive cuz of our radar..fucking unthankful brit. yeah..the rest of the radars were down due to heat durign the day when the rocket came in and blew up near his helicopter..luckily our radar set off the siren and he took cover. UR WELCOME. and when i left basrah i was doing convoys with the team that went into the cities to train the iraqi police and army. so yeah i saved lives one part of the tour..and went out and kicked some ass and trained troops the other
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal of course you did. goodbye
trogers671 1 year ago
@R3cal Bore off mate
RonFuckingBurgundy 10 months ago
@RonFuckingBurgundy love the name, by the way this R3cal is a bit of a cock.
simoneywymney 9 months ago
holy shit I lived in the room where this video was taken
drewyota 1 year ago
@drewyota I had to build those fucking rooms when i arrived out there.
3 weeks into the tour and we had to "stone henge" everything.
just got my corrmeck just right an all !!
simoneywymney 1 year ago
@simoneywymney yeah they probably look a little worse now. Its the last old living area in bas now. We got lucky they dropped rockets all around us but never on out living area, the C-ram got one right above us that would have hit us, I was outside the shower when i happened.
drewyota 1 year ago
@simoneywymney this was the most stupid idea of them all. we gave them the middle finger when they told us to *stone henge* our rooms. first of all there are huge hesco baskets around all the living quarters....if a 240....122....107 mm rocket hit inside of those hescos u r dead from the concusion. if it hits the overhead impact roof and sprays fire down on ur chu..and u have those stupid bricks up...from what we saw with movement ability ....u might not have a fast enough exit .
R3cal 1 year ago
@R3cal stop whining it was f*****g years ago. get your arse over to Helmand you'll soon forget about the COB you boring twat
trogers671 1 year ago
@R3cal stonehenge wasn't about the protection from the sides but exactly as you said-from above. thats why the steel plates and sandbags!!!! again mis-information by you.
We get it, you dont like us Brits and you should have run the British operation in Iraq. You are the greatest. Thankyou. Part timer. xx
trogers671 1 year ago
@trogers671 part timer? where the fuck r u guys getting the reference that i was national gaurd? im not some fucking weekend warrior.. and u wouldnt have to have protection from shrapnel if u postitioned the phalanx cannon right. and if u got hit dead on with a rocket on top of ur chu ur fucking dead. every american that has been doing this type of shit longer then ur punk ass army LAUGHED THEIR ASSES OFF when they saw photos of ur dumbass brick beds. and when they heard u wouldnt shoot back.
R3cal 1 year ago
I certainly remember that alarm. My heart skipped a beat when I first heard the video.
psykoc1own 1 year ago
@psykoc1own still raises the hairs on the back of my neck and i left 2yrs ago !
simoneywymney 1 year ago
God that alarm brings back evil memorys -.- Was there in 2007 from Feb to Aug. Had 467 Alarms and around 1200 impacts in that time. No idea where they get the stuff but they sure as hell are getting it.
Bofir 1 year ago
just left there too. I was in the laundry when that rocket hit. so glad to be gone. Fuck that place man. Basrah is no joke.
bigsalmeri1 1 year ago
just left there too. I was in the laundry when that rocket hit. so glad to be gone. F that place.
bigsalmeri1 1 year ago
Just left that fucking place, rocket hit the dfac like right before we left.
Spocktavian 1 year ago
@Spocktavian atleast you made out safe mate. i had a norrow escape when on guard one night. One rocket flew right over head skipped on the road opposite the tower and went through the doors of the building on the other side of the road and blew ! scary times
simoneywymney 1 year ago
My dad just transfered from Kuwait to Basra. I'm glad there isn't much fighting going on in Iraq any more.
tjrieves 1 year ago
@tjrieves Yup, its a different place at the COB now. I'm sure your dad will be ok.
Hope he like Americans place is crawling with them ! lol
simoneywymney 1 year ago
@simoneywymney Lol yeah they spread like wild fires.
tjrieves 1 year ago
Is that Cpl Killer shouting at 1min in?? lol
Reichsfuhrer1979 1 year ago
At least you had C-RAM and the Phalanx Guns. In the early days on the COB, the only warning we had was the Woosh or a bang from the impact! Easy life!!
SteeleyGTi 2 years ago
Yeah can beleive you as the phallanx didn't always detect incomming > Many a time that happened. Once while walking at night to the london gifts and NAAfi one hit the fresh concrete were the super Mes was going tobe built. No woosh or warning Just a fucking big bang ! scared the living shit out of me !
simoneywymney 2 years ago
@SteeleyGTi what is scary is when you are stood by a phalanx gun that starts engaging before the alarm goes off
jack5760 1 year ago
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SteeleyGTi 2 years ago
thats a goal keeper right?
AirSquirrel1 2 years ago
no, the guns returning fire are called phallanx
simoneywymney 2 years ago
@simoneywymney
thanks for the info!
AirSquirrel1 2 years ago
@simoneywymney hey how do they know when there is incoming? Just wait for the first one to land than hit the alarm?
capufool 2 years ago
The launch of rockets or motars are detected and triangulated by a listening system
simoneywymney 2 years ago
I was there XVIII ABN "GO ARMY" it's crazy to see and hear the video while I'm back safe at home now...... those were the days..
LimeLightEntLLC 2 years ago
You really get used to all the booms and sirens after a while. I was one of four US Marines on the COB. You British sure do get your knickers in a wad when those alarms go off don't you?
DUNCANIRAQ 2 years ago
That's scary. My heart is pounding just watching the video.
callmond 2 years ago
Thank god for the C-RAM countermeasures, it lets you know that you are somewhat safe. The only feeling that arose when i hear this is that "Will it come through my roof".
rysnyper50002 2 years ago
I do love a good bit of cram action ! my other video is of me firing cram on a test fire ! power of one finger !!
simoneywymney 2 years ago
Every time that alarm went off in the night I used to pull my bed sheet closer and roll over . what annoyed me the most is you couldn't hear the imcomming rounds/ rockets cause of that fucking noise.
bozimo1 2 years ago
i was in iraq and whoever says them attacks arent scary...well they obviously are lying out of there teeth!!
gaz392 2 years ago 10
I must admit , it was that time between the alarm sounding and the 1st impact that bugged me .just waiting... and waiting .. then a fucking almight bumf ! and bits of metal flying everywere ! scarey really isn't quite doing the experiance justice. more like " fucking wholly fucking bollox ! "
simoneywymney 2 years ago
@gaz392--agreed, never know where they are landing. fuckin hadji poon lavi aiming skills.
DCSD1417 10 months ago
ILL NEVER FORGET THAT ALARM !!!
bentley8682 2 years ago 14
nobody of us will
malik1211989 2 years ago
@bentley8682 hell naw nor that damn gun
kwaynehou 1 year ago
been there... heard that alarm.... heard the phalanx... seen that fucking cat sitting on top of the blast walls during incoming at jhf(i)... how the fuck has it not been fragged??
rossy2525 2 years ago
it use to make me wonder ? The jinglies would just wander about durring an attck. I remember lying face down in the dirt facing a group of jinglies (lorrie drivers) who were having tea and plying dominos while all hell broke loose in the skies. ther were just looking at me laughing. LOL
simoneywymney 2 years ago
I will do so pyjamaboy, Right after you go back to Iraq and get blown up.
snipey14 3 years ago
I definately believe you have balls, Running away from your country and all. Even if it's your parents choice. Go and join the army and die please, rid the world of your presence so we may live happily.
snipey14 3 years ago
If you love Iraq so much then fuck off back there. No one forced you to leave. And by the way, go on and join the army. I'll enjoy watching you cry like a girl when your beloved countrymen start shooting at you.
snipey14 3 years ago
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Yeah, because of people like you I'm a racist. Running to other countries to have a "better life" yet you fuck those countries up to.
snipey14 3 years ago
Only reason you speak those languages is because you're some immigrant fuck that sits around collecting welfare in someone elses country. Go fuck a goat retard.
snipey14 3 years ago
You fucking thick cunt. "gejunot" you have know idea have you , i speak 3 languages other than english and i speak Arabic you stupid ignorant fucking camel fucker.
Gejunot is arabic for girl by the way . prick no fuck off back to the desert .
simoneywymney 3 years ago
English talk funny ? at least we can speak english . "Bye yall" yanks make me laugh
simoneywymney 3 years ago
I'm RAF and we do 4 month tours.
simoneywymney 3 years ago
he sounds scotish
johngoundry86 3 years ago
thats because i am scottish
mountainherring 3 years ago
How long did the attack go on for, and how many rockets do you think were fired, I carnt wait to join up =]=].
kgas1212 3 years ago
durring this video 17 rockets came in.
simoneywymney 3 years ago
That noise still malkes me shit my pants! Look after yourself out there lads and ladies!
jaj56 3 years ago
Its not awesome mate.
matmoo1982 3 years ago
Awesome,Was there last year april to july and nearly 600 rockets hit, some metres away. one attack last only a few minutes but counted over 30 impacts, looking forward to going back in oct this year!
huliowaynio 3 years ago
no u didnt go there u loser! bit stupid sayin april to july, thts 3 months, nd the british forces are posted to Iraq and Afghanistan 6 months at a time always.
qwerty102938 3 years ago
I think i was there mate, yes the normal units do 6 months,I was out there 21 April to 25 July, Combat Camera Team only do three months at a time. I photographed 19 repats, took over 10,000 images, went on stacks of strikes ops, was even in a warrior that was hit by two roadside bombs killing the driver nad injuring the crew. So i'm not mistaken.
huliowaynio 3 years ago
dnt make me laugh mate, firstly if u rly were then u wouldnt feel the need to show off nd tell everyone about it, nd secondly 2 roadside bombs? if the drivers dead how did u hit the second bomb. even if the driver dint die first ive seen wat happens to a warrior nd it aint movable after a hit. GEEK STOP LYIN!
qwerty102938 3 years ago
You've got to be taking the piss, firstly i wasn't showing off. you questioned me not being there the some odd reason so i told you what i'd been through, secondly the warrior was contacted by two IED's first one fucked up the 30mm and the comms but didn't disable the warrior and we were contacted a short distance further down the road, killing our driver died LCpl Ryan "franky" Francis, 2 Royal welsh and injuring the crew. .
huliowaynio 3 years ago
I dont even know why i'm trying to prove to you that i was out there, my photographs with my name on are all over the place from that tour, i photographed the repats of nearly 20 brave young soldiers who died on telic 9 and 10 and no matter what the fuck you think i was there
huliowaynio 3 years ago
alrite m8 i believe u, jus askin coz theres so many dickeds hu take the glory off the service men nd women hu actually have the bottle to join up nd go out there nd i jus find it out of order
qwerty102938 3 years ago
No worries mate, i can see where your coming from, but my job is go around fliming and photographing the war zones so the people back home really know what a good job the lads are doing.
huliowaynio 3 years ago
m8 u got msn or nefin? im joinin regiment in january wanna find out bit more bou it innit
qwerty102938 3 years ago
Majority do 6 months, but can do 1 - 11 months with the british army in herrick and telic. get your facts right before you start bitching qwerty.
SC3110 3 years ago
I fuckng hate the sound of that phalanx.
Was out with 1 sqn When we lost the lads. Always in my thoughts.
Per ardua!
matmoo1982 3 years ago
it was a sad day for all of us out there, didnt think it would happen to our lines.
rossW1980 3 years ago
I shit myself just walking past it when it just moves on its own.
lea1mercian 3 years ago
when was this taken?
Was out there July-Nov 07, it was like that most nights when i first got there.
There was nothing worse than when the Phalanx beside the lines went off. And it usually missed the rockets
rossW1980 3 years ago
that fucking sound will haunt me forever I think - I'm not sure which was worse, that eerie silence after the alarm stops for a second and you hear phalanx engaging, or just waiting for the impact. We called the stretch where the RAF lines were Rocket Alley! Well done for making it through OK
threelayers2005 3 years ago
i lived next door to Trenchard (RAF) Lines, further up rocket alley. Its when the phalanx tracer fire is crossing over head that we started to worry. 4 months and not one hit in our lines!!!!!!!
britfor 3 years ago
ahhh i wondered what system that was.
johngoundry86 3 years ago