Victor Friedman is an Anti-Hellenic POS. Aside from constantly obfuscateing FYROM nationalists used to self-identify as Bulgarians, as side from hiding the US government itself used to claimn their was no such thing as an ethnic Macedonians, he lost the last shred of moral credibility when he started to pretending not to notice FYROM's change into "ancient Macedonians". The man is a hatefilled asshole.
@ozonv да брате грците..се цигани..црни....александар и филип никогаш еа да бидат црни цигани црнци...александар и филип се наша раса ариел венетска славјанка бела раса......со плави коси плаи очи ........и затоа не можат да биат црни хахаха поззззз
"It must be noted that the construction of a distinct Macedonian national identity is a relatively recent phenomenon even by Balkan standards. Its origins can be traced to the work of a small group of late nineteenth- and early twentieth -century intellectuals like Krste Misirkov, who in 1903 called for the "recognition of the Slavs in Macedonia as a separate nationality - Macedonians" (Misirkov 1974:73).
"At this time, however, the majority of the Slavic-speaking inhabitants of Macedonia were illiterate peasants with no clearly developed sense of national identity see Friedman (1975). "
Actually Greek has b een spoken in an UNBROKEN chain leading all the way back to antiquity. Our language is clearly derived from Koine Greek... the language of ancient macedonians. This is quite unlike your Bulgarian dialect the communists renamed Macedonian in 20th century (which victor glosses over). The roots of your language started over a 1000 years AFTER alexander.
"The obviously plagiarized historical argument of the Macedonian nationalists for a separate Macedonian ethnicity could be supported only by linguistic reality, and that worked against them until the 1940s."
well-known linguist and expert in the world.. Linguistics Director Professor (Victor Friedman)
Say that is Macedonian language :)))))
MACEDONIA LANGUAGE TODAY
FRIDMAN SAY MACEDONIA LANGUAGE ..IS NOT BUGARIA LANGUAGE ..NOT SERBIA LANGUAGE NOT GREEK LANGUAGE....FRDMAN SAY MAKEDONIA LANGUAGE IS ONLY MACEDONIA LANGUAGE MUAHHHHH BRAVO DOKTOR FRIDMAN
You can rename Bulgarian "Chinese' too. It still will never match the GREEK writing on ancient macedonian artifacts. You are the only ethnic group on earth that hates the language and culture of your own claimed ancestors.... GREEK.
Why do you use non-Macedonian names like "Solun" rather than authentic original Macedonian names like Thessaloniki? Why don't you want to speak the language of ancient macedonians... Greek? Why don't you self-identify as Greeks like ancient Macedonians did?
Ancient Macedonians loved hellenism. FYROM nationalists hate hellenism. Ergo - FYROM nationalists are ANTI-Macedonians.
@macedonian326bc Gemisto is mentally incapable of incorporating information, or perhaps a Greek robotic proganda, programmed to spread the Greek anti-Macedonian propaganda.
"... Until a modern Macedonian literary language was mandated by the socialist-led partisan movement from Macedonia in 1944, most outside observers and linguists agreed with the Bulgarians in considering the vernacular spoken by the Macedonian Slavs as a western dialect of Bulgarian." Dennis P. Hupchick, "Conflict and Chaos in Eastern Europe 1995
In other words in the 19th century friedman says you were ILLITERATE PEASANTS with no sense of national identity (and that's words coming from someone you promote as a supporter)
Friedman is a Greek-hating lying sack of something warm and smelly. He well knows FYROM's language used to be considered a Bulgarian dialect until the communists modified it.
The funny thing is all the Greek-haters plans to erase Greeks has backfired in their faces now that FYROM iserasing their own ethnic Bulgarian roots and Hellenizing themselves.
@GemistusPletho THANK YOU!!! macedonian is still truly a bulgarian dialect mixed in with some serbian left over from when serbia invaded and told the bulgarians they couldnt speak their own language anymore or theyd be killed! macedonians are bulgarians!!!
It's true. Yugoslav communists oppressed their Bulgarian ethnic roots (as Tito feared Bulgarian influence and used it to threaten Macedonia Greece). Now if you can only convince the Bulgarian government to start calling them FYROM so we can end this nightmare for all of us. Macedonia for Greeks. Paeonia for Bulgarians.
The official language of citizens of FYR of Macedonia is group of slavic languages and it has no link to the antic macedonian language which is different and it has nothing in common with slavic languages...
Antic macedonians are not greek, but also they are not slavic :)
Slavic people have occupied the territory of antic macedonians around 500 A.C.
The official language of citizens of FYR of Macedonia is group of slavic languages and it has no link to the antic macedonian language which is different and it has nothing in common with slavic languages...
You can stand next to a Serbian,Bulgarian,Croatian any other slavic branch nation and have a nice conversation.Simple as that.So US citizens speak american not english?LIERS,THIEVES OF HISTORY,you are eyeing openly parts of our established lands within borders all over,please come and get them.ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Macedonians are ancient folk.Slavs came to Macedonia,but they were assimilated by the ancient Macedonians..after that Macedonians made firs alphabet "Glagolitic",later it was modified to "Cyrillic" alphabet AND ALL THAT WAS MADE BY THE MACEDONIANS. Later our neighbors copy us and took many parts of our culture and say it was slavic. But it is all OURS!
Greek don't cry because you are not Macedonians! You still have part of Macedonia,that belongs to us!We'll take it back.That is why u should cry!
@miki1dr Ancient Macedonians were Greeks. You claim you are not Slavs but ancient Macedonians. So, your ancestors were Greeks, so you are Greek. Maybe start thinking to be part of Greece. Greek language is difficult but you could give it a try.
Macedonian language is:
NOT Greek
NOT Bulgarian
NOT Serbian
NOT Albanian
It is a language unique and called Macedonian.
Macedonian language is recognised by the EU in 1977.
TheMakGreat 2 days ago
Well done Victor Friedman!
TheMakGreat 2 days ago
@bulgarin326bc
You don't even know what victor says about your identity in his writings.
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
Victor Friedman is an Anti-Hellenic POS. Aside from constantly obfuscateing FYROM nationalists used to self-identify as Bulgarians, as side from hiding the US government itself used to claimn their was no such thing as an ethnic Macedonians, he lost the last shred of moral credibility when he started to pretending not to notice FYROM's change into "ancient Macedonians". The man is a hatefilled asshole.
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
I am Polish-Ukrainian and I understand 95 % of what he is saying.
Brilliant !
ozonv 8 months ago
@ozonv да брате грците..се цигани..црни....александар и филип никогаш еа да бидат црни цигани црнци...александар и филип се наша раса ариел венетска славјанка бела раса......со плави коси плаи очи ........и затоа не можат да биат црни хахаха поззззз
macedonian326bc 2 days ago
Нищо не му разбрах, шо ке правим сега :)
vekilev 11 months ago
@vekilev не требаш да разбираш и нема ни потреба и не релевантно твојето миленје..важно е што кажуваат експертите илингуистите,,,,
macedonian326bc 2 days ago
@bulgarian326bc
"It must be noted that the construction of a distinct Macedonian national identity is a relatively recent phenomenon even by Balkan standards. Its origins can be traced to the work of a small group of late nineteenth- and early twentieth -century intellectuals like Krste Misirkov, who in 1903 called for the "recognition of the Slavs in Macedonia as a separate nationality - Macedonians" (Misirkov 1974:73).
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
@macedonian326bc
@bulgarian326bc
"At this time, however, the majority of the Slavic-speaking inhabitants of Macedonia were illiterate peasants with no clearly developed sense of national identity see Friedman (1975). "
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
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macedonian326bc 2 days ago
@bulgarian326bc
Actually Greek has b een spoken in an UNBROKEN chain leading all the way back to antiquity. Our language is clearly derived from Koine Greek... the language of ancient macedonians. This is quite unlike your Bulgarian dialect the communists renamed Macedonian in 20th century (which victor glosses over). The roots of your language started over a 1000 years AFTER alexander.
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
@Bulgarian326bc
"The obviously plagiarized historical argument of the Macedonian nationalists for a separate Macedonian ethnicity could be supported only by linguistic reality, and that worked against them until the 1940s."
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
@GemistusPletho
@Gemistus ancient greek from 1821
well-known linguist and expert in the world.. Linguistics Director Professor (Victor Friedman)
Say that is Macedonian language :)))))
MACEDONIA LANGUAGE TODAY
FRIDMAN SAY MACEDONIA LANGUAGE ..IS NOT BUGARIA LANGUAGE ..NOT SERBIA LANGUAGE NOT GREEK LANGUAGE....FRDMAN SAY MAKEDONIA LANGUAGE IS ONLY MACEDONIA LANGUAGE MUAHHHHH BRAVO DOKTOR FRIDMAN
macedonian326bc 2 days ago
@GemistusPletho
@Gemistus ancient greek from 1821
is not important which time
The time now is important today...
Macedonian language exists......muahhhhh hehehehehe
macedonian326bc 2 days ago
@bulgarian326bc
You can rename Bulgarian "Chinese' too. It still will never match the GREEK writing on ancient macedonian artifacts. You are the only ethnic group on earth that hates the language and culture of your own claimed ancestors.... GREEK.
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
@bulgarian326bc
Why do you use non-Macedonian names like "Solun" rather than authentic original Macedonian names like Thessaloniki? Why don't you want to speak the language of ancient macedonians... Greek? Why don't you self-identify as Greeks like ancient Macedonians did?
Ancient Macedonians loved hellenism. FYROM nationalists hate hellenism. Ergo - FYROM nationalists are ANTI-Macedonians.
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
@bulgarian326bc
You love your Bulgarian language. You love giving your cities Bulgarian names. You love your Bulgarian culture. Ergo you are bulgarians.
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
@macedonian326bc Gemisto is mentally incapable of incorporating information, or perhaps a Greek robotic proganda, programmed to spread the Greek anti-Macedonian propaganda.
TheMakGreat 2 days ago
@TheMakGreat abe sto ti tekna sto zboruvas so mene na nagliski...abe ne ne e robot toj ..
bolen covek e toj zalosen pozzzz
macedonian326bc 2 days ago
@macedonian326bc Исто како типичен Грк е. И самите незнаат како да се нарекуваат повеќе, ментални заостанети се и не е чудно што пропаднаа.
TheMakGreat 2 days ago
@TheMakGreat Ти имаш нов профил дисајн ,,мени си го стариот дизајн по добро е ...
macedonian326bc 2 days ago
@macedonian326bc Секако ќе ги сменат на сите сега во Март без разлика што сакамне.
И мене ми се бендисува стариот дизајн повеќе, ама се навикнав и нановиот дизајн сега.
TheMakGreat 2 days ago
@bulgarian326bc
"... Until a modern Macedonian literary language was mandated by the socialist-led partisan movement from Macedonia in 1944, most outside observers and linguists agreed with the Bulgarians in considering the vernacular spoken by the Macedonian Slavs as a western dialect of Bulgarian." Dennis P. Hupchick, "Conflict and Chaos in Eastern Europe 1995
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
@GemistusPletho
@Gemistus ancient greek from 1821
well-known linguist and expert in the world.. Linguistics Director Professor (Victor Friedman)
Say that is Macedonian language :))))) puahhhhhh
macedonian326bc 2 days ago
@bulgarian326bc
In other words in the 19th century friedman says you were ILLITERATE PEASANTS with no sense of national identity (and that's words coming from someone you promote as a supporter)
GemistusPletho 2 days ago
Friedman is a Greek-hating lying sack of something warm and smelly. He well knows FYROM's language used to be considered a Bulgarian dialect until the communists modified it.
The funny thing is all the Greek-haters plans to erase Greeks has backfired in their faces now that FYROM iserasing their own ethnic Bulgarian roots and Hellenizing themselves.
GemistusPletho 1 year ago
@GemistusPletho THANK YOU!!! macedonian is still truly a bulgarian dialect mixed in with some serbian left over from when serbia invaded and told the bulgarians they couldnt speak their own language anymore or theyd be killed! macedonians are bulgarians!!!
123tikvaa 6 months ago
@123tikvaa
It's true. Yugoslav communists oppressed their Bulgarian ethnic roots (as Tito feared Bulgarian influence and used it to threaten Macedonia Greece). Now if you can only convince the Bulgarian government to start calling them FYROM so we can end this nightmare for all of us. Macedonia for Greeks. Paeonia for Bulgarians.
GemistusPletho 6 months ago
@GemistusPletho хахахаха stupid malaka
macedonian326bc 2 days ago
yes, it is neither serbian nor bulgarian, but soviet - made by order of Stalin ;)
thracianglad 1 year ago
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
clubhappyness 1 year ago
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Slavic people have occupied the territory of antic macedonians around 500 A.C.
FlorimIsmaili2010 1 year ago
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The official language of citizens of FYR of Macedonia is group of slavic languages and it has no link to the antic macedonian language which is different and it has nothing in common with slavic languages...
FlorimIsmaili2010 1 year ago
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Antic macedonians are not greek, but also they are not slavic :)
Slavic people have occupied the territory of antic macedonians around 500 A.C.
The official language of citizens of FYR of Macedonia is group of slavic languages and it has no link to the antic macedonian language which is different and it has nothing in common with slavic languages...
flo77is 1 year ago
You can stand next to a Serbian,Bulgarian,Croatian any other slavic branch nation and have a nice conversation.Simple as that.So US citizens speak american not english?LIERS,THIEVES OF HISTORY,you are eyeing openly parts of our established lands within borders all over,please come and get them.ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
jhngr 1 year ago
5*****
DedoNaum 1 year ago
Тоя не е наред. :(
SuicideBlue 1 year ago
As native Macedonian,
after your pathetic inhuman statements about defining Godliness, you tell me i must accept telling me who i am too. Just shut the fuck up, Man.
If there is one real truth in the world, is that of Classical Hellas,
Just become classical Greeks yourselves and solve your fucking complex about who is what.
Siriousl\y.
If you argue for too long, time will come and you will have to deal with SHARIA and you will have no fucking saying, at all.
wonderingworlds 1 year ago
Macedonians are ancient folk.Slavs came to Macedonia,but they were assimilated by the ancient Macedonians..after that Macedonians made firs alphabet "Glagolitic",later it was modified to "Cyrillic" alphabet AND ALL THAT WAS MADE BY THE MACEDONIANS. Later our neighbors copy us and took many parts of our culture and say it was slavic. But it is all OURS!
Greek don't cry because you are not Macedonians! You still have part of Macedonia,that belongs to us!We'll take it back.That is why u should cry!
miki1dr 1 year ago
@miki1dr
type "argead dynasty" at your google search, you will have all the answers you need to know
2005defender 1 year ago
@miki1dr Ancient Macedonians were Greeks. You claim you are not Slavs but ancient Macedonians. So, your ancestors were Greeks, so you are Greek. Maybe start thinking to be part of Greece. Greek language is difficult but you could give it a try.
UNKLION 1 year ago
This is funny. Ofc it's not bulgarian and serbian but it's slavic because FRYOM's are slavs so stop craping about 5000 years of tradition.....
svaroglo82 1 year ago 2
ahahahahahaha.... they will say now we are deaf...!
papagamias 1 year ago
jalko srbomanche plateno .Lier!!!!
Playboytaxi 2 years ago
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Ooooo bravo bravo
Balkance 2 years ago