What Happened To Jim Limber After the Civil War?

[unitasetmagus]

That's much better, i can actually read the text now.

[CAPISHIE]

oh and lee and jackson was in the union army but left like all the rest so fuck heads like you film one can fuck up people heads you need so much help pay all your hard money you work for and pay all them high taxes but the main thing is you need pro help you sick man

[CAPISHIE]

FILMCRITICONE you are a sad sick fuck that needs help you have no idea bu to think that you need so much help you sad little man

[SteamboatPolar]

Lee never claimed the Norris letter was false, though he wrote about them to his son.

Everything in the NOrris letter is validated perfectly by Lee's own account books. Norris mentioned jails on certain dates, and certain bounty hunters -- each one perfectly matched Lee's own account books. Now how the fuck could that escaped slave get into Lee's books ? Lees own recent biographer said the Norris letter is "unquestionably accurate"

[FilmCriticOne]

Yeah what happened to Linder? Sure as fuck the Davis never looked for him. Davis and his wife abused the boy. He was very likely Davis own biological son from a slave rape. Davis never adopted him.

If Davis loved this boy like he was his own, why the FUCK didn't he lift a finger the rest of his life to locate him? My guess if Linder walked into Davis room, Davis would run like the pussy that he was, like he ran from Richmond, like he ran in GA and was caught in a woman's dress

[machinator1971]

@FilmCriticOne - You are a complete douche that has no understanding at all. Go jerk-off to Brittney Spears videos loser.

[JohnieReb7]

@FilmCriticOne I suggest you read a history book. Of course Davis did not want to be caught for fear he might be hanged...... after all the union government and union troops were full of crooks and I know what I am talking about because I have studied this war for 20 years.... Davis wasn't in a dress when aprehended, he was suffering from a chill and his wife put her shawl around his shoulders to help keep him warm. They did look for "the boy" and his name was Jim LIMBER, not Linder stupid

[JohnieReb7]

@JohnieReb7 OOPS.... It could be that I replied to the wrong person and that "ain't" hard to do here. At any rate who ever said Jefferson Davis was wearing a dress ..... You Are Wrong. Do you not know a dress from a shawl?

[FilmCriticOne]

Davis wife wrote a letter to the Blairs that surfaced 50 years later.. SHe also tells how Davis got rid of his escorts, and looked like a woman to escape detection.  Remember, Davis ran from Richmond like a pussy to begin with -- leaving the citizens with no defense. When caught, Davis was a pussy -- his own wife had to defend him After the soldiers made him take off the dress -- and was in handcuffs, Davis tried to play the bad ass. But he was one big pussy,

[rms3]

@FilmCriticOne You are one sick puppy. Apparently your mind has been so warped by anti-Southern hatred you have lost touch with reality. Tell the orderlies they need to up your meds, tighten the straightjacket another notch and limit your access to the internet in the padded cells. In the meantime, I have a Sons of Confederate Veterans meeting to attend tomorrow; I'm grateful we have real heroes to commemorate as opposed to your pathetic lunatic ravings.

[FilmCriticOne]

RMS who are your heroes? They myths you made up?

There were many brave men in the South -- that's true. They fought AGAINST the slave raping religous lunatic Taliban like scum that was the Confederate leadership.

Did you know over 300,000 Southern men FOUGHT FOR THE UNION? They were brave --- you should honor them.

[FilmCriticOne]

Lee had his tongue half way up Davis colon. . In fact, that's the reason Davis chose Lee -- most of the real generals (Lee had never seen combat, had never led men in combat, he was an engineer) would not flatter Daivs like Davis wanted. Davis was an egomaniac, and Lee suck up to him shamelessly. Johnston and Beuregard detested Davis -- they and Jackson were your best generals.

In the end, even the people of the South hated Davis, they refused to put him up during his pussy run.

[xtremejohnny69]

@FilmCriticOne Ok only thing I can really say it that Lee was asked to serve for the union but, after careful thought, denied the position and took up arms for the confederacy. Many of the great west point grads ended up fighting for the confederacy.

[FilmCriticOne]

Davis was not known to be especially cruel to slaves -- -but that's just because his slaves did not leave letters behind. We know Davis bought and sold children, and was part of the terror and torture class.

But Davis was caught -- literally -- in a dress, while he was running like a pussy. He also personally had the remaining gold from Confederate soldiers charity fund. His own wife confirmed he was in disquise as a woman, in a letter still available online today.

[FilmCriticOne]

Lee wrote about the Norris letter -- never denying one word of it. He just said the are trying to ruin my legacy..

Norris was just one slave -- who could write. And his letter survived and was printed at the time. Most slaves of course could not write. But we know that virtually EVERY slave Lee inherited hated him for his cruelty and ran away -- despite the huge risk to their lives. Why did the young women slaves run We know he sold their infants, but did he fuck them too? Probably.

[FilmCriticOne]

Lee's own letter to his wife show he was trying to convince her that God intended slavery to be cruel and painful -- to teach blacks their place. Oh yes -- he said they should pay for an eventual end to their pain -- in 2000 years. Got that - meanwhile, for 2000 years, man can not even try to complain about slavery, it's from GOD. Owning other humans, whipping them, selling the infants, is a "spiritual liberty" according to sociopath Lee.

[SteamboatPolar]

If Lee was so great to his slaves --- why did virtually all of them rebel and run away before the Civil War? WHy was he paying huge bounties to find and whip slaves? Why did Lee keep a hunting list of slave women he most wanted captured?

Why did Lee frequently sell the infants of his slave women --- though he was barred from selling the women (girls) by terms of the will? Why did he scream at women while he had them tortured?

[FilmCriticOne]

@rms3 Sorry dumb fuck -- according to Lee's own biographer, Elizabeth Pryor, who ADORES Lee, the letters about Lee whipping slave women and screaming at them is "unquestionably accurate". She validates the Norris letter down to the last period.

Norris mentioned specific bounty hunters, specific dates, specific jails, EVERY one of which showed up in Lee's personal account book on THOSE dates. Go read "Reading the Man" by Pryor.

Lee was a child whipping lunatic

[FilmCriticOne]

@rms3 No evidence -- are you fucking retarded? Lee's own account books shows he paid bounty hunters six TIMES the ordinary fee to capture one slave girl. Lee had a whipping post installed near his house dumb fuck. Lee's own papers, in his own fucking handwriting, shows he kept a "hunting list" of young slave women he most wanted captured.. His own account books show the validity of the Norris letter dumb fuck.

[FilmCriticOne]

@rms3 Lee was an especially cruel slave owner dumb fuck. Much worse than most slave owners of his social class. Few of his class, for example, sold infants. Lee sold them regularly. Few of his class whipped young women -- Lee screamed at young women while they were being tortured.

This is typical of Southern "history" generally. You fucks have taken true scum, and tried to make them into heroes. Too bad for you fucks the truth is coming out.

[rms3]

@FilmCriticOne Yeah, that's a pretty convincing argument coming from a lunatic who posts under multiple aliases on the same topic on the same video. The fact that he may have hired a bounty hunter to recover a runaway slave is NOT evidence that he abused the slaves in any way. I find Freeman more credible than any of your supposed sources. You run around on these websites like some deformed, mutant pygmy urinating on the feet of noble giants like Lee and Davis. Any comments on Mack Lee?

[FilmCriticOne]

Freeman? That fucking clown was pathological you retard. He set Lee up as some sort of Christ figure you dumb fuck. ANd he said Lee freed his slaves in 1847 retard. He was insane.

We know Lee was still selling babies in 1860 dumb fuck. We know Lee was whipping slave girls. We know Lee had a whipping post installed and hired specialist to whip slave girls while he screamed at them.

Lee and Davis were both personal cowards. The fact is your two main heroes were pieces of shit.

[rms3]

Hey NawwLeans (your sobriquet is as fake as your fairy tale history), here is a quote from Rev. Wm. Mack Lee, who was Robt. E Lee's slave during the war, "I was raised by one of the greatest men in the world. There was never one born of a woman greater than Gen. Robert E. Lee, according to my judgment." How do you reconcile that with your ludicrous slander of Lee and Davis?

[SteamboatPolar]

@rms3 Here is a quote from Lee's slaves "he was the meanest man I ever seen"

For some reason, virtually EVERY slave Lee inherited rebelled against Lee, and ran away, at huge risk to their lives. Even though they would be whipped, tortured, maybe killed for it, they ran away. None of them had run away before.

I know about Mac Lee -- and doubt he ever said that. You fucks have made up more shit about Lee than can be counted. 90% of what you fucks claim about Lee is pure bullshit

[NawwLeans]

You don't have to be a genius to know slavery was cruelty -- even you dumb fucks know that power corrupts. The power of slavery corrupted absolutely dumb fuck. These slave owners could rape, torture, abuse, sell, butt fuck, and kill at their whim. Thats power dumb fuck. A slave owner who had a hard on for it, could rape little boys, or any other thing. They sould sell babies, burn to death men who fought back. Anything.

That's power dumb fuck -- and power corrupts dumb fuck.

[rms3]

@NawwLeans Like I said, you are one sick, twisted, pathological liar. Also, you seem to be some kind of raving lunatic/psychopath who posts multiple messages in the space of a few minutes when someone like me calls BS on your phoney-baloney history.

You still haven't explained why Davis's slaves sent the condolence message nor why over 80% of the personal remembrances in the WPA Slave Narratives are positive. Let me know when you develop at least a 6th grade reading level and read them.

[NawwLeans]

What you dumb fucks have done is collect a select few quotes from brown nosing servants - many of whom helped their master torture and terrorize the other slaves.

Instead of reading that trash -- read the first person accounts of the slaves and the owners who admitted the torture.  Read the letters and diary of the Texas woman who had slaves. Most slaves of course were not allowed to write diaries - or anything else. But we have enough to know the insane cruelty that went on regularly.

[NawwLeans]

We have repeated testimony by slave OWNERS dumb fuck -- George Mason, for example, a major slave owner, said slavery turns every gentleman into a tyrant, a hatefu. Go read his full speech dumb fuck -- here is part

[Slavery is a] slow Poison, which is daily contaminating the Minds & Morals of our People. Every Gentleman here is born a petty Tyrant…. And in such an infernal School are to be educated our future Legislators & Rulers.

Slavery turned scum like Lee in dual personality devils.

[NawwLeans]

If you don't understand that slavery was about terror - you don't know shit.  You should read the thousands of first hand accounts of slaves, during slavery. Read the stories by the men who turned against slavery because of what they saw.. Like the guy who saw four old slave women dragged to their death, because the owner couldn't get the local sherrif to kill them, so he could get paid.

[rms3]

When Davis died in 1889, many messages of sympathy were sent from former slaves. From his Miss. plantation at Briarfield, the former slaves...sent the following message of condolence: “We, the old servants and tenants or our beloved master, Hon. Jefferson Davis, have cause to mingle our tears over his death, who was always so kind and thoughtful of our peace and happiness”

NawwLeans - you are one sick, twisted, pathological liar.

[NawwLeans]

RMS dumb fuck --- every slaver had slaves he let suck his dick, do his dirty work, whip the other slaves. Of course dumb fuck -- slaver owners did torture every slave.

They tortured, whipped, killed enough so that some WANTED to obey, wanted to brown nose. Dumb fuck -- if you were a slave, you'd probably be sucking the shit from your owners ass, in order not to be whipped.

[NawwLeans]

@rms3 We have the testimony of Lee's slaves, and his papers, that Lee whipped young women -- and screamed at them during their torture. Get the picture dumb fuck? Who in their right mind screams at a young woman while he has them tortured?

I don't know of any slave writings about Davis torturing them. But the THREAT of torture was always there --- and carried out enough for the slaves to obey.

Read a book called "Diary of a rebel wife" to see how common whipping was.

[USAURULES]

bullshit

[cghgrn123]

still so much hate toward the south

[NawwLeans]

Limber was probably Davis son by raping slaves.

Slave rape was extremely common -- and profitable. Typiclly the owner sold his own daughters from raping the mother, into slavery of course, but often into whore houses if they were light skinned.

Some times they kept a son from slave rape -and of course they couldnt tell their wife it was a natural son from rape.

Davis got fabulously rich seling "nigger" children - he just kept this one longer. Probably was his son.

[stealthgerm]

whats the correct version of lynchings???north and south did it ,but how did the south justify it?

[NawwLeans]

Lynchings were very common if the slave rebelled -- that is -- fought back. In fact, it was the LAW.

The owner would be re-imbursed for the value of the dead slave, most southern states paid for lynched or burned to death slaves.

The idea was to terrorize the slaves that saw it. And it worked.

Violence was REQUIRED to get, keep, sell, threaten, and punish slaves. Without extreme violence slavery doesnt exist dumb fuck.

[stealthgerm]

being legal and mandated makes it a justified thing? is that an argument for moral justification?

does what you say give reason why segregation existed ?give reason to even to in this day and age why predjeduce is till with us?laws have changed ethics and morality have changed so does that justify the concept that slavery was and is wrong.

[FreeLunchTax]

prejudice is with us for many reasons dumb fuck, I dont give a shit.

Im talking about the slave raping child molesting Southern Scum sucking pigs.

Got that dumb fuck? I'm exposing the slave rape, the child molesting, the whippings, the reilgious justification for all that crap.

You go play in the sand about "segregation" dumb fuck, Im tlking about slavery idiot[

[rms3]

@NawwLeans That is an outright lie and you know it. Lynchings during slavery were almost unheard of and were certainly not sanctioned by the law. Try reading the WPA Slave Narratives some time you foul mouthed moron. About 85% of the former slaves interviewed comment favorably on their masters and upon their treatment as slaves, you detestable liar.

[NawwLeans]

Torture, was COMMON dumb fuck. Slavery was a terrorist act

Read Diary of Rebel Wife -- read any of the thousands of first person written acounts by slaves at the time. Lee himself used torture on his slaves regularly dumb fuck. Laws in the South mandated whippings --- thats right idiot, it was a law you HAD to whip slaves for offenses -- kill them for rebellion. See "Reading the Man" -- about Lee, he seemed to delight in whipping women, and one excuse was, well it was law you had to.

[rms3]

@NawwLeans Unlike you, who can only seem to spout crude profanities in lieu of actually being able to compose an argument based on facts and reason, I actually have read several first hand accounts by both slaves and masters; enough to know that you are just fabricating nonsense out of thin air for your childish purpose of slandering the South. You should actually read something about the topic yourself; there are books available written at a retard learning level.

[Eribear492]

this is gay

[EducatedRebellion101]

You are an obvious moron who cares nothing about truth, the same way political correctness pimps your simple uneducated mind. All you can say is "gay", how immature and pathetic BOY, grow up and come back when you have an education.

[owensaruba]

War between the states, that is what it was called, no?

Internally from within the union it was an international war. Externally, from say England, it was a civil war.

Great videos!

[Luigi84289]

It was a war between 2 governments. The south created it's own government and army just like the confederacy of 1776.

[madtal]

Jeff Davis was wrong about a lot of things, but he was also human. There apparently were strong feelings of compassion & affection for Jim Limber.

Be that as it may, you should know that Limber was occasionally referred to as "pet" by the Davis's & their friends.

Also, according to Mrs. Davis, at the time of their capture the family recognized one of the Union officers (a General Saxton) as an old friend, and asked that he take charge of the boy & provide for his education.He was not kidnapped.