I'm not gonna lie to you, i almost never write a post in a video, but with you... mi god! thank you very much! i saw before many fools "teaching" spin, but only you did it, really. Congratulations for your teachs and thank you again.
you people always have to complain about something lol michael went through alot of pain and suffering and he still danced and lived up till this day so why can't you just sit down and watch the man here show you how to do a simple spin...atleast he repeats himself unlike the other people that make you have to keep clicking back lol
@sexocity123 Mj is still alive through us his fans although he has gone to a better place. We will allow him to live through our love and our dedication.
Michael Jackson was a lefty so if you are right-handed, you ARE going to do MJ's moves on the opposite side. I do it on the opposite side too so don't feel bad. Check out SynClair dances like MJ video. It was during halloween and was my first attempt. (I kick with the wrong leg. :( )
@synclair0718 no he was a right-handed person he just did some stuff on his left cause he knows most people can't do it thats why he mastered most moves
@akonKonvicted15 Wow! I'm right handed too. But yeah, Mj was definitely a genius and I'm still working on trying to perfect his moves. He is the greatest entertainer of all time and will continue to live through us.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE someone HELP me i know how but when i do it HOW DO I KEEP MY BALLANCE i always trip or something PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKYOU
Practice and patience is the key. I tried to start off doing at least 3 spins at tornado speed. BIG MISTAKE (and I have the scar to prove it).
This video is perfect for learning the form of the spin, but I learned balance from practicing one spin at a time only on one foot. When I got comfortable with one spin, I tried 2 spins and so on.
It's frustrating at first, but when you DO your center of gravity on point, it's worth it!! My record to date is 4 spins.
OMG i was so exited in a week or 2 im getting penny loafers like mjs and i got DOWN THE SPIN NOW YAY!!!BUT now i realize that not only does mj spin on his front toes but the heel of the loafers are rubber and i have wood floors so it will stick and i will fall flat on my face (incase u didnt notice yet i spin on my heel forgot to write) so now i gotta practice on my toes i tryed in my socks already im ok but i can BARELY DO 1!!! is it easier in shoes?(that you could spin in u know?)hope i ...
how do u know the soles of his are rubber? i think the bottom of his shoes are leather.. that allows him to slide about. Think about it.. the stage is made of wood.. how would he slide with rubber soles?
get it i just like sometime to like try to performe infront of my mom or something while playing billie jean or beat it or thriller or something ya know or sometimes (ok ok most of the time)i just spin for practice nyway hope and pray i finally get 3 or more done on my toes in the loafers thanks lol
its easy if you practice but i have an easier way just spin on the heel of your shoe and i dont mean shoes with spikes i mean on the hell of any shoe unless its rubbed out or just plain hard u may not know what i mean
haha um yeah c im not good at spinning cuz like i get scared that im gunna bump it to something XD. but yeah now i know that when u spin its toe to heel so im gunna keep on practicing til i break everything in the house :P
i've doing this move ever since i was 5, now i can do it up to 2 to 3 sec. really fast and do the tippy toes on the top of my 2 big toes. i would record it but my web cams actin all screwy lol
I have watched every video known to man to try to get the exact mechanics of this spin down and this is the only one that has done it for me. Great job man! Especially when you accentuate the fact to use your left toe in the spin, which I was failing to realize from any other video. Thanks a lot man!!!
like u r using your left leg to spin...then your right leg should support your left leg to spin it...your right leg should not touch the floor...use your old socks for training...
lol nothing against the video but i watched this video mroe then 20 times and i still cant get the spin down any body got any tips on wat i might be doin wrong i tuck my right leg behingd my left like this guy does but i always end up faliing
i just spin my whole body around but not in a circle like as if u were spining in a circle then do the spin becuase that can lead to an early grave lol. or somebody next to u's early grave. anyway i just spin my arms and waist all the way behind me and just spin it all the way to the other side of my body and let my feet free of the ground so there not so grippyso i dont break my ankles haha. stay balanced though or else...thats all i need to say lol.
wait, what are you talking about? this guy isn't trying to do the most spins he can, he's trying to show us slowly how to do it, if you think his spinning is bad its because he's not trying
i aint being nasty but who cares if u can do it better than him we were all bad when we all started learning the spin and this video has been on here for a long time so he has probably gotten better by know theres no need to post horrable comments like that is there how would u like it if u put a video on here and i said u suck appreciate other peoples feelings thats all i,m saying and u r probanly gonna reply to me and say stuff like "fuck u" but i dont care i,m just making a point
you put your one foot over the other with your heel, but other people do it the other way around, i.e. with the ball of their foot. so both can be done?
i "think" micheal put mutch power in his spin and is able to control the ballance and mut more power in the second turn where he´s spinning with 2 feet and change to a single feet :X
lol i thougt this would be about"micheal Jordan" on spin move. It took me 10 seconds of this is not spin move to realize it was micheal Jackson. Lmfao
when i was in elementary i did 9 spins and landed on my toe. yeah i am the best mj imatater. i will post some videos of me dancin on this site pretty soon, watch out now
best tutorial i've seen and i've seen alot that hardly make sence or do it completely wrong...
i used to just kick hard and wen my leg was on its way back i used that for kinda like a push n just stand on the ball of my other foot n let it spin me,
i dont get it cos when i spin i do a whole 360 but then my feet get tangled and how do i spin so my feet are always nxt to each other when im spinning more than 360?
hey buddy... i tried tht... no tangling o feet... in the video this guy shows tht u spin with the hell o rite foot n the tow of the left... no chance o getting entangled...guess u don keep them at the required distance... do some RCA man...
Finally I found a video thy makes it easier
MegaKeion 3 months ago
I cant spin 2 times! I cant see it at this video! :C
dzieckodisneychannel 4 months ago
shit, thought this was a basketball tutorial
danielceltics20 5 months ago
who can spin 2 or 3 times....?????
awawor 7 months ago
thnx dude.. but with this can i spin 3-4 times..?? plss reply
memyself93 1 year ago
I want to spin faster and better!!!
Super29041991 1 year ago
Easy
mjlyricsonline 1 year ago
michael jaxson rules hes the king of pop
05cardinals 1 year ago
@05cardinals if you had respect for michael jackson youd spell his name right
MrGand60 1 year ago 5
he left [finish the vid] bec. he was already DIZZY. go to the bathroom to vomit. xD
13zaidogreen 1 year ago
I get dizzy wen i do dis haha
Strawberrysunset23 1 year ago
wooo I wish i can do alot of spins at da same time aww hell YEAH i imagined it... NOW IM OFF TO PRACTICE
Strawberrysunset23 1 year ago
I'm not gonna lie to you, i almost never write a post in a video, but with you... mi god! thank you very much! i saw before many fools "teaching" spin, but only you did it, really. Congratulations for your teachs and thank you again.
jonathan2190 1 year ago
michael jakson style :D
aceroyal1997 1 year ago
You do it very right and slow, thanks for help :)
udisports 1 year ago
thank u so much man dat really helped
rajdancevid 1 year ago
Thats so hard
coolanthony8 1 year ago
hey this is the live one michael jackson did in yokohoma my favorite one and yea i perfected all of his moves plus his voice im still working on
akonKonvicted15 1 year ago
But Michael Jackson spins like a spinning top
MsCuriousCat 1 year ago
you people always have to complain about something lol michael went through alot of pain and suffering and he still danced and lived up till this day so why can't you just sit down and watch the man here show you how to do a simple spin...atleast he repeats himself unlike the other people that make you have to keep clicking back lol
akonKonvicted15 1 year ago
fanx for wasting my time u dik
MrKilllaboi 1 year ago
Nice audience.
No really, nuce vid.
tnx.
homatho 1 year ago
I dont wear leather, how the hell will I do that in public ?
Ghostbeyond619 1 year ago
cool
TheVideoMaker2010 1 year ago
This guy is MJ.He is still alive
sexocity123 1 year ago
@sexocity123 Mj is still alive through us his fans although he has gone to a better place. We will allow him to live through our love and our dedication.
synclair0718 1 year ago
Michael Jackson was a lefty so if you are right-handed, you ARE going to do MJ's moves on the opposite side. I do it on the opposite side too so don't feel bad. Check out SynClair dances like MJ video. It was during halloween and was my first attempt. (I kick with the wrong leg. :( )
synclair0718 2 years ago
@synclair0718 no he was a right-handed person he just did some stuff on his left cause he knows most people can't do it thats why he mastered most moves
akonKonvicted15 1 year ago
@akonKonvicted15 Wow! I'm right handed too. But yeah, Mj was definitely a genius and I'm still working on trying to perfect his moves. He is the greatest entertainer of all time and will continue to live through us.
synclair0718 1 year ago
Nice!!!!!!!!! :)
thealan110 2 years ago
i did a 5 spin in gym the other day it was cool
101laughter101 2 years ago
yeah. good!. but i wanna see more than one!
chicaLOKAporJCchasez 2 years ago
nice video, nice house, nice everything.. but i still can't do ittt!!! =((((( i keep falling down
Horseshowchamp 2 years ago
your pants are too long, just saying
americangirlrapper12 2 years ago 13
man, i'm retardad, i can't do that :S
LynFiredance 2 years ago 20
@LynFiredance haha.. omg! lol . funny
chicaLOKAporJCchasez 2 years ago
@LynFiredance if you can't do that so you are looser and pussy
Slimshadyfcb 1 year ago
@Slimshadyfcb Oh really? Thanks for warning me ;*
LynFiredance 1 year ago
@LynFiredance lolz XD keep trying
akonKonvicted15 1 year ago
Why is it that i have to spin with my right leg? and I also do the moves of Michael Jackson from the opposite side.
JIMex2010 2 years ago
@JIMex2010 You can also do it on your left leg, just look up michael jackson spin on left leg, and it will show you how to do it
ZAIRE119 2 years ago
You are good!!That helps me a lot!!!:D****
surerstar581995 2 years ago 2
ok your good i admit
americangirlrapper12 2 years ago 2
best tutorial I've seen so far !!
Pelleneo 2 years ago
summet i read is when you feel like your loosin your balance in the spin, STOP put your non supporting leg out on the floor as a brake :)
stephybabyxxx1 2 years ago
his soles are from wood
brinkomono 2 years ago
good tutorial
basilsami1 2 years ago
are they shoes slippery?
burtonngoc 2 years ago
the floor is slippery
Notyouisme 2 years ago
i get fucking dizzy of this xD
memeej9 2 years ago
que alguien me explique como hacer ese giro por que todos los hijos de putas lo saben hacer menos yo
ecana123 2 years ago
soy el unico patetico que no lo sabe hacer?¿
ecana123 2 years ago
si que lo eres
therockgodnes 2 years ago
its just easy but. it needs practice ..
backtrackx 2 years ago
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE someone HELP me i know how but when i do it HOW DO I KEEP MY BALLANCE i always trip or something PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANKYOU
thebigrigtrucker 2 years ago
lol i dont know either how to keep your balance=P when i finially knew how to do it the right way i almost fell and broke something lol
TheSlimShady1221 2 years ago
lol...i learned to do this somewhere with nothing breakable...but we can break a toe or leg :D so i guess u can't do anything about it :D
pinkygurl1999 2 years ago
I second that lol :) I'm guessing balance will come with practice
Tradewindrain 2 years ago
yes its the same with me i just begin to fall down like i had a booze or 10 after 1 spin or 2 XD
liu7 2 years ago
Practice and patience is the key. I tried to start off doing at least 3 spins at tornado speed. BIG MISTAKE (and I have the scar to prove it).
This video is perfect for learning the form of the spin, but I learned balance from practicing one spin at a time only on one foot. When I got comfortable with one spin, I tried 2 spins and so on.
It's frustrating at first, but when you DO your center of gravity on point, it's worth it!! My record to date is 4 spins.
Hope it helps. Good luck
ajxi23 2 years ago
OMG i was so exited in a week or 2 im getting penny loafers like mjs and i got DOWN THE SPIN NOW YAY!!!BUT now i realize that not only does mj spin on his front toes but the heel of the loafers are rubber and i have wood floors so it will stick and i will fall flat on my face (incase u didnt notice yet i spin on my heel forgot to write) so now i gotta practice on my toes i tryed in my socks already im ok but i can BARELY DO 1!!! is it easier in shoes?(that you could spin in u know?)hope i ...
thebigrigtrucker 2 years ago
how do u know the soles of his are rubber? i think the bottom of his shoes are leather.. that allows him to slide about. Think about it.. the stage is made of wood.. how would he slide with rubber soles?
vistaway3008 2 years ago
no i meant the heels of MY shoes but theyre special rubber that dont stick
thebigrigtrucker 2 years ago
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cheatonly2win 2 years ago
you are obviously an idiot, cheatonly2win
vistaway3008 2 years ago
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cheatonly2win 2 years ago
get it i just like sometime to like try to performe infront of my mom or something while playing billie jean or beat it or thriller or something ya know or sometimes (ok ok most of the time)i just spin for practice nyway hope and pray i finally get 3 or more done on my toes in the loafers thanks lol
thebigrigtrucker 2 years ago
Love the way you broke it down! Excellent tutorial :D
Oilcurls 2 years ago
i think you move both at the same time once you've created enough kinetic energy
scyllaandcharybdis 2 years ago
lol u must be dizzy by the end
Tinizel 2 years ago
you make it look easy
dcalex326 2 years ago
its easy if you practice but i have an easier way just spin on the heel of your shoe and i dont mean shoes with spikes i mean on the hell of any shoe unless its rubbed out or just plain hard u may not know what i mean
michaeljMMR 2 years ago
haha um yeah c im not good at spinning cuz like i get scared that im gunna bump it to something XD. but yeah now i know that when u spin its toe to heel so im gunna keep on practicing til i break everything in the house :P
filsk8ter 2 years ago
I cannot spin for nothing in the world, no
matter how hard I try! It's hard for me.
Oh well practice makes perfect! This is a great tutorial!
Thank you.
MichaelJacksonsMine 2 years ago
I love your spin,thx:):)
el7506 2 years ago
aaaaa, i cuold do almost every michael's basic move, except this one.... :((((( i watched every video showing how to spin and none had teached me...
bahataCro 2 years ago
do u need like non-grip penny loafers for that?
jenova52 2 years ago
its easier for me to spin on my heel instead
GanjaOnDeck 2 years ago
i have trouble spinning that spin. please teach me?
DeeAnnluvs2dance 2 years ago
just folow the vid dude not that difficult :P
pipinho114 2 years ago
which foot do you spin on?
kingster20 2 years ago
both
TheAnthonylopez 2 years ago
haha...starting to learn this move will lost balance and confuse...do it more
xXMoonWalk 2 years ago
i've doing this move ever since i was 5, now i can do it up to 2 to 3 sec. really fast and do the tippy toes on the top of my 2 big toes. i would record it but my web cams actin all screwy lol
kamarty 2 years ago
its easy just do on smooth surface i did 3 spins
zadamainia 2 years ago
I have watched every video known to man to try to get the exact mechanics of this spin down and this is the only one that has done it for me. Great job man! Especially when you accentuate the fact to use your left toe in the spin, which I was failing to realize from any other video. Thanks a lot man!!!
trueshowstoppa 2 years ago
I too am workin on this move. Gotta work on my balance.
crimsonadamantsabre 2 years ago
thnx 4 da tip.. ima try nd c if i can do it
oathkeeper941 2 years ago
i feel dizzy after one speen...
berker1988 2 years ago
I CAN'T DO IT!!!... and I feel dizzy...
dinobaldi 2 years ago
i tried too but i cant do it... got any better tip of how i can do ot?
oathkeeper941 2 years ago
like u r using your left leg to spin...then your right leg should support your left leg to spin it...your right leg should not touch the floor...use your old socks for training...
try it 1 round and 1 round...
wish u good luck...
xXMoonWalk 2 years ago 2
well then your explanation is different from the video...
adhuxley 2 years ago
lol nothing against the video but i watched this video mroe then 20 times and i still cant get the spin down any body got any tips on wat i might be doin wrong i tuck my right leg behingd my left like this guy does but i always end up faliing
TGreviews 2 years ago
i just spin my whole body around but not in a circle like as if u were spining in a circle then do the spin becuase that can lead to an early grave lol. or somebody next to u's early grave. anyway i just spin my arms and waist all the way behind me and just spin it all the way to the other side of my body and let my feet free of the ground so there not so grippyso i dont break my ankles haha. stay balanced though or else...thats all i need to say lol.
kamarty 2 years ago
this vid helps so much
Hasssurf6 2 years ago
terrible
viniciuskmax 2 years ago
wow its excellent
lntcol 2 years ago
wait, what are you talking about? this guy isn't trying to do the most spins he can, he's trying to show us slowly how to do it, if you think his spinning is bad its because he's not trying
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i can do better than this.....you suck.!....
myAIMiscpimpin64694 2 years ago
i aint being nasty but who cares if u can do it better than him we were all bad when we all started learning the spin and this video has been on here for a long time so he has probably gotten better by know theres no need to post horrable comments like that is there how would u like it if u put a video on here and i said u suck appreciate other peoples feelings thats all i,m saying and u r probanly gonna reply to me and say stuff like "fuck u" but i dont care i,m just making a point
bognorboy101 2 years ago
so the right foot u spin on the ball of ur foot.. and on the right u spin on ur heel? is that right?
meltdownpt 2 years ago
ballof left foot with right foot in the air next to it.
oyioyioi 2 years ago
thank you thank you, so u pretty much support or whole body on the ball of ur left foot? and the rest is just balance?
meltdownpt 2 years ago
pretty much. I have to admit I havne't mastered it yet myself...I always seem to lean forword for some strange reason
oyioyioi 2 years ago
very good! the best video teaching MJ's spin... =)
paulomccartney 2 years ago 2
sick
magicianmunar 2 years ago
you put your one foot over the other with your heel, but other people do it the other way around, i.e. with the ball of their foot. so both can be done?
lullemans72 2 years ago 2
one tip when u are teaching any kind of dancing dont show only legs because u cant see anything
zypero 2 years ago 2
Sick, I've always wondered how they spin twice. Time to go clubbin!
petephax 2 years ago 4
lol
sorealmusic11 2 years ago 2
i always lost my balance, one time i was able to do 2 spins... but now... none!!!! :(.....
Nainco07 2 years ago 2
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i can do 6! im a michael jackson fan and dancer
neomaster007 2 years ago
6???!!! we have to see that!!!
Nainco07 2 years ago 6
was that really Michael Jackson singing? he sounded really tired
Aamina15 2 years ago 3
no this is rehersing
Moonwalkers619 2 years ago
NO this is bucharest in '92
MJFanSinger 2 years ago 3
Yup... There are three methods of spin... Michael use dis method after moonwalk....... Anyways Nice video....
rakeshthemagicman 2 years ago
MJ does this in three ways, sometimes he even combines his spin with a jazz pirouette, his spins I can watch forever...
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padenconlon96 2 years ago
yeh i lose my balance too after 3 spins....
and if i do it in shoes it squeaks lol
VeeDaGhost 2 years ago
yeah, I too lose my balance all the time, I can do 2 spins, no more, cause I always fall down:/ Sb please tell me how to do more spins:)
ninjakick1983 3 years ago
Are you using shoes?
Kobehater12 2 years ago
do some pilates...
TheDLink 2 years ago
i "think" micheal put mutch power in his spin and is able to control the ballance and mut more power in the second turn where he´s spinning with 2 feet and change to a single feet :X
AnubisWalks 3 years ago
lol i thougt this would be about"micheal Jordan" on spin move. It took me 10 seconds of this is not spin move to realize it was micheal Jackson. Lmfao
20plus1 3 years ago
i dont know why, but i lost my balance...
Nainco07 3 years ago 5
so on one heel and on one toe??
mhss0001 3 years ago
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when i was in elementary i did 9 spins and landed on my toe. yeah i am the best mj imatater. i will post some videos of me dancin on this site pretty soon, watch out now
osmiley99 3 years ago
great!
tableTimo 3 years ago
i think i got it
giodacapper080 3 years ago
me too!! jejeje
Nainco07 3 years ago
cheers mate for adding this! ive always wanted to learn it but ive never mastered it, but thats gona be changeing now lol
whyFLYwhenYOUcanVTI 3 years ago
this is great,
best tutorial i've seen and i've seen alot that hardly make sence or do it completely wrong...
i used to just kick hard and wen my leg was on its way back i used that for kinda like a push n just stand on the ball of my other foot n let it spin me,
c8nvict 3 years ago
no i think it was in Lia Manoliu, Bucharest.
threenumbnuts 3 years ago
You are awesome.That's so good.Thanks.
Andr333www 3 years ago
Thanks a lot! This is the most helpful vid I could find. Good job!
therealarien 3 years ago
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WTF is that LAME song in the back?
sierrareed 3 years ago
Bill jean by michael jackson T_T
OnagaX09X 3 years ago 5
That wasn't Billie Jean.
That was a lame knock off of Billie Jean.
sierrareed 3 years ago
its billie jean, dangerouus or bad tour live.
coopz92 3 years ago
hahhahha difficult to believe but it's true MAN!!! hahahahah
hydrogenix 3 years ago
its called billie jean and it is a great song do not insult it
threenumbnuts 3 years ago 2
I'm not insulting it aat all!
I love Billie Jean!
However, I don't like this version of the song.
sierrareed 3 years ago
Awesome, thank you.
digitalmorphine 3 years ago
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MKH89MKH 3 years ago
poor moves ;/
viniciuskmax 3 years ago
thanks soo much for that advise
wheneva i try n spin i can do 360 degrees but then my feet get tangled
but i think this has sorted that out
shafizzle 3 years ago
Michael Jackson is no doubt the best singer/dancer who is ever seen in the history !
If the God can dance , it should be like Michael Jackson dance !
The same as If God can sing , then it should be similar as Jackson !
我來自台灣 , I am Sevorlaga !
sevorlaga142 3 years ago 3
whats this song called?
DumAznTubby 3 years ago
Billie Jean
MarciusSim 3 years ago
try doing 7 spins in 2 seconds, like MJ does. Thats like impossible to do
GypsyGhost 3 years ago
yeah i know lol
and he does it on his heels
MJlove89 3 years ago
if you want to learn 360's and stuff go ask Carlton from the fresh prince of bel air. hes ace
DriftK13 3 years ago
OMG! im not a big dancer and I need better instructions for this spin, any1 know where I can get a video of michael jackson spinning for dummies???
80sMusiCLoveRChiC1 3 years ago
it also helps to make a little jump up as you are setting your feet
loaferpatent101 3 years ago
hey finally i can do 1 of his dance steps
paolo665 3 years ago
no. MJ doesnt do it that way.. you got it wrong
jacksparrow14 3 years ago
this dude is awesome @ teaching these steps man
uchiha9447itachi 3 years ago
GREAT! I always wondered how the KING MJ does it! I tried so many different thing! lol!
Good job!
aichathebest 3 years ago 2
THIS ISN'T HOW MJ DOES IT.
widdenhord 3 years ago
yes ofc he do it faster, but this video is only to show the technic.
aranali 3 years ago
yes MJ does it faster and he also doesn't do it the way the guy in this vid does.
widdenhord 3 years ago
how does MJ actually do it then?
MaidenMetalhead667 3 years ago
i believe he spins on the front of one of his feet.
widdenhord 3 years ago
i've seen him spin on his heels actually
MJlove89 3 years ago
also his shos are smooth and have no grip at all
itssStylah 3 years ago
yea michel jordan doesent do that well lol
zorganics 3 years ago
i dont get it cos when i spin i do a whole 360 but then my feet get tangled and how do i spin so my feet are always nxt to each other when im spinning more than 360?
shafizzle 3 years ago
hey buddy... i tried tht... no tangling o feet... in the video this guy shows tht u spin with the hell o rite foot n the tow of the left... no chance o getting entangled...guess u don keep them at the required distance... do some RCA man...
alphazed1 3 years ago
hey can u say that agen lol
i got confused when reading it lol
shafizzle 3 years ago 2
i think it'd be better if you did it a bit slower -_-
xlosuh 3 years ago
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lmao you look retarded with those shoes and those applauds
videomaster411 3 years ago
aww i thought he'd teach me how to jump up on my toes at the end =[
pinkyblackish 3 years ago
LOL
batmnrkc907 3 years ago