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  • I thought we were suppose to freeze?

  • go to HELL with your freakin bears 

  • @bofawziii

    you aren't trying to save the world!!!!

    i am not your friend!

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  • Help the humanity!!

    Take Ride not Car

  • Despite the fact that no global warming has been measured over the past eight years, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moonbat shrieks like a woman with a rat running up the inside of her dress that the imaginary climate problem is "so severe and so sweeping that only urgent, global action will do." I guess worldwide martial law and a ban on private property might be a start.

  • Two hurricane seasons in a row have been complete duds in the USA, despite hysterical assurances that global warming is causing hurricanes to become ever more frequent and severe. The National Hurricane Center has settled on a solution — pretending regular storms are tropical storms, so they can be named as if they were hurricanes.

    If we don't start getting some hurricanes soon, they'll be naming scattered showers.

  • Daniel Kahneman received a Nobel in 2002 for research that explains how the hoax works.

    He studied "availability bias" — tendency to judge the validity of a proposition by its familiarity. Arising from this are the terms "availability cascade" (describing how a proposition becomes accepted if the media repeats it), "informational cascade" (tendency to throw out our beliefs in favor of everyone else's), and "reputational cascade" (the rational incentive to make our beliefs conform to the herd).

  • Availability cascades pose a problem for scientists: What if the heads being counted to certify an alleged "consensus" arrived at their positions simply by counting heads?

  • June 12 ---Carbon Belch Day. Waste as much energy as you wish--rid yourself of the guilt that has been crammed down your throat!

  • it really comes down to this:

    who do you choose to believe...

    exxon's(& the fossil fuel industry) 'disinformation campaign' created to mislead the people...(oil/gas profits)?

    (OR)

    ALL the major, leading, & credible scientific institutions from around the world, who agree global warming is MAN-MADE, & action is needed now?(& this conclusion is based upon overwhelming scientific evidence)

    who do you chose to believe?

  • really, it comes down to just those two choices huh? bullshit.

    I believe the thousands in the scientific community that see Global warming as the hoax that it is. A profitable hoax at that.

  • yah it does comes down to those 2 choices! if you got a brain, you would see that's true!

  • thousands??? you wish! more BS from you huh!

    the ppl who say gw is a hoax is the real HOAX, all you JOKES have are spins & LIES!

  • btw, WRONG AGAIN BTESTER1!!

    first you said the rockefellers OWN exxon!

    THEY DONT!

    then you say the rockefellers own a "BIG CHUNK" of exxon!

    NO THEY DONT! the rockefeller's are MINORITY shareholders! & own only a "TINY PERCENTAGE" of shares!

  • They have(family) owns 5 per cent in each of the top 4 four major oil corporations.

    It's enought for effective working control.

    They don't advertise their wealth. They hide it in foundations.

    There are so many shareholders they don't need much of a percentage.

    The point is it is a ruse, a scam.

    I didn't explain myself properly here.

  • BS dude!

    5% is a MINORITY! if they had so much control, why didnt they win the vote concerning exxon?

    the shareholders all vote for the company's decisions....

    your "conspiracy thoery" totally does not make sense!

    the bush administration, philip cooney, exxon's disinformation campaign, is NO theory, it is a proven FACT, well documented!

    go look up PHILIP COONEY! its a FACT! theres a youtube vid on it too! they were caught RED-HANDED!

  • Lookup abiotic oil.

    The russians have 300 oil wells below 3-40000 feet way below any dead fossils.

    I believe in abiotic oil, it makes more sense after reviewing both.

    The point is that the earth is producing it naturally.

  • there still seems to be debate...

    but it doesnt matter!

    we need to get off oil, which is causing global warming!

    & we need to use alternative, healthy, sustainable energy!

  • i should clarify..theres still seems to be a debate on "abiotic oil"...

    but there is NO debate on human-caused global warming...the SHAMS are creating an impression that there is a debate...in order to create "doubt" and apathy...

    but there is actually a scientific consensus that global warming is MAN-MADE, & action is needed now! & this is based upon overwhelming scientific evidence from around the world!

  • btester1, ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!

    about if you are saying that NASA & the ROYAL SOCIETY etc all got together and conspired to LIE about their research so that we can get carbon taxed?

    do you know that the BUSH ADMINISTRATION CENSORED CREDIBLE SCIENTISTS about the DANGERS of global warming?

    do you who is Philip Cooney?

    do know what a "disinformation campaign" is?

    ANSWER!

  • Yes absolutely or they are wrong. Just because experts comes out and says it's true, doesn't it make it so.

    Bush runs nothing, he is a puppet.

    Just like democrats and republicans. As we have found out that both are war mongers.

    They are all the same.

    Disinformation campaign is a big word.

    Did you ever hear of divide and conquer. It's being played all the time.

    Philip Cooney, no I have not. We know that there is billions in fake news from the Bush administration.

  • OMG!! ok, so im going to listen to someone who thinks all those scientific academies(google scientific opinion global warming) along with all the major & leading scientific institutions like NASA, the ROYAL SOCIETY, etc all got together one day, conspired to LIE about their research so that we can get carbon taxed?

    you really believe that? LOL!!

    & if you dont know what a "disinformation campaign" is, then you should, because they got you HOOK LINE N SINKER! brainwashed!

  • People are still debating Einstein theory of relativity. Global warming, why did they change the name to Climate Change.

    What's your point?

    Yes I believe that, since Trillionaires are funding the global warming campaign.

  • you are WRONG again! are you reading my posts!

    regarding the term climate change...

    "The term climate change is often used interchangeably with the term global warming, ...according to the National Academy of Sciences, .."climate change" is growing in preferred use to "global warming" because it helps convey that there are other changes in addition to rising temperatures."

    epa

  • Is Exxon owned by the Rockefellers.. Please answer my question.

    Was live earth organized by David de Mayer Rothschild.

    Does the white house put out money in fake news?

  • NO EXXON is NOT owned by the rockefellers!

    exxon is a publicy owned company!

    just make your point! because im wasting my time with your BS! get to your point, & i'll DEBUNK you one at a time like i have!

  • Are in denial. Yes they own quite a big chunk of it. google news .. Exxon Rockefeller

    They want things changed at Exxon.

    Did you check out David de Mayer Rothschild.

  • EXXON is a PUBLICLY OWNED company!

    yah so what! good for the rockefellers if they want things changed at EXXON!! SUPER!

  • Did you know the rockefellers gave the land that the United Nations is on right now.

    Yes they own quite a chunk of Exxon.

    You said:

    NO EXXON is NOT owned by the rockefellers!

    Your wrong again.

  • NO YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN!

    EXXON is a PUBLICLY OWNED COMPANY traded ON THE STOCK MARKET!

  • Yes that is true, never said it wasn't.

    They want a vote to split the top position.

    You can read about it.

  • whats your point, for the nth time?

    good for the rockefellers!!

  • The white house puts out 1.6 billion in fake news. I'm not sure about the amount but something like that. It's still going on.

    What is real and what is not, we don't know.

    I question anything to do with the white house. That's why your info on Philip Cooney.

    Who knows it's true.

  • BS!!

    DO A SEARCH ON PHILIP COONEY!  before you reply to me!

    theres even a youtube vid on white house censoring global warming!

    go do a simple online search!! its A FACT!

  • Divide and rule, in politics, sociology and economics, a strategy to gain or maintain power. The use of this strategy was imputed to administrators of vast empires, including the Roman and British.

    Play both sides of the global warming argument. Then come out with a solution (carbon taxes) that gives them exactly what they want.

    Now the white house comes out and admits global warming.. before they were against it.

    Don't you see the scam being played here.

  • "....all got together one day, conspired to LIE about their research so that we can get carbon taxed?"

    No, you tin-foil headed loon. One day? Please, the environmental moonbats have been chipping away hugging trees for over 30 years. It just happened that "global warming" has been the most efficient vehicle to deliver the message since it can not be proved and when you loft predictions 50-100 years in the future, nobody will beheld accountable for them.

  • what do you mean gw can't be proved! more fossil fuel industry BS huh!

    for one, the IPCC, which is the largest Peer-Reviewed scientific consensus, concluded "unequivocally" that global warming is MAN-MADE, its here, & we need to take action now!

    btw, another strategy by the SPINNERS & LIARS(like you) is to ridicule ppl who are doing something about global warming!

  • & YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PHILIP COONEY!

    theres a youtube vid white house censoring global warming! you need to check that out!

  • Like I told you. There is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. Both are pro war. White house puts billions in fake news. Google it.

    You didn't answer my questions about who owns Exxon Rockefeller and the Rothschild live earth.

    I go to the source of the money of this global warming.

    That's put a big dent in your disinformation campaign theory.

  • no, they are NOT the same!

    democrats are not always pro war! many are against war! most democrats believe in & want to stop global warming!!

    yes, follow the money!

    bush, oil, exxon, oil, disinformation campaign, mislead (public, media, policy makers), no regulation on CO2 emmissions, drilling in the ARTIC NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE, etc...MONEY!! POWER!!

    get it!

  • The democrats were elected to end the war but they did not. wrong...

    Wmds were found in Iraq eh.. You still want to believe..

    no no.. you are being played from both sides.

    Divide and conquer.

    Rockefeller has lot's of foundations he puts in money. There is a phony environmental movement and they steal land through it.

  • what the hell are you talkin about now? isnt BUSH a republican, isnt he supposed to end the war? who are PRO OIL!

    you are being played by the FOSSIL FUEL industry & the BUSH admistration!

    you need to know who PHILIP COONEY IS!

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    what the hell are you talkin about now? isnt BUSH a republican, isnt he supposed to end the war?

    you are being played by the FOSSIL FUEL industry & the BUSH admistration! who are PRO OIL!

    you need to know who PHILIP COONEY IS!

  • I click on the spam accidently..

  • if you dont know about philip cooney, theres a youtube vid on white censoring of global warming that helped shed some light for me

  • Look.. Pollution is a problem. I agree.

    But by focusing on Co2 is not helping things.

    Global warming is a scam to bring in their carbon taxes. I know Al Gore has said this.

    Why would Al Gore bring this up? Where did he get this from? Answer me this?

  • since you didnt answer my earlier post, i;ll ask again...

    are you saying that ALL the major, leading, credible scientific institutions FROM AROUND THE WORLD such as NASA GISS & the ROYAL SOCIETY have all gotten together, planned to LIE about their research & findings, so that we all could get carbon taxed?

  • What Im saying is that there isn't a concensus of any kind.

    Nasa is a big organization with lot's of different opinions.

    Even their moon landing, many people are questioning.

  • LOL! oh so knock NASA, right? hahahah!

    i'll take NASA's research over any of your BS!

    go look up scientific opinion global warming! I DARE YA!

  • So there is a concensus at Nasa? Dont' think so. What about the Mars information.

    You forget too easily. Wrong wrong wrong...

    I only stated science facts, if you say the Co2 in the atmosphere isn't 0.03 per cent.

    Again you are willing to be brainwashed by the media or scientific opinion not facts.

    Oregon petition is looking pretty good my friend.

  • yes there is!! go see what NASA GISS has to say on global warming!

    the mars thing has not been proven, from what i got, its a myth! the only ones bringing crap like that up are the same exxon-connected SHAM ppl, they are really grasping for straws now!

    i said, the important thing is not the %, its how it affects the earth! jus like poison, it doesnt matter how small the amt, it still can kill you!

    the oregon petition is a sham!! I DARE ANYBODY TO SEARCH MORE into it!fred sietz too!

  • Google "white house billions fake news"

    1.6 billion in fake news every year.

    How do you know the news is true.

    Fill me in a room with 100 times the Co2 in my plastic bag and I'll take a breath no problem.

    You exhale 4.5 per cent Co2. There is 0.03 per cent in the atmosphere.

    Your argument is a joke.

    That's your opinion it is a sham. You have no proof of this.

  • dude, the dangerous levels of CO2, because of mankind, is creating global warming, this is the scientific consensus!

    you will NOT survive, if the earth heats up so hot that sea levels rises, flooding the earth, the ice caps melt, severe droughts, super hurricanes, species dying, both on land & in sea, etc etc, you or anybody else will NOT survive a inhabitable earth!

    go ask the National Academy of Sciences what they think of that so called "petition"..dont ask exxon-connected SHAMS!

  • Dangerous levels of Co2.. 0.03 per cent.

    Again, your not in reality zone here.

    Co2 is the heaviest gas in the atmosphere.

    How could it be a greenhouse gas.

  • sigghh...are you saying CO2 is not a greenhouse gas?

  • "dude, the dangerous levels of CO2, because of mankind, is creating global warming, this is the scientific consensus!"

    You mean to say this is the scientific consensus of those that rely on grant money to create a "crisis" for which to solve and remain relevant in the scientific community.

    You must have misspoke, what you stated was very misleading.

  • maybe you should get your facts straight! YOU ARE THE ONE MISLEADING with your BS!

    "New Scientist notes that in surveys a much larger fraction of U.S. scientists consistently state that they are pressured by their employers or by U.S. government bodies to deny that global warming results from human activities or risk losing funding."

  • look at the severe droughts we're having! australia's biggest rice mills in the southern hemishere went under recently because of it!!

    look at the islands being swallowed up by rising sea levels! its too saline to grow crops on those lands!

  • Australia had a very cold summer last year.

    Sorry wrong again.

    You might associate an earthquake to global warming now. Sounds like it.

    Lot's of scams, the Lousiana coast sinks while the Texas coast rises.

  • can you read:

    "The Deniliquin mill, the largest rice mill in the Southern Hemisphere, once processed enough grain to satisfy the daily needs of 20 million people. But six long years of drought have taken a toll, reducing Australia's rice crop by 98 percent and leading to the mothballing of the mill last December."

    iht

  • Your blaming Co2 on droughts with no proof.

    Co2 has nothing to do with it.

    It goes contrary to the experiences of farmers, pot growers and greenhouses.

  • OMG dude, you really are dumber than i thought! LOL!

    CREDIBLE climate scientists have predicted that because of the unnatural levels of CO2 in the atmosphere today, we will see more severe droughts as ONE of the consequences! they have been proven CORRECT!

  • You quote other people all the time here.

    No real science from you.

    It's very sad.

  • because its easier to explain it that way & the people i quote have more credibility..people can read it & decide for themselves & look more into it etc

  • Credibility and agenda are two different things.

    Follow the money. Who funds Al Gore.

    Who funds John Mccain's campaign.

    Who owns Exxon. I look at the big picture.

    GW is a bunch of nonsense.

  • dude, someone with hidden agendas(especially shelfish ones) has practically NO CREDIBILITY with me! how can you trust their motives!

    how do you know Al Gore is not simply caring for the welfare of the ppl & earth's creatures! he had the balls to speak up & put what is the most important issue ever in the spotlight!

    do you know what a "disinformation campaign" is?? obviously you dont, because you are parroting the same BS the fossil fuel industry is!

  • Exxon is owned by the Rockefellers, is it not?

    Live earth was financed by the Rothschilds, was it not?

    Answer me these two questions.

  • what's your point?

  • and as i said for the "100th time"!

    & even if what you say is true...ONE DAY, ONE MONTH, ONE WINTER, etc does NOT MAKE A TREND! ask any credible scientist if this is true! it is the overall TREND that is the important thing!

  • The global warming people are loosing so bad, they have to call it climate change.

    Did you know this.

  • NOPE DUDE, you ARE WRONG AGAIN!!

    here's the truth!

    "The term climate change is often used interchangeably with the term global warming, ...according to the National Academy of Sciences, .."climate change" is growing in preferred use to "global warming" because it helps convey that there are other changes in addition to rising temperatures."

    epa

  • Climate change is doublespeak. Did you read George Orwell's 1984. Maybe you haven't.

    Politicians do this all the time.

    You are just mesmorized the phony enviromental movement who wants carbon taxes.

  • dude, im seriously questioning your state of mind? are u high? are u sane? seriously!

    because you are not getting anything i post, even when its qoutes by the National Academy of Sciences or the EPA, etc....

  • & you just aint making any sense!

  • My education is under attack. I know it's not true. I look at the facts.

    The chemistry.. your always quoting sources of some society.

    I look at things I've learned in high school.

    Boggles the mind.

  • do you know more than, let's say, Dr. James Hansen, TOP NASA climate scientist?

  • Hansen? James Hansen?

    Oh my god! That fool has been discredited so many times he's practically the punchline to the whole global warming joke.

  • MORE LIES from you huh! the only ones being discredited time and time again are the fossil fuel industry's LIES & ppl involved in exxon's disinformation campaign!

    show me proof about what you claimed about Dr. James Hansen! or is it just the usual attack by the fossil fuel industry etc!

  • & you are just repeating the SPINS & LIES of the fossil fuel industry!

    you know that president BUSH is connected to oil, right?

    you know that the Bush Administration was censoring what credible scientists could say on their reports, right? the scientists wanted to warn us about the dangers of global warming, but they couldnt even say the word "danger"! any mention on the melting ice caps were crossed out! theres much more that was censored! etc!

    you know about Philip Cooney, right?

  • even data from NASA GISS debunks the "gw is caused by the sun" myth...

    "The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis"

    "The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum..."

    NASA GISS

  • The oregon petition includes 9000 phd's.

    3 times more than the IPCC.

    And the IPCC is not in total agreement.

    How does Nasa explain the global warming going on Mars. Can't explain that one can you.

  • that petition is a SHAM!

    virtually anybody couldve signed it!!

    people added fake names to that list!

    there are repeated names!

    most were not climate scientists, & dont have climate science backgrounds!

    it was deceivingly made to look like it came from the National Academy of Sciences! the report in that petition wasnt even peer-reviewed! that is why the NAS distanced itself from fred seitz in 1998 for organizing that sham petition!

  • That's your opinion from a certain website.

    The petition is still valid. petitionproject dot org read my friend...

    Nasa says there is global warming on Mars.

    You're looking pretty bad now.

    I hope you love your carbon credits. Your police state monitoring of your carbon emissions. Your carbon taxes on your income tax. You are severily misinformed.

    Co2 is part of nature, an essential gas of life on earth. I have a science degree too.

    I'm not falling for it. I think for myself.

  • anybody with a brain can see that petition is a SHAM!!

    even the National Academy of Sciences(among many im sure) saw right through that BS petition!!

    thats why the NAS came out & spoke out against it! and that is also why they distanced themselves from SHAM exxon-connected Fred seitz!

    all my posts debunks yours! you wish you were winning!! you cant even spell "loosing" correctly! (its losing) LOL!

  • more on that CRAP "petition"

    "But it was too late. Seitz, the Oregon Institute and the George C Marshall Institute had already circulated tens of thousands of copies, and the petition had established a major presence on the internet. Some 17,000 graduates signed it, the majority of whom had no background in climate science."

    guardian UK

  • more on "petition"...

    "It has been repeatedly cited - by global-warming sceptics such as David Bellamy, Melanie Phillips and others - as a petition by climate scientists. It is promoted by the Exxon-sponsored sites as evidence that there is no scientific consensus on climate change."

    guardian UK

  • You sponsonring the views of Exxon.

    David R. is a majority owner of Exxon. He is pushing his global warming.

    David de Mayer Rothschild sponsor of live earth. These guys are trillionaires and your pushing their views here.

    Nothing to do with warming, everything to do with Carbon tax and control.

  • youre not making sense!

    EXXON does not want to be regulated and they want to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge etc! this is why they created this disinformation campaign...they dont want the public, media, and policy makers to know the truth about global warming, & that we have to get off our dependence on oil etc!

    exxon stands to lose a lot if we knew the truth about global warming & if exxon becomes regulated!

    it is that simple!!!

    all this info can be found on the net!

  • This is just disinfo.

    I have relatives in the oil fields in Alberta.

    They are shutting down refineries to keep prices up. In other words they are running a scam. I know this to be true from my relatives, not from any other place.

  • It doesn't matter if they had no background in climate science.

    Neither did Al Gore. Even the founder from the weather channel wanted to sue Al Gore for fraud.

    I don't rely on the oregon petition even they have a majority.

  • btester said: "It doesn't matter if they had no background in climate science."

    are you kidding me! first you say that the so called "petition" has all these "scientists"....well, that's NOT TRUE as i have proven!

    & how can that petition be credible if they dont have a background in climate science?!

    yet ALL MAJOR, LEADING, & CREDIBLE scientific institutions from around the world ALL AGREE that global warming is MAN-MADE, & action is needed NOW!

  • im having to repeat myself to btester1

    AL GORE is just the "SPOKESPERSON", the sources he uses are credible scientists....understand?

    the founder of the weather channel CANNOT sue al gore! that is a joke!! for what?

    oh now that i proved that so called "petition" crap, you say, well i dont rely on it! LOL! you were touting it earlier! before i proved it CRAP!

    & that petition doesnt have a majority!! virtually anybody could've signed that CRAP petition!

  • He uses the hockey puck theory and that has been discredited. The solar cycle follows the curve of warming more than Co2.

    They are putting Al Gore's video in schools.

    I guess he was disgusted with that. I dont know his reason.

    The more I read about the Oregon petition, the more I see your information is not valid.

  • more BS from btester1...

    the National Academy of Sciences had to step in because all the BS "deniers" were touting the hockey stick was flawed, the hockey stock was flawed! global warming is a hoax blah blah blah!

    well, guess what, the NAS came out & said that the hockey stick's conclusion was correct! they support it!

  • Co2 is good for plants.

    Shell oil pumps their emissions into greenhouses so that plants can grow faster.

    How about that, it's good for plants.

    These are facts, not some theory.

    You have no facts just IPCC. UN is corrupt my friend. It's in doubt big time.

  • dude, TOO MUCH CO2 is not good! its that simple!

    saying the more CO2, the better, is another absurd claim by the fossil fuel industry etc! it's misleading & any credible climate scientists will tell you that.

    knocking the IPCC is another strategy used by the fossil fuel industry!

  • IPCC isn't a consensus either. You know little about the situation but parrot it out very well.

    More Co2 the better. Yes Co2 is not pollution.

    Fossil fuels theory is challenged as well.

    If the earth is producing it naturally then you gw's have to accept that.

    You can see it. Who owns Exxon, Rockefeller.. Who is behind live earth. A Rothschild.

    Do you know how much pain those families have caused the human race. Al gore global carbon tax. A tax on life.

  • The National Academy of Sciences states...

    "The basic conclusion of Mann(hockey stick) was that the late 20th century warmth in the Northern Hemisphere was unprecedented during at least the last 1000 years. This conclusion has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence that includes both additional large-scale surface temperature reconstructions and pronounced changes in a variety of local proxy indicators, such as melting on ice caps and the retreat of glaciers around the world."

  • there is no credible scientific evidence proving that gw is caused by the sun, thats another myth!

    truth...

    "A new scientific study concludes that changes in the Sun's output cannot be causing modern-day climate change.

    It shows that for the last 20 years, the Sun's output has declined, yet temperatures on Earth have risen.

    Writing in the Royal Society's journal Proceedings A, the researchers say cosmic rays may have affected climate in the past, but not the present."

  • yes it does.. over the 400 year cycle.

    Carbon dioxide is a result of the solar cycle.

    I can prove it.

  • ok, prove it, cuz if you did, then you would be famous! go for it!

  • more on the so called "petition"..

    they made it look like it was from the NAS (National Academy of Sciences)...

    "In reality, neither Robinson's paper nor OISM's petition...had anything to do with the National Academy of Sciences.."

    sourcewatch

    "It was printed in the font and format of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.."

    guardian UK

  • more on fred seitz, organizer of that so called "petition"...

    "Dr. Seitz is a former President of the National Academy of Sciences, but the Academy disassociated itself from Seitz in 1998 when Seitz headed up a report designed to look like an NAS journal article saying that carbon dioxide poses no threat to climate. The report, which was supposedly signed by 15,000 scientists, advocated the abandonment of the Kyoto Protocol."

    guardian UK

  • (cont'd)..fred seitz and the so called "petition"..

    "Soon after the petition was published, the National Academy of Sciences released this statement: "The NAS Council would like to make it clear that this petition has nothing to do with the National Academy of Sciences and that the manuscript was not published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences or in any other peer-reviewed journal. The petition does not reflect the conclusions of expert reports of the Academy."

    guardian UK

  • regarding that so called "petition"...

    'The "Oregon Petition," was started in 1998 by physicist Frederick Seitz, past president of the National Academy of Science. The identical petition card was circulated again in early 2008 and Arthur Robinson is presenting the petition with 31,000 signatures in Washington DC on May 19, 2008[51] Critics point out that many of the signatories of the Petition LACK A BACKGROUND IN CLIMATOLOGY'

    wikipedia

  • more on so called "petition"...

    'The mailing (petition) is clearly designed to be DECEPTIVE by giving people the impression that the article, which is full of half-truths, is a reprint and has passed peer review," complained Raymond Pierrehumbert, a meteorlogist at the University of Chicago. NAS foreign secretary F. Sherwood Rowland, an atmospheric chemist, said researchers "are wondering if someone is trying to HOODWINK them."

    sourcewatch

  • Well that's one opinion of information.

    Good for you. But they have 31000 signatures.

    Wikipedia is not truth either, anyone can put anything on there.

  • So does Al Gore and he represents only himself. He has no academic credentials in climate science.

    You have a double standard.

  • great job!

    more & more ACTUAL evidence is confirming what ALL the CREDIBLE, LEADING, & MAJOR scientific institutions have warned...global warming is here, it's MAN-MADE, we have to act now!

    receding/melting/breaking off of glaciers, severe drought, more severe storms, changing weather patterns, ice caps melting way faster than expected, rising sea levels, reef bleaching, disappearing islands etc etc...

  • also, ppl need to be aware of exxon's disinformation campaign to mislead the public,media, & policy makers

    even a top climate scientist warned that the fossil fuel industry is the main obstacle to saving the planet!

  • Is your leading credible information coming from the IPCC and mr Al Gore (no academic credentials). There are now more scientists against this and I can quote an article to prove my point.

    What causes the Mars ice polar caps to melt.

    Earth's global warming?

    You think your doing a good thing but your really not, they are running a scam on the public. Carbon credits on your income tax.

    Less children you have, the less carbon credits you have. Can't take a plane.. then you lose your freedom.

  • First of all, Al Gore is just the "spokeperson", his sources are credible scientists!

    those who support the IPCC's position on global warming are many including:

    NASA, National Academy of Sciences, American Association for the Advancement of Science,

    US National Academy of Science, Joint Science Academies, European Academy of Sciences and Arts, International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences,International Council for Science,InterAcademy Council...

  • those who support the IPCC's position (continued):

    Network of African Science Academies,European Science Foundation,American Association for the Advancement of Science, Federation of American Scientists,World Meteorological Organization,American Meteorological Society,Royal Meteorological Society,Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society,Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society,Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences,American Geophysical Union...

  • those who support the IPCC's position (continued):

    American Institute of Physics,American Astronomical Society,American Physical Society,American Chemical Society,National Research Council,Federal Climate Change Science Program,American Quaternary Association,Geological Society of America,Engineers Australia,Stratigraphy Commission of Geological Society of London,Canadian Federation of Earth Sciences,European Geosciences Union,International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics,the list goes on!

  • Did you know some of the scientists actually sued to get their names off this IPCC list.

    The oregon petition has more signatures against.

  • IPCC has come out in April 2008, saying the warming didn't happen.

    IF you look deep into this. Scientists lose their funding if they go against this.

    Exxon is funded by the Rockefellers. AL Gore is funded the Rothschilds. Look up David de Mayer Rothschild of live earth.(trillionaires)

    Did you hear about the Oregon petition.

    Global warming has nothing to do with warming, everything to do with their carbon credit scam and taxes.

    Your fossil fuel theory now is very much in doubt.

  • all BS from you! this poster is exactly who you gotta watch out for who spreads BS! i've had to deal with many so far, of course only to be DEBUNKED!

    1) show me links about your claims, like the IPCC saying warming didn't happen!

    2) scientists are actually pressured to DOWNPLAY the threat of global warming...or lose funding! heard of Philip Cooney? he was caught censoring credible scientists who were trying to warn us about the dangers of global warming...

  • (continued)

    2) the bush admistration is "in bed" with exxon! pushing exxon's agenda! (according to exxonsecrets and many others...it is well documented!) that is one reason why scientists are pressured to downplay the threat of global warming!

    3) Exxon created a "disinformation campaign", soley for the purpose of CONFUSING, MISLEADING, the public, media, & policy makers...it is totally different! they are doing this to avoid regulation! & also so they can drill in the ANWR etc

  • 2) UN land in NY was donated by David Rockefeller. A majority owner in Exxon.

    This is fact, you can check it out.

    The UN was responsible for Rwanda and that massacre. Did you hear about the oil for food scandal in the UN. You trust the IPCC now completely.

    3) For one thing, you are getting the propaganda view. Divide and conquer is the strategy. It's always played over and over.

    Bilderberg CFR... This is all planned.

  • 3) I DARE anybody to go look into that so called "petition"! they will see, it is CRAP! sourcewatch explained it well for me!

  • No it isn't. About 13-18000 of were good scientists,many times the count of the IPCC.

    IPCC vice president Yury Izrael wrote that "There is no proven link between human activity and global warming." last June.

  • BS!

    how can you prove that! i did a random pick of a name myself on that so called "petition"! the dude was a vetinarian! how is a vetinarian a climate scientist!? LOL!

    & i also saw repeated names!

    people successfully added fictitious names on that so called petition, too!

  • regarding YURY IZRAEL...(& we should rely on this guy's judgement? LOL!)

    "Izrael was chairman of the State Committee on Hydrometeorology at the time of the Chernobyl nuclear accident. Following the accident he was widely criticized for slow and inaccurate monitoring. He was also criticized for allowing air pollution throughout the USSR to reach unprecedented levels..."

    wikipedia

  • UN is one of the most corrupt organizations.

    You always hear of a rape, scandal corruption, child slavery... Look at what they did in Rwanda. 1 million people died because the UN pulled out.

    People like you who don't research the these organizations and believe blindly in their conclusions. The UN wants their world carbon tax. It's a scam.

  • what youre saying about the UN, whether its true or not, is just your opinion! they have done great things!

    NO! you need to research EXXON's disinformation campaign because you sound like you have been suckered into their BS!

    so you think all the MAJOR, LEADING, CREDIBLE scientific institutions from around the world have LIED about their research & findings because they want a carbon tax?!! that has got to be the biggest JOKE i've heard, if you believe that, what can i say!

  • UN is corrupt! Period. End of story. History has shown this. Your not thinking.

    Divide and Conquer strategy is being played here. UN gives awards to china. China has a one child policy. Carbon tax credits, you hear this in England a lot. Do some research on Eugenics. Rothschild is the head of the gw movement. Look up David de Mayer Rothschild.

  • BS dude!!

    are you saying leading, credible scientific institutions from around the world like NASA GISS, The National Academy of Sciences, The Royal Society, etc are LYING, they made up all their research and findings so that the people can get carbon taxed?! thats totally ridiculous!

  • The climate is not showing what they predicted at all. We had last seven years of cooling and the 2008 winter was the coldest winter in the last 40 years.

    Most of them just agree that's all.

    They were some scientists who sued to get their name off that list. I have to check that source.

    Most of the Gw use the IPCC data, and that's sad for them. Propaganda flies in the face of facts.

  • BS dude!

    2005 was the hottest year on record!

    2007 tied 1998!

    then comes 2002, 2003, 2004! this is from NASA GISS!

    one winter does not make a TREND! go ask any credible scientist if one cool winter makes a diff. in the longer-view, and overall TREND, which is the important thing, i dont know why you cant comprehend that! and La Nina, a cooling event, had a lot to do with that cooling!

    NASA GISS predicted 2007 would be hotter than 2006, & they were correct...

  • Can you predict the climate ten days from now.

    Nobody can.

    google "mars ice polar caps"

    Look at the Nasa article.

    Sun explains it very well. Co2 is only .03 per cent of the atmosphere. Hardly any effect.

    Calculate the mass of Co2, it's heavy and it doesn't mix well with other gases. Plants use it for this reason. Ask a pot grower or a farmer is Co2 is good. More is better.

    Co2 is a life giving gas.

  • the climate can be predicted quite well! you are getting "weather" (short-term) confused with "climate" (longer-term)...

    the sun does not explain at all! NASA etc proved it!

    show me credible scientific evidence for your claim! & make sure it aint no BS from fossil-fuel funded SHAM scientists!

    youre an IDIOT! if we keep adding CO2, the ice caps melt, the sea floods earth, the earth gets hotter n hotter n hotter, the climate will be totally diff, & inhabitable in time! how is this good?!

  • Mars Is Warming, NASA Scientists Report.

    You result in name calling. Your loosing big time.

    Please respond to this.

  • no! because i've had it with you SHAMS trying anything to mislead the public!

    this is at the expense of every living thing on this planet! you SHAMS have no morals!!! you only care about money! power ! etc!

    if gw gets any worse, you can kiss all that money & crap goodbye, as every living thing here is at risk & will be gone! including you and your loved ones! MORON!

  • and im looking into that mars thing!! so far, it's a myth!!

    show me a NASA link saying there's global warming on mars with scientific certainty & that it debunks gw!

  • I know Co2 is good for plants.

    Do you deny they put Co2 in greenhouses?

    cmon...

  • DUDE, are you getting anything ive posted!

    CO2 is a natural greenhouse gas...the earth has its natural balance UNTIL humans put UNNATURAL concentrations of CO2 into the atmosphere, this is what is causing global warming!

    if we continue adding unnatural amounts of CO2, the earth will eventually be inhabitable....you can forget growing anything! yet alone live in this world!

  • All 0.03 per cent of it? Co2 is a heavy gas.

    It does not mix well with other gases. So that throws the greenhouse gas theory of Co2 out the window. Calculate the molar mass.

    Earth is not a closed system.

    Mars is very cold, 95 per cent Co2 atmosphere.

    I don't see your argument.

  • are u saying CO2 is not a greenhouse gas?

  • Earth's atmosphere is.

    78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide

    So your saying carbon dioxide relevant as a greenhouse gas? You drink the koolaid well!

    I don't see the link.

  • answer my question...

    so, are you saying the earth's atmosphere does not include CO2?

  • I just stated the quantities of it.

    What is your electrical malfunction here.

    Co2 is a heavy gas.. yes it is.. How it could float above O2 which is lighter.

    Because of the earth rotation, Co2 does not even mix well because of it's nature.

    Such a small quantity too. 0.03 per cent.

    Mars is 95 per cent and it's bloody cold.

  • dude, it doesn't matter what the %'s are....the important thing is what affect it has on the atmosphere!

  • "dude, it doesn't matter what the %'s are...."

    doesn't matter what the percents are? what the... Gore can't go 5 minutes without mentioning the parts per million of Co2 and we get daily updates. (you do know that parts per million is really just another way of expressing a percent right?)

    Of course the percentages are relevant. At the very least it demonstrates the degree to which you distort data.

  • it doesnt matter the % of CO2 that makes up the atmosphere MORON!

    the % increase is what matters & it is causing global warming! GET IT NOW, IDIOT!

  • do you think you're doing a good thing by misleading the public about the truth of global warming?! (you should work for exxon's disinformation campaign!)

    do you know more than Dr. James Hansen, TOP NASA climate scientist? who warns us that we are in a "CRISIS" & we have to act now or else!

  • Exxon is all for biofuels now. Causing these food shortages.

    There is no crisis of CO2. A pollution crisis maybe, but CO2 is not pollution.

  • Sorry but a new news story stated that hunting was responsible for the decline not global warming.

    Global warming is nonsense. 2008 was the coldest winter in the last 28 years.

    CO2 is life giving to plants. Don't let them put a carbon tax on you. A tax on life.

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