Not when you prove to be a fake. LOL! No really this guy isn't saying anything new. Nothing different from Ivan Van Sertima, Cheikh Ante Diop, Dr. Ben, Dr. Henry Clark or Anthony Browder ...just to name a few. He works for the FOP on a local,state and FEDERAL LEVEL of intelligence gathering. Come on people we can't afford letting people like this into the fold. This is EXACTLY how our leaders got either betrayed or killed. The names I listed are people you SHOULD consider studying vs Haygin
saa neter,natural tahuti and a few others did a willie lynch technique! That's real foul brothas. We must all grow in 1...2...and 3 to realize it is better to get what we need, not what we want. Especially when we want things that divide us. More dialogue with love, less debate with hate!!!
this is like a fight. i hope although they have differences that they talk to the crowd next time that it is bigger then belief now and about empowering each other economically. to some this was just entertainment.
so sad! not on the part of the speakers but on saa neter. it is unfortunate that he vibes so heavily on conflict! The fact of it all is that man must KNOW THYSELF! through whatever avenues and passages he must take!!!
@mellobassman Ase'! Brother Ray was ambushed by this debate in the first place. Spirituality gave birth to man made religions. Like Brother Ray said Muhammad came in to KMT, saw Ma'at, and incorporated into a way of called Islam. Islam was transformed into religion by white Arabs. Brother Ray's response was justified. Maybe not what the people wanted, but just. Hotep
For those who didnt understand what Dr. Ray was sayin, he was sayin tht we need to let go of religion period and go back to our ancient spirituality! To answer the simple question; YES! Islam is and Afrikan RELIGION! Since yall wanna claim tht. "Religion" is a man made belief system! It doesnt matter if it is black or white. We as a people dont need religion to hav spirituality. The PERSONIFICATION of God does NOT exist! Thts how we are distracted from reality! The white elite know tht!
Dr. Wesley does prove that blacks were orginators of Islam (way of life submitting to the will of God) before the prophet Muhammad,but the Quran was written after and as Ray stated was written to combat the Catholic take over from Rome. Islam is suppose to be a relgion of peace. Do you trully feel that from our muslims today? Lets stop the division and start the unity! one for Ray!
I am personally starting to believe that it aint even about "Black", or "African" at all. It's about the upliftment of humanity (yes and even the upliftment of the white man). Everything else has failed. White supremacy is a failure and it seems to me that Black Supremacy is a failing. Look at how ignorant , angry, and disrespectful this dude Sanater is acting. Dude even went off on the audience and called them all "negroes." Pitiful!
@pmood1 I dont know of anyone personaaly ( and I have knowledge of a lot of schloars) that promote black supremacy!! that makes no sense!! saa neter have issues, thats evident! he has problems with people that dont believe as he does! but he is suppose to with our liberation...SO SAD!! Dr. wesley muhammad demonstrated irrefutably his point! and is it black supremacy to know and believe that we as black people are natural decendantss from the creator? in a world predicated on white supremacy??
One thing that Dr, Ray said that is so true is that quote, "I see the spirit of gangsterism entering among us, under the disguise of liberation"...Powerful!!!
i never seen this part.. after seeing i think ray hagin did a great job, the only true winners were those that had an ear to hear and an eye to see... dr ray hagen argument proved its point moor so the dr. wesley whos argument is falacious
Not when you prove to be a fake. LOL! No really this guy isn't saying anything new. Nothing different from Ivan Van Sertima, Cheikh Ante Diop, Dr. Ben, Dr. Henry Clark or Anthony Browder ...just to name a few. He works for the FOP on a local,state and FEDERAL LEVEL of intelligence gathering. Come on people we can't afford letting people like this into the fold. This is EXACTLY how our leaders got either betrayed or killed. The names I listed are people you SHOULD consider studying vs Haygin
Prodma000 3 weeks ago
saa neter,natural tahuti and a few others did a willie lynch technique! That's real foul brothas. We must all grow in 1...2...and 3 to realize it is better to get what we need, not what we want. Especially when we want things that divide us. More dialogue with love, less debate with hate!!!
rahntrkmt 1 month ago
some of our people understand true unity, and some unfortunately never will.
Hotep to Dr. Haggins, for acting in the way of ma'at.
Peace to Dr. Muhammad, for showing how one acts with supreme wisdom.
rahntrkmt 1 month ago
this is like a fight. i hope although they have differences that they talk to the crowd next time that it is bigger then belief now and about empowering each other economically. to some this was just entertainment.
heckler171 1 month ago in playlist More videos from selfjust
That brother is on some other shit. Dr. Rev Ray Hagins handled that well.
Chillyman010 1 month ago
Saneter is foul.
TheSupremewisdom 2 months ago
Is this what We are calling Spiritually Conscious?
jaydubb2005 2 months ago
so sad! not on the part of the speakers but on saa neter. it is unfortunate that he vibes so heavily on conflict! The fact of it all is that man must KNOW THYSELF! through whatever avenues and passages he must take!!!
zyzynzhu 3 months ago
Hope my Brotha's and Sista's can come to Baltimore on Dec. 10th Wesley Muhammad and Mukasa Afrika.
BroHakiA 4 months ago
Ase'
kedarptahel 4 months ago
@mellobassman Ase'! Brother Ray was ambushed by this debate in the first place. Spirituality gave birth to man made religions. Like Brother Ray said Muhammad came in to KMT, saw Ma'at, and incorporated into a way of called Islam. Islam was transformed into religion by white Arabs. Brother Ray's response was justified. Maybe not what the people wanted, but just. Hotep
Cazpa11550 5 months ago
It's easy to see that Ray and Saa Neter is 2 bullshit ass mofos ,and they got wesley in the middle of they BULLSHIT !!!
know7edge1 5 months ago
For those who didnt understand what Dr. Ray was sayin, he was sayin tht we need to let go of religion period and go back to our ancient spirituality! To answer the simple question; YES! Islam is and Afrikan RELIGION! Since yall wanna claim tht. "Religion" is a man made belief system! It doesnt matter if it is black or white. We as a people dont need religion to hav spirituality. The PERSONIFICATION of God does NOT exist! Thts how we are distracted from reality! The white elite know tht!
mellobassman 5 months ago
Dr. Wesley does prove that blacks were orginators of Islam (way of life submitting to the will of God) before the prophet Muhammad,but the Quran was written after and as Ray stated was written to combat the Catholic take over from Rome. Islam is suppose to be a relgion of peace. Do you trully feel that from our muslims today? Lets stop the division and start the unity! one for Ray!
onpoint1o1 6 months ago
Sanater pleas grow up brother...blessings to the uploader for the video in its entirety.
Tarrence3000 7 months ago
I am personally starting to believe that it aint even about "Black", or "African" at all. It's about the upliftment of humanity (yes and even the upliftment of the white man). Everything else has failed. White supremacy is a failure and it seems to me that Black Supremacy is a failing. Look at how ignorant , angry, and disrespectful this dude Sanater is acting. Dude even went off on the audience and called them all "negroes." Pitiful!
pmood1 7 months ago
@pmood1 I dont know of anyone personaaly ( and I have knowledge of a lot of schloars) that promote black supremacy!! that makes no sense!! saa neter have issues, thats evident! he has problems with people that dont believe as he does! but he is suppose to with our liberation...SO SAD!! Dr. wesley muhammad demonstrated irrefutably his point! and is it black supremacy to know and believe that we as black people are natural decendantss from the creator? in a world predicated on white supremacy??
jacksondarryl34 6 months ago
Both of these two men make me proud of being black. We can learn alot from this lecture.
Elaina238 9 months ago
@Elaina238 Beautifully stated dear sista!!!
djdubie1 2 months ago
One thing that Dr, Ray said that is so true is that quote, "I see the spirit of gangsterism entering among us, under the disguise of liberation"...Powerful!!!
mia919100 9 months ago
This is so sad.
jesusneverexisted300 11 months ago
Don't like the anger of that brother Sanater.
npkandi 11 months ago
good stuff we must work together and realize and remember that africa had many tribes with many different religions and cultures
dontaewalton 1 year ago
i never seen this part.. after seeing i think ray hagin did a great job, the only true winners were those that had an ear to hear and an eye to see... dr ray hagen argument proved its point moor so the dr. wesley whos argument is falacious
muptahu24 1 year ago
@muptahu24 You can't be serious. He didn't speak on the topic.
chessdrummer 1 year ago
Salaam,Wow! Why was Saneter so angry? Its all about Unity Right! ~Unity
kunity77 1 year ago