I find this piece endlessly fascinating. I wish more contemporary orchestras would put Ives on the program. His music is unique and was way,way ahead of it's time.
Delizioso. Tensione onirica del linguaggio, meno stridente (ad esempio) del Secondo Tempo del Concerto N. 2 per pianoforte di Bela Bartok. Non ci sono sdilinquismi falsati di certi autori contemporanei poco attendibili. E' pura ispirazione sulla sequenza dei blocchi armonici degli archi, che guidano il percorso del fraseggio. Al 6o minuto, l'ingresso del piano con l'orchestra sembra un richiamo a Gershwin ... per alleggerire l'atmosfera, che sa di incognita e desolazione urbana ! Bella mossa !!
This has to be my favorite of Ives. There are many ways one can interpret meaning. To me the strings resemble the unresolved unconscious conflicts. The piano and other instruments resemble the conscious attempt to resolve these conflicts and irrationalities. As hard as the piano and other instruments attempt to drown out the unconscious conflicts and irrationalities, they will always remain hardwired.
Notice that at :52 Ives switches from chords w/ prominent major 7ths & minor 2nds to a more open sound, w/ 4ths, 5ths, minor 7ths/major 2nds to the fore; then back to original chords; at 1:55 switches to the more open, less dissonant sound, at 2:08 back to the more dissonant, at 2:20 to more open, at 2:39 back to full dissonance, etc.--back & forth. Remarkably, he anticipates by >/= 25 years Bartok's mysterious string chords in mvt 2 of pno cto 2, long one of my favorite mvts in all music.
@RichardASalisbury1 That's really interesting. Bartok and Ives (especially Ives) are two of my favorite composers. Your post reminds me I should go back and listen to the Bartok 2nd piano concerto, which I think is even better than his 3rd concerto (and a lot better than his 1st).
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kitomir 1 month ago
Definitely sparks the imagination!
HerbseasonSpringfeel 1 month ago
I find this piece endlessly fascinating. I wish more contemporary orchestras would put Ives on the program. His music is unique and was way,way ahead of it's time.
QMPhilosophe 1 month ago
@normalcomputerable Or maybe it's just about Central Park in the dark...
tristianity4u 2 months ago 6
Delizioso. Tensione onirica del linguaggio, meno stridente (ad esempio) del Secondo Tempo del Concerto N. 2 per pianoforte di Bela Bartok. Non ci sono sdilinquismi falsati di certi autori contemporanei poco attendibili. E' pura ispirazione sulla sequenza dei blocchi armonici degli archi, che guidano il percorso del fraseggio. Al 6o minuto, l'ingresso del piano con l'orchestra sembra un richiamo a Gershwin ... per alleggerire l'atmosfera, che sa di incognita e desolazione urbana ! Bella mossa !!
darkblueangel1956 2 months ago
Neat. I never heard of this guy until a few weeks ago. I'm loving his stuff.
olelumpy 2 months ago
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I never heard of this guy until a few hours ago.
BrokenSfera 2 months ago
indeed
gramsbyrds 2 months ago
This has to be my favorite of Ives. There are many ways one can interpret meaning. To me the strings resemble the unresolved unconscious conflicts. The piano and other instruments resemble the conscious attempt to resolve these conflicts and irrationalities. As hard as the piano and other instruments attempt to drown out the unconscious conflicts and irrationalities, they will always remain hardwired.
normalcomputerable 3 months ago 2
wow!! this was composed in 1906! years before the adagio of Bartok piano concerto 2! So beautiful!
qwerty12345678960 3 months ago
i love ives music :)
oberpupsbackeman 4 months ago
The future belongs to Ives.
nobodady1 6 months ago 3
Notice that at :52 Ives switches from chords w/ prominent major 7ths & minor 2nds to a more open sound, w/ 4ths, 5ths, minor 7ths/major 2nds to the fore; then back to original chords; at 1:55 switches to the more open, less dissonant sound, at 2:08 back to the more dissonant, at 2:20 to more open, at 2:39 back to full dissonance, etc.--back & forth. Remarkably, he anticipates by >/= 25 years Bartok's mysterious string chords in mvt 2 of pno cto 2, long one of my favorite mvts in all music.
RichardASalisbury1 10 months ago 7
@RichardASalisbury1 That's really interesting. Bartok and Ives (especially Ives) are two of my favorite composers. Your post reminds me I should go back and listen to the Bartok 2nd piano concerto, which I think is even better than his 3rd concerto (and a lot better than his 1st).
QMPhilosophe 9 months ago