The koran was not finally finished until at least 150 years after Muhammad's death and was compiled by memory. In Orthodox libraries, there exists the original Bible and Scripture texts.. The canons and dogmas of the Church were all decided at the Seven Ecumenical Councils. The Bible, regardless of translations. has the same messages. The koran holds no inspiration or revelations.
@xiaahmad Yes, get serious and read the Bible., you just might learn to be less ignorant. The Bible does not have "canons". It has verses and regardless of the translation it has the same meaning and message. Your video is far from being accurate and borders on stupidity.
@xiaahmad They are all correct. They all contain the main Gospels, the same messages and teachings. In the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Traditions, those Gospels and other writings/manuscripts that are not contained in the "main" Bible are still taken into consideration in the Faith. To state that the Bible is "wrong and corrupt" is being ignorant. This can be said of the koran, which denies the Crucifixion, amongst other contradictions. The Crucifixion is in the Bible and historically recorded.
This video only proves the ignorance of certain musims. There never was an aramaic text. even if jesus spoke aramaic it would make no difference at all. They also spoke latin and hebrew in those days. Todays bible translations are based on the earliest manuscripts. Anything added into the text would be well known. The books of the bible as translated today are entirely accurate.
Jesus and his followers taught the Gospel which is a message. This is all recorded in the books of the NT. It does not have to be recorded at the time it happens. Such was the case with all prophets, noah, abraham, etc.
Even if for the sake of argument the bible was wrong, it still doesnt mean quran is right. Quran is wrong no matter what one believes. And the bible is far far more believable than the quran.
Yeah I have to say this video contains many falsehoods. The authorship of John is not shrouded in obscurity in fact internal and external sources back the traditions of the church. But more importantly in 1 Timothy 3: 15 its the church not the bible which is the pillar and bulwork of truth therefore I believe because of the Church that being the Catholic church not just because of scripture alone. The Church guided by the Holy Spirit has authority for compilation of the canon they did not error
Btw, most of the information of this video is false. Peter was an eye-witness, a direct dicsiple of jesus. He is thought to be behind the Gospel of Mark. John was also a direct dicsiple -- obviously proving that "parts" of this video to be false must mean it ALL corrupt hey?
Even if the Bible was "corrupted", why would you think that it would have "originally" read anything like (not contradictory, unlike what the Bible is today [to the koran]) the Koran????
It's a logical fallacy to think that; based on assumption. You can "prove" biblical corruption all you like, but it still doesn't prove Islam, or the Koran to be right.
when did I said that I am just pointing out the corruptions and how canon was formed which shows its not the case as many christian apologetics try to show.
But your overall gain is that you are trying for people to distrust the Bible --- .... so to come to the conclusion Islam is right, but as I already said, your bases isn't for truth, but for pride, and consequently has flawed logic behind it. I continue learning for myself, thank you.
I always ask which version which year are we talking about. I used to collect bibles I know two bibles are not alike, so we always have to ask which one do you have!
SUX ! first dude, that music's gotta go.... if you can call it music. 2nd, you need to update your facts about the bible, bud.
severnkenpo 8 months ago
The koran was not finally finished until at least 150 years after Muhammad's death and was compiled by memory. In Orthodox libraries, there exists the original Bible and Scripture texts.. The canons and dogmas of the Church were all decided at the Seven Ecumenical Councils. The Bible, regardless of translations. has the same messages. The koran holds no inspiration or revelations.
vasilyjc1955 1 year ago
@vasilyjc1955
stop cracking jokes and read
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@xiaahmad Yes, get serious and read the Bible., you just might learn to be less ignorant. The Bible does not have "canons". It has verses and regardless of the translation it has the same meaning and message. Your video is far from being accurate and borders on stupidity.
vasilyjc1955 1 year ago
@vasilyjc1955
really ?
then which one is right 73 of Catholics or 66 of protestants? or Ethiopian or some other canon from past?
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@xiaahmad They are all correct. They all contain the main Gospels, the same messages and teachings. In the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Traditions, those Gospels and other writings/manuscripts that are not contained in the "main" Bible are still taken into consideration in the Faith. To state that the Bible is "wrong and corrupt" is being ignorant. This can be said of the koran, which denies the Crucifixion, amongst other contradictions. The Crucifixion is in the Bible and historically recorded.
vasilyjc1955 1 year ago
This video only proves the ignorance of certain musims. There never was an aramaic text. even if jesus spoke aramaic it would make no difference at all. They also spoke latin and hebrew in those days. Todays bible translations are based on the earliest manuscripts. Anything added into the text would be well known. The books of the bible as translated today are entirely accurate.
ahmalala 2 years ago
earliest is 4th century
and till 4th century there was no finalized canon even
also at jesus time and after him one or two generations there was no such thing called New testement even
xiaahmad 2 years ago
Jesus and his followers taught the Gospel which is a message. This is all recorded in the books of the NT. It does not have to be recorded at the time it happens. Such was the case with all prophets, noah, abraham, etc.
ahmalala 2 years ago
Even if for the sake of argument the bible was wrong, it still doesnt mean quran is right. Quran is wrong no matter what one believes. And the bible is far far more believable than the quran.
ahmalala 2 years ago
this video is about bible
and it proves Bible to be wrong and corrupted
xiaahmad 2 years ago
nope, it doesnt
ahmalala 2 years ago
Yeah I have to say this video contains many falsehoods. The authorship of John is not shrouded in obscurity in fact internal and external sources back the traditions of the church. But more importantly in 1 Timothy 3: 15 its the church not the bible which is the pillar and bulwork of truth therefore I believe because of the Church that being the Catholic church not just because of scripture alone. The Church guided by the Holy Spirit has authority for compilation of the canon they did not error
stephanmck 2 years ago
Great info
Y3Ktv 3 years ago
Btw, most of the information of this video is false. Peter was an eye-witness, a direct dicsiple of jesus. He is thought to be behind the Gospel of Mark. John was also a direct dicsiple -- obviously proving that "parts" of this video to be false must mean it ALL corrupt hey?
Juliocyp 3 years ago
Even if the Bible was "corrupted", why would you think that it would have "originally" read anything like (not contradictory, unlike what the Bible is today [to the koran]) the Koran????
It's a logical fallacy to think that; based on assumption. You can "prove" biblical corruption all you like, but it still doesn't prove Islam, or the Koran to be right.
Juliocyp 3 years ago
when did I said that I am just pointing out the corruptions and how canon was formed which shows its not the case as many christian apologetics try to show.
so learn for ur self
xiaahmad 3 years ago
But your overall gain is that you are trying for people to distrust the Bible --- .... so to come to the conclusion Islam is right, but as I already said, your bases isn't for truth, but for pride, and consequently has flawed logic behind it. I continue learning for myself, thank you.
Juliocyp 3 years ago
Good job!
onemuslimvoice 3 years ago
wow
Kite207 3 years ago
exactly waoooooooooooo
onemuslimvoice 3 years ago
Christians have so many versions.
Kite207 3 years ago
I always ask which version which year are we talking about. I used to collect bibles I know two bibles are not alike, so we always have to ask which one do you have!
onemuslimvoice 3 years ago
LOL!
The Qur'an is way powerful than the Bible. It dosn't matter which muslim sect you come from. Shia, Sunni, Suffi, ect. They all have the same Qur'an.
Kite207 3 years ago
What?! I think you need to do your research. There are many textual variations of the Koran, just like the Bible.
Juliocyp 3 years ago
Quran does not differences like of books chapter etc it dilects
but here we are talking about bible so talk about that.
xiaahmad 3 years ago
But "xiaahmed", I was simply replying to "kite207". Maybe you should be more consistent with your judgements.
Juliocyp 3 years ago
you are a sad creature Juliocyp. I will pray for you.
Kite207 3 years ago