@dcasey77 sorry you are missing the point of this film entirely. She had a very high sex drive and he did NOT desire women sexually at all. men with low sexdrives OR GAY MEN WHO ARE CLOSETED as PT was who existed in these straight public save face marriages, make women who are in need of sexual validation act FAR WORSE THAN THIS! Even today the above is a sad reality for many women who are married to men who do not desire them sexually and who are in the closet.
@dcasey77 haha no. It is all over the media, men who are in the closet marrying straight. Bearded marriages where BOTH parties no it is a set up is fine but a "down low" union is wrong. Growing up i had a friend who's mum put on a sexy nightgown to entice her husband who was obviously a gay guy in the closet and ended up doing a suburban version of what you see above. its disturbing because it is real!
@BalletBabyBoy Duh!! That's what Ken Russell is saying loud and clear above. and Tchaikovsky was not "totally gay" he had to be in the closet to some extent!!! READ MORE>
I need to see this movie. I love Ken Russell. BTW, the nude woman is Glenda Jackson, Academy Award winner and current member of the London Parliament.
It is not just parts of the Pathetique symphony that is played in this scene. In the veyr climax, it's actually excerpts from his biggest symphony and most romantic symphony by Tchaikovsky, the Manfred Symphony. (first movement)
Ken Russell (RIP) was undoubtedly very talented but he seemed intent on shocking an audience just for the sake of it.
This scene is a prime example of that. This is so over the top that it becomes groteqsue and obscene.
His best films are the ones where he manages to restrain himself as in Women in Love and Mahler.
dcasey77 2 months ago
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BrickLaneBetty 2 months ago
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@dcasey77 sorry you are missing the point of this film entirely. She had a very high sex drive and he did NOT desire women sexually at all. men with low sexdrives OR GAY MEN WHO ARE CLOSETED as PT was who existed in these straight public save face marriages, make women who are in need of sexual validation act FAR WORSE THAN THIS! Even today the above is a sad reality for many women who are married to men who do not desire them sexually and who are in the closet.
BrickLaneBetty 2 months ago
@BrickLaneBetty I can only assume you're saying this from experience as a closeted homosexual who has had several wives.
dcasey77 2 months ago
@dcasey77 haha no. It is all over the media, men who are in the closet marrying straight. Bearded marriages where BOTH parties no it is a set up is fine but a "down low" union is wrong. Growing up i had a friend who's mum put on a sexy nightgown to entice her husband who was obviously a gay guy in the closet and ended up doing a suburban version of what you see above. its disturbing because it is real!
BrickLaneBetty 2 months ago
@BrickLaneBetty Right...
dcasey77 2 months ago
Tchaikovsky was totally gay! This movie is full of crap.
BalletBabyBoy 3 months ago
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@BalletBabyBoy Duh!! That's what Ken Russell is saying loud and clear above. and Tchaikovsky was not "totally gay" he had to be in the closet to some extent!!! READ MORE>
BrickLaneBetty 2 months ago
the music is amazing... it sounds like a hitchcock movie o_0
musicloversgroup 3 months ago
Is it deliberately symbolic that at the end the movement of the train is making her shake her head as if to say 'no'?
oliverbayley1 8 months ago
@oliverbayley1 He's the one saying no, not her.
BrickLaneBetty 2 months ago
That's what happens when you drink too much all of a sudden. Especially champaign.
You can check it on Wikipedia:)
vetromaster 9 months ago
I need to see this movie. I love Ken Russell. BTW, the nude woman is Glenda Jackson, Academy Award winner and current member of the London Parliament.
outinsider 11 months ago
It is not just parts of the Pathetique symphony that is played in this scene. In the veyr climax, it's actually excerpts from his biggest symphony and most romantic symphony by Tchaikovsky, the Manfred Symphony. (first movement)
Stravinsky91 11 months ago
love the motion of the train making him sick along with a nude woman quite tragic to be a fruit!
billthestinker 1 year ago
Great stuff. This film should be released on DVD!
mariavon22 1 year ago
@mariavon22 It's on Netflix.
thinkgood 1 year ago
mariavon22 Many thanks for this information.
mariavon22 1 year ago
A stunning scene; one of Russell's greatest set pieces.
64MDL 1 year ago
Art !!! i love it, the whole film must be brill !!!!
msdeneuve 1 year ago
They both are young and pretty in spite of the horror of this scene - Glenda and RC
allalo99 1 year ago
Manfred!!!!!!
1812Beethovens9th 1 year ago
GRazzzzzzzzzzzzzzie!!
youfeda 1 year ago