Believing in Jesus christ is not the only garentee to salvation, the bible says that God judges according to the heart, which means that Gaundy would not be condemed because God would see what he believes in his heart.
Woe to those who call evil good, thats what we've done. We've lost & reversed R values. We exploited the poor & called it the lottery. We reward laziness & called it welfare. We neglecte to discipline R children & called it building self esteem. We abuse powew & call it politics. We pollut the air with profanity & pornography & called it freedom of expression. We ridiculed values of R forefathers & called it enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, Set us free !
We are posting lies?? haha! Mormons are deceivers sir, and you are a good talker! Being good doesn't get you into Heaven. You have to get saved by believing on Him whom God has sent. On Him alone! Mormons have another god, another jesus and another gospel. You are not Christians. Romney denied what Huckabee said and he is a liar since the mormon jesus and the Devil are indeed spirit brother. This is Mormonism 101 and Romney grew up believing that!Mormons are ashamed of what they believe clearly!
@marcuslebeau Mormons believe in the same God and the same Jesus Christ as any other Christian. They are, indeed, Christians. And just a question: Why would God, who is merciful and loving, only pick a few favorites to send to Earth who believe in him, then damn the rest of His children?
@panda111994 No sir! Mormons are a false god and a false jesus! The false gospel you preach will condemn you. God doesn't send people to Hell! The people chose Hell because they do not worship God as He is. joseph smith taught that his god is an exalted man. He taught that his jesus is born from sexual relationship from the mormon god and mary! mormons believed the lie of the Devil by thinking that they can become gods...
No sir! Mormons HAVE a false god and a false jesus! The false gospel you preach will condemn you. God doesn't send people to Hell! The people chose Hell because they do not worship God as He is. joseph smith taught that his god is an exalted man. He taught that his jesus is born from sexual relationship from the mormon god and mary! mormons believed the lie of the Devil by thinking that they can become gods.
@marcuslebeau I am Mormon, and I know what I believe. If you really want to know what Mormons believe then I would recommend going to an official source, rather than to people who aren't Mormon. You can find accurate information on mormon.org.
@panda111994 mormon.org is a joke! I think they forgot to mentioned that they believe that the Mormon god came from planet kolob to have sex with the virgin Mary to begat the mormon jesus! And all the other weird doctrine!...
@marcuslebeau It's a joke because it DOESN'T talk about weird doctrine? But mormon.org is a site for people learning the basics. You won't find the stuff you're talking about partially because it's not accurate and partially for the same reason a basic Christian site doesn't talk about how Lot's daughters got him drunk to have sex with and get pregnant by their own father in the Old Testament: because it's not relevant.
@TheCruel You are a joke! You are not upfront with what you believe! Your whole religion is a deception! If what you believed wasn't weird, you'll never be ashamed of it! Christians have no weird or secret doctrine! You can read Lot's doctrine in the Bible, it's out there for everyone to know. HAHA! Not relevant! Joseph Smith denying the virgin birth is not relevant?? the Mormon god evolving into godhood is not relevant?? You are too funny!
@marcuslebeau Neither Joseph Smith nor mormons deny the virgin birth. That's a lie and is not doctrone. Just go to lds.org and look at all the manuals and books provided for free for anyone to read. Nothing is hidden. Go look up the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, for instance, if you want to learning about the relationship of godhood and manhood. Nothing is hidden and nobody is embarrassed, only those who are ignorant.
The Bible clearly states that those people are without excuse! Those of course on their way to Hell. Read Romans 1:16-25. The 5 foolish virgins were told to go away for it was too late. The rich man wasn't given a second chance... So you can try to deceive people all you want with your nice speeches, the Bible is what it is. And yes you are right, Baptist know Mormonism better than the Mormons since we know the history of it. Jesus taught at Mathew 16:20 and down that you cannot earn Heaven.
You are truly a deceiver.I was raised Muslim in France and I am now a Baptist and guess what? I live in Utah! N1 Mormons do not believe everyone who is good is going to Heaven with the Father; you have to believe in Joseph Smith to access the highest degree of glory. N2, Mormons do believe that their "Jesus" and the Devil are indeed brothers, since they come from the same heavenly parents. N3, you have to accept Jesus deity as opposed to believing the Trinity to go to Heaven.
Mormons have delivered the vote for Republicans year after year, but the GOP would be wise to remember that Mormons don't actually belong to them. We noticed and will not forget Mike Huckabee's viciously anti-Mormon mockery of Mitt Romney during the 2008 campaign.
If Huckabee is the Republican nominee for president, look for substantial numbers of Mormons to defect or abstain. Mormons are the key to Republican victory in many Western swing states; if Huckabee actually wants their votes, he'd better start mending fences now.
@ leadmeguideme the boy your talking about would go to hell.God is a God of freewill and its up too you on where you wanna spend eternity..to get to heaven you 1/ Admit your a sinner Romans 3-10 2/ Be willing to turn from your sin Acts 17-30 3/ Believe that Jesus died for you Romans 10-9-10 4/ Ask Jesus into your heart Romans 10-13 = Born again.Acts 4-12 Salvation is found under no other name but JESUS! John 14-6 Jesus said i am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father but by me
Steven,, so the boy goes to hell huh!? Arent you special? you were lucky enough to be born in a country where Christ was made known unto you. God must love you more huh. your right, God has given freewill, we are given to act upon certain laws, and we cannot break laws we are ignorant of... and that will never change. As far as your qualifications of being with Christ, i agree but everyone will have the opportunity to accept it wether in this life or in the next(before judgement)
It truly amazes me that you can say you"don't judge people if they don't happen to agree with my beliefs" and in the same sentence"Mike Huckabee...and flat out judge him.You say before that"I love all people who are good." How do you REALLY know who is good and who is bad??Oh wait that is a judgment again. That is the whole point.You and I don't have the right to say who is good and who is bad. You are not the LORD.
think it is wrong for you to say that Mike Huckabee believes that 70% of Americans are going to burn in hell. I have listened to his words and there is no animosity towards people who do not believe what he believes. He always says people can believe what they want. I do not think that people shouldbe so concerned about this and if they are then they are letting something bother their own conscience.
What I have found through much research on the Mormon faith (keeping an open mind) is that there are MANY, again, MANY strange/racist/contradicting "scriptures" in the Book of Mormon that the LDS picks and chooses over what they want to believe in any given debate. They still cannot accept the fact that the Book of Mormon contradicts the Holy Bible, and itself. When presented with that question, the only response you will receive is a question of whether YOU have a correct translation.
The narrator is 100% correct in saying that every Evangelical leader has a well-rehearsed list of anti-Mormon talking points. I personally don't think Mormonism isany more bizarre than Evangelicalism. I think it would be hilarious for the Republican party to nominate Mitt Romney in 2012 and force Evangelical bigots to hold their noses and vote for a Mormon. All these kooky beliefs are an offense to reason and hurtful to civilization, and I hope humanity outgrows them.
The parallelism of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is not unique to Matthews Gospel, but appears elsewhere in the New Testament (e.g., 2 Cor. 13:14, Heb. 9:14), as well as in the writings of the earliest Christians, who clearly understood them in the sense that we do today—that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being (God).
How can you say that the Bible never instructs us to acknowledge the Trinity? That is flat out wrong.
The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19, where Jesus instructs the apostles: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
When you talk of a boy that never experiences God, you go on to state that he becomes a good "man" and gets married and later dies. Then when you want to state that he dies and goes to meet judgement, you then say "the evangelical believes that this 'BOY' is going to burn in hell for eternity". It is you, sir, that are twisting words. Evangelicals believe of an age of accountibility. The 'boy' who has not felt Gods presense calling him would go to heaven.
The "MAN" however, will be called on by God at some point. A grown man will experience God, his calling, and either reject it or accept it. A man that accepts Jesus Christ will go to heaven. One who denies Christ will not. Matthew 10:33 clearly states that a person who denies Christ will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Rev. 3:20 says that he stands at the door and knocks, and he who hears his voice and opens the door, I (Jesus) will come in...John 6:44 clearly says that God draws us to Him.
Boy, Man, that makes no difference. If he never heard of Jesus Christ during his life, even if he lived to 100, he would die and go to hell according to evangelical beliefs. NO MATTER how he lived his life. A person cannot accept Christ in this life unless they hear his name and teachings, so this Man would not be able to do that. Bottom line, unless you believe they will have a chance to hear his name and teachings in the next life, evangelicals believe he will go to hell. This is fact.
So lastly let me say this. Our differences are very clear. Christians believe that the Holy Bible is accurate, and without contradiction. The Book of Mormon contradicts not only the Holy Bible, but also itself. Everything is different from the character of God, the conception of Jesus, the afterlife, and salvation. You can call yourselves a "religion", but to specify that you are Christians while blatantly ignoring such Biblical contradiction is an outright blasphemy.
@Smetch -- What did Christians think of Romney issuing 378 marriage licenses to same-sex couples in 2004-06? More than any other action by Romney, these special licenses demonstrated where his heart was on the same-sex marriage issue since they were purely discretionary. There was no mandate forcing Romney to issue such licenses. This calls into question his authenticity as an alleged social conservative candidate.
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."
I like Mike Huckabee. I watch his show on fox sometimes. He's a great down to earth kind of guy. I'm kind of partial to the fair tax as well. He would have been a great VP for Mitt! :)
Before the Protestant Reformation, all Christians held Sacred Scripture (Bible) and Sacred Tradition (Church) as equal-weighted truths for knowing God, His will, and His commands.
A Mormon claiming to believe in the "Bible Jesus" is choosing to ignore 50% of what God has revealed to us, and thus misunderstanding some things.
A Church should be more than a place where you go to feel good. It should have institution by God, and it should have historical roots in Jesus Christ.
Yeah, I thought it was funny awhile back on his Huckabee show on foxnews where somebody asked him a question about Mormons supporting prop 8 and he knew that he had to only say good things about LDS for doing it. It was priceless. He's a good guy though. I believe he's got a good heart and thinks that he is doing the right thing.
It is important to realize that other people think differently than you, and just because you think you communicated clearly doesn't mean everyone else understood it the same way you meant it to be understood.
Well, I was simply mocking religion and the rest of the progress stunting populace. I really didn't care if others could get my meaning (really wasn't hard to understand). If I explained the whole thing (such as you would in say, a paper) the whole joke would have been lost in my opinion.
I was just making apparent your inability to think objectively, and that is definitely something you should work on. If you can't make an objective point without "writing a paper," then you should really work on that... I don't know how you found a way to throw an ad hominem in there when I was only trying to help you. Try not to be such a bigot.
Viewers need not believe the guy who made this video OR Huckabe for that matter ...the 1800's are NOT that long ago ... in spite of the mormon church's desperate moves to conceal,deny, spin, tweak its doctrines years later out of political or religious "correctness" we can read in PLAIN english what the founding prophets of mormonism really taught and said...view can go to this site REAL MORMON HISTORY and see for themselves...the quotes there can be verified in ANY library or book-store...
Unfortunately, humans are NOT good. No one can live a perfect, good life, no matter how many good works you do, we're ALL going to fail. Therefore, we need a Savior, Jesus Christ - who being in very nature, God, is the only one to live a perfect life, and then sacrifice his life on the cross in atonement for ALL human sin. "For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift - not from works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9. God is just and holy
You've raised some extremely good points in your video and in some of your comments that you've posted. I just don't get why people can't leave well enough alone. It really bugs me that, while the beliefs of others can be criticized to no end, that the LDS Church seems to take the brunt of all the criticism. Other churches don't have HALF the critics that the LDS Church does. And other churches believe things that can be perceived as "taboo" or "out in left field". Pot calling the kettle black.
This is just one example of how the LDS church wants to be in control of the information, and the LDS people. The LDS church isn't a church anymore, it's a business. They have to protect their business.
You don't know what Huckabee knows or doesn't know about Mormonism. You are just upset that a belief of the LDS church got out that makes the LDS church look bad. The truth is the LDS does believe that Jesus and Lucifer are "spirit" brothers. Just as they believe that Jesus and Lucifer are our "spirit" brothers.
Mike Huckabee was a key speaker at a Baptist convention in Salt Lake City and passed out an anti-Mormon book to all media in attendance (this is late 90's) do some research on it and then tell me he doesnt know much about Mormons.
Do you mean anti-Mormon or anti-Mormonism? In the video did you say that he passed out an "anti-Mormon" book? You said that he asked about what the LDS believe about Jesus and Lucifer, being "brothers". If you want to go back to the 90's, then explain to me why it's ok, for Romney to flip flop on issues, like abortion and same sex marriage?
Wow, that is an impressive attempt to change the conversation but I'm not falling for it. Lets recap, you said I do not know if Mike actually knows anything about Mormonism, I proved that he obviously did (would you hand out a book you hadnt read yourself?) So the next step is you either argue that my facts about Mike are wrong, or you admit he does know about Mormonism and was lying. After we are done with that topic, I will gladly move on to a new topic and address Your questions about Mitt.
Ok, first of all keep your "priesthood" to yourself. You have no authority over me.
Secondly, I honestly don't know what Huckabee knows or doesn't know about Mormonism. I have never seen this book; all I have is your word for it. Please provide a non-LDS resource for this "book" and for what he did.
Thirdly, since you are so interested in digging up Huckabees the past, I thought that you wouldn't mind talking about Romney's.
Keep my Priesthood to myself? I didnt offer it to you..yep..just read over my posts and no mention of Priesthood. Its funny, you had time to listen to my video and make multiple posts, but when I offer proof that proves you wrong about Mike, you suddenly don;t have time to use Google and find out about it. You are the one who made a statement about what Mike knows. I proved it wrong, it is now your choice to admit you were wrong or prove that there was no conference he attended.
There is not much to this discussion. Here is a recap. You claimed that I don't know if Huckabee knows about Mormonism or not, I brought up the FACT that he circulated a book on Mormonism at a Baptist convention (go to newsmax com and search Huckabee Mormon, this story was everywhere)Unless he circulated a book he had never himself read, this proves he knows all about Mormonism. Add these FACTS together and we KNOW Huckabee lied about his knowledge of the Mormon faith.
If you have any facts or intelligent opinion to argue my facts, please do share. Up to this point you have basically just posted character attacks, this of course without knowing anything about me...that is called stereotyping and is generally frowned upon.
Most pastors don't know much about Mormonism. I left the LDS over a year ago. I've had many conversations with my pastor on different things about Mormonism. He didn't know about Mormonism. Maybe pastor's out west know more about Mormonism, because of the number of LDS churches out there.
They believe God the Father was once a man, but "progressed" to godhood. He has a physical body, as does his wife (Heavenly Mother). No Trinity. Father, Son, & Holy Ghost are three separate gods. Worthy men may one day become gods themselves.
Other churches criticize the LDS church when they themselves know that christ came in the flesh, was a baby, teen, then a grown-up man. Didn't Jesus progress to Godhood? Didn't Jesus come back to his apostles and say "see the spirit hath not flesh and bone as ye see me have" They believe in the resurrection right? Then why celebrate easter? Trinity is a man-made unauthoritative Nicene Creed. So did Jesus pray to himself? How ignorant to believe such.
The Trinity existed long before the Nicene Creed and the concept exists in the Bible. Also, Jesus was not praying to Himself; the PERSON of Jesus was praying to the PERSON of the Father. Jesus and the Father are two different persons, one divine substance.
The belief of God and Christ being separate beings also existed long before the Bible, that belief was held by many of the original Christian fathers..so does that make it automatically true?
Check out the book "the apostolic fathers", it is not written by a Mormon, but shows that many founding christians held beliefs that the same as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints.
I beleive God is Triune (one God in three Persons, not three gods): Father, Son, & Holy Spirit."God" designates the first Person, God the Father. God is a spiritual being without a physical body. He is personal & involved with people. He created the universe out of nothing. He is eternal, changeless, holy, loving, & perfect.
Help me understand something.If Christ and God are the same person, and If God doesn't have a body, why did he get resurrected and come back and go out of his way to show the apostles that he still had a physical, tangible body that looked just like a man? Does he dump this body when he doesnt feel like using it?
please explain then how Christ had a physical and perfected body after his death. One which he showed to the apostles...Was Gods substance inside of that body temporarily or was that substance left somewhere during his return?
Help me understand something.If Christ and God are the same person, and If God doesn't have a body, why did he get resurrected and come back and go out of his way to show the apostles that he still had a physical, tangible body that looked just like a man? Does he dump this body when he doesnt feel like using it?
Well that is God for ya, He has created everything that is visible and invisible such as the wind. You can see the effect of the wind by see the leaves on a tree blowing around but you cannnot see the wind it's self. So I'll show you another parable about the Trinity. Ok, Well from what I see your a man who is replying to my notes am I right? Ok so your a father, brother, uncle, if not a father your a son am I right so far? Ok well as you see there you are one man but three different roles .
They believe Jesus is a separate god from the Father (Elohim). He was created as a spirit child by the Father & Mother in Heaven, & is the "elder brother" of all men & spirit beings. His body was created through sexual union between Elohim & Mary. Also Jesus was married. His death on the cross does not provide full atonement for all sin, but provides everyone resurrection.
Matt 12:50 Jesus even says that those who do the will of the father the same is his brother, sister, and mother. The account that you anti's get of having sex with mary is from B. Youngs talk that anti's interprete incorrectly, B. Young said "the Father came himself and "favored" that spirit with a tabernacle. Anti's put in "sex" thus they lie and say it's gospel teaching in the LDS faith. Jesus being married is implied, not taught and it is not doctrine, my how the anti's lie!
I believe Jesus is God, the 2ed Person of the Trinity. As God the Son, He has always existed & was never created. He is fully God & fully man (the two natures joined, not mix).
As the 2ed Person of the Trinity, He is coequal with God the Father & the Holy Spirit. In becoming man, He wasbegotten through the Holy Spirit & born of the virgin Mary. Jesus is the only way to the Father, salvation, & eternal life. He died on a cross according to God's plan, as full sacrifice & payment for our sins.
Also I believe He rose from the dead on the third day, spiritually & physically immortal. For the next 40 days He was seen by more than 500 eyewitnesses. His wounds were touched & He ate meals. He physically ascended to Heaven. Jesus will come again visibly & physically at the end of the world to establish God's kingdom & judge the world.
3in one belief system, believe that Jesus, though he prayed to the Father was really praying to himself! When on the cross "into thy hands I commend my spirit" but really was commending himself into his own hands. That when he said he'd stand at the right hand of God means he will be standing at his own right hand. Make sense? Doesn't have to. But wait a minute God is not the author of confusion, says so in the scriptures! 1 Cor 14:33.
They believe the "holy spirit" is different from the "Holy Ghost." The "holy spirit" is not God, but is an influence or elecricity-like emanation from God (or "light of Christ").
I believe the Holy Spirit is God, the third Person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit is a person, not a force or energy field. He comforts, grives, reproves, convicts, guides, teaches, & fills Christians. He is not the Father, nor is he the Son, Jesus Christ.
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Hey leadmeguide me. Love the video. Im sure by now you have seen this wacko Shawn Mccraney. Just type born again mormon in the search engine and take a look at any of his 300 videos. After you have taken a gander at one of those. Type in Born Again mormon Crazy and take a look at my video. I think you will enjoy it much. :-) Keep up the good work. Enjoyed your video.
Forgive? No need, in fact, since were talking meats here I'd like to thank you for Canadian Bacon! Hawaiin style pizza wouldn't be the same without it.
Dude, I love you. Thank you so much for your videos! I love that you're being so open about our beliefs and you're open to critical thinking about our faith. Isn't that what Joseph Smith did? You're amazing! God bless you!
MITT ROMNEY might win the Republican Nomination because he has the most money 250 Million US. But, you and I both know that MITT ROMNEY will never be President of the United States. WHY? Because the majority of Americans don't recognize the Mormon religion as Christian and neither do I.
Not even GW Bush believes in your Constitution. Didn't he refer to it has an "piece of paper." The only politician that seems to believe in your constitution is Dr Ron Paul.
"the majority of Americans don't recognize the Mormon religion as Christian and neither do I. "
I'm portuguese and I really don't care who is going to be the next EUA President, but I wonder if is a democratic attitude to discriminate a candidate based in his religion
Slavers, yes we were like most of the world use to be and we were also one of the first countries to abolish slavery. BTW we don't judge political candidates based in his religion but in their skills. Religious prejudice isn't democratic!!!
Read my comments, I said "like most of the World" I never talked about Australia, but if I'm not wrong Australia was a British colony and the British Empire also was involved in the slave trading. And the point isn't the slave trading but your religious intolerance and mixing it with politics (just like the Muslims!!!).
So from a couple of lines on a feedback column you have suddenly deduced that I am religiously intolerant and not only that I am also as bad as an muslim who is religiously intolerant.
How dare you JUDGE ME you don't even know me.
Keep to the facts, don't play the PERSON, play the ISSUE. Don't you know how to debate?
I'm evaluating your comment: "the majority of Americans don't recognize the Mormon religion as Christian and neither do I." This comment is intolerant because you are saying we mustn't vote in someone because of his religion.
Your comment was intolerant, obviously I'm talking about your comment not the person. Don't play the victim role because doesn't work with me. The one who don't know how to debate it's you because you are trying to change subject all the time.
"Change the subject? your the one that brought slavery into the debate" Lol was me? No it was you. Read the comments.
"Victim the Portuguese are renowned around the world for playing the victim." Another prejudiced comment, the Portuguese have all kind of people just like the Australians.
Here we have an expert of my country lol You are not talking seriously. Why do you say Portugal isn't multicultural? And what's the relevance to your intolerant and prejudiced talk?
Portugal have cultural influences from Phoenicians, Celts, Romans, Muslims, Visigods (barbarians), Africans and many more. We existed as a country since 1143 AD (way before Australia). We also spread our culture in Brasil, Africa, India. We have more than 1M of Population working outside Portugal.
Quit starting your own pointless pathetic holy wars, LeadMeguideMe; the Christians who's church has, according to you, "been corrupted by Satan" includes people with much more credibility than you (i.e. MLK Jr., Brian "head" Welch, George Washington, etc.) I guess MLK was being deceived by Satan for fighting for black people's rights? It sure seems that way to Mormons, considering the church basically ousted blacks from their church for quite some time.
Dude, you cant say that huckabee believes that 70% of american s will go to hell. if i used the attitude you have towards Mitt, i could come up with a lot more statements verbalized against against romney that would make him look even worse and stir up a lot more doupt about romney's beliefs
No, I can say that because that is what Huckabees Evangelical beliefs teach, Mitt Romneys beliefs on the after life, as I state in this video do not believe those people will go to hell. So it is accurate, and therefore I can say it.
1. Mormons do not believe in reincarnation (where did you get that from?)
2. Salvation comes only through grace, but read James and you will realize that God isnt going to hand out Grace to those who dont follow his commandments.
3.not enough room to respond
and the answer is the sword of Laban is Labans sword
Preexistence: Job 38:1-7; Heb. 12:9,10; Acts 17:28,29; etc.). One example is Jeremiah 1:5: Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Historically the story is simply this: belief in the premortal existence of the soul was dropped from Christianity in A.D. 553 by an edict known as the Anathemas against Origen, promulgated by the Roman emperor Justinian. The Pope consented under extreme duress. [Philip Schaff and Henry Wace, eds., Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Second Series, vol. XIV (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1956), p. 320; cf.
If you admit that faith without works is dead, then you admit you have to do works.
If I ask you what has to be done to be saved, and you give ANY answer, it means SOMETHNG has to be done, pure grace would mean not having to do a thing...anything beyond that is works...sorry
it is also somewhat of a misconseption. the example of the boy and the question of what will happen when he meets Jesus, is a great one. the truth is that God is merciful and reasonable God. he will judge each individual individually. if this boy never even had a chance to hear about Jesus, but lived an honest life with integrity, Jesus will know exactly what to do with this boy. it is absolutely wrong for an evangelical to have a strong opinion on this.
Then why do they have such strong opinions on this? I am not putting words in the mouths of Evangelicals, I have talked to thousands and they all say that a person must vocally accept Jesus, as Peter did, and there is no other way than that. Again, thats not my opinion, just stubborn facts.
You are the one claiming mormons believe in works over grace, I cant define works for you, you brought it into the conversation! You are worse than a politician. Ill make this simple, Mormons believe that Christ and only Christ can save a person, however Christ will not save people who dont follow his COMMANDments. Do you think they are the ten suggestions or the ten commandments?
Good question, you are the one claiming Moromons believe is works, so what are they? Mormons believe in being saved by grace, but we also believe that we must follow Gods commandments. Again, you (as I have shown twice now) are the one using the term works, so only you can define it.
His Holy Spirit empowers me and helps me live for him.
I don't believe that works can save you, I don't believe that just following the 10 commandments can save you, only His blood sacrifice can save and believing on what He has accomplished through the cross, the forgiveness of sins.
I am glad that you dont believe that just following the 10 commandments can save you. Mormons Dont believe that either, Mormons believe you need Christs grace to save you. So apparently agree.
You specifically said that there was a percentage of works necessary, scroll down, YOU SAID IT...but you apparently dont know how much of a percentage..looks like you are lost!!
Believing in Jesus christ is not the only garentee to salvation, the bible says that God judges according to the heart, which means that Gaundy would not be condemed because God would see what he believes in his heart.
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Woe to those who call evil good, thats what we've done. We've lost & reversed R values. We exploited the poor & called it the lottery. We reward laziness & called it welfare. We neglecte to discipline R children & called it building self esteem. We abuse powew & call it politics. We pollut the air with profanity & pornography & called it freedom of expression. We ridiculed values of R forefathers & called it enlightenment. Search us, Oh God, Set us free !
onstageagain 5 months ago
This isn't Romney talking.
panda111994 7 months ago
• You got my vote Governor Mitt Romney 2012
PresMittRomney2012 8 months ago
We are posting lies?? haha! Mormons are deceivers sir, and you are a good talker! Being good doesn't get you into Heaven. You have to get saved by believing on Him whom God has sent. On Him alone! Mormons have another god, another jesus and another gospel. You are not Christians. Romney denied what Huckabee said and he is a liar since the mormon jesus and the Devil are indeed spirit brother. This is Mormonism 101 and Romney grew up believing that!Mormons are ashamed of what they believe clearly!
marcuslebeau 10 months ago
@marcuslebeau Mormons believe in the same God and the same Jesus Christ as any other Christian. They are, indeed, Christians. And just a question: Why would God, who is merciful and loving, only pick a few favorites to send to Earth who believe in him, then damn the rest of His children?
panda111994 7 months ago
@panda111994 No sir! Mormons are a false god and a false jesus! The false gospel you preach will condemn you. God doesn't send people to Hell! The people chose Hell because they do not worship God as He is. joseph smith taught that his god is an exalted man. He taught that his jesus is born from sexual relationship from the mormon god and mary! mormons believed the lie of the Devil by thinking that they can become gods...
marcuslebeau 7 months ago
No sir! Mormons HAVE a false god and a false jesus! The false gospel you preach will condemn you. God doesn't send people to Hell! The people chose Hell because they do not worship God as He is. joseph smith taught that his god is an exalted man. He taught that his jesus is born from sexual relationship from the mormon god and mary! mormons believed the lie of the Devil by thinking that they can become gods.
marcuslebeau 7 months ago
@marcuslebeau I am Mormon, and I know what I believe. If you really want to know what Mormons believe then I would recommend going to an official source, rather than to people who aren't Mormon. You can find accurate information on mormon.org.
panda111994 7 months ago
@panda111994 mormon.org is a joke! I think they forgot to mentioned that they believe that the Mormon god came from planet kolob to have sex with the virgin Mary to begat the mormon jesus! And all the other weird doctrine!...
marcuslebeau 6 months ago
@marcuslebeau It's a joke because it DOESN'T talk about weird doctrine? But mormon.org is a site for people learning the basics. You won't find the stuff you're talking about partially because it's not accurate and partially for the same reason a basic Christian site doesn't talk about how Lot's daughters got him drunk to have sex with and get pregnant by their own father in the Old Testament: because it's not relevant.
TheCruel 2 weeks ago
@TheCruel You are a joke! You are not upfront with what you believe! Your whole religion is a deception! If what you believed wasn't weird, you'll never be ashamed of it! Christians have no weird or secret doctrine! You can read Lot's doctrine in the Bible, it's out there for everyone to know. HAHA! Not relevant! Joseph Smith denying the virgin birth is not relevant?? the Mormon god evolving into godhood is not relevant?? You are too funny!
marcuslebeau 3 days ago
@marcuslebeau Neither Joseph Smith nor mormons deny the virgin birth. That's a lie and is not doctrone. Just go to lds.org and look at all the manuals and books provided for free for anyone to read. Nothing is hidden. Go look up the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, for instance, if you want to learning about the relationship of godhood and manhood. Nothing is hidden and nobody is embarrassed, only those who are ignorant.
TheCruel 3 days ago
The Bible clearly states that those people are without excuse! Those of course on their way to Hell. Read Romans 1:16-25. The 5 foolish virgins were told to go away for it was too late. The rich man wasn't given a second chance... So you can try to deceive people all you want with your nice speeches, the Bible is what it is. And yes you are right, Baptist know Mormonism better than the Mormons since we know the history of it. Jesus taught at Mathew 16:20 and down that you cannot earn Heaven.
marcuslebeau 10 months ago
You are truly a deceiver.I was raised Muslim in France and I am now a Baptist and guess what? I live in Utah! N1 Mormons do not believe everyone who is good is going to Heaven with the Father; you have to believe in Joseph Smith to access the highest degree of glory. N2, Mormons do believe that their "Jesus" and the Devil are indeed brothers, since they come from the same heavenly parents. N3, you have to accept Jesus deity as opposed to believing the Trinity to go to Heaven.
marcuslebeau 10 months ago
Mormons have delivered the vote for Republicans year after year, but the GOP would be wise to remember that Mormons don't actually belong to them. We noticed and will not forget Mike Huckabee's viciously anti-Mormon mockery of Mitt Romney during the 2008 campaign.
omiolo 1 year ago
If Huckabee is the Republican nominee for president, look for substantial numbers of Mormons to defect or abstain. Mormons are the key to Republican victory in many Western swing states; if Huckabee actually wants their votes, he'd better start mending fences now.
-Orson Scott Card
omiolo 1 year ago
@ leadmeguideme the boy your talking about would go to hell.God is a God of freewill and its up too you on where you wanna spend eternity..to get to heaven you 1/ Admit your a sinner Romans 3-10 2/ Be willing to turn from your sin Acts 17-30 3/ Believe that Jesus died for you Romans 10-9-10 4/ Ask Jesus into your heart Romans 10-13 = Born again.Acts 4-12 Salvation is found under no other name but JESUS! John 14-6 Jesus said i am the way the truth and the life no one comes to the father but by me
Stevensolo1 1 year ago
@Stevensolo1
Steven,, so the boy goes to hell huh!? Arent you special? you were lucky enough to be born in a country where Christ was made known unto you. God must love you more huh. your right, God has given freewill, we are given to act upon certain laws, and we cannot break laws we are ignorant of... and that will never change. As far as your qualifications of being with Christ, i agree but everyone will have the opportunity to accept it wether in this life or in the next(before judgement)
CaptainMoroniMsgs 11 months ago
It truly amazes me that you can say you"don't judge people if they don't happen to agree with my beliefs" and in the same sentence"Mike Huckabee...and flat out judge him.You say before that"I love all people who are good." How do you REALLY know who is good and who is bad??Oh wait that is a judgment again. That is the whole point.You and I don't have the right to say who is good and who is bad. You are not the LORD.
nikimac55 1 year ago
think it is wrong for you to say that Mike Huckabee believes that 70% of Americans are going to burn in hell. I have listened to his words and there is no animosity towards people who do not believe what he believes. He always says people can believe what they want. I do not think that people shouldbe so concerned about this and if they are then they are letting something bother their own conscience.
brandyanne777 1 year ago
What I have found through much research on the Mormon faith (keeping an open mind) is that there are MANY, again, MANY strange/racist/contradicting "scriptures" in the Book of Mormon that the LDS picks and chooses over what they want to believe in any given debate. They still cannot accept the fact that the Book of Mormon contradicts the Holy Bible, and itself. When presented with that question, the only response you will receive is a question of whether YOU have a correct translation.
markpierce96 1 year ago
The narrator is 100% correct in saying that every Evangelical leader has a well-rehearsed list of anti-Mormon talking points. I personally don't think Mormonism isany more bizarre than Evangelicalism. I think it would be hilarious for the Republican party to nominate Mitt Romney in 2012 and force Evangelical bigots to hold their noses and vote for a Mormon. All these kooky beliefs are an offense to reason and hurtful to civilization, and I hope humanity outgrows them.
luvdomus 1 year ago
The parallelism of the Father, the Son, and the Spirit is not unique to Matthews Gospel, but appears elsewhere in the New Testament (e.g., 2 Cor. 13:14, Heb. 9:14), as well as in the writings of the earliest Christians, who clearly understood them in the sense that we do today—that the Father, the Son, and the Spirit are three divine persons who are one divine being (God).
shawnswisher 1 year ago
How can you say that the Bible never instructs us to acknowledge the Trinity? That is flat out wrong.
The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19, where Jesus instructs the apostles: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
shawnswisher 1 year ago
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Joseph Smith is a con artist,a pervert,a child molester,a bigamist and a murderer and Brigham Young took over where he left off ,only more so
wgordon8 1 year ago
This video is ignorant of Christian belief.
Smetch 2 years ago
Like what? Care to give a specific example of what was incorrect? If I am in fact incorrect I will gladly change it.
LeadmeGuideme 2 years ago
When you talk of a boy that never experiences God, you go on to state that he becomes a good "man" and gets married and later dies. Then when you want to state that he dies and goes to meet judgement, you then say "the evangelical believes that this 'BOY' is going to burn in hell for eternity". It is you, sir, that are twisting words. Evangelicals believe of an age of accountibility. The 'boy' who has not felt Gods presense calling him would go to heaven.
markpierce96 1 year ago
The "MAN" however, will be called on by God at some point. A grown man will experience God, his calling, and either reject it or accept it. A man that accepts Jesus Christ will go to heaven. One who denies Christ will not. Matthew 10:33 clearly states that a person who denies Christ will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Rev. 3:20 says that he stands at the door and knocks, and he who hears his voice and opens the door, I (Jesus) will come in...John 6:44 clearly says that God draws us to Him.
markpierce96 1 year ago
Boy, Man, that makes no difference. If he never heard of Jesus Christ during his life, even if he lived to 100, he would die and go to hell according to evangelical beliefs. NO MATTER how he lived his life. A person cannot accept Christ in this life unless they hear his name and teachings, so this Man would not be able to do that. Bottom line, unless you believe they will have a chance to hear his name and teachings in the next life, evangelicals believe he will go to hell. This is fact.
LeadmeGuideme 1 year ago
So lastly let me say this. Our differences are very clear. Christians believe that the Holy Bible is accurate, and without contradiction. The Book of Mormon contradicts not only the Holy Bible, but also itself. Everything is different from the character of God, the conception of Jesus, the afterlife, and salvation. You can call yourselves a "religion", but to specify that you are Christians while blatantly ignoring such Biblical contradiction is an outright blasphemy.
markpierce96 1 year ago
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@Smetch -- What did Christians think of Romney issuing 378 marriage licenses to same-sex couples in 2004-06? More than any other action by Romney, these special licenses demonstrated where his heart was on the same-sex marriage issue since they were purely discretionary. There was no mandate forcing Romney to issue such licenses. This calls into question his authenticity as an alleged social conservative candidate.
vechorik 2 months ago
Biblical Proof that Jesus Christ visited the Americas
John 10:16
"And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."
pangeanet 2 years ago
I'd love to hear a satisfactory response to this from other "Christian" churches...
pangeanet 2 years ago
leadmegudieme it says Canaan the son of HAM which is the NEGRO which is the AFRICAN RACE can't argue FACTS READ
...Canaan,the son of Ham...hence the NEGRO or AFRICAN RACE..
(LDS MORMON APOSTLE Orson Hyde,
Nauvoo.April 27th,1845,printed in Liverpool, page 30)
HERE is HAM
24...(BLACK AFRICAN)Ham,sprang that race which preserved the CURSE in the land(LDS Abraham1:23-24)
here is Canaan
"...the LORD shall CURSE the land..A BLACKNESS came upon all the(BLACK AFRICANS)...of Canaan...(LDS Moses7:8)"
Ilegalplayer 2 years ago
I like Mike Huckabee. I watch his show on fox sometimes. He's a great down to earth kind of guy. I'm kind of partial to the fair tax as well. He would have been a great VP for Mitt! :)
ChristopherMillz 2 years ago
And finally, I say this:
Before the Protestant Reformation, all Christians held Sacred Scripture (Bible) and Sacred Tradition (Church) as equal-weighted truths for knowing God, His will, and His commands.
A Mormon claiming to believe in the "Bible Jesus" is choosing to ignore 50% of what God has revealed to us, and thus misunderstanding some things.
MyLegendarySelf 2 years ago
A Church should be more than a place where you go to feel good. It should have institution by God, and it should have historical roots in Jesus Christ.
MyLegendarySelf 2 years ago
well said. Thank you. I noticed multiple times where Huckabee tried to subtly introduce non mormon views into the campaign.
sobadsoccer 2 years ago
Yeah, I thought it was funny awhile back on his Huckabee show on foxnews where somebody asked him a question about Mormons supporting prop 8 and he knew that he had to only say good things about LDS for doing it. It was priceless. He's a good guy though. I believe he's got a good heart and thinks that he is doing the right thing.
ChristopherMillz 2 years ago
God bless Atheism!
Gobgee 3 years ago
God bless atheists, not atheism.
MyLegendarySelf 2 years ago
Well I don't need an imaginary person blessing me or anyone else.
Gobgee 2 years ago
You did 2 months ago, in your previous post.
MyLegendarySelf 2 years ago
Well can't you see the underlying statement in the "god bless atheism" statement. It was a joke about religion and god in general.
Gobgee 2 years ago
It is important to realize that other people think differently than you, and just because you think you communicated clearly doesn't mean everyone else understood it the same way you meant it to be understood.
MyLegendarySelf 2 years ago
Well, I was simply mocking religion and the rest of the progress stunting populace. I really didn't care if others could get my meaning (really wasn't hard to understand). If I explained the whole thing (such as you would in say, a paper) the whole joke would have been lost in my opinion.
Gobgee 2 years ago
I was just making apparent your inability to think objectively, and that is definitely something you should work on. If you can't make an objective point without "writing a paper," then you should really work on that... I don't know how you found a way to throw an ad hominem in there when I was only trying to help you. Try not to be such a bigot.
MyLegendarySelf 2 years ago
Viewers need not believe the guy who made this video OR Huckabe for that matter ...the 1800's are NOT that long ago ... in spite of the mormon church's desperate moves to conceal,deny, spin, tweak its doctrines years later out of political or religious "correctness" we can read in PLAIN english what the founding prophets of mormonism really taught and said...view can go to this site REAL MORMON HISTORY and see for themselves...the quotes there can be verified in ANY library or book-store...
dimtry19 3 years ago
Unfortunately, humans are NOT good. No one can live a perfect, good life, no matter how many good works you do, we're ALL going to fail. Therefore, we need a Savior, Jesus Christ - who being in very nature, God, is the only one to live a perfect life, and then sacrifice his life on the cross in atonement for ALL human sin. "For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is God's gift - not from works, so that no one can boast." Ephesians 2:8-9. God is just and holy
LOLsmileMEDs 3 years ago
5 stars from an atheist!! Take care.
infinitecycle 3 years ago 2
Big up hommie!
Great job.
ragz247 3 years ago
GODHEAD
-The baptism of jesus when God speaks as a seperate personage (Matt 3:15-17)
-Jesus talks to God while in the Garden of Gethsemane (Matt 26:39-42)
-God the father is the greatest (John 14:28)
-God and Jesus are one in purpose, but not in person (John 17:20-22)
-Jesus had not yet accended to his father (John 20:17-18
-Holy Ghost Jesus and God are seperate physical beings (Acts 7:55)
-There are three separate persons of the godhead (1 john 5:7)
Tanner016 3 years ago
By works
-You will be rewarded according to your works (Matt 16;27
-You cry Lord Lord and do not what I say (Luke 6:46-49)
-We must be doers and not just hearers
(James 1:22-25)
-Your works will show your faith
(James 2:14-26)
Tanner016 3 years ago
It's sad, but they way things are, the majority of Americans ARE heading towards eternal damnation.
Andyroo2319 3 years ago
You've raised some extremely good points in your video and in some of your comments that you've posted. I just don't get why people can't leave well enough alone. It really bugs me that, while the beliefs of others can be criticized to no end, that the LDS Church seems to take the brunt of all the criticism. Other churches don't have HALF the critics that the LDS Church does. And other churches believe things that can be perceived as "taboo" or "out in left field". Pot calling the kettle black.
doctorworm12983 3 years ago
bro,your remarks were awesome
good job!
GorillaSaint 3 years ago
This is just one example of how the LDS church wants to be in control of the information, and the LDS people. The LDS church isn't a church anymore, it's a business. They have to protect their business.
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
You don't know what Huckabee knows or doesn't know about Mormonism. You are just upset that a belief of the LDS church got out that makes the LDS church look bad. The truth is the LDS does believe that Jesus and Lucifer are "spirit" brothers. Just as they believe that Jesus and Lucifer are our "spirit" brothers.
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
Mike Huckabee was a key speaker at a Baptist convention in Salt Lake City and passed out an anti-Mormon book to all media in attendance (this is late 90's) do some research on it and then tell me he doesnt know much about Mormons.
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
Do you mean anti-Mormon or anti-Mormonism? In the video did you say that he passed out an "anti-Mormon" book? You said that he asked about what the LDS believe about Jesus and Lucifer, being "brothers". If you want to go back to the 90's, then explain to me why it's ok, for Romney to flip flop on issues, like abortion and same sex marriage?
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
Wow, that is an impressive attempt to change the conversation but I'm not falling for it. Lets recap, you said I do not know if Mike actually knows anything about Mormonism, I proved that he obviously did (would you hand out a book you hadnt read yourself?) So the next step is you either argue that my facts about Mike are wrong, or you admit he does know about Mormonism and was lying. After we are done with that topic, I will gladly move on to a new topic and address Your questions about Mitt.
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
Ok, first of all keep your "priesthood" to yourself. You have no authority over me.
Secondly, I honestly don't know what Huckabee knows or doesn't know about Mormonism. I have never seen this book; all I have is your word for it. Please provide a non-LDS resource for this "book" and for what he did.
Thirdly, since you are so interested in digging up Huckabees the past, I thought that you wouldn't mind talking about Romney's.
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
Keep my Priesthood to myself? I didnt offer it to you..yep..just read over my posts and no mention of Priesthood. Its funny, you had time to listen to my video and make multiple posts, but when I offer proof that proves you wrong about Mike, you suddenly don;t have time to use Google and find out about it. You are the one who made a statement about what Mike knows. I proved it wrong, it is now your choice to admit you were wrong or prove that there was no conference he attended.
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
You proved nothing.
LDS men always try to show they have authority over non-LDS people.
I did a Google search about it all I came up with is LDS people complaining about it.
I found nothing that said Huckabee made up the "books" and hand delivered to the people, nothing about the books being against the LDS people.
There is a big difference in something being anti-Mormon (against the people) and anti-Mormonism (against the religion).
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
There is not much to this discussion. Here is a recap. You claimed that I don't know if Huckabee knows about Mormonism or not, I brought up the FACT that he circulated a book on Mormonism at a Baptist convention (go to newsmax com and search Huckabee Mormon, this story was everywhere)Unless he circulated a book he had never himself read, this proves he knows all about Mormonism. Add these FACTS together and we KNOW Huckabee lied about his knowledge of the Mormon faith.
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
If you have any facts or intelligent opinion to argue my facts, please do share. Up to this point you have basically just posted character attacks, this of course without knowing anything about me...that is called stereotyping and is generally frowned upon.
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
Most pastors don't know much about Mormonism. I left the LDS over a year ago. I've had many conversations with my pastor on different things about Mormonism. He didn't know about Mormonism. Maybe pastor's out west know more about Mormonism, because of the number of LDS churches out there.
MistyAnn0414 3 years ago
Mormonisum is a cult and I hear alot of wrong things on this video. Sorry.
3trinity7 3 years ago
Name one wrong thing.
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
They believe God the Father was once a man, but "progressed" to godhood. He has a physical body, as does his wife (Heavenly Mother). No Trinity. Father, Son, & Holy Ghost are three separate gods. Worthy men may one day become gods themselves.
3trinity7 3 years ago
Other churches criticize the LDS church when they themselves know that christ came in the flesh, was a baby, teen, then a grown-up man. Didn't Jesus progress to Godhood? Didn't Jesus come back to his apostles and say "see the spirit hath not flesh and bone as ye see me have" They believe in the resurrection right? Then why celebrate easter? Trinity is a man-made unauthoritative Nicene Creed. So did Jesus pray to himself? How ignorant to believe such.
dirkhunter 3 years ago
The Trinity existed long before the Nicene Creed and the concept exists in the Bible. Also, Jesus was not praying to Himself; the PERSON of Jesus was praying to the PERSON of the Father. Jesus and the Father are two different persons, one divine substance.
slbrail87 3 years ago
The belief of God and Christ being separate beings also existed long before the Bible, that belief was held by many of the original Christian fathers..so does that make it automatically true?
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
No answer?
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
I have to do some research. Let me get back to you on that one.
slbrail87 3 years ago
sounds good brother
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
Check out the book "the apostolic fathers", it is not written by a Mormon, but shows that many founding christians held beliefs that the same as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints.
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
I might do that.
slbrail87 3 years ago
I beleive God is Triune (one God in three Persons, not three gods): Father, Son, & Holy Spirit."God" designates the first Person, God the Father. God is a spiritual being without a physical body. He is personal & involved with people. He created the universe out of nothing. He is eternal, changeless, holy, loving, & perfect.
3trinity7 3 years ago
Help me understand something.If Christ and God are the same person, and If God doesn't have a body, why did he get resurrected and come back and go out of his way to show the apostles that he still had a physical, tangible body that looked just like a man? Does he dump this body when he doesnt feel like using it?
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
Christ and God aren't the same person. They are two different persons, one divine substance.
slbrail87 3 years ago
please explain then how Christ had a physical and perfected body after his death. One which he showed to the apostles...Was Gods substance inside of that body temporarily or was that substance left somewhere during his return?
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
No answer?
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
Help me understand something.If Christ and God are the same person, and If God doesn't have a body, why did he get resurrected and come back and go out of his way to show the apostles that he still had a physical, tangible body that looked just like a man? Does he dump this body when he doesnt feel like using it?
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
Well that is God for ya, He has created everything that is visible and invisible such as the wind. You can see the effect of the wind by see the leaves on a tree blowing around but you cannnot see the wind it's self. So I'll show you another parable about the Trinity. Ok, Well from what I see your a man who is replying to my notes am I right? Ok so your a father, brother, uncle, if not a father your a son am I right so far? Ok well as you see there you are one man but three different roles .
3trinity7 3 years ago
1:..What???
2: If I said "my father is greater than I am"...would I be talking about A: My alter ego/other "Role"
or B: My father.
Is it A or B?
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
They believe Jesus is a separate god from the Father (Elohim). He was created as a spirit child by the Father & Mother in Heaven, & is the "elder brother" of all men & spirit beings. His body was created through sexual union between Elohim & Mary. Also Jesus was married. His death on the cross does not provide full atonement for all sin, but provides everyone resurrection.
3trinity7 3 years ago
Matt 12:50 Jesus even says that those who do the will of the father the same is his brother, sister, and mother. The account that you anti's get of having sex with mary is from B. Youngs talk that anti's interprete incorrectly, B. Young said "the Father came himself and "favored" that spirit with a tabernacle. Anti's put in "sex" thus they lie and say it's gospel teaching in the LDS faith. Jesus being married is implied, not taught and it is not doctrine, my how the anti's lie!
dirkhunter 3 years ago
I believe Jesus is God, the 2ed Person of the Trinity. As God the Son, He has always existed & was never created. He is fully God & fully man (the two natures joined, not mix).
As the 2ed Person of the Trinity, He is coequal with God the Father & the Holy Spirit. In becoming man, He wasbegotten through the Holy Spirit & born of the virgin Mary. Jesus is the only way to the Father, salvation, & eternal life. He died on a cross according to God's plan, as full sacrifice & payment for our sins.
3trinity7 3 years ago
Also I believe He rose from the dead on the third day, spiritually & physically immortal. For the next 40 days He was seen by more than 500 eyewitnesses. His wounds were touched & He ate meals. He physically ascended to Heaven. Jesus will come again visibly & physically at the end of the world to establish God's kingdom & judge the world.
3trinity7 3 years ago
3in one belief system, believe that Jesus, though he prayed to the Father was really praying to himself! When on the cross "into thy hands I commend my spirit" but really was commending himself into his own hands. That when he said he'd stand at the right hand of God means he will be standing at his own right hand. Make sense? Doesn't have to. But wait a minute God is not the author of confusion, says so in the scriptures! 1 Cor 14:33.
dirkhunter 3 years ago
They believe the "holy spirit" is different from the "Holy Ghost." The "holy spirit" is not God, but is an influence or elecricity-like emanation from God (or "light of Christ").
3trinity7 3 years ago
I believe the Holy Spirit is God, the third Person of the Trinity. The Holy Spirit is a person, not a force or energy field. He comforts, grives, reproves, convicts, guides, teaches, & fills Christians. He is not the Father, nor is he the Son, Jesus Christ.
3trinity7 3 years ago
I am evangelical but I believe what you say in this video. God is very big and loves his children who walk in love, service and humility.
Lyndehouse 3 years ago
I am pleased to announce that shawn mcfakey's heart of the matter is now going to be a weekly series. Look for the next video on Monday. Tell your friends!
shawnmckafey 3 years ago
Hey leadmeguide me. Love the video. Im sure by now you have seen this wacko Shawn Mccraney. Just type born again mormon in the search engine and take a look at any of his 300 videos. After you have taken a gander at one of those. Type in Born Again mormon Crazy and take a look at my video. I think you will enjoy it much. :-) Keep up the good work. Enjoyed your video.
shawnmckafey 3 years ago
What happened to this video?
quailmom8120 3 years ago
Thank you for this video, you had a lot of good points. I agree with everything you said.
tcaviking38 3 years ago
it's ALL baloney.
tattypatty 3 years ago
MMM, baloney.......wait, is that the same as bologna?
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
Kinda. Forgive me, I'm Canadian
tattypatty 3 years ago
Forgive? No need, in fact, since were talking meats here I'd like to thank you for Canadian Bacon! Hawaiin style pizza wouldn't be the same without it.
LeadmeGuideme 3 years ago
You're welcome, sir.
tattypatty 3 years ago
Excellent.
waverly94 4 years ago
Dude, I love you. Thank you so much for your videos! I love that you're being so open about our beliefs and you're open to critical thinking about our faith. Isn't that what Joseph Smith did? You're amazing! God bless you!
Weezelee 4 years ago
MITT ROMNEY might win the Republican Nomination because he has the most money 250 Million US. But, you and I both know that MITT ROMNEY will never be President of the United States. WHY? Because the majority of Americans don't recognize the Mormon religion as Christian and neither do I.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
So you are saying you don't believe in the constitution?
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Not even GW Bush believes in your Constitution. Didn't he refer to it has an "piece of paper." The only politician that seems to believe in your constitution is Dr Ron Paul.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Didn't your own President George Bush say that the Constitution was just a piece of paper.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
"the majority of Americans don't recognize the Mormon religion as Christian and neither do I. "
I'm portuguese and I really don't care who is going to be the next EUA President, but I wonder if is a democratic attitude to discriminate a candidate based in his religion
cesarcris 4 years ago
I think some Americans (e.g. eyewrenchee) need to come to Europe were Democracy was born to learn the meaning of democracy.
cesarcris 4 years ago
I'm Australian.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Portuguese Democracy, your joking right? wasn't your country involved in the SLAVE TRADE once?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Slavers, yes we were like most of the world use to be and we were also one of the first countries to abolish slavery. BTW we don't judge political candidates based in his religion but in their skills. Religious prejudice isn't democratic!!!
cesarcris 4 years ago
Don't ever recall Australians going to Africa to grab slaves.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
eyewrenchee
Read my comments, I said "like most of the World" I never talked about Australia, but if I'm not wrong Australia was a British colony and the British Empire also was involved in the slave trading. And the point isn't the slave trading but your religious intolerance and mixing it with politics (just like the Muslims!!!).
cesarcris 4 years ago
So from a couple of lines on a feedback column you have suddenly deduced that I am religiously intolerant and not only that I am also as bad as an muslim who is religiously intolerant.
How dare you JUDGE ME you don't even know me.
Keep to the facts, don't play the PERSON, play the ISSUE. Don't you know how to debate?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
the above comment was for cesarcris the JUDGER.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
I'm evaluating your comment: "the majority of Americans don't recognize the Mormon religion as Christian and neither do I." This comment is intolerant because you are saying we mustn't vote in someone because of his religion.
cesarcris 4 years ago
Your comment was intolerant, obviously I'm talking about your comment not the person. Don't play the victim role because doesn't work with me. The one who don't know how to debate it's you because you are trying to change subject all the time.
cesarcris 4 years ago
Change the subject? your the one that brought slavery into the debate.
Victim the Portuguese are renowned around the world for playing the victim.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
"Change the subject? your the one that brought slavery into the debate" Lol was me? No it was you. Read the comments.
"Victim the Portuguese are renowned around the world for playing the victim." Another prejudiced comment, the Portuguese have all kind of people just like the Australians.
cesarcris 4 years ago
Portugal is not multicultural.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
"Portugal is not multicultural." rofl
Here we have an expert of my country lol You are not talking seriously. Why do you say Portugal isn't multicultural? And what's the relevance to your intolerant and prejudiced talk?
cesarsousa70 4 years ago
Ha, now I am in tolerant look whos calling the kettle black.
The two most multicultural countries in the world are Australia and Israel.
Portugal comes no where near even being considered to be multicultural.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Portugal have cultural influences from Phoenicians, Celts, Romans, Muslims, Visigods (barbarians), Africans and many more. We existed as a country since 1143 AD (way before Australia). We also spread our culture in Brasil, Africa, India. We have more than 1M of Population working outside Portugal.
cesarcris 4 years ago
Hope no of them are working here.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Africans weren't necessary they had the local aborigenes check at foma. co. nz/archive/SlaveryinAustraliato1972....htm
And what about the convict laborers in the XIX Century!!!
cesarcris 4 years ago
Well Aborigines didn't work for us, we just murdered them.
The Convicts where criminals (not all of them) serving out there sentences. So they where expected to work.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
lol Britain was the first country to outlaw slavery, not Portugal, lolol.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
I never said Portugal was the first one. Read my comments I said was "one of the first countries"
cesarcris 4 years ago
EUA President?how much power will that guy actually have? not much thats for sure.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Quit starting your own pointless pathetic holy wars, LeadMeguideMe; the Christians who's church has, according to you, "been corrupted by Satan" includes people with much more credibility than you (i.e. MLK Jr., Brian "head" Welch, George Washington, etc.) I guess MLK was being deceived by Satan for fighting for black people's rights? It sure seems that way to Mormons, considering the church basically ousted blacks from their church for quite some time.
kremytu17 4 years ago
As long as they are American? right?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
I think we as a society grossly misunderstand the love and grace of Christ!
mkm43 4 years ago
Re listen to the Video, its voting for Huckabee that is scary
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Dude, you cant say that huckabee believes that 70% of american s will go to hell. if i used the attitude you have towards Mitt, i could come up with a lot more statements verbalized against against romney that would make him look even worse and stir up a lot more doupt about romney's beliefs
vdorosh1215 4 years ago
No, I can say that because that is what Huckabees Evangelical beliefs teach, Mitt Romneys beliefs on the after life, as I state in this video do not believe those people will go to hell. So it is accurate, and therefore I can say it.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Thanks very enlightening.
1. Mormons believe in reincarnation.
2. You need to do works that will lead to salvation.
3. Mormons also believe in the Catholic doctrine of Purgatory. (Which as of 07' the Catholic Church no longer believes in)
The "Trinity" Catholic / Christian doctrine came into force to help explain the unexplainable, and to counteract an heresy.
Q. For you LeadmeGuideme What is the Sword of Laban?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
1. Mormons do not believe in reincarnation (where did you get that from?)
2. Salvation comes only through grace, but read James and you will realize that God isnt going to hand out Grace to those who dont follow his commandments.
3.not enough room to respond
and the answer is the sword of Laban is Labans sword
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Reincarnation you said it your self "Mormons believe that in a PREEXISTENCE we where LITERALLY the SPIRIT CHILDREN OF OUR FATHER.
Sent to Earth to Grow.
Some forms of Hinduism believe the same thing.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Ahh, I see the problem here, you have no idea what reincarnation is. look it up.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Hello you actually have no idea what reincarnation is you look it up.
Bible says "Once to die and thence the judgment."
No where in the bible does it say that we preexisted.
No where in the Bible does it say we preexisted and then came here has "gods" children, to work our way into heaven.
If thats the case then why Jesus?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Preexistence: Job 38:1-7; Heb. 12:9,10; Acts 17:28,29; etc.). One example is Jeremiah 1:5: Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Yes knew what he would become.
Didnt know him as in walked around in heaven and chewed the fat, so to speak.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Thats all you got?
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Historically the story is simply this: belief in the premortal existence of the soul was dropped from Christianity in A.D. 553 by an edict known as the Anathemas against Origen, promulgated by the Roman emperor Justinian. The Pope consented under extreme duress. [Philip Schaff and Henry Wace, eds., Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, Second Series, vol. XIV (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Eerdmans Publishing Co., 1956), p. 320; cf.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Yes faith without works is dead, but works will not get you saved. Jesus said "It is finished."
No more works.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
If you admit that faith without works is dead, then you admit you have to do works.
If I ask you what has to be done to be saved, and you give ANY answer, it means SOMETHNG has to be done, pure grace would mean not having to do a thing...anything beyond that is works...sorry
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
it is also somewhat of a misconseption. the example of the boy and the question of what will happen when he meets Jesus, is a great one. the truth is that God is merciful and reasonable God. he will judge each individual individually. if this boy never even had a chance to hear about Jesus, but lived an honest life with integrity, Jesus will know exactly what to do with this boy. it is absolutely wrong for an evangelical to have a strong opinion on this.
vdorosh1215 4 years ago
Then why do they have such strong opinions on this? I am not putting words in the mouths of Evangelicals, I have talked to thousands and they all say that a person must vocally accept Jesus, as Peter did, and there is no other way than that. Again, thats not my opinion, just stubborn facts.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
"By grace you are saved, AND THIS IS NOT OF WORKS, lest any man boast."
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Faith without works is dead......uh-oh, is the bible contradicting itself?
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
First grace then works, but works can not ultimately save you. They refine you, so to speak.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Its not contradicting itself its about looking at it as an whole.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
So works are needed but only after grace...Could you show me where its puts them in order in the bible please.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Again its not about order either.
The books when received where not placed "IN ORDER," in the canon.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
I know its not about order, you are the one who specifically said that works have to come after grace....so are you correcting yourself?
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Works, yes, but not 100 percent necessary.
You believe in the 19 percent tithing rule no doubt?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Not 100 percent necessary? So what percentage of works is necessary?
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
So you are not sure exactly what percent of works is necessary?
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Actually, firstly lets break / unpack this word "works" what do you think "works" are?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
You are the one claiming mormons believe in works over grace, I cant define works for you, you brought it into the conversation! You are worse than a politician. Ill make this simple, Mormons believe that Christ and only Christ can save a person, however Christ will not save people who dont follow his COMMANDments. Do you think they are the ten suggestions or the ten commandments?
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Not you didn't make it simple, what are works?
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Good question, you are the one claiming Moromons believe is works, so what are they? Mormons believe in being saved by grace, but we also believe that we must follow Gods commandments. Again, you (as I have shown twice now) are the one using the term works, so only you can define it.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
I am an believer in and follower of Jesus.
Jesus saved me, he chose me.
His grace is sufficient for me.
His Holy Spirit empowers me and helps me live for him.
I don't believe that works can save you, I don't believe that just following the 10 commandments can save you, only His blood sacrifice can save and believing on what He has accomplished through the cross, the forgiveness of sins.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
I am glad that you dont believe that just following the 10 commandments can save you. Mormons Dont believe that either, Mormons believe you need Christs grace to save you. So apparently agree.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Your the one that believes in works, not me.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
You specifically said that there was a percentage of works necessary, scroll down, YOU SAID IT...but you apparently dont know how much of a percentage..looks like you are lost!!
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
Where? did I talk on Percentages.
eyewrenchee 4 years ago
Me:Faith without works is dead.
You:First grace then works, but works can not ultimately save you. They refine you, so to speak.
Me:So works are needed but only after grace...Could you show me where its puts them in order in the bible please.
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago
You:Again its not about order either.
Me:I know its not about order, you are the one who specifically said that works have to come after grace....so are you correcting yourself?
You:Works,yes, BUT NOT 100 PERCENT NECESSARY.
Me:So what percentage of works is necessary?
LeadmeGuideme 4 years ago