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  • That's the Tories for you.

  • this is why the police over here are flat out lying about drug raids and pinning it on people it doesn't even belong to, it's cus they're not getting paid, not because they're racist......wait.

  • UK be trollin

  • LOL then the riots.

  • Makes perfect sense when you realize that retirement funds are budgeted separate from operational funds. Retirement funds are set up to remain solvent - one way is by investing the unencumbered portion. The operating budget funds cannot be invested.

    Reducing the capital operating budget is the goal and if GB is as unscrupulous as the US, excess retirement funds ( like US Social Security collections) can be shifted to the operating budget and replaced with IOU's. Ponzi schemes always fail.

  • These are people who put their lives on the line and they want them to work for free? Know what I'd do if I were one of those "retired" officers. I'd take the job but then reeeeeally drag my feet on 911 calls for rich folk. Then when I arrived I'd act reeeeeeally stupid and incompetent and repeat over and over something about ... what is it ??? .. oh yeah, you get what you pay for? or its all about pay for performance? I could go on.

  • UK is sadly under a Conservative ( Republican ) government. Thats why this shit is happening here. I fucking hate them.

  • Zero sympathy for the police. These retards already get paid too much and there are far too many of them mooching from the state on sick pay and overtime bonuses.

    What job can you walk into with zero education and earn a solid wage for 25 years and then 'retire' to a second career on an index linked pension?

    I wouldn't mind if they did their job properly but they are completely useless, just good for speeding tickets and eating doughnuts, fuck them.

  • @versanil You can't join the force without adequate grades, then there's an in-depth character analyses which has 100 times more merit and value than any worthless amount of academic education the schools fill our heads with. Most coppers do a great job.

    You can join the Armed Forces without an education. but not the Police

  • @Zero7evenX

    Yeah, the test goes like this: 'Can you read and write enough to write a speeding ticket?' That's the academic bit, then there's the character analysis 'Are you the type of person that will convict your own grandma to get ahead?'

  • @versanil Wowww! so factual, I'm impressed.

  • @Zero7evenX

    I'm not trying to impress any fuzz lovers. Nobody likes the police except other police, that's all you need to know about these people. They are spiteful people who would be working in menial jobs otherwise because they are too stupid and lazy to get a proper education and work in the private sector.

  • @versanil Well, I've arrested more times than I can remember, I've even had a copper stand on my head while I was cuffed to the seats legs in a Police Coach. but I've never hated the Police for doing their job which "some of them at times" do appallingly, Some coppers have Degree's, I worked with an Electrician who owned his own company but sold it all and joined the Police, I know of a copper who's a trained Doctor but became a copper instead.

    You don't really know what you're talking about.

  • @versanil Could you be a copper, could you do their job day in and day out?

  • @versanil Nice one. Why not become a cop and show them how it's done? Cuz cops have never saved anyone's life before, nor have they located missing kids, nor have they broken up fights or domestic disputes, nor do they ever die in the line of duty, or suffer severe stress over the years due to the things they have witnessed... Look - just like any other profession, you're gonna have leeches and scumbags - but to say they're ALL like that just makes you look ignorant and stupid.

  • @blue4arekkusu

    Well said, the man who has never had to deal with the police.

  • @versanil Well said, individual who assumes that I'm both a man and that I've never had to deal with the police.

  • I'd work for TYT for free :D

  • WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT ON 'THE BILL' TV SHOW THE ROZZERS ARE S.M.A.T. SMART SO WHY ARE THE REAL LIFE LIMEY COPS APPARENTLY SO STUPID? MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE THE WAYNE ROONEYS OF HE WORLD SO YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY THE FUCKING POLICE. HOW DO YOU LIKE MY ALLCAPS MOTHERFUCKERS?

  • how about cut immigration benefits?? England is one of the most densely populated countries in the world. stop taking in hoards of people and giving them free money.

  • @deveousdevil Minorities make up about 10% of the British population. So that theory is bullshit.

  • @MsDimplecheeks

    the whole welfare-state system is messed up. in one case there were a few families from Somalia getting 100,000 pounds a year each. assholes like Anjem Choudry who don't work, get 25,000 untaxed a year, more than soldiers. not to mention the minority-on-minority violence, like in Tower Hamlets, where gays get the privilege of being brutalized by Pakistanis and Bengals who only get into the country because they lie about going to some university that doesn't exist,

  • @deveousdevil LOL you sound like fucking racist. There are more white people on welfare than minorities and that's a fact.. It's the minorities who are doing the jobs white people won't touch. I work in the city of London as an Insurance broker. The people cleaning the offices and toilets are all immigrants. Whites don't want those jobs! they rather stay on benefits and watch Jeremy Kyle. You sound like the fucking racist idiot who gets their info off the daily mail.

  • @deveousdevil Another fact white working class are one of the least educated in the UK. Its the Indians, Chinese and Nigerians who are at the TOP of the educational ladder. Whites are in the middle of that list. White working class are not only one of the least educated in the UK their also the ones leaching off the benefit system while immigrants are doing the jobs they wont touch. You really think the government would have let half of the immigrants in the UK if these jobs were taken already.

  • @deveousdevil You ever been to Glasgow and other poor white areas in the uk were violence is rampant and junkies roam the streets looking for hits! Your a racist douche bag who loves pointing out selective information on non whites and forgets all the crimes that white people are committing on a daily basis when their coming our of the pubs drunk and high on drugs.

  • @MsDimplecheeks

    sigh, no im not racist, but i get y u called me one b/c its the best way to win an argument in Europe when s/o makes any criticism of ANY minority. what about the the little girls in these families who get sent back to Pakistan to forced marriages? or the women who cant get divorces in their community shariah "courts." or how about the gay men or atheists in these families who have to fear for their lives? the racist argument is dying out. you cant be culturally relative.

  • @deveousdevil You have an obsession with calling out supposed atrocities among minorities but where's your outrage over the millions of white people who who are on the welfare state, becoming junkies , hooligans causing riots on football grounds and in city town centres. Majority of the paedophiles on the sex offender lists are WHITE! Why are who obsessed with brown skin people?

  • @MsDimplecheeks

    you want to pretend that everyone is simply the same, go ahead, but calling it out for what it is, is not racism its realism. it has nothing to do with "white," i hate the BNP as much as you do, but you want to act like hundreds of thousands of non-integrating immigrants is ok for ANY country, you can but you're wrong and b/c other people point that out doesn't make them racist, its just the only insult you know b/c since WWII it's become code word for Nazi. weak/fake argument

  • @deveousdevil So why not call out all the whites on welfare? why did you just pick out the brown people? Huh? Your racist. You don't have to be a BNP member to be a racist. The fact is your ignoring all the lazy white natives in the UK for not the doing the jobs that the immigrants are doing. Whose gonna clean the toilets and streets if you stop all immigration, I tell you it won't be junkie 'Peter' from the Hackney counsel estate, cus he's to busy watching Jeremy Kyle.

  • @MsDimplecheeks it has nothing to do with them being "brown,". you don't see Hindus and Sikhs pulling this kind of shit because they can actually manage to keep their faith separate from the rest of their lives. they're not threatening terrorism or demanding the right to handle domestic abuse cases in their own religious courts. i live in the US im happy to call out the WHITE Russians (my community) who abuse our system but they dont start riots wen s/o writes a book critical of them eg.Rushdi

  • Turn the soundboard down !

  • Well labour will fight this in Wales now.

  • the video title could also mean the cops asked to work for free.

  • And who are the police going to take their anger out on?

  • CENK IS BAD??? YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • its a shame they spent such ludricuos money on the royal wedding. im sure that billion dollars woulda have gone a long way. BUT HOW MANY CHANCES DO YOU GET TO SEE A ROYAL WEDDING? on that note everyone who watched that can eat shit and die. yes you too mom.

  • Cut all cops and make handguns tax deductible. Problem solved.

  • @tommysch Firearms are highly illegal in the UK.

  • @Lostfaith1980 Like in you cant buy one at all or you just have to get a permit?

  • @tommysch Handguns are illegal, hunting rifles such as old style claypigeon guns are legal but you need a license and stringent background checks.

    Getting a gun in the UK is near to impossible. There was a guy who was buying guns in the US, transporting them illegally to the UK and selling them in ones or twos at a time on the street. Went on for years and he made a lot of money before he got caught and charged. But that incident just shows how hard it is to get a firearm in the UK.

  • @Lostfaith1980 whoa whoa whoa, it's actually illegal just to OWN a handgun?

  • @CelphProclaimed Yes, highly illegal. If your caught with one theres a very stiff jail sentence. The police don't even carry guns here except for special response units who are called for rare gun related crimes.

  • @Lostfaith1980 Wow talk about living in another dimension, that sounds pretty awesome to me living here in America, where I can't even get a sink put in without someone walking into my house with a handgun that could stop a charging rhino.

  • Its called austerity, its why the UK might not go bankrupt and why usa WILL go bankrupt.

  • @pierrelarouge Not a very smart thing to comment about. If the US goes under it will take the whole global market with it, and it will be because of Wallstreet, not the government spending that conservatives keep crying about.

  • @londonoverground

    as much as i agree with you about the student protests and g20 , if you cant trust and support the police then you sir are fucked up in the head as there the people protecting you from people wanting to smash your face in , that is unless you yourself have something to hide :)

    good day to you sir

  • @mattman1991woot what are you talking about? no-one wants to smash my face in. and even if someone did what are the police going to do about it? give me a crime number? wow! if i get my face smashed in i want a doctor, not some thicko in a yellow vest.

  • Voluntary work in europe is generally paid. You just don't get as much money (probably min. wage or less) and no taxes are taken from your salary

  • Walking back from the chippy which is literally a 5 minute walk back to mine I saw 3 pairs of police just patrolling and a police camera van, they all looked like volunteers and I just thought.... what the hell? I havn't seen police walk around town in like 5 years lol

  • @ANGRYMAPLE I know the feeling. I often think "Where were the police on the streets when I was attacked 5 different times?!" UK self-defence laws are fucking stupid and I live here. Your more likely to get arrested and charged than your attacker if you defend yourself in any way. Your expected to call the police. But how you meant to do that when you have 3 people beating on you? AND what the hell can the police do to prevent it AFTER its already happened?! More police on the streets please.

  • @Lostfaith1980 In the street down from mine an old man left his house to tell off a bunch of chavs throwing stones at his windows, neighbours came and helped him guess what happened? Police arrest the old man. It's sad that stories like this just pile up with no end in site

  • @ANGRYMAPLE Makes you sick doesn't it.

  • Where are Simon Pegg and Nick Frost when you need them?

  • @rainxinxblack21 yesss welll they're tangled up in alien business at the moment.

  • @rainxinxblack21 Getting richer ^_^ And good for them says I.

  • is it really THIS hard for americans to understand someone wanting to do smth for their community, not for the money, but because it is THIER communityy too??wow..and then Cenk is angry US has become such a sad cut-throat country?..no wonder, if he has this type of thinking as well..

  • a lot of special constables do the duty as part of there belief in social responsability they do the job for free like a volunteer firefighter, these officers been asked to come back have done years of service, most are not front line due to there age, they tend to work in community projects, they are been told, hey if u want u can still work on these projects by comming back and working as a spc

    now 99 percent of them will say no thanks im finished but there may be a few who do, so why not ask

  • Giuliani did that here in NYC - fired off all the experienced cops & slashed salaries.

    It was a nightmare. We ended up with a police force made up of inexperienced officers who would leave after a few years once they had some experience under their belt.

    From what I recall, the number of negative incidents involving police officers rose considerably.

    Giuliani was Republican, btw, in case you forgot that little fact.

  • Maybe if they didn't try to put 30% of the population in prison for weed they wouldn't have to make those cuts.

  • @fuunguus Your thinking of the US not the UK.

  • do more uk stuff =]

  • BIG SOCIETY ROCKS

  • What is that "Please, please, please..." clip from? it's hilarious

  • fucking right wing trash, david cameron needs a red dot on his forehead

  • I missed out on some sound bytes. What clip was that please, please, please, please from?

  • rofls, right after the royal wedding

  • I love the faces Cenk makes :)

  • when students protested the government for hikes in tuition fees the police were there to defend and protect the states interests by kettling demonstrators and hitting them with their truncheons, almost killing one kid (at the g20 demonstration they killed ian tomlinson who wasnt even protesting). now they find themselves on the receiving end of the governments austerity measures and we're supposed to give a shit? fuck the police!

  • I work in a volunteer Fire department and I still get paid for going to practices and to calls but I don't get paid for sitting at the fire hall.

  • Lesson of the story is: It doesn't matter what part of world you're in. Conservatives win and the people eat sh*t.

  • @bb1televator No, just the English-speaking world. Scandinavian countries aren't like that at all from what I've read, we've a lot to learn from them as soon as we stop following the USA's lead because we assume a higher GDP like theirs is what will necessarily produce a healthier, happier society.

  • @optifog ---

    Believe me, there are certain far-right groups here in Scandinavia that'd lvoe to destroy the welfare state, here in Sweden, our present conservative government has already booted out thousands of people too sick to work to look for any job at all.

    But form ost of it, they simply don't dare to touch the welfare state because people are aware of the risk to get a devastated society if we wander too close to the United States of America.

  • @bb1televator: Makes me wonder what sick jokes will be generated up here in Canada now that the Conservatives have a majority? ^^'...

  • @Tigranis Well, speaking from experience in the US, expect a whole 3 ring circus of horrors and illusions. Watch in desperate amazement as everything you once considered good in the world is turned on its head. You will quite literally feel like you've been transported into a polar opposite reality. The rich are sacrosanct, the poor are undeserving, fear is courage, open and constructive criticism is treason... I truly feel sorry for you...Like the expression goes: "As we are, you will be."

  • Cenk: Get the real story . Half-assed reporting from a Liberal???

  • I'd show up and do a quarter-ass job. What? They're not paying me anymore, so I have nothing to lose.

  • where did the please please please sound clip come from?? lol too good!

  • @jford2032 I think that was Anthony Wiener. Not sure from what.

  • Yes, and please hold your breath until I show up.

  • The thing i find funny is if they agreed to it but they constantly were late or barely showed up or not even show up, what are they going to do, fire them? lolz

  • oh god are you kidding me

  • I can't believe these British cops wants to work for free.

  • wow Cenk is back in the studio

  • Does anyone know which clip Cenk is playing @ 0:14?

  • @Hersi0417 They did a story on a Journalist who asked a Republican a question he didn't want at a town hall... I believe it is the rep or the cop that arrested her.

  • thats a slap in the face

  • To bad the Police cant turn to the people :-(

  • reguardless of your job you need to get paid for your time. life isnt free

  • @tehant1liberal u are a dumbass if a obama is a sociliast then he is the WORST fucking socliast i ever seen!!!

  • @tehant1liberal Have you actually watched any video regarding Cenk's opinion on how Obama is handling the economy? Just shut up and get you facts straight, idiot.

  • the only thing nice about uk is there girls.

  • Where's all this UK hate in the comments coming from?

    Fuck the intricacies, governments come and go. But Britain will remain one of the most beautiful countries in the world.

  • It'd be nice if they started doing this for CEOs and politicians. Tell them, "oh yeah, no, you're fired, but go ahead, come back and do this voluntarily".

  • i'm afraid of what thw world will look like when im a bit older

  • These are the same cuntservatives that are reducing the corporate tax rate while cutting a ton of money from crucial public sector services.

    Fuck David Cameron.

  • Damn you Brits are beginning to look like the United States of Europe.

    Don't bring this bullshit into the EU, it's enough with all the far-right neonazis, we don't need yet another buttload of Americanization.

    So your conservative pm drags up costs for education, cuts everything else, including police officer's salary and give you what in return...?

  • The Conservatives have been in power here in the UK just over a year now. They're ruthless and disgusting. They did the same thing in the 80's under Thatcher and now they're back to finish the job. WHY DIDN'T PEOPLE LEARN? You vote for the tories, you get absolute bastards in government. grr.

  • @JoelCornah Yeah, labour were great... I don't think they're 'ruthless disgusting bastards'. Not really. I don't like them much, but its incorrect to say that they're the same as Thatcher. Cameron is very different. Not better. But different. Keep an eye open.

  • @Slapbass13 I was never a massive fan of Labour. I'm a Green, to be honest. But the Tories are just... horrible.

    I suspect that if he had the chance, Cameron would steal milk from children if he could.

  • @JoelCornah Greens good. The more people who vote for the Greens, the more the government will realise that the electorate actually give a shit about the environment. You can bet Cameron doesn't give a shit for global warming.

  • The UK is the "big brother" nation, it's basically a prison because they have given up most of their rights, they don't need so many cops. It is comical that the royal wedding just happened fro what, 40 million or so and just a week later government workers are losing their jobs. What a country. Makes the US look good for about 2 seconds.

  • England can save money if they stop spending on the royal family. What do they need a royal family for? they have a prime minister so no need for royalty.

  • UK needs to get back to talking about no need for the royal family instead of being blinded by a wedding.

  • @n8tivguitar in the uk nobody really cares for the royal family. they are just a part of english tradition. people are happy for them thats about it.

  • How many cops do you need? Mayberry got by with 2!!

  • why not cops loved being facist and pissing ppl of...retired cops would pay to have their old jobs back

  • What was that audio bit from?

  • I'll bet you all the cops won't go to work at all. That way no cop will be laid off and they'll have to take away this cut so that no one losing their job. Seriously, these budget cuts are nothing more than lame bullsh*t of an excuse.

  • Why don't we sack the politicians and then ask them to work for free.

  • This is how criminal enterprise and racketeering are able to expand safely.

  • Can't believe the standard of some reporting...

    It was one of the retiring officers who suggested the idea: wwwbbc[dot]couk/news/uk-englan­d-birmingham-13282047

    Also, the royal wedding was not paid for by the UK government /fp

  • TheHerpaderpderp is a troll.

  • Anna classy answer. No! I 100% agree with you. :D:D:D

  • if i were those cops, i's tell the UK to go fuck itself, and join the protesters, taking my weapons with me.

  • @KangaKucha your not allowed guns etc in the UK so your being retarded.

  • @92Disturbed not yet anyway

  • People shit-talk the po-po all over the world, all the time... Especially on this YouTube channel. And I've never had any particularly pleasant exchanges with the cops myself. But they're SO important. As long as they're not abusing their authority, which is wont to happen now and then, the police do so much in their mere existence that they aren't given credit for.

    Now that the poor only steal from the poor, the rich think they don't need them.

    Just think about who you rob is all.

  • David Cameron is the worst PM since Thatcher.

  • Din't the UK do huge college spending cuts earlier this year? And now these huge police spending cuts? Does the UK have big budget problems all of a sudden or what? These cuts seem to be coming out of nowhere.

  • @Rogue2rocks Yeah, there are huge needs for cuts in the UK. There's a recession, people!

  • @Rogue2rocks Their economy is failing, as is many European countries and American states.

  • @Rogue2rocks The UK needs to cut its deficit just like the US does... Just the UK government is actually trying to cut the deficit, not like the US, where its tax breaks all round.

    Side note, public sector workers in the UK get pretty good pay, excellent pensions and can pretty much write their own overtime hours as and when they like. Its a pretty sick system that even the police have been taking advantage of.

  • Basically the UK is fucked, our government is just a farce!

  • All things are well in our humble Tory dystopia...

  • Cop working for free....THIS IS THE STUPIDEST IDEA EVER...and breeds a DANGEROUS PRECEDENT....its called CORRUPTION....

    If the UK would like to aspire to become like a good corrupt third world country like Nigeria, Indonesia or Russia...do this.

    Comes have to be well paid since they face a lot of dangerous situations.

  • Next thing you know, Britain's going to install a parallel legal system for specific religious groups.

  • How many of those cops will take to stealing? Too many of them already steal guns and drugs to add to their personal collections- I've seen it with my own eyes. If they aren't being paid AT ALL, a lot more of them will turn to just taking what they want.

  • wanna be flabergasted?

    /watch?v=Bj4yn1RBxHs&feature=c­­hannel_video_title

  • It's bad enough when a cop in a movie gets killed a week before retirement, could you imagine being shot after you retired.

    I have a solution to the police problem though, develop Robocops, that way they can still do their job after they die.

  • That's our cowardly, filthy, incompetent 'coalition' (conservative) government for you.

  • @RedGaribaldi By American standards they arent' 'conservative' at all. Filthy... seriously..?

  • Maybe the cops will realize what's happening and join the protests.

  • The fucking British government won't go after the banks and big companies because they're scared that business would leave the country if they did, fucking pussies.

  • Few facts wrong. The standard career arc for a UK cop is 30 yrs, after that they can retire you. It's also the point when their pension reaches full benefit, UK police pensions are still final salary & quite generous. One of my friends is a DS in the Met & earns up to £54K a year with O/T. The force in question asked the officers if they want to return as 'Specials'. Specials don't do full police work, they just help out with lesser duties. That said I don't blame them for not taking the offer!

  • Come on police you have to understand the state can not pay you, after all you do not need to put food on the table for your family, the queen needs a new parade and I am sure Katie could do with a bit more jewelry.

  • you want me to work for free? without getting a blowjob first? hey you better do anal if your going to ask me to work for free.

  • ah yes the royal family, all police must protect them at all cost. But pay them, fuck that. Good job for a marriage that lasted for 1 day. Police have to work for multiple years. I don't mind if they have a expensive royal wedding, but maybe a recession isn't the best time.

  • Britain - why all these fucking cuts? Just remove the leech that is draining you! Cut off the MONARCHY! Pulling a Marie Antoinette would not necessarily classy but desperate times call for desperate measures

  • @nietzscheprime

    Unfortunately the monarchy apparently MAKES money for the state

  • You know what, instead of tripling tuition for students over there, and firing police officers who protect the general populace, why don't the British just oh I don't know, raise taxes!

  • @BattleProf53 We already pay an effective 60%+ income tax when all the stealth taxes and retaxing is taken into account. The answer might be abolishing the private central banks that create our currency out of thin air and charge us interest on that same money. Good business if you can get it I guess eh!

  • I recommend checking out a youtube channel called FeverIAm, which features an Englishman called Mike Radman. Some of his most recent uploads deal with the british police and how they unlawfully arrested activists like Charlie Veitch, who were planning to peacefully protest the royal wedding. First the cops are ordered to make unlawful arrests, and now they're expected to do it for free?

  • Why is Jesus so little on the show lately? I miss "What would Jesus do".

  • Talk about insult to injury

  • this is not a joke or spam!!!!!!!!

    /watch?v=Bj4yn1RBxHs&feature=c­hannel_video_title

  • /watch?v=Bj4yn1RBxHs&feature=c­hannel_video_title

    this video is amazing. if ppl watch this it will go viral.

  • I warned everyone I know that this sort of nonsense would happen if you vote conservatives , they told me to shut up and stop being paranoid......... Well look whos laughing now :D

  • Is there anyway to flag a video as "Awesome"!

  • Yeah Cut back on police that will surely lower poverty. Yet Cameron still does that awful Tory Idea of selling state owned housing at below market costs to scummy people.

  • The police force can fight this to where NOBODY loses their jobs. Do EXACTLY what Cenks said just on a massive scale where all the cops don't show up for work one or two days and see how the government likes that. They will be forced to abandon their plans of laying off the cops. Cenk made a joke but in reality that might actually save jobs.

  • @ERAUPRCWA Our Police Forces are Public Servants, which means that if they strike, they get fired immediately.

  • @Boyninja616 they can't fire the entire police force without re-precautions. A country without a police force... hmm, yeah I don't think they would fire everyone, maybe they would look at the situation and do something else. The people should never stand idly by while their rights, jobs, and freedom are being taken away and follow the status quo just because it's "what were supposed to do". Screw that! that's why this country is so screwed up now, b/c we elect people who care about themselves.

  • @ERAUPRCWA You are not allowed to strike if you are a police officer.

  • @joefish41 screw that, if I'm about to lose my job and not get paid. But it must be just like the military... (i'm in the military) when that whole not paying the military thing came up a few weeks ago, we all mentioned the same thing, just not working.

  • @ERAUPRCWA in simple terms, that's just called a strike;

  • @ERAUPRCWA That's called a strike. It's illegal for police to strike in the UK

  • @leyubar time for a rule change...

  • @ERAUPRCWA

    That whould work exept in most western countrys, all ecential jops like police and doctors are not allowed to go on strike, they whould get huges fines!

  • @Birkirsig those huge fines would be useless if as a whole the entire force decided to stand up for their rights and jobs. It's amazing that people want to follow the establishment when the establishment rapes us day in and day out. If people educated themselves of what's going on, maybe we wouldn't have to do such drastic things. My govt is telling me to take a tax increase, pay more tuition and no medicare... and I'm supposed to stand by and do nothing?

  • @ERAUPRCWA Oh yeah...great idea... except thats COMPLETELY ILLEGAL.

    They are a public service paid for by the tax payer.

    The tax payer has voted for a government which will cut their jobs.

    Therefore the police have to suck a lemon, and obey the taxpayers by whom they are funded.

  • @Slapbass13 legal smegal, how many things in society are completely illegal but they are still propagated by the government. I'm sure the tax payers don't want the police force cut just like we don't want our fire departments or military cut. BTW I'm in the military and you could only imagine what would've happened if we didn't get paid about a month ago. I can't speak for everybody but I know a lot of people at my duty station would've refused to work, including the higher ranking officers.

  • @ERAUPRCWA The majority of people voted for a party that wanted and still wants to cut police funding and jobs.

    I don't like it either, but if the taxpayers didn't want it they wouldn't have voted for it.

    The public service are a PUBLIC service and should be dependent on the whim of the taxpayer, even if they don't like it.

    The military can get screwed quite frankly. We need out of Afghan, and we shouldn't be bombing Libya.

  • @Slapbass13 but they didn't get a majority? They got roughly 37% iirc. The conservatives however seem to believe they have a divine mandate to screw over the poor

  • @64chris64 They got the most votes and the most seats. Under the first past the post system that entitles them to form a minority government or attempt a coalition parliament.

    The conservatives have been voted in legally and legitimately- the electorate has given them the right.

    Its easy to dismiss conservatives as evil and selfish and 'wanting to screw over the poor', but thats not the way it is. They are doing what they believe is fair and just, it just so happens you think they're wrong.

  • @Slapbass13 Wrong. They are evil and selfish, and they do want to screw over the powerless. They don't believe that what they are doing is fair and just because they don't have any notion whatsoever of fairness or justice.