Best tankmates: My Clown loaches and Tiger barbs / Prachtschmerlen und Sumatrabarben [1/1]

[2BleZ]

Man... im fan of Sumatran barbs... i have seen a lot of them... i have an acuarium just for em... im reproducing em... i feed them with alive food... and i have NEVER... NEVER seen sumatrans barbs in that condition... what a beautifull colors... how did u do that...

[xenux123]

Soo cute! :3 Tiger Barbs acts like they were Clown Loaches xD

[guthix6666]

check out my noob tank please :)

[FreeBassResources]

nice red tail shark

[sgrundberg62]

It looks so squishy.

[friendlee]

your tigers have great colors n perfect bold stripes... very difficult to find such quality tigers nowadays

[SLIPtheDON]

nice taste in fish i have a red tail shark and a yoyo loach i wanna get some tiger barbs and i wish i could get a clown loach but my tank to small

[chachaman50]

haha your clown loaches are so fat and cute! <3

[cucaratsa76]

can i ask you something u guys? my two cloan loach fishes from the day i put it in the aquarium they are hidden on a cave and they dont come out even the time i feed them.... :( do you know why ?

[neosuki]

I've never cared for Tiger Barbs, but this looks awesome.



[MyFishCare101]

How many tiger barbs would you recommend for a 20G planted tank? I think tiger barbs look so cool :D Your loaches are so healthy looking!

[DiceWarfare]

hey question i have a 10 and 20 gallon and i moving soon but 3 states away and im getting a 75 gallon what fish do you think i should get? im not keeping the ones i have now.

[AquaTetra13]

Also da muss ich sagen, mir gefällt diese Kombination von zwei gleich aussehenden Fischarten nicht, dann doch lieber Moosgrüne Sumatrabarben und Prachtschmerlen :) LG

[MrZachman7]

I want my new tank to look a lot like this one. This gives me good ideas.

[prowrestlingcarny]

i want a tiger barb tank how many will i be able to fit in a 55 gallon

[TF23DayRespawn]

why not add a tiger while your at it

[UniteForgetLeftRight]

thats an interesting way to go, i prefer color diversity, but i do like the scheme of everything having red fins and most of the fish have the same pattern to boot

[FishFrenzy22]

How big is the tank?

[Biogirl52]

Great tank... that is the look I'm going for. I love tiger barbs - so fiesty and so much personality. Whenever I'd stick my hand in the tank to clean I'd get lots of "kisses" (ha).

[akatski5]

how big are your tiger barbs?

[imrwonder2]

How did you get your tiger barbs to have such bright colored bodies?

[SPART4N1171]

Hey, I have 2 oscar fish that are both 3-4 inches. Do you think that I can add tiger barbs? I have a 40 gallon by the way.

[celticchrys]

@SPART4N1171 @SPART4N1171 No. Your two oscars are already going to be enough for that tank. You will be maxed out when they reach adult size, and have to work hard to keep it clean enough for them. They will be 10-12 inches long each, and that tank will be crowded with just those two. You should check out the oscarfishlover website(just google it).

[TheKingfisher22]

I have a shoal of 9 clown loach in my 5ft tank some are getting quite szeable now

I like the combination of stripes in your tank they compliment each other very well and harmonize superbly Well done

[iMonsterChoi]

beautiful clown loaches :)

[SensiRootsBoy]

cloan loaches and many other fish grow in size according to how big your tank is, i've seen clown loaches 3 times the size of this guys

[celticchrys]

@SensiRootsBoy This is not good advice, because the only way a fish stops growing when it's in a tank that is not big enough for it, is that it gets stunted and dies prematurely. We can all make mistakes in this hobby, it's so complex, and even some store people spread mis-information like this. This particular thing, I can tell you after about 30 years of fish-keeping, and very extensive reading, is not true.

[SensiRootsBoy]

@celticchrys this is not information based on what i got at a pet-store i to have 30+ years of experience, owned just about every size tank and every species of fresh water fish. I've seen with my own eyes oscars, clown loaches, plecos, sharks, catfishs, etc get huge with a 55+ gal but in anything smaller they don't get big, and no they don't die prematurely because of stunted growth. i've had a oscar for 8 years in a 20 gal that never reached over 7 inches.

[SensiRootsBoy]

@celticchrys my advice to you is, speak from experience and not based on what you read in a book. You ever heard the phrase you are a product of your environment, it couldn't be any more true. get more hands on research before you try to knock some ones information next time.

[celticchrys]

@SensiRootsBoy I did speak from experience. Perhaps you failed to read my comment. I feel that speaking out against needless animal cruelty in a mild way is the least I can do. I have seen many fish die prematurely because people follow such bad advice. Just because your fished lived X number of years in a too-small tank does not mean they wouldn't have lived much longer in a properly sized one. Eventually there will be too much waste(poison) in the water, and this will adversely affect health.

[SensiRootsBoy]

@celticchrys Actually you said '' the only way a fish stops growing when it's in a tank that is not big enough for it, is that it gets stunted and dies prematurely '' Dunno where you got this information from but it's wrong. Can you explain why my oscar was only 7 inchs but lived 8 years then ?? Your information is obviously off, and you don't need to tell me how waste works in a aquarium, i didn't just get into the hobby of fish yesterday.

[AViolentCobra]

thats a good combo, maybe i should invest in some for my tank? :)

[11Lex87]

Beautful tank and fish! You should get some coolie loaches and blue gouramis too, itd be a real nice asian tank

[MrAlligator781]

how do you know what fish can g with other fish because you have a ton of fish in this tank

[dbbent]

it has ick

[dick110590]

hey can u help me with my tank? my tanks is crystal clear like yours and no water problems then suddenly next morning i just saw 1 of my tiger barbs dead... whats wrong?

[rkon1000]

how big do clown loches get?

[celticchrys]

@rkon1000 Clown loaches get about a foot long(12-14 inches), but it takes a very long time. They grow very fast until they're about 3-4 inches long, and then grow very slowly. They also live a very long time if well cared for. I have a clown that I've had now for about 13 years, and he is about 7 inches long. Take all of this into account before you buy them. Plan for long-term, you will probably need to get a bigger tank over the years, etc., if you want to do the thing right. :)

[Preditor01]

Can some one name off some good fish that can go with my two angelfish.

[NYYROCK]

@Preditor01 join fishforums... best website in the world for stocking and general questions. I joined and i let them stock my whole tank

[TheAquariumKeeper]

I'm surprised clown loaches and tiger barbs aren't related, they look exactly alike other than shape, they are both native to Indonesia too.

[SamnanmanCP]

@n03lzz can i put tiger barbs with african cichlids?

[TheAquariumKeeper]

@SamnanmanCP No, you shouldn't put anything with african cichlids but themselves.

[Cag12246]

@SamnanmanCP Yes,I have it in my tank and they're just fine.

[Scott89878]

@SamnanmanCP I have put barbs with Malawi Mbuna before and my experience is that they ignore both tiger barbs and black ruby barbs entirely.

[Johnnyblazinbud420]

nice clowns!! im restarting my clown tank sooon and have 3, 6 inchers reserved :)

do you know if you can use plant additives with them because i want a healthy planted tank.??

[celticchrys]

@Johnnyblazinbud420 I know it's been a while since you posted, but regarding plant additives and clowns, I generally use Seachem brand products, and I use the lowest recommended dose for many products, if a range is recommended. For regular Seachem Flourish, I use the recommended amount, and for Excel, I use half the initial dose, and then for daily mantenance, I use 1 cap every couple of days. The real things to be careful about is medicine and salt. Dose most medicines at half-strengh.

[Breniznit]

Your clown loaches are so much better behaved then mine.2 of my clowns spend all day fighting each other by grinding their spurs.Such naughty fish lol

[DaSquidsquad]

AWWWW there so much cuter chubby

[thatmofokeithbrown]

Fat, Happy, Colorful Fish. Love it!

[superfishman123]

when the tiger barbs first came in the picture i mistaked it for a clown loach lol

[ashbuzzman100]

i love barbs but every time i have them they kill mt other fish

[2smart4uandu]

How long did it take them to grow that big?

[GearsofMaverick]

damn fatass americans...

[JBK6650]

@GearsofMaverick im sure warever you live not everyone is slim and slendor so shut the fuck up and stop being jelous of us. ( im skinny)

[YourCashMoney]

I think you should make a video where the camera is zoomed out and we get to see the entire tank. I would like to see your setup because It looks quite nice from these angles.

[TheKingfisher22]

nice contrasting stripes

[Tarix13]

they're just like cousin :)

[TheWolfsting]

Your Clown Loach look perfect, really healthy

[MyAquariumWorld]

Nice :) I think tiger barbs and clown loaches go hand in hand. I havent had any success with them however :( Im hoping to maybe try them once again.

[stephen4715]

you're fish look great I just got 5 tiger barbs about a week ago still small cant wait till they get fat like yours!

[BrockTheOriginal]

I just got a baby clown loach and I was wondering if they HAVE to be in groups to live and what not. If someone could shoot me a quick email about it that would be great. Brocki645@yahoo.com

[n03lzz]

@BrockTheOriginal

The need big tanks a have to be in groups. Otherwise they become anxious psychotic fish. For futher information check out "loaches com".

[connorutsa]

Those fish need to go on a diet :)

[n03lzz]

@connorutsa

I think most other fish need a better food.^^

That's how happy fish should look like!

[enable1337]

@n03lzz obese?

[n03lzz]

@enable1337

Obese? No! This is just how a clown loach should look like. Most clown loaches in stores or in many video here on youtube are undernourished!

[enable1337]

@n03lzz well i dont wanted to say obese, everyone keep his fishes as his way. But i prefer to keep dem not overfeed.. the yours are simply; noutrished at full

[drkingslend]

@n03lzz Beautiful fish!

[jvucket]

@n03lzz i totally agree with you n03lzz my uncle has a school of 22 tiger barbs and 15 clown loaches in a 300gallon tank and they totally look like yours bro!! and trust me they are healthy...

[celticchrys]

@jvucket OMG, you have given me total aquarium envy with your comment. That must be one awesome setup to sit and watch!

[brandonkr]

@n03lzz careful though. i was feeding my fish twice a day and the nitrates rised so high it killed 2 of my fish. i only feed them once every other day. so make sure you keep an eye on the nitrate and nitrite levels.

[jwalk3138]

nice tiger barbs! they have great color. especially your clown loach. nice tank

[n03lzz]

@jwalk3138

Thank you very very much. I'm proud of them =)

[Tee2theBag]

@n03lzz Beautiful Fish!!!! I have 3 tiger barbs, and all of them are full grown im thinking about gettin some clown loaches, and this vid just finallized my decision. and as far as the obese thing... those people dont know what they are talkin about!!!!, clown loaches are bottom feeders, and all bottom feeders are thick looking!!!

[Anubisscott]

I mix them in my tanks too. Great fish, but I have Green tigers and Albino/Gold's aswell

[n03lzz]

@Anubisscott

The green tigers are a very nice cultivated form, but it decided to stay "natural" in this tank.^^

[mattybirkenhead1]

i would just like to inform every1 that is not his tank thats a tank from a zoo..........

[n03lzz]

@mattybirkenhead1

NOOOOO... This is indeed one of my tanks !!!

I've videos out of my seven tanks and two ponds, as well as videos out of zoos and fairs. I marked every video which is not my own tank with the "@zoo" or "@fair" tag in the title as well as some information in the video box.

[Krvaak]

@n03lzz hey man i have 5 tiger barbs as a test to show i have enough resposibility for a lizard and love these 5 guys they are awesome, i want more fish to join them in my 10 gallon tank, what other fish are good with tigers besides the loaches?

[n03lzz]

@Krvaak

10 gallon is a very small tank. You might get aggression-problems with your tigerbarbs and other free-swimming fish. Look for loaches that are staying small. Clown loaches would grow way to big.

[An3ggPlant1]

@mattybirkenhead1 You were really too lazy to spell 'one'

[iksouthway]

Those tiger barbs seem very peacefull mine swim around like a crowed of mad men

[n03lzz]

@iksouthway

Maybe because mine are "seniors"... lol^^

[rodmagcar]

They really do well together.

Your clowns looks stunnings. Congrats!

[n03lzz]

@rodmagcar

Thank you very much!

[gazza3112]

never realised how similar they look!

[n03lzz]

@gazza3112

Yeah that's so cool.^^

[SlightlyInsane94]

Wow, they look so similar. O:

[n03lzz]

@SlightlyInsane94

Yes... so awesome. The question is... WHY !?!

[SlightlyInsane94]

@n03lzz Ummm... Idk? Haha.

[n03lzz]

@SlightlyInsane94

=D Maybe just a little joke of nature ;)

[1959Ralf]

sehr schöne Tiere. Danke für diese schönen Bilder..

[n03lzz]

Vielen Dank.

[FishTankFanatic]

Well i was thinking getting like a 6 inch clown loach after i get a 125 tank or somthing larger

[n03lzz]

The tank size is ok. But in no case get only one. They need to live in a group. Maybe check out "loaches com" for further informations.

[OCtrackiepac]

Been taking 2 months of German...

schone fish! Ich will clown loach aber mi tank nich groB

[n03lzz]

Not bad for 2 months... I can understand you! =)

Vielen Dank.

[FishTankFanatic]

Well, alot of hiding places, i have updated my tanks since last shown on youtube. I have alot of hiding places. Im currently boiling some kind of root so it wont put things in my water and no dirt/sand.

[n03lzz]

Personally, i wouldn't try that. But i've no experience in such a combination. Clown loaches aren't agressive in any way. I'm not sure if they can withstand such cichlids.

[blownable]

but still, those eyeball switchblade can convince even the most gangstah cichild to haul its behind out of their personal space.

[n03lzz]

But i think they use it only for hierarchic encounters against their own species.

[blownable]

And also to stab the fingers of the pet store owners who net them. Its a very important part of their life.

[n03lzz]

It's a very important thing to know! If you use your net uncarefully, you can hurt every loach with those eye-thorns very bad.

[blownable]

But not all loach species have these eye blades, only botias. One example of a bladeless loach is the kuhli loach.

[n03lzz]

To my knowledge thats wrong. In german the kuhli loach is called "Dornauge" wich means (translatet word by word) "Thorneye". To my knowledge they also got the eye blades.

[blownable]

On a closely related subject also on loach/es are you familiar with the panda garra

[blownable]

Yeah you were right. But it wasn't my fault I didn't know, I blame cupholders.

[FishTankFanatic]

Hey man , my cousin has some clown loaches with his texas cichlids.. would it be okay if they were in a more aggressive tank like red devils or jackdempseys?

[n03lzz]

Sorry, i cannot answer this question. That depends on the size of the tank, the water quality and water parameters and also on the decoration like the hiding places (and bogwood in it) or the ground (sand).

[maxilicious1990]

oho,heißen die jetzt etwa chromobotia?

mein fehler,sry

[n03lzz]

Ich persönlich finde diese Synonymfragen eh meist übertrieben. Letzendlich nutze ich meist Fishbase oder Seiten wie AquaNet bzw. hier Bücher von Gerhard Ott als Quelle. Der Name "Chromobotia macracanthus" steht demnach immerhin seit Bleeker, 1852.^^

[maxilicious1990]

meine meinung,was manche fischarten án namenswchseln durchmachen ist echt nicht mehr lustig.aber wohl leider unumgänglich.naja,dass ich den kanal abonniert hab lohnt sich ja richtig^^

ach,noch ne frage:wie sihts bei dir mit wasserwerten aus?und zeigen sich die chromobotia krankheitsanfällig?(vor allem bzgl weißpünktchenkrankheit?)

[n03lzz]

Gesamthärte 12,0°dh

pH-Wert 7,80

Nitrat 20 mg/l...

Das sind auch so ziemlich exakt die Werte meines Leitungswassers.

Ich suche Fische sehr gezielt nach Qualität aus und nehme nur Tiere die in keinster Weise geschächt aussehen. Daher hab ich auch schon seit Jahren keine Krankheitsfälle nach dem Einkauf... auch nicht bei den Prachtschmerlen. Meiner Meinung nach, bei richtigen Handling, nicht krankheitsanfällig.

[maxilicious1990]

wunderbares viseo,tolle fische,schönes aquarium..aber werden prachtschmerlen nicht zu groß für ein 420 lietr aquarium?ich hab schon botia macracanthus mit mehr als 20 cm Größe gesehen.ansonsten bewundere ich deine aquariengestaltung

mfG

[n03lzz]

Ich vertrete die Ansicht, dass das Becken bei schwimmfreudigen Fischen schon etwa 9-10 mal länger als der Fisch sein sollte. Ebenfalls denke ich das selbst junge 4cm Prachtschmerlen niemals in ein 54 Liter Becken gesetzt werden sollte. Mein 420 Liter Becken stellt in meinen Augen bezüglich der Schmerlen klar einen Grenzfall dar. Noch sind die langsam wachsenden Tiere mit knapp 10cm jedoch noch lange nicht zu groß. Und aquarientechnisch aufgerüstet wird auf jedenfall.

[maxilicious1990]

deinen letzten satz kenn ich..das denk ich mir nämlich auch immer,wenn ich die ganzen nachzuchten aus meinen jetzigen aquarien sehe.meine frage war ja auch kein angriff gegen dich,ich hatte nichts anderes erwartet.ich habe nur gefragt,weil ich hier ein 500 liter becken leerstehen habe,welches ich gern in ein asien becken verwandeln möchte,am liebsten auch mit schmerlen,nur über die art bin ich noch unschlüssig.dazu ein trupp keilfleckbarben wär warsch. auch schön.merci für die antwort,

[n03lzz]

Als Angriff habe ich deine Frage auch auf keinen Fall missverstanden, keine Sorge.

Ich denke mal gegen ein, mit einer netten Bodenströmung ausgestatten, 500l Becken ist für die diese Schmerlen nichts einzuwenden. Zumindest nicht für Jungtiere über die nächsten 5-6 Jahre (wenn dann für eine artgerechte Umsetzung der Tiere garantiert wird).

[maxilicious1990]

hmm,eswird wohl doch eher ein trupp botia sidthimunki werden,da die chancen auf vergrößerung in 5 jahren(während meinem wilden studentenleben) wohl eher bescheiden sein werden.naja,auch schöne tiere

[n03lzz]

Wirklich tolle Tiere. Da hab ich auch ein Video anzubieten: "Dwarf loach, Paradise fish / Makropode, Schachbrettschmerle @ a Zoo Aquarium [1/1]" oder /watch?v=GFn_0gE70zw

[wannermike2]

Wieder ein klasse Video von schönen Fischen .

[n03lzz]

Und wiedereinmal geht ein Dankeschön an einen treuen Zuschauer! :)

[animalmastermtd]

AWESOME VIDEO!!!!! I heard the like to school together. Is this true?

[n03lzz]

Hi, they don't school like a school of herrings or somethnig, but they definitively orientate on each other. Looks very very cool. A untrained eye cannot even distinguish the species.^^

[animalmastermtd]

thats what i thought. Thanks!

[majesticmec]

Great Tank :)

[n03lzz]

Thank you very much.

[GoodGuy4life199]

That's a very nice color combination.

[n03lzz]

Yeah, that's true. Thanks for your comment.