LOL at the kid who asks him to turn around..........Rener almost seemed to be thinking......"Oh God kid we're shooting a video, it's not all about you"
What did W.C. Fields say about being upstaged by children?
@theflyingpharaohmido The reason they call it Gracie JJ is not because of the techniques but more because of their teaching method. All of this is essentially Kodokan Judo with a few added sweeps and guards (De La Riva sweep/guard, Rubber Guard, etc). They teach the techniques of Judo/BJJ but their method of teaching is GJJ. Royce clearly explains the difference in this video:
@theflyingpharaohmido actually there is a difference. they are not calling it gracie jiujitsu because the gracies pioneered it. they call it gracie jiujitsu because of the way they as gracies teach it, and the fundamentals, compared to the way other jiu jitsu schools teach it. for example, the requirements for bluebelt are focused on solely self defence to defend against a bigger, stronger attacker in the street as apposed to sport jiu jitsu schools that may focus more on competition style "bjj"
@beatjugglez ok i agree but u have no idea how many guys do i run into who believe that helio gracie is the founder of bjj and the online tests thing?!!!!! they give belts online!!!!!!! i send them a video and they give me the belt now thats not jiu jitsu thats BUISNESS again the only raeson im sayin this is because they are good teachers and i want them to be better! one more thing that pisses me off DONT HATE! they keep dissing eddie bravo thats not sportsmanship!
@theflyingpharaohmido please correct me if im wrong, because my understanding is that helio is the founder, perhaps im being closed minded to believe that? i agree with the online belt testing being business, and its definitely not the best way to progress, but you do have to show a thorough understanding of the required techniques to pass. and as far as dissing eddie bravo, this is the first ive heard of that..
@beatjugglez ofcourse he is not the founder thats what i was saying the guy is a LEGEND no doubt about it but he is not the founder he learnt jiu jitsu in brazil like many others and then came to america he made it popular in america but it comes from brazil i mean he received his black belt from his master how could he be the founder?! he was a student still MUCH RESPECT now if u go to brazil they dont like the gracis that much because the keep saying that they are the founders.
@SkemeKOS dude please just dont talk about stuf you dont know ask any guy from brazil and he would tell you the gracies learnt the game from the japaneses and said we founded this WTF
history is history you cant change history helio didnt found shit he did innovate some techniques and he is agreat jiu jitsu practiocioner dont get me wrong but if it were like that then eddie bravo founded jiu jitsu also did ryan hall
@SkemeKOS whatever man there is no point of arguing with you really helio is a great master but he didnt invent the techniques he was just a student 95% of todays bjj came from judo
@SkemeKOS we dont know thats why you shouldnt say that a particaular person is the founder
dude dont get me wrong the gracies are legends they introduced jiu jitsu to the world but helio didnt found jiu jitsu he was a student who earned his black belt from his master how could he be the founder
this game evolved through out hundreds of years and is still evolving seriously the japaneses are the ones to thank for this great art who names a martial art after his family name anyway?!!!!!!!!!!!!
@theflyingpharaohmido Helio was taught Japanese Jiu Jitsu as a reward for helping his friend..His friend didn't have money so instead he said that he'll teach him and his sons Jiu Jitsu...Royce was the one that wasn't allowed to really train with the brothers as much and in result of years of see techniques he would change them and on one day the brothers said to their clients we can't teach today so Royce said can i and they laughed and said OK after the client had said he wanted Royce teach it
@JordyBT wrong,helio never even met maeda,he was too young,carlos learned judo ,not juijitsu from maeda and later taught all the other brothers.You are also confusing helio with his own son royce
the fact is that this art branched off from judo when helio started adapting techniques, just as judo branched off when kano continued jujutsu. kano's judo doesnt emphasize the ground techniques as much as bjj does. bjj became its own thing even with its roots in judo. and the gracie family simply founded this particular offshoot of japanese jujutsu.
@scarred10 youre crazy. where do you think judo came from? kano adapted it from traditional jujutsu. at the time maeda went over to brazil, some people were still calling judo "kano jujutsu"
@Tarius729 thats right ,he adapted it,he started to use sparring as the main training method so discarded the crap that didnt work,thats why judo works and japjitsu doesnt so well for most people.They were calling it jujitsu but it wasnt,jujitsu had virtually no sparring,little to no groundwork(due to battlefield needs),it was trained via 2 man compliant forms like it still is in japan.
What would you do if he DOES straightens his arm in the middle of the kimura? I was on the mount one time and my opponent had arms of steel. I tried to apply a kimura and he straightened his arm enough to avoid it but not enough for me to armbar it. How do you force him to bend his elbow or what transition do you recommend?
@cubaninc I've found that if you'll just hold that position until you can get your leg over the back, you can loop your leg over his arm briefly to break it back down into a good control angle. If it's someone that's just inhumanly fucking strong, just keep fighting for inches and crawling your legs up his back. He'll tap or you'll take his arm home.
@ luizinho81 in the 80s before the ufc era they did also i do mma let me tell you someone on top of u hitting you and you dont know any ground fighting /techniques your just going to get your face smashed in also there are good gracie fighters in mma fighting isnt just about a punch a kick a knee a elbow and as for bruce he said be formless like water ? you say mma have real experts in all these arts ? mma isnt 1 art its a mix and what did any gracie do to those with one art beat them with subs
@ luizinho81 have you never seen the early ufc ? not real fighters ? ken shamrock not a real fighter and jodo champ Remco Pardoel and art jimmerson the boxer arnt real fighters ???? what you on about they where all trained in single arts and you clearly dont watch mma then if you say they get dominated ? all so before the ufc mma era the gracies dominated every art they fought with the ufc that they came up with they made people realize the importance of ground fighting
@domokunAA with all respect to you. This really works, I have done things like this to lots guys like you that doubt about Gracie Jiu-jitsu/Karate techniques work in the streets. And I am not even a black belt.
gracies are weak they all just live in the gym afraid to fight they always get beat by mua tai experts besides with rules bjj is good is it better then judo or jiu jitsu is as good bjj alone is no good i have seen bjj fighters get beat by mma in real life in the streets bjj you would have to be stupid to used it rather use judo never on the ground
@domokunAA never said it didn't include it besides bjj is derived from jiu jitus just it isn't pracitical on the streets i would love to see you use bjj on the streeets and get your ass ripppedd hahahah but you probably would love that if it was a gracie you homo
@TheBmike1 there were not even any real fighter then now you have real experts trained in mma like judo bjj jiu jitusu karate taekowndo muya tai kickboxing etc do you see any of this gracies dominating mma no!and if they do fight in mma they get dominated by others who have mastered all forms off martial arts even bruce lee said just one form of martial arts is not sufficient he was beyond his time!all this guys are good for is teaching in their dojo and staying there!peace
@luizinho81 Except that using bjj in a street fight just wouldn't be practical anyone would know that. I mean you're not even supposed to be using this shit in street fights anyways. But yeah just keep acting like a badass behind your computer screen bro it suits you well.
Shit... kid five in from the left is one big 12 year old! Great great teacher here, where is your academy? I'd love to take a few classes if I get the opportunity.
the kid actually asked for them to change direction so he could see... dang, those kids actually want to learn martial arts! he wasn't lying when he said they were focused. i've never seen that in a kids martial arts class before.
the set up hes showing is for use against someone who has no training,not another grappler,youll never get a trained man to put their hand on the ground like that in full guard.
@billysue2 I figured that, too. But is the kimura so regular? If not, their arms, maybe wailing, wouldn't be an obstacle still unless they predicted my applying the kimura, particularly if someones on top with the cross.
I'm not sure why but some people just don't tap when i put them in guillotine, it maybe just my poor guillotine grip but this kimura is more effective i think...
The reason why is proble for a couple of reasons. 1. You might be leaving to much space in the guillotine. Remember to look upwards and make it tight! 2. If it is not in a good grip people tend to escape better that way so if there is a chance to escape why tap? Like I said make sure its tight!!! 3. The reason why they most likely tap more often with the kimura is that they know you have it and they can feel the pain of there arm getting bent into the wrong direction and they know it will break!
You can if the other person is very very determined to try to get up. If he tries really hard to lift his head up you can easily get the guillotine. This scenario is for when the person rests so you go for the kimura
That was a nice move i like that technique a lot i was just practicing the riding variation of the kimura. This one is nice too. Thank you for the post and keep up the good work.
Really nice. i love to see those kids fighting in play ground.lol. kimura left his name with a judo move.Don't get me wrong I have the greatest respect for ne waza. Mr. Shina ,8th dan, of japan judo taught us first and foremost as juniors that we were to never try these techniques in anger. they were to be used only as a last resort in a situation where we were forced to fight. Kids will be kids. Even I as a kid wondered how well it would work in a real fight. responsibility is key. respectfully
lol "this is a very focused group" then watch the back round at 1:25
y2taner 3 months ago
2 people are ignorant
bealedozer 9 months ago
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greatest teachers ever.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
greatest teacher ever.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
Great teacher, he knows how to explain why, but even better, he know how to explain why not.
robertfox05 11 months ago 2
awsome teacher
tricirlin 1 year ago
LOL at the kid who asks him to turn around..........Rener almost seemed to be thinking......"Oh God kid we're shooting a video, it's not all about you"
What did W.C. Fields say about being upstaged by children?
Ya gotta love Rener. He's the best.
SCROGY 1 year ago
great teacher the best
jjms666 1 year ago
So much Renergy!
cquenault 1 year ago 2
PLEASE STOP SAYING GRACIE JIU JITSU
PLEASE IT IS BRAZILIAN JIU JITSU
UR GRANDFATHER WASNT THE ONLY ONE PRACTICING IT
THEY WERE FEW WHO WERE TAUGHT BY THE JAPANESE
NOW THE BRAZILIANS DID IMPROVE AND EVOLVE THE GAME
SO U CALL IT JIU JITSU OR BJJ BUT NO WAY GJJ
MUCH RESPECT THOUGH
I LOVE THE GRACIS BUT IT JUST PISSES ME OFF WHEN U MAKE UP A NAME
IT IS BECOMING BUISNESS NOW
U GUYS ARE GREAT TEACHERS TEACH FOR THE PASSION OF TEACHING NOT FOR THE MONEY U MAKE ONLINE TESTS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
theflyingpharaohmido 1 year ago
@theflyingpharaohmido The reason they call it Gracie JJ is not because of the techniques but more because of their teaching method. All of this is essentially Kodokan Judo with a few added sweeps and guards (De La Riva sweep/guard, Rubber Guard, etc). They teach the techniques of Judo/BJJ but their method of teaching is GJJ. Royce clearly explains the difference in this video:
watch?v=f6jnoSbEKfw
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@theflyingpharaohmido actually there is a difference. they are not calling it gracie jiujitsu because the gracies pioneered it. they call it gracie jiujitsu because of the way they as gracies teach it, and the fundamentals, compared to the way other jiu jitsu schools teach it. for example, the requirements for bluebelt are focused on solely self defence to defend against a bigger, stronger attacker in the street as apposed to sport jiu jitsu schools that may focus more on competition style "bjj"
beatjugglez 1 year ago
theflyingpharaohmido 1 year ago
@theflyingpharaohmido please correct me if im wrong, because my understanding is that helio is the founder, perhaps im being closed minded to believe that? i agree with the online belt testing being business, and its definitely not the best way to progress, but you do have to show a thorough understanding of the required techniques to pass. and as far as dissing eddie bravo, this is the first ive heard of that..
beatjugglez 1 year ago
theflyingpharaohmido 1 year ago
@theflyingpharaohmido
Helio IS the founder of BJJ.
Who the hell do you think it was LOL
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@theflyingpharaohmido
The reason why you run into many guys who say Helio is the founder of BJJ is because its true.
Helio IS the founder of BJJ.
Tell me, who did YOU think was the founder?
Ive NEVER run into anyone else apart from you who doesnt know Helio is the founder.
LOL
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS dude please just dont talk about stuf you dont know ask any guy from brazil and he would tell you the gracies learnt the game from the japaneses and said we founded this WTF
history is history you cant change history helio didnt found shit he did innovate some techniques and he is agreat jiu jitsu practiocioner dont get me wrong but if it were like that then eddie bravo founded jiu jitsu also did ryan hall
theflyingpharaohmido 10 months ago
@theflyingpharaohmido
Helio DID found GJJ(BJJ)
And Eddie Bravo DID found his style of jiu jitsu(10th planet)
And Bruce Lee founded JKD(Jeet kune do)
You need to give respect where its due, my friend.
And dont say I dont know what Im talking about.
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS whatever man there is no point of arguing with you really helio is a great master but he didnt invent the techniques he was just a student 95% of todays bjj came from judo
but whatever
theflyingpharaohmido 10 months ago
@theflyingpharaohmido
I didnt say he invented the techniques, just that he founded the art of GJJ.
It doesnt matter where BJJ comes from, just as it doesnt matter where JKD or 10th Planet Jiu jitsu comes from.
What matters who founded those STYLES and principles that define those arts.
Let me ask you a question - who is the founder of the very 1st jiu jitsu technique/style?
SkemeKOS 10 months ago
@SkemeKOS we dont know thats why you shouldnt say that a particaular person is the founder
dude dont get me wrong the gracies are legends they introduced jiu jitsu to the world but helio didnt found jiu jitsu he was a student who earned his black belt from his master how could he be the founder
this game evolved through out hundreds of years and is still evolving seriously the japaneses are the ones to thank for this great art who names a martial art after his family name anyway?!!!!!!!!!!!!
theflyingpharaohmido 10 months ago
@theflyingpharaohmido Helio was taught Japanese Jiu Jitsu as a reward for helping his friend..His friend didn't have money so instead he said that he'll teach him and his sons Jiu Jitsu...Royce was the one that wasn't allowed to really train with the brothers as much and in result of years of see techniques he would change them and on one day the brothers said to their clients we can't teach today so Royce said can i and they laughed and said OK after the client had said he wanted Royce teach it
JordyBT 9 months ago
@JordyBT wrong,helio never even met maeda,he was too young,carlos learned judo ,not juijitsu from maeda and later taught all the other brothers.You are also confusing helio with his own son royce
scarred10 6 months ago
@SkemeKOS you dont know what your talking about
macka737 8 months ago
@macka737 Yes, I do.
SkemeKOS 8 months ago
@SkemeKOS there was no founder,carlos learned judo and then started to adapt it along with helio and the entire family over the nexr 80 yrs or so.
scarred10 6 months ago
the fact is that this art branched off from judo when helio started adapting techniques, just as judo branched off when kano continued jujutsu. kano's judo doesnt emphasize the ground techniques as much as bjj does. bjj became its own thing even with its roots in judo. and the gracie family simply founded this particular offshoot of japanese jujutsu.
Tarius729 3 months ago
@Tarius729 its an offshoot of judo not jujitsu,the gracies never learned any jujitsu and neither did maeda.
scarred10 3 months ago
@scarred10 youre crazy. where do you think judo came from? kano adapted it from traditional jujutsu. at the time maeda went over to brazil, some people were still calling judo "kano jujutsu"
Tarius729 3 months ago
@Tarius729 thats right ,he adapted it,he started to use sparring as the main training method so discarded the crap that didnt work,thats why judo works and japjitsu doesnt so well for most people.They were calling it jujitsu but it wasnt,jujitsu had virtually no sparring,little to no groundwork(due to battlefield needs),it was trained via 2 man compliant forms like it still is in japan.
scarred10 3 months ago
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Tarius729 3 months ago
What would you do if he DOES straightens his arm in the middle of the kimura? I was on the mount one time and my opponent had arms of steel. I tried to apply a kimura and he straightened his arm enough to avoid it but not enough for me to armbar it. How do you force him to bend his elbow or what transition do you recommend?
cubaninc 1 year ago
@cubaninc I've found that if you'll just hold that position until you can get your leg over the back, you can loop your leg over his arm briefly to break it back down into a good control angle. If it's someone that's just inhumanly fucking strong, just keep fighting for inches and crawling your legs up his back. He'll tap or you'll take his arm home.
clipophile 1 year ago
this guy will submit me in like 5 seconds with just looking at me hahaha
cristianoalejandro1 1 year ago
Why does he yell like a retarded kid?
Svittidiu 1 year ago
@ luizinho81 in the 80s before the ufc era they did also i do mma let me tell you someone on top of u hitting you and you dont know any ground fighting /techniques your just going to get your face smashed in also there are good gracie fighters in mma fighting isnt just about a punch a kick a knee a elbow and as for bruce he said be formless like water ? you say mma have real experts in all these arts ? mma isnt 1 art its a mix and what did any gracie do to those with one art beat them with subs
TheBmike1 1 year ago
@ luizinho81 have you never seen the early ufc ? not real fighters ? ken shamrock not a real fighter and jodo champ Remco Pardoel and art jimmerson the boxer arnt real fighters ???? what you on about they where all trained in single arts and you clearly dont watch mma then if you say they get dominated ? all so before the ufc mma era the gracies dominated every art they fought with the ufc that they came up with they made people realize the importance of ground fighting
TheBmike1 1 year ago
@domokunAA with all respect to you. This really works, I have done things like this to lots guys like you that doubt about Gracie Jiu-jitsu/Karate techniques work in the streets. And I am not even a black belt.
xelahm1 1 year ago
Best instructional videos on youtube by far. "Expert" village ought to check this out.
domokunAA 1 year ago 3
gracies are weak they all just live in the gym afraid to fight they always get beat by mua tai experts besides with rules bjj is good is it better then judo or jiu jitsu is as good bjj alone is no good i have seen bjj fighters get beat by mma in real life in the streets bjj you would have to be stupid to used it rather use judo never on the ground
luizinho81 1 year ago
@luizinho81 And you would have to be stupid to assume that mma doesn't include a lot of bjj submissions.
domokunAA 1 year ago
@domokunAA never said it didn't include it besides bjj is derived from jiu jitus just it isn't pracitical on the streets i would love to see you use bjj on the streeets and get your ass ripppedd hahahah but you probably would love that if it was a gracie you homo
luizinho81 1 year ago 2
@luizinho81 is that why royce gracie won ufc 1 ?????
TheBmike1 1 year ago
@TheBmike1 there were not even any real fighter then now you have real experts trained in mma like judo bjj jiu jitusu karate taekowndo muya tai kickboxing etc do you see any of this gracies dominating mma no!and if they do fight in mma they get dominated by others who have mastered all forms off martial arts even bruce lee said just one form of martial arts is not sufficient he was beyond his time!all this guys are good for is teaching in their dojo and staying there!peace
luizinho81 1 year ago
@luizinho81 Except that using bjj in a street fight just wouldn't be practical anyone would know that. I mean you're not even supposed to be using this shit in street fights anyways. But yeah just keep acting like a badass behind your computer screen bro it suits you well.
domokunAA 1 year ago
@luizinho81 your an idiot, learn some respect. bjj is great for streetfights
scarso55555 1 year ago
Shit... kid five in from the left is one big 12 year old! Great great teacher here, where is your academy? I'd love to take a few classes if I get the opportunity.
danboy2000 1 year ago
this move is boss won so many matches with it. but be careful you dont need to use that much strength to break the shoulder. boss but dangerous move
takimaster07 2 years ago
"this move is boss"
??
wtf is "boss" supposed to mean? Where are you from?
PanKrato 2 years ago
the kid actually asked for them to change direction so he could see... dang, those kids actually want to learn martial arts! he wasn't lying when he said they were focused. i've never seen that in a kids martial arts class before.
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago 4
a mulakada la atrás num ta nem prestando atenção rsrsrsrsrss...
bom JIU JÍTSU pra vcs.
gagarinn678 2 years ago
i dont think the Jr. Grapplers could see this technique because of his angle lol
guillotinex17 2 years ago
man everyone postures back with me so annoying i never can get kimura
lagook 2 years ago
Thats because your full guard is weak.
yeee941 2 years ago
yea its improved ta
i jsut pulll higher guard and drag them down
lagook 2 years ago
Yeah? Good to hear,All it itakes is time and most Importantly Expirience. Also doing squats at Home will Help. Good Luck Rolling
yeee941 2 years ago
the set up hes showing is for use against someone who has no training,not another grappler,youll never get a trained man to put their hand on the ground like that in full guard.
billysue2 2 years ago
haha that makes total sense then cuz i never see the kimura from the ground
lagook 2 years ago
@billysue2 I figured that, too. But is the kimura so regular? If not, their arms, maybe wailing, wouldn't be an obstacle still unless they predicted my applying the kimura, particularly if someones on top with the cross.
Efferts 1 year ago
@Efferts that isnt even the english language.
billysue2 1 year ago
is he on cocaine? he's very manic
thejerk 2 years ago
Are you kidding me? How can it be explained any better? Bravo! Long live GJJ!
yeee941 2 years ago 3
Can they be any better? Geesh, impressive.
bertinotti 2 years ago 2
again another awesome lesson by Rener!
wiseguy112 2 years ago
I love this move
sk8pirata 2 years ago
this guy is born to teach. Nobody can teach better than him
yzyt 2 years ago 45
lol
Innermage 3 years ago 2
THis guy is a great teacher.He speaks well,has much understanding and is passionate about teaching
NewZealfighter 3 years ago 31
at 1:33, why not just go for a guillotine ?
cburcinc 3 years ago
simply because they are teaching here how to apply the kimura....
batorang 3 years ago 3
I'm not sure why but some people just don't tap when i put them in guillotine, it maybe just my poor guillotine grip but this kimura is more effective i think...
tonytocanova 3 years ago
The reason why is proble for a couple of reasons. 1. You might be leaving to much space in the guillotine. Remember to look upwards and make it tight! 2. If it is not in a good grip people tend to escape better that way so if there is a chance to escape why tap? Like I said make sure its tight!!! 3. The reason why they most likely tap more often with the kimura is that they know you have it and they can feel the pain of there arm getting bent into the wrong direction and they know it will break!
DarkBeam 3 years ago 2
I'm no teacher but I hope this helps!
DarkBeam 3 years ago
keep your guard tight, push your hips up, and look up and back...flex ur arms and keep a tight grip
chucknorrispranks 2 years ago
You can if the other person is very very determined to try to get up. If he tries really hard to lift his head up you can easily get the guillotine. This scenario is for when the person rests so you go for the kimura
Vash1202 3 years ago
That was a nice move i like that technique a lot i was just practicing the riding variation of the kimura. This one is nice too. Thank you for the post and keep up the good work.
peterguns170 3 years ago 2
An Americana goes the OTHER way
WhtMike2006 3 years ago
How is this the Americana?
FLKeyz76 3 years ago
That's a crazy technique, lol I might use it for the NABJJ tournament. Thanks guys
bs31412 3 years ago
Really nice. i love to see those kids fighting in play ground.lol. kimura left his name with a judo move.Don't get me wrong I have the greatest respect for ne waza. Mr. Shina ,8th dan, of japan judo taught us first and foremost as juniors that we were to never try these techniques in anger. they were to be used only as a last resort in a situation where we were forced to fight. Kids will be kids. Even I as a kid wondered how well it would work in a real fight. responsibility is key. respectfully
lallope 3 years ago 3
youre awesome.
Durgeofcerberus 3 years ago
Nice work. I can't wait to come back to class, I get my cast off soon.
PointBlankBen 3 years ago
thanks
lilpunpwns 3 years ago
I love this variation.
DarkBeam 3 years ago
Great work guys!
roscobjj 3 years ago