saw them last night at bamboozle. best band in the entire festival. i really wish i wasnt like 8 when they were still local playing vfws and american legions.
@ericbloodaxe88 lmao your funny as hell i dont know how anyone in here can take you serious lmao you crack me up cuz people should pity you instead of getting mad you go around saying nigger like you hurting sumone your prob a mixed baby rite matter of fact hitler was part jew even better is was a bitch cuz instead of facing wat he did he killed himself hmmmmmmm tuff guy huh truth is your prob guy and cant stand the fact u like black penis in your butt its ok no ones judging u ok buddy
when someone talks all the kinda tuff guy shit he does..one should be able to back it up.
from the looks of this nigger he couldn't tear open a paper bag..sure..dont judge your enemy on looks alone..but he looks frail.for the thug shit he talks.
eric..... your such a faggot why dont u keep ur bitch mouth closed and shut the fuck up. no one wants to hear ur shit. if u just write to complain, GET A LIFE. now fuck off.
@ericbloodaxe88 if that is how you feel don't tell us that........tell it to Anthony Dimartini so he can break you in half you racist homo.
But since im from Staten Island,NY and we will never cross paths fuck it ill tell you what you are eric.......a fucking crybaby.Now that is saying alot about you.May you rest in peices.
how exactly can someone be a white nigger? And uh.... out of shape faggot? I didnt know you had to have the perfect body to be in the music industry... you are the one judging a dudes body sooo... Seems to me like you are a closet faggot. Its okay...its actually legal to marry other faggots in most states now so you can
"come out". Honestly dude... if you dont like the fuckin music.. dont fuckin listen to it. Why waste your time makin comments about shit? Let us enjoy our "white nigger faggot" music and you go enjoy the garbage you listen to. I would very much like to see you and your "neo nazi" boys come through to a show so they
could "play around the wrong people (bc I am assuming you mean you and your boys)" and get themselves hurt... I dont know how your boys role...but most people dont go to shows to "start real shit"... most people go to shows to enjoy the music...at least thats what I heard.. But what do I know... I'm from Jersey...
this dude below me needs to just stop....trying to punk people from his computer chair.....fuckin RETARDED....and the singer from this band looks like he could SNAP a fool if he wanted to lol
yo i stiraght up used to live in e'town my friend went to highschool with these guy i meet the guitarist last night he striaght up teaches a town away from me,saw him at a show hes one of the nicest guys ever
Nah dude, this song was on their last album "Made For War", Mandibles and Heart of The Wolves were on "The Renaissance" and Shaydee was on "The Second Coming" and a demo or two.
Really? I'm in the middle of downloading "Made for War" right now and this doesn't show up on it. I have it on one of my burned CD's (a mix of Renaissance and Time 2 Shine). My download might just be incorrect, and my mix CD does have a few tracks that I don't know the origins from tho, so you're probably right
you ever hear Poison the Well? They mix alternative and hardcore on some of their material such as Botchla and Slice Paper Wrists, great stuff. There is always no ideas and new ways to make music thats the beauty of it
Evan, name three GOOD hardcore bands that NEVER have melodic vocals. And by hardcore I mean ACTUAL hardcore. True old school hardcore, not today's bullshit definition of screamo/metalcore bullshit.
@sk8ter1962 yeah i had a cousin once lmao. but becoz its my cousin i should get credit aswell for some fucked up reason hahahaha. get over yaself dude
E-Town fuckin rules... Ant kicks ass. great lyricist. First time i met him he had fresh trackmarks and didnt know where he was. back when he was 18 and skinny. Ya got chubby Ant... isnt the first time ive told u that haha
Yes. Its pretty weak compared to places in NJ Newark Camden Trenton...i dont really care tho...NOWHERE in CT will ever have any of the allure that NYC or NJ has
yeah ur right....NYHC has alot more beatdowns and most northern eastcoast groups r like that.
theres still some DC bands that keep it real but yeah emo did form there, like how the whole straight edge hardcore was in Boston. each part of the US has a certain sound and style to hardcore
like California and the west coast his more fast and pissed off like also pretty melodic for some bands
None of those bands have a DC sound, and even if they did, you can't call a New York band a DC band, just like you can't call a Boston band an LA band. Also, it has to do with what you rep. Hatebreed's always called themselves CT Hardcore, and E-Town is named after their town in New Jersey. NJ/NY scenes are closely linked but there's differences between NJHC and NYHC.
Checked this out as a recommendation on the Machine Head forum. I like it. I'm still fuzzy on what exactly is NYC hardcore but I do like the new Dry Kill Logic album and this is pretty cool too. Thanks guys.
you are a tard. ETC is good, but its nowhere near Sick Of It All, Madball or Agnostic Front. If you think so, you should probably listen to those bands, compare them to ETC and then restructure your comment.
yeah well i said one of theres wrecking crew, slapshot etc. REAL, old hardcore not todays shit thats ending up in fuckin hot topic stores and becoming mainstream shit
i don't think Hatebreed are categorized as NYHC,cause as far as i know NYHC are the oldschool bands(SOIA,madball,AF etc.)but none the less - a kick-ass band.i am thankfull i went to see them once!
Hatebreed aren't NYHC because they're not from NY, they're from CT. Also, a band doesn't have to be old school to be NYHC; Most Precious Blood is NYHC.
Hatebreed aren't NYHC because they're not from NY, they're from CT.Also, a band doesn't have to be old school to be NYHC; Most Precious Blood is NYHC.
they were the best watching them at dr shays in lindenhurst new york there first 2 cds were the best the renassiance was good to but there last one i am told its not good at all i wish all the old school bands would come back and show these emo fags what hardcore is
donnybrook from providence r.i. they may be hard to find. but good stuff none the less the bleeding the grain cd kicks ass but like e.t.c.there no longer around anyway check it out if you can find
its too bad a band like this calls it quits.musically it works on every level . one of the best bands of the time which wasnt all that long ago all an all the shit had balls
But England gave us Bush, which is one of the best bands to come to America. =D Thank youuu! Sixteen Stone was probably the best CD to ever come out in the states. I hear Bush is a little dated in England, though.
Bush had some good songs: Little Things, Machine Head, Glycerine, The Chemicals Between Us. They were one of those bands to emerge in the U.S. here in the 90's that seemed to unfortunately fade once the 21st Century was in full throttle.
Yeah, I love Bush. Gavin Rossdale tried acting for a little bit, but went back to performing with a band called "Institute." Bush is getting back together, soon.
Fuck Yeah! now that was one of the greatest band ever !!! I love them, there are one of my big infuences in music. Greeting from Poland, too bad that you're not together any more, pozdro od ekipy P4P
yeah i agree. they nevet got the credit they deserved. i heard them firsat on headbangers ball and i saw theit profile on revolver magazine. cool guys!
was this recorded with a cell phone
wkeil1981 4 months ago
saw them last night at bamboozle. best band in the entire festival. i really wish i wasnt like 8 when they were still local playing vfws and american legions.
GnRfreeak666 9 months ago
Great band. I'd love to see this video in better quality.
Drewha696 1 year ago
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xbox360jr11 1 year ago
to bad this is the only vid,and such low quality,but thanks anyway shesaheretic
DomnulSarb 1 year ago
yoo, teddy is one of the greatest drummers ever, his fuckin abbility to drum off beat nd make it still sond great, is crazy
slackywhack 1 year ago
this shit is boss lol
skidrowe100 1 year ago
lol dont be mad that your below me
your a bitch.
its the computer
in person ud get got :)
go listen to ur nigger cock music
ericbloodaxe88 1 year ago
@ericbloodaxe88 lmao your funny as hell i dont know how anyone in here can take you serious lmao you crack me up cuz people should pity you instead of getting mad you go around saying nigger like you hurting sumone your prob a mixed baby rite matter of fact hitler was part jew even better is was a bitch cuz instead of facing wat he did he killed himself hmmmmmmm tuff guy huh truth is your prob guy and cant stand the fact u like black penis in your butt its ok no ones judging u ok buddy
hannibal1313 1 year ago
Great song....classic band!
ryanko6 1 year ago
LOL.
how can one be a white nigger.
well..just look at the clown in this band.
and yes. im insulting his weak body.
when someone talks all the kinda tuff guy shit he does..one should be able to back it up.
from the looks of this nigger he couldn't tear open a paper bag..sure..dont judge your enemy on looks alone..but he looks frail.for the thug shit he talks.
fuck him and his fucking band and his fans.
ericbloodaxe88 1 year ago
LOL.!!! baHAHAHAHAHA this is great.
yup long island. want info were u can ''come threw mad deep yo'' and find me? :)
fuck this nigger bullshit. fuck anyone who likes it.
i dont go to hardcore shows. i have. but they call cops when u start REAL shit.
we are working on some real nice real deal neo nazi kill you music tho. me and some boys.
if it goes anywere ill make sure to get put on any show with any band who thinks they could shut what i have to say down.
no tuff talk. FACT.
ericbloodaxe88 1 year ago
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bengief 1 year ago
and where are you from u bitch
hardcoresk8er96 1 year ago
eric..... your such a faggot why dont u keep ur bitch mouth closed and shut the fuck up. no one wants to hear ur shit. if u just write to complain, GET A LIFE. now fuck off.
hardcoresk8er96 1 year ago
To Eric, they have played in long island several times. Ain't shit happened. You just a dick ducking E-thug
Subietech201 1 year ago
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LOL. trying to what
punk?
first off im pointing out the truth.
this guy is a WHITE NIGGER.
second. hes an outta shape faggot.
im not getting hard.esp not online (thats for people in to hardcore0 lol.
just saying if he ..they..were to play around the wrong people that ''gansta'' bullshit would get em hurt.
long island sucks dick the same as nj. nigger filth everywhere. both states..ny..an nj should get burnt down.
88
ericbloodaxe88 2 years ago
@ericbloodaxe88 if that is how you feel don't tell us that........tell it to Anthony Dimartini so he can break you in half you racist homo.
But since im from Staten Island,NY and we will never cross paths fuck it ill tell you what you are eric.......a fucking crybaby.Now that is saying alot about you.May you rest in peices.
CarlPanzram7390 1 year ago 2
@ericbloodaxe88
@ericbloodaxe88
how exactly can someone be a white nigger? And uh.... out of shape faggot? I didnt know you had to have the perfect body to be in the music industry... you are the one judging a dudes body sooo... Seems to me like you are a closet faggot. Its okay...its actually legal to marry other faggots in most states now so you can
xsxredxsx 1 year ago
@xsxredxsx
"come out". Honestly dude... if you dont like the fuckin music.. dont fuckin listen to it. Why waste your time makin comments about shit? Let us enjoy our "white nigger faggot" music and you go enjoy the garbage you listen to. I would very much like to see you and your "neo nazi" boys come through to a show so they
xsxredxsx 1 year ago
@xsxredxsx
could "play around the wrong people (bc I am assuming you mean you and your boys)" and get themselves hurt... I dont know how your boys role...but most people dont go to shows to "start real shit"... most people go to shows to enjoy the music...at least thats what I heard.. But what do I know... I'm from Jersey...
Fuckin Idiot...
xsxredxsx 1 year ago
this dude below me needs to just stop....trying to punk people from his computer chair.....fuckin RETARDED....and the singer from this band looks like he could SNAP a fool if he wanted to lol
allinstylez84 2 years ago 2
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hes a pussy nigger wanta be.
hell get his lights put out he comes on or around long island.
ericbloodaxe88 2 years ago
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harvey041070 2 years ago
you tryin to shoot down jersey n u from LI? bluff ass nigga fuck you
xiindkix2 2 years ago
All I can say is the lead singer is a hottie, muah!
starbellie0579 2 years ago
sick ass band...coming from a guy that only listens to rap.
619Niners 2 years ago 3
best rapcore band ever
jesse1900 2 years ago 13
@jesse1900 hahaha i randomly called it rapcore when i heard it but didnt actually know thats what it was called lol tripped
sockyb 1 year ago
awesome
walterkain 2 years ago 2
i live in elizabeth, and "Ted P" is my teacher for one of my highschool classes.
:)
AmazingVilma 2 years ago 3
LIAR!
He's my dad, he lives in LA with the rest of the muppets!
Icantunderstandyou 2 years ago
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AmazingVilma 2 years ago
yo i stiraght up used to live in e'town my friend went to highschool with these guy i meet the guitarist last night he striaght up teaches a town away from me,saw him at a show hes one of the nicest guys ever
thatgraffkid92 2 years ago
straight up yo
ikLiiMaXx 2 years ago
straight up yo LOL. FUCKIN NIG.
crushrockimpact 2 years ago
is he straight up one of the nicest guys ever or is he just the nicest guy ever
Dubet 2 years ago
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this video is awesome
core950 2 years ago
E-Town's old shit was way better.
iizanthonybuck 2 years ago
.. this is their old shit. This is from the same CD with Mandibles, Heart of the Wolves, Shaydee, etc.
Feuerfrei715 2 years ago
Nah dude, this song was on their last album "Made For War", Mandibles and Heart of The Wolves were on "The Renaissance" and Shaydee was on "The Second Coming" and a demo or two.
iizanthonybuck 2 years ago
Really? I'm in the middle of downloading "Made for War" right now and this doesn't show up on it. I have it on one of my burned CD's (a mix of Renaissance and Time 2 Shine). My download might just be incorrect, and my mix CD does have a few tracks that I don't know the origins from tho, so you're probably right
Feuerfrei715 2 years ago
Yea, I know my facts about E-Town, but it's all good.
iizanthonybuck 2 years ago
talkin fuck tha world demo, beat ya like chump to show ya where i come from
feebles927 2 years ago
ful pogo
Superkaiserock 2 years ago
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slipknot rules, but so does E-Town. This song is some real shit, I love it.
myth6727 3 years ago
first off, how does slipknot even get into a discussion regarding hardcore?
second: no. they suck. mallcore groovy numetal
third: after about minute of this etown crap ive decided this band is awful, whats with the lame singing, totally destroys the mood
either play in a alt rock band or hardcore but dont pretend you can pull em both off
CrunkRockSteadyEvan 2 years ago
you ever hear Poison the Well? They mix alternative and hardcore on some of their material such as Botchla and Slice Paper Wrists, great stuff. There is always no ideas and new ways to make music thats the beauty of it
myth6727 2 years ago
Evan, name three GOOD hardcore bands that NEVER have melodic vocals. And by hardcore I mean ACTUAL hardcore. True old school hardcore, not today's bullshit definition of screamo/metalcore bullshit.
Feuerfrei715 2 years ago
ETC cant wait for the concert
soarersupra 3 years ago
are you going to the friday night or saturday night show?
xRTPx 3 years ago
friday
soarersupra 3 years ago
so everyone agrees that slipknot sucks
soarersupra 3 years ago
''i can do anyhing at all''
''i can keep geuesing were u form''
''i can do anyhing at all''
''wat can i doooo''
that part makes me think of another song
i dunno wat song
talsma0 3 years ago
Maybe it's because you heard the lyrics wrong;
"I can't do anything at all."
"I can't keep catching when you fall."
End0Game 3 years ago 3
lol
soarersupra 3 years ago
right lol
ibkeith24 2 years ago
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Leahkitty4u56 3 years ago
fuck slipknot etc rules
metalhead6756 3 years ago 3
truth
soarersupra 3 years ago
etc! they rock
metalhead6756 3 years ago
im da biggest etc fan ever
metalhead6756 3 years ago
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this band is still fucking around..i liked them when htey were on headbangers ball with i punch the walls! iam happy
evezdroppa 3 years ago
teddy is my motherfuckin cousin so screw all u
sk8ter1962 3 years ago 8
@sk8ter1962 yeah i had a cousin once lmao. but becoz its my cousin i should get credit aswell for some fucked up reason hahahaha. get over yaself dude
sockyb 1 year ago
@sockyb ? im not taking credit hes family lol piss off
sk8ter1962 11 months ago
@sk8ter1962 he's my teacher
cristianv2 1 year ago
@cristianv2 haha hes my couzin teddy lol whats good
sk8ter1962 11 months ago
E-Town fuckin rules... Ant kicks ass. great lyricist. First time i met him he had fresh trackmarks and didnt know where he was. back when he was 18 and skinny. Ya got chubby Ant... isnt the first time ive told u that haha
darkdrgon2136 3 years ago
Check out Londons crime rate. So much smaller than NYC yet the crime rate is like 3x more.
Icantunderstandyou 3 years ago
Yes. Its pretty weak compared to places in NJ Newark Camden Trenton...i dont really care tho...NOWHERE in CT will ever have any of the allure that NYC or NJ has
jerseyimperial 3 years ago
youve clearly only been to lower Manhatten and NO other borough. NYC eats New Haven as a snack..
jerseyimperial 3 years ago
yeah ur right....NYHC has alot more beatdowns and most northern eastcoast groups r like that.
theres still some DC bands that keep it real but yeah emo did form there, like how the whole straight edge hardcore was in Boston. each part of the US has a certain sound and style to hardcore
like California and the west coast his more fast and pissed off like also pretty melodic for some bands
bosssoundbob 3 years ago
None of those bands have a DC sound, and even if they did, you can't call a New York band a DC band, just like you can't call a Boston band an LA band. Also, it has to do with what you rep. Hatebreed's always called themselves CT Hardcore, and E-Town is named after their town in New Jersey. NJ/NY scenes are closely linked but there's differences between NJHC and NYHC.
unbridledenthusiasm 3 years ago
everybody from e town is from new jersey the drummer teddy and singer anythony are from elisaith nj.
vphilvphilownz 3 years ago
Checked this out as a recommendation on the Machine Head forum. I like it. I'm still fuzzy on what exactly is NYC hardcore but I do like the new Dry Kill Logic album and this is pretty cool too. Thanks guys.
HughGWrekshin 3 years ago
NYC Hardcore, is bands like Sick of It All, Agnostic Front, Madball, Vision of Disorder. Check it out.
mattcribbin 3 years ago
Nice bass!!Nice song!
Moombatron 3 years ago
They are from NJ
E-town means Elizabeth. Its a city in NJ
Duhh
Blitzbrave17 3 years ago
shut the fuck all of you the drummer is my couzin there a fuckin good band stop fucking argueing about bands, fuck!
sk8ter1962 3 years ago 2
Sick Video!!!!
Xgone2x1134X 3 years ago
this guys kick ass dam ETC rules
drewlovetammy 3 years ago
hatebreed is from conneticut buddy
deathsoul59 3 years ago
yes it is what can i do
Hateling 3 years ago
isnt the song called "what can i do" ?
BlindNarut0 3 years ago
97' Stone Pony Asbury Park N.J i did lighting for stone pony.
pooj187 4 years ago
one of the best hardcore bands around!!!!!! fuck yeah
xdeadwaterx 4 years ago
hardcore?arent SOIA,Madball,Agnostic Front the best hardcorebands around
BlindNarut0 3 years ago
fuck them etc kicks there ass
sk8ter1962 3 years ago
you are a tard. ETC is good, but its nowhere near Sick Of It All, Madball or Agnostic Front. If you think so, you should probably listen to those bands, compare them to ETC and then restructure your comment.
ExodusDisplayer 3 years ago
yeah well i said one of theres wrecking crew, slapshot etc. REAL, old hardcore not todays shit thats ending up in fuckin hot topic stores and becoming mainstream shit
xdeadwaterx 3 years ago
I think Hatebreed is also one of the best NYHC bands Around ... dont you ?:P
rapcore23 3 years ago
i don't think Hatebreed are categorized as NYHC,cause as far as i know NYHC are the oldschool bands(SOIA,madball,AF etc.)but none the less - a kick-ass band.i am thankfull i went to see them once!
BlindNarut0 3 years ago
Hatebreed aren't NYHC because they're not from NY, they're from CT. Also, a band doesn't have to be old school to be NYHC; Most Precious Blood is NYHC.
Ruffian26 3 years ago
Hatebreed aren't NYHC because they're not from NY, they're from CT.Also, a band doesn't have to be old school to be NYHC; Most Precious Blood is NYHC.
Ruffian26 3 years ago
ETC isn't from NY. neither is Hatebreed.
xdgk814 3 years ago
These fuckers are too good!TO BAD!
kas1727 4 years ago
@x0tearcatcher0x
WolfSerno 4 years ago
They aren't that bad, pretty good! :D
ametryn 4 years ago
the lead singer is my cousin <333
x0tearcatcher0x 4 years ago
congratulation......-.-
henahex 4 years ago
Then go and force him to reunite with he others. Family bondings you know...
Seriously, there´s nothing else in the rapcore/hardcore/xover genre like them. Stuck Mojo of course, but their new rapper sucks.
If you see him, maybe at the easter-dinner, tell him that there are some german guys who can´t fight their frustrations anymore.
We don´t need no more tributes, the society needs a new E-Town concrete release.
Regards from A-Town, Northern Germany
WolfSerno 4 years ago
97' Stone Pony Asbury Park N.J. nuff said!
mootmagee 4 years ago
they were the best watching them at dr shays in lindenhurst new york there first 2 cds were the best the renassiance was good to but there last one i am told its not good at all i wish all the old school bands would come back and show these emo fags what hardcore is
NyJoeC 4 years ago
yeah i do too
please let me know of any band that sound similar to ETC
toebens123 4 years ago
donnybrook from providence r.i. they may be hard to find. but good stuff none the less the bleeding the grain cd kicks ass but like e.t.c.there no longer around anyway check it out if you can find
tlm315 4 years ago
3rd strike and downset
thechaoswebreed 3 years ago
I FUCKING LOVE THIS BAND!!!!!!!
MysteriaOceania 4 years ago
yeah me too... they were so great live too...
missamandadotcom 4 years ago
hood as shit i miss seeing these guys
ryankrista666 4 years ago
ta pulento el video..
ta piola el tema..claro q en las partes suaves se parece a ill niño..claro si q mucho mejor!
;)
xxbuiltfrustrationxx 4 years ago
ill nino me la mama
xdeadwaterx 4 years ago
its too bad a band like this calls it quits.musically it works on every level . one of the best bands of the time which wasnt all that long ago all an all the shit had balls
tlm315 4 years ago
dude nj hardcore ftw man!!! uberawesome band! peace
Hateling 4 years ago
Whoa this bands fucking awsome. england really is deprived of the best Hardcore bands
DefilerhXc 4 years ago
Yea they are way more hardcore than some of the stuff i used to listen to. They are haaard hard core core core compare to thses guys:
CARCASS - Corporal Jigsore Quandary
MuskokaLad 4 years ago
But England gave us Bush, which is one of the best bands to come to America. =D Thank youuu! Sixteen Stone was probably the best CD to ever come out in the states. I hear Bush is a little dated in England, though.
krowanders 4 years ago
Bush had some good songs: Little Things, Machine Head, Glycerine, The Chemicals Between Us. They were one of those bands to emerge in the U.S. here in the 90's that seemed to unfortunately fade once the 21st Century was in full throttle.
Rawk4Life 4 years ago
Yeah, I love Bush. Gavin Rossdale tried acting for a little bit, but went back to performing with a band called "Institute." Bush is getting back together, soon.
krowanders 4 years ago
Fuck Yeah! now that was one of the greatest band ever !!! I love them, there are one of my big infuences in music. Greeting from Poland, too bad that you're not together any more, pozdro od ekipy P4P
p4psquad 4 years ago
I saw them back in '99 at a small A-town, PA club. One of the best groups live I've ever seen!
E-town 4 ever!
nyhc357 4 years ago
love these guys! they rox!
hekezdevil 4 years ago
great band and a great bunch of guys i'm glad i got to see them about a half dozen times before they called it quits.
dme2001 4 years ago
oooo shitttt....dats my teacher yooo.nnooo lieee
thejoker908150 4 years ago
fagggggg
TopherTheGroper 4 years ago
exelenteeeeeeeee !!!
kattytaxxx 4 years ago
e town 4 life... nj/hc
tuiz666 4 years ago
hell yea etown concrete for fucking ever
demonsbedriven666 4 years ago
yeah i agree. they nevet got the credit they deserved. i heard them firsat on headbangers ball and i saw theit profile on revolver magazine. cool guys!
choyvox 5 years ago
what can i say? it's what can i do
Head2Pie 5 years ago
best underrated band ever
jahman123 5 years ago
the best band in this world of shit the best lyrics what i read in my life they make music form the heart .
angelcrewfuckoff 5 years ago
gREAT E.TOWN! lEAVE uS wITHOUT sEE yOU iN cONCERTE hERE iN CHILE :(
elriskore 5 years ago
DIRTY JER-Z!!
crappy1 5 years ago
e-town will live forever in the heart of DIRTYJERZY
AngryJay 5 years ago
they are still fairly unknown if I am not mistaking
gourdouf 5 years ago
I cant believe people did not comment the best band
psykokrew360 5 years ago