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  • he's kidding, right? please tell me he's kidding...... his congregation looks worried about him

  • God created evolution, evolution didnt create GOD!!!:D

  • Please tell me this is a joke. Please. It kinda reminded me of an SNL sketch with Phil Donahue. I bet these folks are METHodists LOL.

  • After the sermon we'll be passing around a big jug. The lord wants everyone to take a bi-i-i-i-i-g gulp and then another one. Make sure the kiddies get some too.

  • The chicks in the hell video look way better, even after they are halfway melted and screaming in agony.

  • Watched it just for this part: 2:24

  • If Christianity didn't give him an outlet, this man would be a serial killer.

  • This is a fucking nightmare.

  • Wow where do I sign?

  • Man, and I thought David Cronenberg movies were creepy...

  • If we will never grow old in Heaven, why does God look a bazillion years old? Hahahahahahah

  • I think I want to go to hell.

  • Sounds perfect... if your idea of heaven is a crackified version of New York City.

  • Interesting how there is only white people in heaven!

  • So convincing!

    Where do I sign?

  • a bit from this was used on ''pass me by' off the great milenko''

  • Final analysis: We only exist at all because someone observed us, spoke us into existence - to observe and name the observation is to establish the particles that make up the "stuff" into the form it was named after. God created man in his own image. How? Same way he brought light into existence, by speaking it "Let there be light" and whammo! God says, in essence, these particles will become this, and these particles will become that. Interesting that man's first task is to name stuff. Wowsers

  • Did you all know that scientists have finally come to the realization that a particle can exist in two different states at the same time? It gets better...and that it only takes on its measurable, quantifiable state once it is observed? Implication - that in order for the random, chaotic mess of particles, energy, and probabilities to have become something it had to have been first observed. This is the explanation of I Am That I Am. The first observation - self awareness. God baby!

  • @amanddie1 They got the internet AND youtube in heaven?! HOLY FUCK AWESOME! when i get to heaven im going to jerk off to porn first thing!

  • This is SUCH Horse Shit LOL

  • @amanddie1 honestly wtf makes you think hes reading this?

  • "5,000 times higher than new york city"

    FUCK!! THE LIFT BROKE!!!!

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  • hmmmmm....even tho i 'm no fan of islam(e), or any other organized delusion of the ''answer' to the wonder of exsistence, and look for any way i can mock the prophets of the deluded....the preceding post..'if it includes muslims...' is not my post. i got a hackeer in my digi world. he shows up on facebook too. maybe he/its looking to get me fatwaw'd? the reel bishop joey. accept know sub(theres one in every religion)stitoots.

  • That whole thing was just....Surreal... i thought of that word after watching this. then i looked at the description and im not shocked at all! haha..

  • PUNT THAT THING!!! 

  • "It's over 5,000 times higher than New York City. This makes the New Jerusalem over 7 million times bigger than New York City."

    Estus has received some leaked blueprints. And he has a FACTUAL version of "The Burning Hell," rich with incredible special effects that WILL make you believe.

    "DOES THIS EXCITE YOU?!" (Words also spoken using the same robotic/drill instructor cadence to his wife in the sanctity of the marriage bed.)

  • Yes, this excites me.

  • That small lady is a good singer!

  • Jesus, if Heaven is 7 million times the size of NYC, how big does that make Hell!?

  • Is that Andy Kaufman at 1:54?

  • we've been wondering when the 'moderate' muslims are going to rise up against the radical muslims. how about moderate christians rise up against this moronic mentality.

  • @bishopjoey

    If it includes Muslims getting killed, I'm all for it.

  • Listen to ICP - Pass me By

  • Apparently only white people go to heaven or the minorities are kept in a different part. Sheesh.

  • Holy shit that midget is creepy as fuck! Delusional bastards, white islam is what christianity is! This is their version of the 70 versions, mansions in heaven!

  • The scary part is that millions of Americans believe this is true.

  • Lord have MERCY. I'm a preacher. And if this were what I thought Heaven and "Christianity" was really about, I'd be an atheist.

  • The little girl at 2:50 looks like she's having a little trouble with the dwarf being there.

  • @edeldoe Think it's a litle boy myself but you're right he looks a little disturbed at the sight of this hideous looking hobgoblin trying to sing either that or he's out of his head on acid? lol.

  • funny

  • 0:07-0:57 icp in the begin of there song pass me by

  • This video is an awesome testament for the Glory of God !

  • I don't see the point in packing all of the saved into one massive city. I mean, think of the waste management problems. And with 99% of humanity burning in hell, there is plenty of space for the Christians to spread out. 

  • "Glorified body" at 1:25. Is that what that was?

  • If Heaven is a white american suburb I certainly weant a ticket to the "othere place" Food probably sucks too. Everything is served in mid-west family buffé style restaurant with extra large chairs for fat asses. I like the dwarf though. She can come along.

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  • Free housing? Wow, Communism!

    Btw, did God make that woman a dwarf for kicks?

  • @juujuuuujj

    actually socialism happened in the bible

    Acts 2: 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.

  • @Dudeamis ahaaaaaaa ooh no god's a communist..

  • I feel bad for the sweet little person lady

  • Heaven looks fucking awful!

  • @jimbob224: There's the 60's for you... People didn't know; and probably still don't know what Heaven looks like. I can't wait to go there to see... :)

  • secret jesus - watch video at jagball22

  • this reminds me of reverend jack cheese.

  • I guess no black people go to heaven. Sucks for me...

  • shoot that bitch

  • Let me tell you my pastor was not wacked out. Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

    Be embarresed if you want....Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

  • @smiley2uall

    Whatever it takes to get thousands of people to watch. If I said what you said in preface of this video, I would be lucky to get two people to watch it. I believe God would laugh heartily after watching this video, do you think he takes all of this seriously? How do you explain midgets? C'mon, lighten up!

  • @shroomangel

    I think you could have found a better heading than to mock God's man to get people to read.

    Psalms 105:15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

    As for MS. Evelyn I can't tell you why some people are born that way other than because of the fall of man and the curse which it brought.

    What she is singing about is that one day when she meets the LORD she will have a glorified body.

  • @smiley2uall Why can't believers come up with anything original? I can read any book and repeat the contents and make myself appear very smart. You guys have been sounding like broken records for ages no wonder so few want to open their minds to Christianity. I really don't believe Jesus would have us living backwards in time but rather be a progressive. He was extremely progressive, but you all continue to live in the 50's. I'm not Catholic but Frances DiAssisi was the last true original.

  • @shroomangel

    Someting new? The story never changes. God changes not (Malachi 3:6)

    In no way was he trying to impress anyone of himself. The film was to help people visualize what the Bible says. In fact he notes that in no way could it even compare to the least of what God has prepared. Jesus never changed Hebrews 13:8 He's the same yesterday and today and forever. Doesn't sound like much progression does it? MATTHEW 7:14 states thay few will. We are living in today and know Jesus is coming

  • @smiley2uall The only constant in the universe is change. By the way, God does adjust himself, that's why we went through dispensations. You should just accept that you are simple, a country boy probably, and stick with those good old fashioned religious indoctrinations that people like your pastor were famous for. Jesus not progressive? How do you explain his self education during his years in Egypt? You have blinders on, but I accept that. I accept that all you want is baby food.

  • @shroomangel The only thing you are right about is I am a simple country boy and I will stick with what I was taught. It is obvious you now something about religion but nothing about God. The reason He was in Egypt Joseph was warned of God to be til the death of Herod Mtt 2:13-15. Not for the sake of education. Jesus 100% man and 100 % God. John 1:3 Before grace I once was blind but now I see. You are the blind one. Eph 4:18 Don't do baby food. Matt4:4 Job 23:12 Psalm119:103 Jer 15:16 Ezek2:8

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    Heraclitus

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  • @smiley2uall God doesn't change? then you simply MUST read your bible... in the first half he is a jealous war mongering tyrant... by the second half he is all sunshine and rainbows (except for the part where he commits suicide)

  • @chyrd I do read my Bible. Maybe you should Malachi 3:6. Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

    Jesus laid down His life to keep you and me and the rest of the world out of hell. For your info Christ was slain from the foundation of the world. Mock if you want, reject Him and like the rich man in Luke 16 in hell you'll lift up your eyes being in torments. As for me I accepted His redeeming grace and recieved the free pardon of sin

  • @smiley2uall Oh so you aren't going to admit that god does change? As for Christ being slain for YOUR sins... don't you find that to be a little bit immoral? Do you think would have been a good person if you were at the crucifixion and didn't try to stop the execution of an innocent? Don't you also find it strange that if you don't take part in this execution that you are condemned to eternal damnation? Some god... doesn't bear worshipping.

  • @chyrd Why would i admit to a lie? Christ was slain for your sins too. Immoral? No He died because of His great love to save sinners. Jesus was going to die no matter what. In fact you and I did take part in it Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. Also see Hebrews 12:2-3. John 3:18; Romans 5:12,18 He alone is worthy of worship.

  • @smiley2uall I don't need to chapter and verse... I know the story... you have not answered ANY of my questions to you... try this... Your mother kills someone... do you step in and take her punishment? Would we allow you too? NO... because that's immoral! just so we are straight on this... Jesus committed suicide to forgive your ORIGINAL sin... one that YOU didn't even commit!!! Again I ask you... does the Aborigine NOT get to go to heaven? If not... your god isn't worth worshiping!!!

  • @smiley2uall So what about those that never heard of Christ? Believe it or not there are many who haven't. Are they doomed to hell? Your religion is silly... The ONLY reason you are a christian is strictly based on where you were born and who your parents were. If you were born in Palestine you'd be muslim, if you were born in India, you could be hindi, if you were born in ancient Greece you would worship Zeus. ALL religions die... so will yours.

  • @chyrd Romans1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: It is within the heart of man to worship, everybody worships something weather they relize it or not. Yes all those who reject God are going to hell. That's why missionaries carry the gospel. The only way anybody can be a christian is to accept Christ as Saviour.Christianity is forever

  • @smiley2uall using the bible to prove the bible true is circular reasoning... and about the dumbest way to go about proving something!

  • @chyrd I'm not trying to prove anything. It's not my place nor any christian's to "prove it".

    Our sumons is to give every man an aswer of the hope that is in us.(1 Peter 3:15)

    In John 16:7-11 Jesus said He would send the Comforter who is the Holy Spirit and that in v8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: the word reprove means to convict and/or convince. God does the work in a persons heart all I do is sow seeds. cont.

  • @chyrd Romans 10:16-17 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. I understand not everyone accepts Christ as Saviour. Matthew 7:13-14 states that. 2 Peter 3:9 God dosen't want anybody to perish. 1 Timothy 2:4 He wants all to come to the knowledge of truth. Matthew 25:41 hell was prepared for the devil and his angels, not man. When God calls man makes a choice...cont

  • @chyrd Jesus said in John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. So when he calls we make a choice yes on no to Him. Proverbs 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy. We are not promised tomorrow..Proverbs 27:1  Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth. Every breath we draw is a gift from God.

  • @smiley2uall and again I will say... using the bible to prove the bible is hogwash... and also... I've read the book several times in several versions.... do you even know the historicity of those verses? Probably NOT... and why not answer my questions? You are avoiding the questions.... that's a little dishonest isn't it? I think there is a commandment about that... (although if you really read it right... it's NOT a commandment, bet you didn't know that either)

  • @chyrd I have read it thru and continue to do so on a near daily basis. Obviously you have not read the last 4 replies. I have answered your questions..You choose not to accept the answers...I do know the history of the Bible...since you mention hogwash let me give you this..Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. I am being completely honest about it. Just get saved ok

  • @smiley2uall and YOU haven't read anything I've said... using the bible to show the bible is true is circular reasoning... and HOGWASH... What did you answer? God is clearly bi-polar... but you don't want to admit that... you also don't want to admit that you are the religion you are simply based on geography and time... All you want to do is spew some nonsense that has NOTHING to do with what we are talking about... Nice trick... but I won't fall for it

  • @chyrd Sounds like somebody is getting mad...as I told you I'm not out to prove anything...just give you a answer of the hope that is within me...The Bible IS the best possible answer... Sorry you can't handle the truth....I don't have relgion I have Jesus. What your trouble is you have delt with people who claim to be religous but dosen't know Jesus Christ as their saviour. 2 Corinthians 5:17 says we will be new creatures...When I got saved...God changed my life...No tricks..just truth...

  • @smiley2uall Mad? Not in the least... people like you amuse me... they talk around the questions and pretend they actually answered them... and I just LOVE... how your defense is... "one day you will have to answer to MY God" Arrogant and ignorant... don't you think? Oh that's right... you don't think... if you did... you would have answered my questions honestly... Y would you say the bible holds the answer... have you read the quran, the bhagavad ghita, the veda's... doubt it...

  • @chyrd Well I'm glad you are not getting mad had me concerned a bit. I've not talked around any question. In what sense of arrogant are you referring? Proud,contemptuous,haughty overbearing or presumptuous as for as ignorant that seems to fit you. I think as a matter of fact like Paul said in Acts 26:2 I just think myself happy I say the Bible holds the truth because it is truth .Think about how long it's been around. Tyrants have trird to destroy it, burn it etc. but guess what it is still here

  • @smiley2uall arrogant as in thinking that if god is real... that YOU have the only way to receive his salvation... that's pretty funny considering there are 38,000 different sects of Christianity alone... as for it being around for a long time... the Jews got you beat my friend... you love making arguments from ignorance don't you?

  • @chyrd I don't think I have the only way. Jesus is the only way. It's through the blood of Christ that was sheed on calvary. I never said that christianity was before the Jews. Jesus was a Jew. John1:10-11He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. Roman10:12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. The ignorance you have covered.

  • @smiley2uall I am saved... from religion... all of them... I don't believe in Santa Claus either. My life is my own... it's not entwined in some superstitious mumbo jumbo that can never be proven... and YOU are arrogant to think that YOU have the one true god... but I'm, sure you got that from your bible... (circular reasoning)... and you aren't being honest about where your faith comes from

  • @chyrd Glad you are grown enough not to believe in Santa..James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. Think what you want or say what you will. You are not saved, but just hang in there and one day maybe sooner than you think you'll get to meet God.

  • @smiley2uall YOU saying something is true and not offering proof is an argument from authority... which YOU do not possess... it's also an argument from ignorance, which you possess in droves... and I'm sorry... but the argument that your belief in jesus the savior zombie IS religion... go read a book and expand your horizons...

  • @chyrd by the way I have not read the koran or any other heathen books. I'm not arguing in the least just simply stating what and why I believe. Again I'm not ignorant of the scripture..you can call christianity a religion and consider as people have perverted the king's english the meaning use of the word is so loosely used people use it to refer even now to satanism. I have many books but since I'm walking a straight and narrow I wont look to wide, just ahead because my redemption draweth nigh

  • @smiley2uall which bolsters the fact of your ignorance.,.. you call the other books heathen but have never once read them... how would you know... because the preacher man told ya? LOL

  • @chyrd I know becauseJesus lives in my heart. Becuse He made a change in my life. He gave me peace and joy that you can't understand. He told me of Christ and the gospel, but Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Nobody can force you to believe anything. It's a choice you make in your heart. Do you believe everything you see on T.V. or read in a magazine or in the newspaper. My guess would be no. However if you saw the evidence of it you...continued

  • @chyrd continued...you would come nearer to believe. concerning faith in Christ. Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. I've seen the difference in peoples lives who have Hope.

  • @smiley2uall do you go to a church? Talk to a pastor? have bible study? YOU are in a religion... it isn't a personal relationship... a personal relationship is a 2 way street with give and take and communication between both parties... YOU might as well talk to a cup of tea... Gen 1:1 In the beginning, Elohim created the heaven and earth. (Elohim is the PLURAL of El or Il or GOD) Therefore... the Gods created the heaven and earth. =-)

  • @chyrd I go at least three times a week. talk to many of my preacher brethren. It is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I do communicate with Him through prayer and He speaks through His word by the Spirit of God. Elohim God is a triune God God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost. 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. One God created man after his image Gen 1:26 see Col 2:8-9 and Heb1:3

  • @smiley2uall OH>.. so you go to church... but you aren't religious... keep em coming... you are funnier than a fart in a spacesuit... and once again my man... you can't use the bible to prove the bible is true... tell me this funny guy... without your bible.. tell me would you believe in a god? would it be your god? NOW... with your bible... if you were born in Afghanistan... would you still believe in YOUR god... don't lie... it's a sin

  • @chyrd I didn't say I wasn't religious I said people use the term so loosely it dosen't necessarily refer to christianity anymore. religion means beliefs or our practice. YES I am a practicing christian. Understand the name christian came about as a mockery to christians in Antioch (Acts11:26) Once again I told you it's not my place tp prove anything. Just give an answer of the hope within. Sure it's a sin to lie and you can get forgiveness but so is blaspheming which is without it. continued..

  • @smiley2uall Proverbs 18:2, proverbs 15:2, Proverbs 1:22, and my favorite Proverbs 23:9...

  • @chyrd You certainly fall right into everyone of those categories as well as:

    Proverbs 12:15 , Proverbs 17:24 , Proverbs 26:4-5 , Proverbs 26:10 ,Proverbs 26:12 , Most of all Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Thanks for letting me share with you.

  • @smiley2uall and again... where does it say that fools don't believe in the biblical god??? (insert drumroll) IN THE BIBLE!!!! Woohoo... thanks for playing... Ask yourself this... if god gave you a brain and inquisitiveness... don't you think you should use it?

  • @chyrd Oh I use my my brain, mine just happens not to be misgiuded with the foolishness of this world as yours seems to be.

  • @smiley2uall keep telling yourself that... as your preacher keeps telling you what to believe.

  • @chyrd My pastor doesn't tell me what to to believe. Christianity is faith based. Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

  • @smiley2uall “To Follow by faith alone is to follow blindly.” -Ben Franklin

  • @chyrd 2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

  • @smiley2uall Again... what about those chariots... you like to change the subject an awful lot... and what about those innerancies in the bible???

  • @chyrd Again they are there...Me like to change the subject? You are the one who side steps. What about trying to prove God is not real is like trying to prove there is no air or wind? You clain you can't see God. You can't see air or wind but without air you can't live without wind the clouds wouldn't move or flags wouldn't wave. Without God nothing would exsist. Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. The Bible is without error. regardless of what you think

  • @smiley2uall thanks for proving my point... although you can't see air or wind... you can measure it's affects... you can't do that with god

  • @chyrd Sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Been busty and behind on email...anyway You are once again incorrect. You can see the effect God makes..When you see a drunk become sober and his life changed a drug addict go straight a wife or child abuser change and love their family and work to provide for them and testify that it is only because of the grace of God that rules in their heart.

  • @smiley2uall so in other words... anyone who makes a god claim is proof of god? LOL... that's not testable... nice try though...

  • @chyrd Not just a God claim, the evidence of a changed life because no man on his own would change. Psalms 40:2-4 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings. And he hath put a new song in my mouth, even praise unto our God: many shall see it, and fear, and shall trust in the LORD. Blessed is that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and respecteth not the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies. and 2 Corinthians 5:17

  • @chyrd As far as what I would believe no matter where I lived in the world. If God in mercy spoke to my heart and I repented of my sins and called upon the Lord for salvation, yes . There are christian people living all over the world. I know many missionaries. In other countries people are being shot for their beliefs. In America we have the freedom to choose. Some countries would as they say exterminate you for questioning their beliefs.

  • @smiley2uall in other words... you are not being honest and have NO integrity at all... if you were honest you would see that based on where you live... you might certainly be another religion.. but you won't admit that... just like you won't admit that your god shows a  definitively bi polar, MOSTLY HUMAN, set of feelings throughout the bible. No... we are done... I don't argue with the willfully ignorant... good luck trying to convince people of the bibles authenticity by using it's own words

  • @chyrd I am totaly honest I have much integrity you are so hard hearted you won't accept my answer because it's not what you want to hear..God in His sovereignity knows who will and will not recieve Him. God is just not bipolar. I haven't been arguing however I do hate you are willfully ignorant. My job as a christian is to share not convince, remember I told you that is God the Holy Spirits job, because He is the author. Done? Fine with me.

    Just remember you messaged me first.

  • @smiley2uall No you aren't honest at all... you may think you are... but by your own admission you have stated that you wouldn't read those "heathen" books... and that you would be a christian no matter where you were raised... that is NOT honest... it is also NOT honest to say that god doesn't change when your own bible clearly shows that to be inaccurate. What makes you think I never sought the holy spirit? But I'm sure you are going to tell me I did it wrong.

  • @chyrd You are so wrong. I am completely honest. God in His plan placed me here at this time. I don't expext you to understand that. As I said only because He in mercy reached out to me am I a christian. God does not change, He himself said so in His own Holy Word. I don't know if God has ever drawn you to Himself before now or not. Only if He did would you be seeking Him. I wouldn't say you did it wrong. I would say what happened? Why did you stop? Why didn't you give your life to Him?

  • @smiley2uall God was a bloody tyrant in the Old Testament... and sunshine and kisses in the New Testament... PERIOD.

    As for seeking him... I certainly did... let him into my life... gave my life to him... Jesus was my savior... but then I realized that he really wasn't there...

  • @chyrd Friend let me tell you God is no tyrant. He is just. If you ever really gave your life to Him He would still be there. The thing is you can't come unless He draws. Not because somebody tried to make you. You must be willing. Unless a man knows he is lost he dosen't know he needs to be saved. Jesus said he would never leave us nor forsakee us.(HEb. 13:5reminds us) John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

  • @smiley2uall WRONG... if god tells you that the only way to obtain paradise is to believe in the human sacrifice that was his son... then he is a tyrant... becaus otherwise you burn in hell forever... sorry my friend... you drank the kool aid.

  • @chyrd Nope you are wrong. God made hell for the devil and his demon angels. Not for man. But because of man's sin and rebellion and rejection of God he chooses to go to hell.

  • Do not believe in anything because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is found written in your religious boos. Do not believe in anything on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.

    The Buddha 563-483 bce

  • @chyrd Colossians 2:6-8 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

  • @smiley2uall Here I will keep this simple for you... would you be willing to look at evidence that proves your god isn't real? Then upon seeing that evidence would you give up your faith? You don't need to answer anything but that question.

  • @chyrd contin...This creation could not have come into existence without an intelligent, personal creator any more than the alphabet could produce a book itself without an author. Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith...I will not deny Christ 2Timothy2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:.1 John2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. contin.

  • @smiley2uall this shows a lack of imagination on your part... and certainly NO understanding of modern cosmology... I would look into M-theory, multiverse theory, expansion contraction theory, and string theory. ALSO... look into Higgs Bosun Particles...

  • @chyrd I have great imagination...I understand modernism cosmology or whatever it may be. It's till wrong. Not real big on theories Here is one for you too look at...

    search yahoo for Pharaoh's chariots found in Red Sea and read the world net daily article

  • @smiley2uall Oh you do? then please explain the theories I've mentioned, along with their implications. Oh you aren't "big on theories"? So do you NOT go to a doctor when you are sick? Do you not use electricity in your home? Do you not use a computer? Do you drive? Do you eat food? No... I bet the ONLY theory you aren't big on is Evolution's theory of natural selection. because you are brainwashed to believe it is "only" a theory... Do yourself a solid... and look up the term.

  • @chyrd Incase you don'tknow I did go to school and happened to graduate. Just for the record I learned just a little bit. I may think I know so much about nothing like you do...Evolutionn Let me explain it to you. God spoke and BANG it happened. Computers, doctors, cars,etc. have nothing to do with theories. You are getting desperate aren't you?

  • @smiley2uall Computer Theory, Electromagnetic Theory, Germ Theory, Theory of motion, Physics... don't tell me that theory isn't involved with all those things... look them up... Desperate? No you are clutching at straws that I keep pulling out of you hands

  • @chyrd Oh no you are not pulling anything out of my hands. have you heard of computer science?

  • @smiley2uall why sure I've heard of computer science... I work in the field...

  • @smiley2uall WORLDNET DAILY???? Are YOU kidding me???  The rag that is still spewing on about whether or not Obama is eligible to be president? LOL... No wonder you walk around with blinders on... here's a hint... if you really want to know what's going on in the US... watch foreign news like the BBC... at least they don't have an agenda. I'm betting you are a Beck man too...

  • @chyrd Blinded you certainly are by Satan. 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. As far as the president regradless of whether I like him or not as a christian I'm comanded to pray for him and I do. By the way I asked the church to pray for you last night and we did.

  • @smiley2uall if I don't believe in your god... why would I believe in your devil? BTW... if your god is real... he is certainly MORE evil than the satan he created. Thanks for praying for me... I was thinking for you.

  • @chyrd I will continue to pray for you. God is certaily not evil. The devil is not mine he is the father of the unbelieving. That put you in his family.

  • @smiley2uall a god that will allow you to be tortured forever for simply not believing in him in the right way... is perfectly evil... an all knowing god that still allows a devil to be created... is disgustingly evil

  • @chyrd God dosent want you yo go to hell it's your choosing. God created Lucifer for His glory to serve Him. When Satan rebelled he was cast out of heaven. When he tempted Eve in the garden and she and Adam took of the forbidden fruit the sin curse came upon man. (Genesis 3:6-7;Romans5:12) God is not evil. What causes darkness? The absence of light. Wahat causes cold/ The absence of heat. What causes evil? The absence of God.

  • @smiley2uall Are you implying that god didn't know that satan would rebel?? Is he not omniscient? is he not omnipresent? is he not omnipotent? If he knew that satan would rebel... why create him? if he was there when satan was preparing to rebel... why didn't he stop him? why would a perfect being need ANYONE to glorify him? That's a bit self centered isn't it?

  • @chyrd Not implying that at all. God is omniscient Psalm 139:1-4,147:5, 1 John3:20 and Hebrews 4:13 mentions this. I know you don't care for Bible reference, but that is crutial. god is omnipresent Psalm 139:7-12, Proverbs 15:3. God is omnipotent Revelation 19:6

  • @smiley2uall right... so if god is omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent... then there can be no free will, as god already knows the outcome... and sorry the Adam Eve thing is nonsense since they had NO knowledge of good or evil... and by placing the trees into the garden, and allowing the serpent to tempt them... god KNEW they would fail... so he set them up... ALSO, knowing that Lucifer would fall, and doing nothing to stop it, makes god more evil than the devil. Thanks for playing

  • @chyrd If you told your children not to speed while driving and they did it anyway and got a ticket does that make you evil or unloving because YOU didn't take the keys from them or put a speed sesor on the car to keep it from going to fast?

  • @smiley2uall the difference that you are not getting is... a child who is old enough to drive knows right from wrong... Adam and Eve did NOT know good or evil... Because that knowledge was in the tree... so your analogy FAILS... A better analogy would be your 3 year old was just told by you not to eat the cookie... ten minutes later the 10 year old comes in and tells 3 year old that you said it was ok to eat it now. Would you then punish the 3 year old and it's descendants for all eternity?

  • @chyrd No what you don't get is Adam was told by God not eat of the tree.Thus they did willfully disobey(choice). And futher more supposing that teen driver who knew not to speed (because you told them not to and the law) but did it anyway and couldn't pay the fine, then it is left up to you to pay for their wrong (ticket) so they can drive. Why would you do that? Because you love them. Now consider Christ died for our sins because He loves you.Romans5:8-9, 1John 4:9-10 So that we might live.

  • @smiley2uall and if the teen driver didn't accept my payment of their fine? I should throw boiling oil on them? Just because I pay the fine doesn't remove the responsibility... it also doesn't fall to that teenagers children for time im-memorial.... Also, we already know that your analogy fails miserably, since Adam didn't have the same common sense that a teenager does... NICE TRY!!!

  • @chyrd If that teen driver didn't accept your payment his license would be revoked thus losing his privilege. The simple fact of rejection brings consequences. Adam in fact had a greater sense of reasoning than that of teens after all God did let him name everything. I never said it would remove the responsibility we are all accountable. However if that teen accepted payment and you forgave him and remembered it against him no more you have another picture of God's redeeming grace to forgive us.

  • @smiley2uall Back to the teen driver I see... You keep missing the point... if I pay for the teen driver, that doesn't take away the teens guilt... it's the teen that still did what they did to receive the ticket in the first place. THAT'S the point.

    I'm sorry but you can NOT say that Adam had a greater sense of reasoning, when he had NO idea of what good or evil was, let alone the difference between them... Again... nice try!!!

  • @smiley2uall you are also missing this point. Let's say I pay for the teens ticket. But he doesn't accept that payment. Do I then punish him? What about punishing his children? Are they guilty of the teen drivers crime? What happens when it gets to the point when the teens descendants no longer believe the event happened? Do I still punish them even though they weren't implicit in the speeding ticket?

    You want to make analogies you better be prepared to follow them through

  • @smiley2uall I just re read what you wrote and got hysterical laughing... SO... you think that because Adam was allowed to name the flora and fauna, that he had a better sense of reason? ROFLMAO... OMG that is so funny... you don't even know what he named them... cat could have been brlerflagerb... LOL... it's not like he named them in taxonomic order!!!! LOL... you are hysterical.

  • @chyrd As for Satan Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. in v17 his heart was lifted up because of his beauty and corrupted his wisdom by reason of his brightness. God gave lucifer the freedom of choice just like Adam and Eve had and just like you have. God did not need him to glorify Him.God is Holy certainly not self centered.

  • @smiley2uall Since you like the quotes... try this one on...

    "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?

    Then he is not omnipotent.

    Is he able, but not willing?

    Then he is malevolent.

    Is he both able and willing?

    Then whence cometh evil?

    Is he neither able nor willing?

    Then why call him God?

    -Epicurus

  • @chyrd Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Matthew 15:18-19 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

  • @smiley2uall Circular Reasoning... You never went to college did you?

  • @chyrd Nope not really, when I got out of high school I went to basic training and A.I.T. I got some college hours there. I've got some time in In a Bible Institute. That's the wonderful thing about the gospel it's on a level where a 3rd grader can understand. man's problem is humility willing to bow before the Lordship of Christ.1 Corinthians 1:27-29 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise;..1 Timothy 6:20 ....avoiding.., and oppositions of science falsely

  • @smiley2uall in other words, you have been told what to think for your entire life... you have no critical thinking skills whatsoever... it shows...

  • @chyrd NOPE not at all. I have alot more thinking skills than you do. I don't have to try to insult people when they don't think like I do.I simply answer you and give an answer and a reason that either you don't accept or understand. You make the call. But really according to Matthew 5:11 you are doing me a favor.. so keep it coming

  • @smiley2uall I am sorry if the truth hurts... but I'm certainly not trying to insult you... but don't for one minute think that you have better thinking skills than I do... you just got through telling me that you went from HS, to the military, to bible college, which you didn't finish... you have been told what to think every step of the way... did your bible college include critical thinking courses? Humanities?

    Check out the CNN article called Americans' religious IQ lacking

  • @smiley2uall as for the chariots... you might want to read the entire article and not just the headlines... that's where you fail. I know you have a problem with people telling you what to think... but if you do a little more digging you might actually learn something... so here is a gift. google the chariots... and read other articles... Truth or fiction is a good one.

  • @chyrd HAve read about it many times. Learned mush. I don't have the least problem telling people what I think or what the Bible says. that is what I've been telling you. I think you just need to get saved.

  • @smiley2uall and I think you just need to read a text book.

  • @chyrd I have read many text books.

  • @smiley2uall You read text books? doubtful.

  • @chyrd Doubt all you want.

  • @smiley2uall The bottom line is that at this point all that seems to exist to support the claims of chariot parts on the bottom of the red sea are pictures, most of which are of coral formations. No documented artifacts have been retrieved and preserved from the site and now the Egyptian government prohibits bringing any findings to the surface to the questions may remain for a long time to come. (truth or fiction . com)

  • @chyrd Isn't you people who says a picture is worth a thousand words? You expext me to believe things scientist say they have discovered but have no physical proof.

    You've been told you have a brain, but do you see it? I think not HHMMM one could questin is it there.

  • @smiley2uall LOL... you are funny... I don't expect you to believe the scientists... but they don't say anything without empirical evidence... Please name something they have NO evidence for... Yeah... go for the ad hominem... and question whether I have a brain... I'm sure I do... I'm sure you do as well... the diffence is... I don't take what someone tells me as fact until I actually do some research myself.

  • @chyrd #1 they can't prove evolution for starters. God has proven himself over and over in my life.

  • @smiley2uall LOL... they can't prove evolution? You don't know the slightest bit about it do you? Evolution is a proven fact my friend... God is heresay