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  • I just learned that If you poke the tag end of the rope through the backside of the loop instead of sticking it through the front side of the loop it becomes a proper bowline instead of improper bowline and its actually a little bit faster because you don't need to clinch the tag end of the rope to finish, but I like them both. I am so glad you showed the faster way, thanks.

  • If you come in with the tag end through the back of the hole instead of the front it is even faster, for me. Also sense I am right handed I like to bring the rope around the object in the other direction so I am doing the double circles with my right hand instead of my left.

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  • This method of tying is commonly called the "snap bowline". Best. Knot. Ever.

  • in my opinion it's not correct: the running end is outside the loop, much better on the inside

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  • That's not a bowline, but close. Analyze the final knot, an then analyze a correct diagram (e.g., ABOK #1010).

  • @iq201 It's a bowline. It's just an ouside, or "improper" bowline. Usually, they are tied with the tail on the inside of the loop, but there are times you want that tail on the outside. I understand the outside, or "improper" bowline, is actually slightly stronger than the traditional inside bowline!

  • @ercampbell You are correct. I learned that awhile ago.

  • By wrong side (previous reply), I mean outside rather than inside.

    I have to say, though, that your way of tying the knot is so much cooler (and faster) than the way I learned it.

    So thanks for taking the time to show us.

  • Yeah, I have to go with willardthegrey.

    The running end ends up on the wrong side of the big loop. This should make for a weaker/worse knot, although not as bad as a wrong reef/square knot.

    When you've made your small loop, and you make your another small look that goes through it, run the running end through from the other side, et voila.

  • The only issue I can see with this method is the working end winds up on the outside of the bight where it can get snagged and capsize the bowline. Simple fix just pull the working end down through the slipped over-hand instead of pushing it up through it, if that makes any sense.

    Thanks for the video I learned something new today, thank you.

  • slicker than snot

  • The steps are 1) form a loose slip knot with a long tail. 2) wrap the tail around whatever you wish to secure in a loop. 3) poke the tail though the slipknot loop. 4) pull the slipknot out. this will draw the tail end into a figure-8 and form a bowline. Don't worry its a real bowline, without rabbits and trees and holes. If you need a cute little poem, here you go.

    "The tree twisted in the wind and jumped through itself. Then the rabbit jumped through the tree before it tried to run away"

  • The nice thing about using the slip-knot method is it translates to left handed people easily. I use this to teach teach tenderfoot scouts.

    The sheet-bend method of tying a bowline is even faster.

  • that is an equalizing bowline

  • @badazbrad correct. It is in the fireman's rigging manual. It is used for making a basket around a bucket. It also is called a left or an outside bowline. I've tested both against each other and the rope broke first.

  • Okay sweet as, will do it the normal way when safty is involved. This is still sweet for a normal use though.

    Thanks

  • Isnt it? i always thought it was. What is it called/is it a safe knot?

  • thats how i learned

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