Rest in peace, Dick Kniss (1937-2012). Bass players from all walks mourn you. You taught us that it's not just talent and skill; one must also put one's conscience into the music. God give you the eternal peace that you championed.
Wow -- Mary Travers is the freak'in "mom" mtRNA|DNA to Gisel Bündchen, among the recent decade's mega-top-dollar-paid fashions models ever...whereas, many contemporaneous critics et al narrow thinkers, discounted Mary's "strong looks" as, at best, a cruder version of the "Julie Christie school of peroxide-locks"; whereas, in retrospect--at least for newer generations--review of the ubber-graphical stagings, w/high-key lighting, proves my salient point. Not my type, but lookers all the same!
People, for God's sake, stop looking only at the '60's as some idyll. The times need to be changing right now! The Industrial-Miliitary evil that the youth of the '60's challenged was a faint spectre of the evil that has risen among humanity today. The Corporatism that rapes our farmland, abuses the animal creation for blood lusted tongues and makes us into jaded, numb consumers who can't look further than the next updated IPad, numbs us to the Eve of Destruction upon which we sti.
@jeff62rey youre absolutely right! this may have been the anthem of a generation but it needs to be the anthem of THIS generation... or we dont stand a chance. so let's be the change we need to see and make this hope a reality
I guess that I must be one of those "60s failures" that ryelor123 talks about. In my younger days, I heard PP&M in concert many times...I saw their vision, I believed that there was a place in this world for love and caring and respect for our fellow humans. Sorry, though, I haven't died...I have moved on to head a neonatal intensive care unit in one of the poorest communities in LA and have, since PP&M sang this song, cared for more than 30,000 sick newborns. The times they are a changing.
too bad the only thing I can think about when I hear left-wing americans talk is pictures of dead babies and annoying sexists feminists who lack individuality. I love it when i read about these 60s failures dying of drug overdoses. At least they're less harmful dead than alive
@ryelor123 How about a left-right truce? You like potatoe and I like potahto, You like tomatoe and I like tomahto; Potatoe, potahto, tomatoe, tomahto! Bah, you and Quail are too stupid. Let's call the whole thing off!
This might be a Dylan song, but this is the only beautiful rendition. Bob Dylan was very good at writing songs, but his voice was like nails on a chalkboard.
There is no going back these days. Once electricity came around, things finally started changing at a truly rapid rate. Considering how wired we are today, this song will ring true for eternity. The times ARE a-changin'
I flew combat over the, 'unfriendly' skies of Nam in my F-4 Phantom in those days, listening to the music that kept all our hopes alive ....... Never forget those who gave their all in a battle that,could have been won' !!!! by those of us who fought it to the bitter end !!!!
they sang this in the year i was born ... i loved it when i grew up and am thinking of it now that my kids are grown ... thank you so much, bobby, thank you ppm !!!
'Progress is the injustice each generation commits with regard to its predecessors' - EM Cioran. This is also apropos as concerns music, i.e., this modern 'morass' must by default suffice as such. Political messages/slant any aside, the Peter Paul & Mary sound (because the ears are arbiter, not affiliation) sound better still 45+ years later than anything being foisted today. This is a subjective matter of course... that PPM's music still resounds is validation.
MARY TRAVERS AND SHE HUSBAND WENT TO CANADA TO AVOID THE DRAFT; SHE WENT AS OFTEN AS WE CAN . THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME PEOPLE OR MUSIC HAVE BEEN PERFECT . IN ALL TIMES FAMILIES AND RELATIONSHIPS HAVE BEEN DYSFUNCTIONAL MAKING A GOOD BASIS FOR POETRY, SONGS, STORIES AND MUSIC.
Dylan penned a great tune. Many artists have recorded the song, and some were really were good. But theirs is by far my favorite version. This is not their best rendition of the song. One of their CD's has another live version that will just blow you away. Remember, to these three, the song meant something important. They stood next to Dr. King in DC,on the Mall, in August 1963. Legend has it that Mary held Dr. Kings little baby during his speech. They were there. They walked the walk!
If you weren't a teenager in the early 60s, you can't possibly appreciate the time in our history. JFK negotiated the USA out of a nuclear war, and Vietnam was still a footnote on the news. The whole era spoke to possibilities for the future, and the music reflected it. It was when the Beach Boys ruled, surfing was what you did and you had angst getting up the courage to ask the girl next door out. We were innocent for a moment in time.
@IloveyouLenaKatina why is it you think u can judge people by their looks???? So we have to look a certain way to understand (the( Quote) revolutionary politics of this or any song?? OMG Thumbs down big time!!
Yes, the times are indeed changing, but unfortunately not for the better. Our president (Obama) stiffed the Nobel Prize committee of its Peace Prize, and immediately began new wars on our fragile planet, including Afghanistan, and most recently Libya!!!!
I saw them in concert in Miami. Was 66 or 67, Mary walked out in a blue chiffon dress and my heart stopped. I loved then and will never forget that moment.
i love listening to this song ovr & ovr again...PPM are one of the most gifted artsts of all time for me bec. their songs are unique or hve unique lyrics & melodies...make me float in the air while listening to them!magical indeed!
Now lets get it right yes 60's music was great revolutionary the beatles the stones the searchers ect ect ect but come on the true musicians and vocalist of that era and of th era's before and since have always been the folk singers i definr anybody to tell me of any 3 piece that could harmonies like these and the purity of mary's voice wow if she is the last thing I heat on earth i die a happy man.
@jerkoff1231 Jesus I said that because if i would have said that the beatles ect where guff i would have had people saying they where this that ect the point I made is that these guys are far better !!
I cannot help but feel that history is repeating itself...once again.This song is as valid today as when it was first released...and we've learned nothing from our past mistakes...as the saying goes....if we don't learn we are condemned to repeat.Having said that,good music always bears repeating!!
How extraordinary to come on here to see one of the most beautiful, hopeful songs ever written about humanity, and find such bitter loathing being spat out on the board!!
In 2005, Travers was diagnosed with leukemia. Although a bone marrow transplant apparently slowed the progression of the disease, Travers died on September 16, 2009, at Danbury Hospital in Danbury, Connecticut, from complications arising from chemotherapy.[2] She was 72 years old.
I love 60s music, but I'm sick of the same formulaic and predictable comments on any music video from that era. All whining about how music is terrible these days and how glorious the 60s were. Guess what, the 60s weren't perfect (Vietnam anyone? The Great Leap Forward?) and there was a hell of a lot of trashy music in that age. Yeah, popular music generally sucks these days. But look a little deeper and you'll see that great music is still being made every day.
@KnfRaw The artists didn't start or condone Vietnam. I've a vietnam vet. The music painted an alternative. WE chose poorly. More wars, more death, more middle class suffocation. Does today's music rage against that? Hell no. It poses and pimps for the corporate masters. Sure, the sixties were deeply flawed, but I'd sure as hell take 'em over the crap we have going on today. Thanks for playing.
@mollyipowers At no point did I say the artists condoned Vietnam. I was just pointing out that the 60s weren't as glorious as they are often claimed to be. And you just described today's mainstream music. You've made the mistake that everyone seems to make by assuming that all modern music is the same as what we see in the Top 40 each week - it isn't.
@KnfRaw I agree, its only through the passage of time that we really appreciate what we have in the present. There are good bands now that will be looked back on in years to come as timeless. Its merely human nature to see the grass a being greener elsewhere. I have bands I like now, but people have to search out songs that have meaning to them, every age has good music it is our job to go forth and search it out.
@syngar99 Hey, that's a really idiotic and counter-progressive view point. Not to mention ageist. You might as well say women are unqualified to talk about academia. It's the same level of prejudice.
For the record, you can be an incredibly experienced octogenarian who's seen the world from one corner to the other and still have a completely retarded opinion.
Likewise, there are insightful pre-teens in the world. Deal with it and get off your elitist high-horse.
@MandibleMuge not idiotic at all except to idiotic kids who have nothing to say except "kids can be insightful"
heres a factoid little kid - insight is worthless without the knowledge and experience to make use of it. anything else is just trite platitudes predicated by the weak minded.
@syngar99 You fail to realize that with experience comes prejudice. The more you know about something, the more biases you have. A fresh outlook is always good. And I'm afraid that your understanding of Insight is totally off. You don't need vast amounts of knowledge to make an original observation on something. A decent knowledge base is more than enough. And for the record, I'm not saying "kids can be insightful" - I'm saying anyone can be.
@MandibleMuge lol! get off of it kid. A fresh insight is always good? what is "good" exactly? Thats hollywood romanticism.
You say a "decent" knowledge base and I say kids rarely have even that knowledge base. secondly, i am afraid you don't understand, comprehend, appreciate or realize what experience brings to the table.
@syngar99 I'm afraid you don't comprehend what experience brings to the table. Ever hear the phrase "It's hard to fill a cup that's already full"? Rejecting someone's opinion just because they see things from a different angle than you is ignorant, nothing else to it.
@syngar99 Hehe, okay this has gotten ridiculous. If your only response is "NO U" then there's no point continuing. Enjoy seeing the world one-dimensionally for the rest of your life.
@syngar99 Eh. I'm just astonished that you think music is something you have to qualify in to have an opinion on. Sure, some people will have baseless arguments but does that mean you can just say "This generation or gtfo", especially given the particular subject matter of this song?
@MandibleMuge i dont recall ever saying anything like "this generation of gtfo" and im not being snide when i say that. when it comes to age however, its pretty fair to say "someone who is so and so age probably does not X"
@syngar99 WOW what an arrogant dick hahahahaha. WHO died and elected you Plato because, bad news, you're doing it wrong. This whole argument just reeks of "mid-life crisis." I hope I never get so bitter about getting older that I find it prudent to belittle others for simply (allegedly) having less knowledge and experience. Insight REQUIRES neither, but is informed by both. I think that's what you meant to say.
@matttv824 matt matt matt silly ass. you want to sound like you have something to say, and you want a decisive rebuttle. but its all hot air out of you kiddo. just log off and go finish beating whatever monster is it in warcraft these days. as for reaking, you reak of lonely angry teenager, i wouldnt worry about bitterness, you are already there.
@syngar99 you are really just too much haha, completely exposed and STILL won't actually try to engage in any real, content-based debate. You scared that I might ACTUALLY know a thing or two? Come on, really. What's your beef? If you're so sure of yourself, come on just say something intelligent (you spelled reek wrong btw. I guess maybe you used urbandictionary?) Well as long as I know you're just a coward and not actually trying to teach anyone anything... Peace, I've got mine thanks.
@matttv824 really? you live ina magical world where you do nothing but make strawman attacks and then ironically accuse me of them, and then play the 14 yr old girl make a snide comment and then runaway tact? good riddance. what should i learn exactly? how to argue on 4chan? no thanks.
@syngar99 uh oh someone's getting mad... Still haven't read a concrete, pseudo-intellectual thing to reply to and take a position on. Ad hominem requires that I at least have an established position... for future reference. Bro, you have used nothing but strawman on me this whole time. I'm not mad, I admit I've been using them but I live in a magical world where I can only reply with reason to arguments that are based in reason, of which you have provided exactly 0. Sorry boutcha.
@matttv824 lol, mad? it's cool man between you and me, we can both see the more you emote the more vehement you are getting, its okay really! kids have a hard time with their feelings, and evidently they are a bit hypocritical too.
@syngar99 Just keep that see-through train chugging, Plato haha. Well I applaud the effort, kid (minus the redundancy of using emote and vehement in the same sentence...) but really I'm bored. You're obviously never going to engage in anything deeper than verbal sparring, which I confess I do enjoy but only for a time and with a worthy opponent. You have ultimately won, though. I wasted a lot of time hoping you had something backing up those big words. You can have the last word now go ahead.
@matttv824 hey kid (unironically) anytime you want to attempt to talk without the pathetic ad hominems, strawmen and cliched rhetoric go for it, fact is - you are incapable of it.
@syngar99 ah, the taming of the beast. I accept your challenge good sir! Please, show me to be a fool and settle this thing once and for all. I promise to address only your ideas and words and not your person. See? This isn't hard, why did we waste all that time. Kindly state your grievance and your reasoning.
@syngar99 if that was ironic, it was amusingly ironic. you have yet to learn my age, yet you continue to refer to me as a teenager. Not mad (like I said maturity and age aren't necessarily the same), merely pointing out the irony.
If that, however, WAS your grievance, I will ignore that you provided no reason and simply reply that I am very sorry that I have offended you. Also: "do unto others," etc. etc. This was a disappointing discussion, but I suppose you win again for luring me back Cheers!
@KnfRaw, while I completely agree with everything you said .. this something in ... that which comes first is always the best .. though I dont think I would give up Radio Head for PPM. This song its so correct, and completely current ... Its almost a "shame on you" to the baby boomers .. where the hell are they, while they have run our country into the ground .. and I would love to put this song in every one of their homes .. to remind them of what was .. and what they were supposed to make true
@syngar99 I'm talking about both. People glorify and overstate the music of the 60s and the period of time itself. I think that's more than clear in my comment.
but also i disagree that people glorify the period, and frankly in many ways the music was glorious, I wasnt alive back then myself, but as i gained (here it comes ) experience I realize how good it was.
as for the eras, while the 60s were rife with social issues, there are many days id take those problems over the shitpile we live in now.
1966 was the year I married my wife who died just this feb 28. hearing this song reminds of her and the good times we had then. Not so these last few years when she was sick.
@macseemusthe3rd Life sure has its problems, loosing people you love surrending youth and then starting the road down to old mans town but you have your memories, thats of course if you dont end up with oltimers. I miss my youth, I had the best fun, and yes its true, the times are a changeing.
I was there in the 60s. Yeah the music was great but people seem to have selective memory. We had racial tensions, Boys could expect to be sent at 18 to Viet Nam, an unpopular war that you could never see an end to. Riots, cities burning, tear gas in the streets. Liberals agains conservatives, young against old. This country went through hell. I hope we never see that here again.
@novusmysticus I was there too, so, what has changed, we are here again, and this time there may be no way back, different landscape, different weapons, different wars, still no leadership, still government incompetence, still corruption, still a little good music hidden in the noise, I'll not live long enough to see where we go from here, but the chances are not good...
If you listen to any of their songs from that time period, you will find the conviction you speak of and a true reflection of the times. What they sang about then is true today, it is timeless, which makes it a thing of beauty.
What impressed me most about this was the conviction with which this song was sung, was it because of the era or have we lost something they had? A lot can be changed with conviction.
What happened to popular music in this country? At least the folk songs of the 60's had melody and intelligible words. We've gone a long way - - - - down.
It's so great that y7oung people are hearing this music! For me and the kids I lived with, PP&M were not just entertainers, they were heroes..flames burning in the night to show us that the people around us were vastly more valuable than the cash in our bank accounts, that an injustice to the weakest among us was truly an injustice to us all.
Listen to the music, pick up the hammer, DREAM, change the world..there is still so much to done!
the battle is still raging. I heard both Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy speak less than a year before they were both murdered. Why is it that the right wing racists are not the ones shot? This song is as relevant today as it was in 1963, maybe more so.
I was born in 1985, but I will say this. THIS is music. Not like today's music. I enjoy this more than 99% of what is out today. As I like to say music slowly started to die in the 80s and 90s. 60s and 70s will always be GREAT music to me. even some 50s are good.
@bohsgerry Puff the Magic Dragon and The Wedding Song. I seen them in concert three times, and they done their own songs. Most of their commercial hits were other writers songs
@bohsgerry They were not exactly a 'band.' They wrote a bunch of their own songs. They preformed a lot of songs written by other people. They reworked and retooled a lot of older (some quite obscure) folk tunes. PP&M were a very polished group.
@Rabastu5 Dylan wrote this in 1963 right before JFK was assassinated. Then Dylan performed & recorded this first. PP&M performed several of his tunes as did many groups.
Ummm, not to be superficial, and it could well be that it's when I came of age, BUT the ladies of that time and place seem much more attractive to me...fortunately even though they and I have all grown older, I continue to adore women from that era...
@dumboldon MEn have their little check points about a woman's style & figure. (The 2 are not necessisarily the same). One part of a woman's body you can check out without her thinking he's checking me out. If you see a good looking lady check out the profile of her ears. It pains me to say it but Sarah Palin has great looking ears & the rest of her follows her ears. This is NOT a poitical endorsement.
This is about music, not your objectification of human beings. Take it somewhere else please so I can read the comments of people who appreciate this without having to weed through the bs some of you are posting. The song is about the way things change and here you people are talking about women like this is the 18th century. Wake up.
@matttv824 The suject of popular music is usually about guess what: WOMEN. If you cannot understand that fact then what good are you talking about women in general & their looks in particular. My wife was beautiful when we got married; we are now pushing 70 but she is still is beautiful to me. Songs about women tell a whole lot about why we live & die and that is sex. There's other types of things that are beautiful and should be sung about. First they must be talked about.
@aellarex maybe you think you are telling me something I don't know? There is a difference between sexualizing and objectifying that I don't think you recognize. Only one is done out of love and I'm sure you know which one I am talking about. There's no need to be condescending especially when the point you are talking down to is a point entirely different from the one I was making. To quote one of your generation: "Please get out of the new one if you can't lend your hand"
@matttv824 Last time I checked music almost all contains statements about the opposite sex. Yes sex & bodies. Music would be boring in the extreme if it didn't tell thoughts about the opposite sex. Sex sells; it's also nice to listen to music about the other half.
@matttv824 this is about whatever the hell we want it to be. but what its not is an invitation for idiots like you to make tired pseudo progressive rants.
@syngar99 HAHAHAHAHAHA why you mad though? I'll admit is was a skillfully executed cop out, but it still reeks of cowardice. You'd make a great Congress person though! You've been out gunned so you resort to claiming "that's never what it was about in the first place." I wasn't the one who started that debate and I'm sorry you have nothing better to do than go through 14 pages of comments to find something to make a tepid statement about haha. Better luck next time :)
@matttv824 Lol! Speaking of copouts, the best response you can give is a reworded version of "umadbro"?
I will reiterate- it is NOT YOU who decides what the song is about or why it was posted. So run along junior and go try your teenage tactics on the warcraft forums.
@syngar99 Umadbro? First of all, you are wrong, it IS me that gets to decide, as a sentient, English-speaking musician and a free thinking human being, every single one of us has the right to decide what a song is about.
Second of all, what the hell are you talking about? I never tried to claim the song was about anything hahahahahaha show me where I told someone what this song was about. Go on, I'm waiting.
@matttv824 Oh no you misunderstand me kiddo. you can believe a song is about anything you want, but you are a pretentious little smug shit lecturing otehrs about what the song is about and whether or not they should be allowed to talk about it in the way they want' I know that teenagers are slow learners, but please take five seconds and think before typing. " The song is about the way things change" ps there is your example.
@syngar99 The song is about the way things change lmao. You are just full of hot air aren't you. You're going to pick the most obviously correct thing I said about the song and use it against me? (Revist Congress-member thread) I'm not a teenager but I'm wise enough to know that age has little to do with maturity and someone who spends their time arguing with someone they believe to be a child is probably a fool looking for a mojo boost. You're in over your head buddy
@matttv824 oh and if I was lecturing on anything it was on objectification and the commodification of women, not the meaning of the song (which I'm sure I am much more qualified to present an opinion on than yourself, not that it matters) I do not and will not apologize for advocating respect for other people.
@matttv824 the only LMAO here is how you have the audacity and the irony to belittle someone ELSE for an ego boost by arguing online. if by "over my head" you mean not as full of shit as you are, then you are correct.
butill wager you will continue to attempt to have the last word, a true sign of maturity.
@syngar99 My good & forever friend, you came to me, not the other way around. Please remember who it was that, again, found it necessary to sift through 14 PAGES of comments to find something to say. As long as you keep making witless jabs at the character of someone you know nothing about, I will continue to respond. Sorry I don't take your "wager" very seriously as a) this is the internet and b) you apparently desire the last word so much that you want to scare me out of replying. THAT'S lolzy
@matttv824 lolzy, umadbro.. you sound more and more like a 16 yr old.
for the record sparky, i didnt sift through anything, HOWEVER as we both know you lack any sort of debating ability and instead try to shame and embarrass your opponent with insults like "sifting" I don;t know why i should bother explaining that my comments are sorted by votes and for some ungodly reason you had more than zero so i saw it with little effort.
And again i laugh at your ironic "scare me out of replying" comment.
@syngar99 ah yes, "I sound like..." Again, a strawman to distract from your lack of anything meaningful to add to...well nothing. Unfortunately, the language I use does not ACTUALLY inform you either on my intelligence or my age. *Whispers* this is the internet... There is real irony here though, I admit you right there: you have repeatedly resorted the the same tactics that you accuse me of using ^.^ If you call this a debate, I'm led to believe you vote Republican. What are we debating?
I have to disagree that all women in the 60s were as people called "conventionally attractive" or hot. The ones who fit the pre-existing priorities of female attractiveness were just the ones being photographed...in America anyway.
I'm thinking about the people of Egypt tonight 2/10/11
The courage and determination and disciple of the young people.
Refusing to be victims anymore and leadership thrush on them.
So the demo at the State TV Station and Nazir with his bomb
Nazir stop but he screams that nobody knows.They cooperated in the destruction of my father. Nazir, brother, they are are with us now, will you head the delegation to take the station?
It's common to cover another songwriter. They love it cause they make more money. In 1966, long before riots, pot and Vietnam had come to the forefront of most of America, folk singers were still a respected part of the musical landscape. A little oddball perhaps, but OK just the same. Note the way they are dressed. Same with all the groups EXCEPT, of course, Brother Bob. He made Greenwich Village a tour-bus stop and scared the shit out of parents (at least those who listened to the words).
Rest in peace, Dick Kniss (1937-2012). Bass players from all walks mourn you. You taught us that it's not just talent and skill; one must also put one's conscience into the music. God give you the eternal peace that you championed.
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Don't Criticize what you can't understand. Words from pure geniuses.
mrfreeburn 1 day ago
it's good... and then comes :30 and it just gives me chills how amazing they are.
roquesand 2 weeks ago
whats up with the camp wave at 0.16
INTHEJUNGLE123 2 weeks ago in playlist Peter Paul and Mary
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Wow -- Mary Travers is the freak'in "mom" mtRNA|DNA to Gisel Bündchen, among the recent decade's mega-top-dollar-paid fashions models ever...whereas, many contemporaneous critics et al narrow thinkers, discounted Mary's "strong looks" as, at best, a cruder version of the "Julie Christie school of peroxide-locks"; whereas, in retrospect--at least for newer generations--review of the ubber-graphical stagings, w/high-key lighting, proves my salient point. Not my type, but lookers all the same!
CarCriticAssessor 3 weeks ago
notice how the comments here are in good english? ---SIGH---
moonbeamchaos 1 month ago
People, for God's sake, stop looking only at the '60's as some idyll. The times need to be changing right now! The Industrial-Miliitary evil that the youth of the '60's challenged was a faint spectre of the evil that has risen among humanity today. The Corporatism that rapes our farmland, abuses the animal creation for blood lusted tongues and makes us into jaded, numb consumers who can't look further than the next updated IPad, numbs us to the Eve of Destruction upon which we sti.
jeff62rey 1 month ago 2
@jeff62rey youre absolutely right! this may have been the anthem of a generation but it needs to be the anthem of THIS generation... or we dont stand a chance. so let's be the change we need to see and make this hope a reality
keithyunggun 2 weeks ago 2
I guess that I must be one of those "60s failures" that ryelor123 talks about. In my younger days, I heard PP&M in concert many times...I saw their vision, I believed that there was a place in this world for love and caring and respect for our fellow humans. Sorry, though, I haven't died...I have moved on to head a neonatal intensive care unit in one of the poorest communities in LA and have, since PP&M sang this song, cared for more than 30,000 sick newborns. The times they are a changing.
tb30486 1 month ago
too bad the only thing I can think about when I hear left-wing americans talk is pictures of dead babies and annoying sexists feminists who lack individuality. I love it when i read about these 60s failures dying of drug overdoses. At least they're less harmful dead than alive
ryelor123 1 month ago
@ryelor123 How about a left-right truce? You like potatoe and I like potahto, You like tomatoe and I like tomahto; Potatoe, potahto, tomatoe, tomahto! Bah, you and Quail are too stupid. Let's call the whole thing off!
TownRootGuy 1 month ago
This might be a Dylan song, but this is the only beautiful rendition. Bob Dylan was very good at writing songs, but his voice was like nails on a chalkboard.
brandondeleo 1 month ago
Brilliant !!!
WayneSA85 1 month ago
Another Dylan song, still topical today!
NoEarthlyDestination 1 month ago
There is no going back these days. Once electricity came around, things finally started changing at a truly rapid rate. Considering how wired we are today, this song will ring true for eternity. The times ARE a-changin'
Rerem113 2 months ago
I flew combat over the, 'unfriendly' skies of Nam in my F-4 Phantom in those days, listening to the music that kept all our hopes alive ....... Never forget those who gave their all in a battle that,could have been won' !!!! by those of us who fought it to the bitter end !!!!
islandghostwriter 2 months ago
@islandghostwriter Thank you for your service and welcome home brother.
kb0jyl1 2 months ago
Mary Travers was so beautiful
badjemima 2 months ago 4
they sang this in the year i was born ... i loved it when i grew up and am thinking of it now that my kids are grown ... thank you so much, bobby, thank you ppm !!!
dieKalthaushummel 2 months ago
'Progress is the injustice each generation commits with regard to its predecessors' - EM Cioran. This is also apropos as concerns music, i.e., this modern 'morass' must by default suffice as such. Political messages/slant any aside, the Peter Paul & Mary sound (because the ears are arbiter, not affiliation) sound better still 45+ years later than anything being foisted today. This is a subjective matter of course... that PPM's music still resounds is validation.
theprizoner 2 months ago
@TheDonnyDude It didn't change enough. But it's still changing.
khdetw 3 months ago
It took 30 years for me to discover music as timeless as this. Love it!
DEAN4500 3 months ago 2
MARY TRAVERS AND SHE HUSBAND WENT TO CANADA TO AVOID THE DRAFT; SHE WENT AS OFTEN AS WE CAN . THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A TIME PEOPLE OR MUSIC HAVE BEEN PERFECT . IN ALL TIMES FAMILIES AND RELATIONSHIPS HAVE BEEN DYSFUNCTIONAL MAKING A GOOD BASIS FOR POETRY, SONGS, STORIES AND MUSIC.
visionbear 3 months ago
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I sure those two fuck her
masterlee123 3 months ago
If you love Justin Bieber
masterlee123 3 months ago
Dylan penned a great tune. Many artists have recorded the song, and some were really were good. But theirs is by far my favorite version. This is not their best rendition of the song. One of their CD's has another live version that will just blow you away. Remember, to these three, the song meant something important. They stood next to Dr. King in DC,on the Mall, in August 1963. Legend has it that Mary held Dr. Kings little baby during his speech. They were there. They walked the walk!
tucsonagent 3 months ago 3
If you weren't a teenager in the early 60s, you can't possibly appreciate the time in our history. JFK negotiated the USA out of a nuclear war, and Vietnam was still a footnote on the news. The whole era spoke to possibilities for the future, and the music reflected it. It was when the Beach Boys ruled, surfing was what you did and you had angst getting up the courage to ask the girl next door out. We were innocent for a moment in time.
tvviewer46 4 months ago 8
2:00 to 2:37 is the best. i wish i could find a version where they sung the whole song like that!
pegmanbackwards 4 months ago
Some concept, some concept: it's in the song. Was it there originally? If you aren't solving the problem; you're part of the problem.
krkraz 4 months ago
dang whered u get these videos good jobbbbbb
jrmelmer 4 months ago
discovered that song tusday by watching the episode of Sons Of Anarchy, but no offense to anyone, i prefer the spanish version =)
MisterSrm 4 months ago
Was they way Mary was convulsing at the beginning of this video considered to be 'dancing' in the 1960s?
blogegog 4 months ago
@blogegog wow.... Hater.... Sad!
cinnamonlou 4 months ago
@cinnamonlou Dang, you totally caught me. I do indeed dislike hippies with much intensity.
blogegog 4 months ago
Is it me? Or do the audience members look completely unlike the type who would understand the revolutionary politics this song represents?!
IloveyouLenaKatina 4 months ago
@IloveyouLenaKatina why is it you think u can judge people by their looks???? So we have to look a certain way to understand (the( Quote) revolutionary politics of this or any song?? OMG Thumbs down big time!!
cinnamonlou 4 months ago
@IloveyouLenaKatina PS, Yeah its YOU!
cinnamonlou 4 months ago
Yes, the times are indeed changing, but unfortunately not for the better. Our president (Obama) stiffed the Nobel Prize committee of its Peace Prize, and immediately began new wars on our fragile planet, including Afghanistan, and most recently Libya!!!!
wolfgangpmay 4 months ago
@wolfgangpmay no war war in afghanistahn has been going on 4 several years.
bandued 4 months ago
Wtf does this have to do with the transform ultra??
walrus1 4 months ago
No notice!.... Bong alert
Epic125e 4 months ago
wtf? WTF!!
Epic125e 4 months ago
Engadget sent me here XD
yearofthe 4 months ago
Sleep well, beautiful Mary. We all really miss you. I too listen to this song over and over.
tucsonagent 4 months ago
I saw them in concert in Miami. Was 66 or 67, Mary walked out in a blue chiffon dress and my heart stopped. I loved then and will never forget that moment.
SPOILEDFSU 4 months ago
i love listening to this song ovr & ovr again...PPM are one of the most gifted artsts of all time for me bec. their songs are unique or hve unique lyrics & melodies...make me float in the air while listening to them!magical indeed!
chestean 5 months ago
did this band actually write songs or just cover dylans?
JoshRobertson142 5 months ago
wow CHRIS HOLLY plays Dylan Classic for MICHELE BACHMANN at Town Hall Meeting in SC a Must see on youtube
musicmoney21 5 months ago
Who's the guy on the bass? It's more like Peter Paul Mary and Chopped Liver.
canon21100 5 months ago
@canon21100 fucking moron
earthmuse1 4 months ago
being an 18 year old about to start freshman year at college, this is the best song ever to me...
muggleborn001 5 months ago
This video was just added to a music playlist at JustPlay.fm
justplayfm 5 months ago
Please excuse some of my spelling as i maybe slightly drunked my my words they are from the heart not the arse !!
johnygail 5 months ago
Now lets get it right yes 60's music was great revolutionary the beatles the stones the searchers ect ect ect but come on the true musicians and vocalist of that era and of th era's before and since have always been the folk singers i definr anybody to tell me of any 3 piece that could harmonies like these and the purity of mary's voice wow if she is the last thing I heat on earth i die a happy man.
johnygail 5 months ago
@johnygail cant believe you mentioned the beatles and great revolutionary in the same sentance....
jerkoff1231 5 months ago
@jerkoff1231 Jesus I said that because if i would have said that the beatles ect where guff i would have had people saying they where this that ect the point I made is that these guys are far better !!
johnygail 5 months ago
you should have gone to specsavers my friend
MyAlbert47 5 months ago
I cannot help but feel that history is repeating itself...once again.This song is as valid today as when it was first released...and we've learned nothing from our past mistakes...as the saying goes....if we don't learn we are condemned to repeat.Having said that,good music always bears repeating!!
fionamary56 5 months ago 2
Thanks!
Fred50099 5 months ago
Shine on forever, Mary
debiedog1 6 months ago
I'm not sure if it's the perspective or something, but the female singer looks like a guy.
CuckooNow 6 months ago
How extraordinary to come on here to see one of the most beautiful, hopeful songs ever written about humanity, and find such bitter loathing being spat out on the board!!
CuddlyGayBear 6 months ago 15
In 2005, Travers was diagnosed with leukemia. Although a bone marrow transplant apparently slowed the progression of the disease, Travers died on September 16, 2009, at Danbury Hospital in Danbury, Connecticut, from complications arising from chemotherapy.[2] She was 72 years old.
evsynator 6 months ago
God if people would have listened. sorry everyone
jay94271 6 months ago 3
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NotTheLaw 6 months ago
Dont worry my friend for The times they are a changing :)
pil2L 7 months ago
I love 60s music, but I'm sick of the same formulaic and predictable comments on any music video from that era. All whining about how music is terrible these days and how glorious the 60s were. Guess what, the 60s weren't perfect (Vietnam anyone? The Great Leap Forward?) and there was a hell of a lot of trashy music in that age. Yeah, popular music generally sucks these days. But look a little deeper and you'll see that great music is still being made every day.
KnfRaw 7 months ago 43
@KnfRaw The artists didn't start or condone Vietnam. I've a vietnam vet. The music painted an alternative. WE chose poorly. More wars, more death, more middle class suffocation. Does today's music rage against that? Hell no. It poses and pimps for the corporate masters. Sure, the sixties were deeply flawed, but I'd sure as hell take 'em over the crap we have going on today. Thanks for playing.
mollyipowers 4 months ago 3
@mollyipowers At no point did I say the artists condoned Vietnam. I was just pointing out that the 60s weren't as glorious as they are often claimed to be. And you just described today's mainstream music. You've made the mistake that everyone seems to make by assuming that all modern music is the same as what we see in the Top 40 each week - it isn't.
KnfRaw 4 months ago
@KnfRaw Amen.
mrsgstd 4 months ago
@KnfRaw I agree, its only through the passage of time that we really appreciate what we have in the present. There are good bands now that will be looked back on in years to come as timeless. Its merely human nature to see the grass a being greener elsewhere. I have bands I like now, but people have to search out songs that have meaning to them, every age has good music it is our job to go forth and search it out.
wheelgunjoe 3 months ago
@KnfRaw Agreed completely. Plus there is dubstep now.
DanpachiSama 3 months ago
@KnfRaw: I agree partly, just let me know of 3 songs from these days that have a message.
mtoro16 3 months ago 3
@KnfRaw Im sick of little turds that werent alive when playstation 2 came out talking authoritatively about ANYTHING except pokemon.
run along junior
syngar99 3 months ago 11
@syngar99 "Your old road is rapidly aging. Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand."
Hexiva 2 months ago
@Hexiva lol i love how quotes are used as an arguing point.
syngar99 2 months ago
@syngar99 Hey, that's a really idiotic and counter-progressive view point. Not to mention ageist. You might as well say women are unqualified to talk about academia. It's the same level of prejudice.
For the record, you can be an incredibly experienced octogenarian who's seen the world from one corner to the other and still have a completely retarded opinion.
Likewise, there are insightful pre-teens in the world. Deal with it and get off your elitist high-horse.
MandibleMuge 1 week ago
@MandibleMuge not idiotic at all except to idiotic kids who have nothing to say except "kids can be insightful"
heres a factoid little kid - insight is worthless without the knowledge and experience to make use of it. anything else is just trite platitudes predicated by the weak minded.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 You fail to realize that with experience comes prejudice. The more you know about something, the more biases you have. A fresh outlook is always good. And I'm afraid that your understanding of Insight is totally off. You don't need vast amounts of knowledge to make an original observation on something. A decent knowledge base is more than enough. And for the record, I'm not saying "kids can be insightful" - I'm saying anyone can be.
MandibleMuge 1 week ago
@MandibleMuge lol! get off of it kid. A fresh insight is always good? what is "good" exactly? Thats hollywood romanticism.
You say a "decent" knowledge base and I say kids rarely have even that knowledge base. secondly, i am afraid you don't understand, comprehend, appreciate or realize what experience brings to the table.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 I'm afraid you don't comprehend what experience brings to the table. Ever hear the phrase "It's hard to fill a cup that's already full"? Rejecting someone's opinion just because they see things from a different angle than you is ignorant, nothing else to it.
MandibleMuge 1 week ago
@MandibleMuge No I am afriad you don't understand what experience is. and retorting with trite platitudes won't change that.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 Hehe, okay this has gotten ridiculous. If your only response is "NO U" then there's no point continuing. Enjoy seeing the world one-dimensionally for the rest of your life.
MandibleMuge 1 week ago
@MandibleMuge haha, you see the issue at hand is that by accusing me of something you are guilty of, the only recourse for me is to go "dude really?"
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 Eh. I'm just astonished that you think music is something you have to qualify in to have an opinion on. Sure, some people will have baseless arguments but does that mean you can just say "This generation or gtfo", especially given the particular subject matter of this song?
MandibleMuge 1 week ago
@MandibleMuge i dont recall ever saying anything like "this generation of gtfo" and im not being snide when i say that. when it comes to age however, its pretty fair to say "someone who is so and so age probably does not X"
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 WOW what an arrogant dick hahahahaha. WHO died and elected you Plato because, bad news, you're doing it wrong. This whole argument just reeks of "mid-life crisis." I hope I never get so bitter about getting older that I find it prudent to belittle others for simply (allegedly) having less knowledge and experience. Insight REQUIRES neither, but is informed by both. I think that's what you meant to say.
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 matt matt matt silly ass. you want to sound like you have something to say, and you want a decisive rebuttle. but its all hot air out of you kiddo. just log off and go finish beating whatever monster is it in warcraft these days. as for reaking, you reak of lonely angry teenager, i wouldnt worry about bitterness, you are already there.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 you are really just too much haha, completely exposed and STILL won't actually try to engage in any real, content-based debate. You scared that I might ACTUALLY know a thing or two? Come on, really. What's your beef? If you're so sure of yourself, come on just say something intelligent (you spelled reek wrong btw. I guess maybe you used urbandictionary?) Well as long as I know you're just a coward and not actually trying to teach anyone anything... Peace, I've got mine thanks.
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 really? you live ina magical world where you do nothing but make strawman attacks and then ironically accuse me of them, and then play the 14 yr old girl make a snide comment and then runaway tact? good riddance. what should i learn exactly? how to argue on 4chan? no thanks.
p.s love the ad hominem regarding my typos.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 uh oh someone's getting mad... Still haven't read a concrete, pseudo-intellectual thing to reply to and take a position on. Ad hominem requires that I at least have an established position... for future reference. Bro, you have used nothing but strawman on me this whole time. I'm not mad, I admit I've been using them but I live in a magical world where I can only reply with reason to arguments that are based in reason, of which you have provided exactly 0. Sorry boutcha.
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 lol, mad? it's cool man between you and me, we can both see the more you emote the more vehement you are getting, its okay really! kids have a hard time with their feelings, and evidently they are a bit hypocritical too.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 Just keep that see-through train chugging, Plato haha. Well I applaud the effort, kid (minus the redundancy of using emote and vehement in the same sentence...) but really I'm bored. You're obviously never going to engage in anything deeper than verbal sparring, which I confess I do enjoy but only for a time and with a worthy opponent. You have ultimately won, though. I wasted a lot of time hoping you had something backing up those big words. You can have the last word now go ahead.
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 hey kid (unironically) anytime you want to attempt to talk without the pathetic ad hominems, strawmen and cliched rhetoric go for it, fact is - you are incapable of it.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 ah, the taming of the beast. I accept your challenge good sir! Please, show me to be a fool and settle this thing once and for all. I promise to address only your ideas and words and not your person. See? This isn't hard, why did we waste all that time. Kindly state your grievance and your reasoning.
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 haha! i admire your insistence on condescension.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 if that was ironic, it was amusingly ironic. you have yet to learn my age, yet you continue to refer to me as a teenager. Not mad (like I said maturity and age aren't necessarily the same), merely pointing out the irony.
If that, however, WAS your grievance, I will ignore that you provided no reason and simply reply that I am very sorry that I have offended you. Also: "do unto others," etc. etc. This was a disappointing discussion, but I suppose you win again for luring me back Cheers!
matttv824 1 week ago
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matttv824 1 week ago
@KnfRaw, while I completely agree with everything you said .. this something in ... that which comes first is always the best .. though I dont think I would give up Radio Head for PPM. This song its so correct, and completely current ... Its almost a "shame on you" to the baby boomers .. where the hell are they, while they have run our country into the ground .. and I would love to put this song in every one of their homes .. to remind them of what was .. and what they were supposed to make true
objectform 3 months ago
@KnfRaw actually you are being academically dishonest, you talk about the quality of music and compare it to the era of the music.
thats like saying "Beethoven wasnt so great they have the black plague back then"
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 I'm talking about both. People glorify and overstate the music of the 60s and the period of time itself. I think that's more than clear in my comment.
KnfRaw 1 week ago
@KnfRaw no, sloppy diction.
but also i disagree that people glorify the period, and frankly in many ways the music was glorious, I wasnt alive back then myself, but as i gained (here it comes ) experience I realize how good it was.
as for the eras, while the 60s were rife with social issues, there are many days id take those problems over the shitpile we live in now.
syngar99 1 week ago
1966 was the year I married my wife who died just this feb 28. hearing this song reminds of her and the good times we had then. Not so these last few years when she was sick.
macseemusthe3rd 8 months ago 3
@macseemusthe3rd Life sure has its problems, loosing people you love surrending youth and then starting the road down to old mans town but you have your memories, thats of course if you dont end up with oltimers. I miss my youth, I had the best fun, and yes its true, the times are a changeing.
critchley3819 7 months ago
I was there in the 60s. Yeah the music was great but people seem to have selective memory. We had racial tensions, Boys could expect to be sent at 18 to Viet Nam, an unpopular war that you could never see an end to. Riots, cities burning, tear gas in the streets. Liberals agains conservatives, young against old. This country went through hell. I hope we never see that here again.
novusmysticus 8 months ago
@novusmysticus I was there too, so, what has changed, we are here again, and this time there may be no way back, different landscape, different weapons, different wars, still no leadership, still government incompetence, still corruption, still a little good music hidden in the noise, I'll not live long enough to see where we go from here, but the chances are not good...
clbill 7 months ago
I don't know how many people already said that, but it's THE times they are....
not THESE times....
call me small-minded but it's a dylan song so it must be correct, right?
in my opinion this version isn't very good. it's close to the original but not so good. this song is so strong that you can't make a bad job
Tatze11 8 months ago
If you listen to any of their songs from that time period, you will find the conviction you speak of and a true reflection of the times. What they sang about then is true today, it is timeless, which makes it a thing of beauty.
ghostspirit52 8 months ago 3
What impressed me most about this was the conviction with which this song was sung, was it because of the era or have we lost something they had? A lot can be changed with conviction.
jennyp0101 8 months ago 4
Damn, wish I could have been with her in the 60's haha. I was born in the 80's :(
SuperDeadlyVirus 8 months ago
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PeugAult 8 months ago
Dylan was a genuis. This song is timeless. It can be applied to each new generation. It probably should be the US Anthem
MrBooRadly 8 months ago 2
What happened to popular music in this country? At least the folk songs of the 60's had melody and intelligible words. We've gone a long way - - - - down.
Tannenberg71410 8 months ago
It's so great that y7oung people are hearing this music! For me and the kids I lived with, PP&M were not just entertainers, they were heroes..flames burning in the night to show us that the people around us were vastly more valuable than the cash in our bank accounts, that an injustice to the weakest among us was truly an injustice to us all.
Listen to the music, pick up the hammer, DREAM, change the world..there is still so much to done!
tb30486 8 months ago
best interpretation of Bob Dylan's lyrics
jbdmed 9 months ago
Mary Travers was a beautiful woman. And so talented.
drone3of6 9 months ago 2
Thatsakeeper - Thank you!
paocho3 9 months ago
sweet sweet mary ....rip
saltshaker7777 9 months ago
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3 people, 1 guitar - 1 bass, timeless lyrics, unquestionable talent, the modern world needs More of this!
WealthLetter 9 months ago
3 people, 1 guitar, timeless lyrics, unquestionable talent, the modern world needs More of this!
WealthLetter 9 months ago 3
the battle is still raging. I heard both Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy speak less than a year before they were both murdered. Why is it that the right wing racists are not the ones shot? This song is as relevant today as it was in 1963, maybe more so.
slownoman 9 months ago 3
The times are changing again... Its time for another summer of love!!!
libermusic67 9 months ago 2
Why did we ever leave the 60s? Musicians for peace, not profit.
johnclarkemusic 9 months ago 4
Wow, were we all ever THAT young? Their music still never fails to touch my heart.
bardsparrow 9 months ago 4
@bardsparrow yea guess we were where has all the good times gone ..////;;
saltshaker7777 9 months ago
Knowing what I do now, I would come close to selling my soul, were I be in this audience.
Having said that, I strongly believe, some this day, because of this, did 'change'.
twinstu50 9 months ago
Bob Dylan is so much better!!!!!
feiveloppenheim 9 months ago
@feiveloppenheim Than what?
absoftitanium 9 months ago
Mary Travers was so hot she could ignite matches with her mere presence from 50 ft. away. God RIP Fairy Princess Mary.
bstdenni1 10 months ago 27
@bstdenni1 lol!! You are SO right. She was definitely my kind of folk :+)
HolyMotherofGrid 9 months ago
I was born in 1985, but I will say this. THIS is music. Not like today's music. I enjoy this more than 99% of what is out today. As I like to say music slowly started to die in the 80s and 90s. 60s and 70s will always be GREAT music to me. even some 50s are good.
UnbiasedGiraffe 10 months ago 5
Is that Tommy Smothers on bass?
medicalnegligence 10 months ago
Next up on the BBC is World Snooker Championships.
lowmazda626 10 months ago
Ah, Peter, Paul, and Mary. My dad played their songs all the time when I was a kid. I loved them, and at 24 I still love them.
Kempokaratefan 10 months ago
Mary Travers-awesome!
TheOldrob 10 months ago
Some of the comments on here! Good grief!! Still love to here this group now and then. They were a force in their time!
larryjackson04 10 months ago
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I wonder if Mary sucked them off.
PDXland37 10 months ago
@PDXland37 Moron...
clbill 7 months ago
and don't forget Bob Dylan's superb music
DrBongos 11 months ago
did this band ever write a song of their own?????
bohsgerry 11 months ago
@bohsgerry ~ they were singers, not song writers, Jim
Kayce1957 10 months ago
@bohsgerry Puff the Magic Dragon and The Wedding Song. I seen them in concert three times, and they done their own songs. Most of their commercial hits were other writers songs
DELPHI1945 10 months ago
@bohsgerry They were not exactly a 'band.' They wrote a bunch of their own songs. They preformed a lot of songs written by other people. They reworked and retooled a lot of older (some quite obscure) folk tunes. PP&M were a very polished group.
stepanova8 10 months ago 3
I wish i lived in this time, the music seemed real and people worshiped the true music makers.
Seemed like people actually cared for something more than "money and bitches"...
At least their spirits live on in these fantastic tunes!
TheTaylorGuy 11 months ago 5
wait, did bob dylan or ppm sing this originally?
Rabastu5 11 months ago
@Rabastu5 Dylan
DrBongos 11 months ago
@Rabastu5 Dylan wrote this in 1963 right before JFK was assassinated. Then Dylan performed & recorded this first. PP&M performed several of his tunes as did many groups.
Baggs4299 10 months ago
Beautiful!!!
Cipri1001 11 months ago
Ummm, not to be superficial, and it could well be that it's when I came of age, BUT the ladies of that time and place seem much more attractive to me...fortunately even though they and I have all grown older, I continue to adore women from that era...
dumboldon 11 months ago
@dumboldon MEn have their little check points about a woman's style & figure. (The 2 are not necessisarily the same). One part of a woman's body you can check out without her thinking he's checking me out. If you see a good looking lady check out the profile of her ears. It pains me to say it but Sarah Palin has great looking ears & the rest of her follows her ears. This is NOT a poitical endorsement.
aellarex 11 months ago
This is about music, not your objectification of human beings. Take it somewhere else please so I can read the comments of people who appreciate this without having to weed through the bs some of you are posting. The song is about the way things change and here you people are talking about women like this is the 18th century. Wake up.
matttv824 11 months ago 3
@matttv824 The suject of popular music is usually about guess what: WOMEN. If you cannot understand that fact then what good are you talking about women in general & their looks in particular. My wife was beautiful when we got married; we are now pushing 70 but she is still is beautiful to me. Songs about women tell a whole lot about why we live & die and that is sex. There's other types of things that are beautiful and should be sung about. First they must be talked about.
aellarex 11 months ago
@aellarex maybe you think you are telling me something I don't know? There is a difference between sexualizing and objectifying that I don't think you recognize. Only one is done out of love and I'm sure you know which one I am talking about. There's no need to be condescending especially when the point you are talking down to is a point entirely different from the one I was making. To quote one of your generation: "Please get out of the new one if you can't lend your hand"
matttv824 11 months ago
@matttv824 Last time I checked music almost all contains statements about the opposite sex. Yes sex & bodies. Music would be boring in the extreme if it didn't tell thoughts about the opposite sex. Sex sells; it's also nice to listen to music about the other half.
aellarex 11 months ago
@matttv824 this is about whatever the hell we want it to be. but what its not is an invitation for idiots like you to make tired pseudo progressive rants.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 HAHAHAHAHAHA why you mad though? I'll admit is was a skillfully executed cop out, but it still reeks of cowardice. You'd make a great Congress person though! You've been out gunned so you resort to claiming "that's never what it was about in the first place." I wasn't the one who started that debate and I'm sorry you have nothing better to do than go through 14 pages of comments to find something to make a tepid statement about haha. Better luck next time :)
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 Lol! Speaking of copouts, the best response you can give is a reworded version of "umadbro"?
I will reiterate- it is NOT YOU who decides what the song is about or why it was posted. So run along junior and go try your teenage tactics on the warcraft forums.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 Umadbro? First of all, you are wrong, it IS me that gets to decide, as a sentient, English-speaking musician and a free thinking human being, every single one of us has the right to decide what a song is about.
Second of all, what the hell are you talking about? I never tried to claim the song was about anything hahahahahaha show me where I told someone what this song was about. Go on, I'm waiting.
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 Oh no you misunderstand me kiddo. you can believe a song is about anything you want, but you are a pretentious little smug shit lecturing otehrs about what the song is about and whether or not they should be allowed to talk about it in the way they want' I know that teenagers are slow learners, but please take five seconds and think before typing. " The song is about the way things change" ps there is your example.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 The song is about the way things change lmao. You are just full of hot air aren't you. You're going to pick the most obviously correct thing I said about the song and use it against me? (Revist Congress-member thread) I'm not a teenager but I'm wise enough to know that age has little to do with maturity and someone who spends their time arguing with someone they believe to be a child is probably a fool looking for a mojo boost. You're in over your head buddy
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 oh and if I was lecturing on anything it was on objectification and the commodification of women, not the meaning of the song (which I'm sure I am much more qualified to present an opinion on than yourself, not that it matters) I do not and will not apologize for advocating respect for other people.
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 the only LMAO here is how you have the audacity and the irony to belittle someone ELSE for an ego boost by arguing online. if by "over my head" you mean not as full of shit as you are, then you are correct.
butill wager you will continue to attempt to have the last word, a true sign of maturity.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 My good & forever friend, you came to me, not the other way around. Please remember who it was that, again, found it necessary to sift through 14 PAGES of comments to find something to say. As long as you keep making witless jabs at the character of someone you know nothing about, I will continue to respond. Sorry I don't take your "wager" very seriously as a) this is the internet and b) you apparently desire the last word so much that you want to scare me out of replying. THAT'S lolzy
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 lolzy, umadbro.. you sound more and more like a 16 yr old.
for the record sparky, i didnt sift through anything, HOWEVER as we both know you lack any sort of debating ability and instead try to shame and embarrass your opponent with insults like "sifting" I don;t know why i should bother explaining that my comments are sorted by votes and for some ungodly reason you had more than zero so i saw it with little effort.
And again i laugh at your ironic "scare me out of replying" comment.
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 ah yes, "I sound like..." Again, a strawman to distract from your lack of anything meaningful to add to...well nothing. Unfortunately, the language I use does not ACTUALLY inform you either on my intelligence or my age. *Whispers* this is the internet... There is real irony here though, I admit you right there: you have repeatedly resorted the the same tactics that you accuse me of using ^.^ If you call this a debate, I'm led to believe you vote Republican. What are we debating?
matttv824 1 week ago
@matttv824 strawman? really? oh wait you aren't being ironic are you?
Ah well, i guess I can't expect much from umadbro-man
syngar99 1 week ago
@syngar99 lol ironic the most important-sounding word you could think of to defend against being pinned...?
matttv824 1 week ago
I have to disagree that all women in the 60s were as people called "conventionally attractive" or hot. The ones who fit the pre-existing priorities of female attractiveness were just the ones being photographed...in America anyway.
bowlingfordisco 11 months ago
Loved PP&M all my life, but never really focused on Mary's looks until recently. Watching these old videos, I'm transfixed. She's beautiful.
takfam07 11 months ago
who drugged the audience? oops i forgot it was the 60,s!!!!!
bobcorb 11 months ago
I'm thinking about the people of Egypt tonight 2/10/11
The courage and determination and disciple of the young people.
Refusing to be victims anymore and leadership thrush on them.
So the demo at the State TV Station and Nazir with his bomb
Nazir stop but he screams that nobody knows.They cooperated in the destruction of my father. Nazir, brother, they are are with us now, will you head the delegation to take the station?
scottnsanfran 11 months ago
It's common to cover another songwriter. They love it cause they make more money. In 1966, long before riots, pot and Vietnam had come to the forefront of most of America, folk singers were still a respected part of the musical landscape. A little oddball perhaps, but OK just the same. Note the way they are dressed. Same with all the groups EXCEPT, of course, Brother Bob. He made Greenwich Village a tour-bus stop and scared the shit out of parents (at least those who listened to the words).
cpmgroup 1 year ago
Still favoring Dylan's version.
jstech84 1 year ago
PP&M and a Dylan song - a perfect combination. I remember seeing Mary Travers