st.petersburgh is builded on finno-ugric ppl bones, isuri,vepsa,etc,whole leningrad oblast consists alot finno-ugric ppl, that not yet destroyed in stalin racial holocaust to date
This is a composition based on and Irish military march from late 17th century - played in slow tempo. It was used by Carl XII at Narva when he attacked Russian troops besieging a Swedish fortress there. It was winter and a snow storm made it difficult to hold ranks steady. Hence the funeral pace.
Must have scared the living shit out o the surprised russians.
@wipem Olin 2001 sukulaissetäni hautajaisissa. Pappi oli ehdottanut tätä marssia tilaisuuden loppuun, kun arkku kannetaan kirkosta. Vainaja oli osallistunut talvi- ja jatkosotaan. Pappi kertoi, että tämä on hyvin suosittu marssi veteraanin hautajaisissa. Siinä tilaisuudessa marssi sopi kuin nenä päähän.
Sweden and Finland have had the same prospects for at least 500 years. This is something like hudreds of generatulul. Krrhm... Oradea. Grosswardein. Big (or old)Varadzin. Hungary, under Romanian jurisdictioin. Finn
Die sind schon längst alle wieder da und kämpfen weiter für die Befreiung Europas von der jüdisch-islamischen Subversion und von den Amis vorgesehenen Zwangsherrschaft über uns alle hier! 88!!!
if someone should go with your facts they would think we are all finns in scandinavia. FFS.
and this is a irish folksong taken by us swedes and played at the battle of Narva, but more upbeat, then later during the 1800's nationalism given lyrics.
now finland use it but have cut some of the lyrics which where about swedish kings.
Those kings were our kings too. Finland was since the end of the Vinking era when the Kindom of Sweden borned half Sweden to 1809. How many wars Sweden has had since finnish guys did not any more fight in your army. (ZERO). Finnish people from Savo populated North Sweden forest rich areas from Tornio River Valley to Värmland and parts of Norway too. South Sweden (Skåne) was before North Denmark. Your royal family then is a pathetic bourgeois french family without royal roots.
sure, but that dont make us all finns now? and i didnt ask for frog kings, that was way before my time, nothing much to do about it, and the current king is A-OK in my books.
@Qlasettaja Ei Skandinavia ole kielialue vaan maantieteellinen alue. Etsi kartalta Skandinavian niemimaa. Maat, joilla on maata Skandinavian niemimaalla, ovat Norja, Suomi ja Ruotsi. Ruotsin, Norjan, Tanskan ja Islannin kielet kuuluvat germaaniseen kieliperheeseen. Ruotsin täytyy antaa Skåne takaisin, jotta Tanska olisi osa Skandinaviaa. Maailmalla Skandinaviaan luetaan Suomi, Ruotsi, Norja, Tanska ja Islanti hyvin samankaltaisen kultuurin vuoksi.
Onks ruotsalaiset aivopesseet sut. Yleisesti maailmalla Skandinavian maiksi luetaan. Suomi, Ruotsi, Norja, Tanska ja Islanti. Okei, sun ajattelulla sitten ainoat Skandinavian maat on Ruotsi ja Norja. Tanska ja Islanti eivät missään nimessä voi olla myöskään mikään osa Skandinaviaa, koska kumpikaan maa ei edes maantieteellisesti sijaitse Skandinavian alueella. Osa Suomea sentään sijaitsee. Tanska on osa läntistä Keski-Eurooppaa ja Islanti on saari Pohjois- Atlantilla
@GBOY69GAY Niin kuin Qlasettaja jo sanoi, asiasta on jo kiistelty moneen otteeseen, mutta fakta on että Suomi on Fennoskandiaa ja sillä sipuli.
Mitä taas tulee maailman ajattelu tapaan, kyllä liitäntä tehdään historian takia enemmän kuin kultturiselta pohjalta. Tai jos kultturi sotketaan niin sehän vain tarkoittaa etteivät arvon meren takaiset ystävämme ymmärrä Suomen ja muiden Poholan maiden eroa.
Sähän puhut ihan sekavia ja ristiin. Historialliselta pohjalta Suomi vasta Skandinaviaan kuuluukin. Mene takaisin historian tunnille. Huomaat pian, että Suomen alue oli viikinkiajan päättymisestä ja yhtenäisen Ruotsin kuningaskunnan synnystä lähtien aina vuoteen 1809 noin puolet Ruotsin kantavaltakunnan maa-alueesta. Historialliset Skandinavian kuningaskunnat taas olivat Ruotsi ja Tanska. Norja ja Suomi syntyivät nationalismin myötä myöhemmin.
@GBOY69GAY Ja entäs ennen vuotta 1323? Eikö Suomea ja suomalaisia muka ole ollut olemassa ennen Ruotsin ja Novgorodin sopimusta? Valtio nimeltä Suomi syntyi vasta 1917, mutta Suomi on ollu täällä siitä asti kun ensimmäiset finno-ugri kansat tänne pääsivät viime jääkauden jälkeen.
Eihän Tunisiaa, Egyptäa tai nykyistä Turkin aluettakaan lasketa Euroopaksi vaikka nuo alueet olivat melkein Rooman alaisuudessa sukupolvien ajan. Miten siis Fennoskandia ja Suomi olisi yllättäen sama kuin Skandinavia?
Suomen kieli on finno-ugrinen, mutta suomalaiset ei. Suomalaiset muuttivat Länsi-Euroopasta. Pieni joukko finno-ugreja tuli tyhjään Suomeen ennen paljon suurempaa joukkoa germaaneja, jotka saapuivat vuosisatojen aikana, mikä aiheutti Suomen kieliparadoksin, kun germaanit omaksuivat jo täällä olleen kielen. Suomalaiset on noin 70% germaaneja ja loput on muuta eurooppalaista geenistöä, sukulaiskansat löytyvät Belgian flaameista ja hollantilaisista.
tämän kappaleen koskettavuus ja tunne sydämessä Suomalaisella ei koskaan muutu. Uhrauksien kautta suuri voitto, ja ne uhraukset ja uhrit saavat oskaseen sen kunnioituksen ja jalon arvon joka heille kuuluu! Nostan hattuani, kumarran ja annan kyynelien virrata,...
Tätä hienoa surumarssia on soitettu usean suomalaisen suurmiehen hautajaisissa. Kuvaa minusta hienosti lähdön hetken raskautta mutta pientä toivoa paremmasta ajasta raskaan menetyksen jälkeen. Omistan osaltani tämän kappaleen kaikille suomalaisille sotilaille, jotka puolustivat isänmaata Talvi- ja Jatkosodassa huolimatta pelosta, väsymyksestä, toverien kuolemasta ja unenpuutteesta.
Sorry, I haven´t read all the commentaries. But the ones referring to a lost battle of Narva are slightly wrong. Narva was won by the Swedish-Finnish army.
But is the really a march? It is usually played in Uppsala as the music of Eric Gustaf Geijers famous poem 30 november 1818 "Viken tidens flyktiga minnen". The composer of the music is Haeffner.
Well, sure it is not a happy march:-) It is more like a mourning thing, a dead march. And Estonia still has Narva, lets see how long, because there are certain people in power, who don't like independent Estonia.
You mean in Russia,You have NATO and EU.We have only EU and some 1200 km common bordier against Russia .Anyway,we will never ever be left alone again!
Russia is of course a major threat to both Finland and the rest of Scandinavia. However...the EU poses an even greater threat to ALL nations of Europe. Our nations aren't sovereign no more and our individual freedoms are being eroded by the EU. If you love your country, as I love mine, you should oppose the EU with all your might.
Those russian cocksuckers are a eternal threat to all around them as long there are living sick bastards to russian fucks. Sterilize them all so it ain't are born any more of them.
I am not agree with you, there are people who dont like nationalistic movement in estonia and discrimination of russians, but no one wants Estonia to be not independent! I know the real situation, coz I am from Narva.
This March is named after the battle of Narva where it was played in this battle of Narva in 1700 according to an oral tradition. The first known notation dates back to 1798, where it is called March, used when Charles XII aproached Narva. During the day of the battle there was a thick snow blizzard, so it is natural that a battle march was a slow march, so that the lines would remain united until the ssault.
Correct. Geijer wrote this song in commemoration of Charles XII:s death in Norway, not his brilliant victory at Narva. I guess that is why the song is so sad. I do not know why the Finns call this Narvan Marssi. The battle of Narva was an occasion for happiness, not grief.
I've read that during of the battle of Narva there was snow storm. And it the band should play slow march, not quick one. Snow storm was quite heavy cause 20 00 Russians escape from city and they didn't realize that attachers were only couple of thousands Finns,
@enizbib Actually, there where no "Finns" during the imperial era. Finland was two almost solely Swedish speaking regions in what today is south western Finland. Almost everyone in present day Finland (excluding Lappland) spoke Swedish and where both nationally and internationally considered Swedes, in fact more "pure" Swedish than, for instance, Scanians. There where however Karelians which spoke a Finnish accent and where not considered proper Swedes.
@lolzer93 Grade? Ph.D. is a degree. Doctor of Philosophy if you did not know that. Karl XII:s march vid Narva is but another proof of the awkward truth about the history of what you call Finland.
@ChetzNation And who mistaught you to think that? If anything, Swedes and Sweden have always had a very favourable image portrayed in official histories and in other education. We were in the same kingdom once, but Finns and Swedes have always been separate nations. The fact that a Finnish national consciousness does not change the fact of their separate language, culture, origin, etc.
@enizbib ...I'd like to point out that several other Finno-Ugric Baltic ethnicities existed at the time, like Estonians, Livonians, and Courlanders. However, most of these where reduced to extinction by the Bolsheviks. In 1705, 17% of the populace of present day "Finland", could only speak Swedish. And there where hardly any east-Swedes that didn't speak the language. After the separation, neo-nationalist "Finns", strongly supported by the people, re-introduced Finnish as the main Language.
Several king of Sweden get a lot of support from Finland, Gustav Vasa, for example. Thinks could be different in Sweden without Finland.
I can't say lot of from the about the year11:46 1.5.2011 of 1705. Maybe it´s accurate, I really belive that there were real need to calculate people in 1705. But then almost all Finns were live occupied areas. Quite difficult even Swedes go and ask their language.
Because Peter the Great has starting to build St. Petersbug.
@enizbib Now, you might be thinking "What was there instead of Finland?"
The northern part of Finland was a part of Swedish Norrland. Åland was a part of Svealand. Finnish Karelia was a part of Karelia. And the last, and largest, part was called Österland. Apart from Karelia, these where all parts of Sweden Proper. In the separation, Russia took half of Norrland, parts of Svealand, and Österland, and made the former Swedish regions a part of the Grand duchy of Finland; hence the name.
I can't say lot of from the about the year11:46 1.5.2011 of 1705. Maybe it´s accurate, I really belive that there were real need to calculate people in 1705. But then almost all Finns were live occupied areas. Quite difficult even Swedes go and ask their language.
Because Peter the Great has starting to build St. Petersbug.
1700 talet Russians occupied Finland many times.
Until they took it finally.
The Winter palace in St. Peterburg, founded over a 10 Finnsh houses.
@ChetzNation correction; Grand Duchy of Finland had already been founded in 1581, and many Swedish kings and/or their heirs held the title of "Grand Duke of Finland" (or as some sources call the title, "Grand Prince of Finland", in Finnish the title never changed between the 1581 and 1917) before Czar Alexander I of Russia claimed the title in 1809, the first king to hold the title was king John III of Sweden, before 1577 the equal title was 'just' "Duke of Finland"
@dimapez Yes indeed but the grand Duchy did not include Karelia or Norrland or Åland or any other of those regions... So what kind of "correction" are you talking about?
@ChetzNation Firstly... there was no independent Finland un till 1917. Secondly: Finland was part of Sweden proper, that is, it was an essential (and original) part of the historical "Rigedom av Sverige" or "Major Sweden" from year ~1250 AD onwards. However, during that time Finland's situation can be considered as a semi-independent. This ended 1599 in "Turku (Åbo) bloodbath" when many of the Finnish high nobility were executed.
Yes, Swedish kings had the title "Grand Principality of Finland or Grand Duchy of Finland". Had this any actual meaning except in the ceremonies? Probably not after 1599 but... The big but is that the area of the Grand Principality of Finland was also governed by the bishop of Turku (Åbo) and populated mainly by Finnish speaking people. So, in a way Finland was a part of Sweden proper, in a way it was not.
"Yes indeed but the grand Duchy did not include Karelia or Norrland or Åland..." Iam not sure about Å. but where have you find that (Finnish) "Karelia" or "Norrland" were not part of Finland? Look the "Map of Grand Duchy of Finland" made by Andreas Bureus in 1622. There are a) G. Duke's coat of arms (of "Finlandia")...
@ChetzNation... b) Duke's coat of arms of "Finl. merid."(South Finland; that is, Finland proper, Varsinais-Suomi), "Finl. sept."(Satakunta),"Tavastia"(Häme)and "CARELIA" (Karelia or Karjala), c) Count's coat of arms of "Savolaxia" (Savo), "Nylandia" (Nyland, Uusimaa) and CAIANIA.
@ChetzNation "Caiania" was and is area in the W coast of Finland. Its nothern border was ~ Kemi -river. Caiania can be translated in Finnish as Kainuu but its synonym is "Pohjanmaa". Correct English translation for "Pohjanmaa" is Northland, in Swedish Norrland ("pohja" is north, "maa" is land).
@ChetzNation So in fact in “Major Sweden” there was two "Norrlands": one in Finnish side, one in Swedish side. Minor Swedes can claim their rights to their Norrland but it is totally miss leading claiming Finnish side of the "Norrland", Pohjanmaa, as a part of Minor Sweden's Norrland. And by the way, they were Birkarler, pirkkalaiset, who first taxed Lappish people in Norrland and Lappland for the Swedish crown. And they came from Finnish side.
"The Finnish-Swedish army has lost the battle close to city of Narva, they are defeated and slowly retreat now and all the time slowly rain snow in to the ground". That why the flute playing major role in this march! (nowdays that battle place are close to Estonian border)
The march is slow because it was snowing during the battle, so the lines would not have held together if the march were quick. I assume that the arrangement as a funeral march happened around the 100th anniversary of Charles XII's death, though I don't have real sources for that besides the 'net. The Swedish lyrics begin "Viken, tidens flyktiga minnen".
Finland surely is a part of Scandinavia if Denmark is. The only coutries, which own land on Scandinavian peninsula are Norway, Sweden and Finland. Denmark and Iceland have no land on the Scandinavian peninsula area. So Finland surely is a part of Scandinavia, because part of Finland is on the area of Scandinavian peninsula. Denmark and Iceland are not part of Scandinavia what comes geography.
Scandinavians? Don´t try to steal our glory for your swedish and norwegian brethren. Finland fought alone and at the same time formed a wall that protected the rest of scandinavia as well as Finland.
Don't care about Schmidtah, he's just an ignorant fool. But for the record: Sweden have Never betrayed Finland. Sweden lost Finland in the disastrous "Finnish war". It's remarkable that many Finns demanded that a Swedish entry the winter war, on what basis? Sweden helped Finland as much as they could (and so much more). Unfortunately many Finns of today are too blindfolded to realize that. We do not expect you to be grateful, but at least not intolerable...
@CmJH Actually you have...During our civil war you took over Åland i would say that would be betraying don't you think?
But in ww2 Sweden as coverment didin't helped us much but finnish (like me) ARE gratefull of all help they got. so pls don't say that we are "intolerable" but you didn t do as much as you could have...
@CmJH You are right. Sweden helped Finland in many ways, our schools don`t tell anything about this aim and that is one reason why the teenagers don´t undestand Your poin of view.
@Schmidtah Yeah there was, but officially Finland was abandoned. Finland got about 15 000 volunteers in total but for an example Sweden promised to help Finland if Finland would've gotten into war, but what happened? Only 8000 volunteers came (and many of those Swedens-finns, when they had the potential of sending hundreds of thousands soldiers to Finland as they promised. Finland had about 400 000 men fighting there plus 15 000 volunteers so they didnt help as much as they could have.
Finland was NOT abandoned, don't forget that sweden more or less empted her weapon stockpiles making her unable to defend for her self so the her brothers on the other side of the baltic sea could stand up against the aggressor. I am truly sorry for my countrys actions, not standing up for Finland but as I see it we couldent because of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.
PS
And please remember the Estonias how fought and died for Finland.
@Schmidtah Not Scandinavians, only Finns. Swedes didn't do shit, they were playing ping pong and having fun the Swedish way. Norway got pwned right away as did the Danes.
@MGSoldier That is bs. Alot people came from Sweden and Norway to help out the Finnish people in the war! Also alot children was sent to Sweden while the war was going. So they did do "shit"
@MGSoldier Ihan sama miten sä sen näet, todellisuus on eri. Ruotsalaisista ja norjalaisista oli suuri apu Suomelle ja sodissa voi myös auttaa muullakin kuin kivääreillä.
@MGSoldier Joo, mutta noista asioita ei hirveesti vois kiistellä. Voit kiistellä niiden apujen vähäisyydestä, mutta en silti kuvailis jollekkin ulkomaalaiselle niitä "shit"
@MGSoldier Et myöskään kysynyt mielipidettäni huonoon kommentiisi, vastasin silti. Kukaan historiaa tunteva täysjärkinen ei voi kuvailla tuota apua as shit.
@leibakki Jos olisi ollut suuri apu, olisi siitä kuullut aika paljon paskaa. Minä en koskaan muista kuulleeni hiiskaustakaan norjalaisten avusta. Svenssonien lapsien sijoittelusta olen kuullut, mutta vähät itse siitä välitän.
@MGSoldier Ehkä sitten olisi pitänyt kuunnella historian tunneilla paremmin. Talvisodassa Suomeen tuli noin 11000 (mahd. enemmän) ulkomaalaista auttamaan ja näistä suurin osa oli ruotsalaisia vapaaehtoisia jotka ottivat osaa taisteluihin. Myös Ruotsin ilmavoimat auttoivat Suomen puolustuksessa.
Joo... Alunperinhän tämä on voiton marssi ja soitettukkin hieman eri iskutuksella ja temmolla, kuin nykyään. Jossain vaiheessa sitten muuttui hieman hitaammaksi ja soinniltaan kauniimmaksi sekä tunteikkaamaksi
Kaunis sävelmä, kuulostaa hautajaissoitolta. Se loppuu kesken, ikävä kyllä. Tunnen melodian. "Tuhkasta meidän on luotava maa, muut vaan menkööt merten taa.".
Marssia soitettiin Kaarle XII:n joukkojen hyökätessä venäläisten asemiin Narvassa. Tämä marssi oli sopiva siksi, että sen tahti sopi niihin olosuhteisiin (lumisade), jossa tämä taistelu käytiin. Näkyvyys oli heikko ja maasto luminen, joten jotta Kaarlen armeijan rivit saattin pysymään järjestyksessä, piti marssin olla tarpeeksi hidastempoinen. Narvan marssin toinen nimi on Kaarle XII:n marssi Narvassa. Pultavan taistelu hävittiin muuten vasta vuosia myöhemmin...
Ei kainuulainen sisu ole minnekään kadonnut, pelolla (?) odottaa vain uutta invaasiota, jääräpäisesti puolustaudumme jopa Turkua vastaan, puhumattakaan Leningradista tai Philadelphiasta -);
Never mind the history of the song. It's one of the most touching, SAD pieces I've ever heard. Makes me think of my grandfathers, who both were in the Finnish Civil War of 1918 as teenagers, and then at the front in the Winter War, and behind the lines in the Continuation War. We owe them all so much.
kahdeksan kymmenestä minun suvun miehestä(17v-) tuli kenkälaatikossa junaasemalle,pohjanmaalle,kotiin. Ja näistä kahdesta jotka eivät ole palanneet, ei vieläkään tiedetä mitään.
Mun ukki ja sen 2 veljeä oli talvi-ja jatkosodassa mun ukki tais pelastaa veljensä hengen jatkosodassa ja talvi sodas se ansaitsi vapaudenristin pelastettuaa ryhmänsä viholli linjojen takaa
paljon jäi miehiä rajan taa. isoisän 3 veljeä kaatui ja kaksi jäi rajan taa. toinen heistä kuoli synnyinkotinsa pihalle muolaassa kesällä 1944. kahtena vuonna olen käynyt kyseisellä sukuni synnyinsijalla, ja aina on viety kukkasia talon vanhan kaivon kannelle...
Se on hyvä että niitä veteraaneille kerättyjä rahoja pihdataan viimeiseen asti. Kukas pankkiiri tai neuvos ne perii sitten kun veteraaneja ei enää ole?
kiitos kommentista. Kylla mielestani kaikki niin talvi- kuin jatkosodassa kaatuneetkin ovat Suomen sankareita ja heille kuuluu hatunnosto ja kunnia. Kun asuin viela Suomessa, oli tapanani antaa sotaveteraanien keraykseen joka vuosi ainakin vahan rahaa, vaikka olisin kuinka itse ollut peeaa ja koyha opiskelija. Luojan kiitos Suomessa puhutaan yha suomea ja meilla on oma kulttuuri!
Kyllä olet oikeassa kyllä pitää jokaisen meistä laittaa se vaikka viikonlopun riento summa niille jotka oikeesti mahdollisti sen että täällä puhutaan suomea ja kaikilla turvallinen ja hyvä olo
asepalvelus alkaa reilun viikon päästä, kyllä siellä nyt se 362vrk pitää olla, jos ei suurempia haavereita käy tai muuten esty, kyllä nyt ainakin sen on suomalainen nuori mies velkaa.
Muuten, mista tama kuva on? Tietaako joku? Isoisani kaatui Syvarilla jatkosodassa ja ryssat rakensivat tien hautansa yli... En haluaisi olla katkera, mutta jyrsii.
irlantilainen laulu jota suomalaiset sotilaat lauloivat matkallaan revaliasta narvaan.
Fennoist 1 week ago
finn warriors minus sweden mulkut
asalminen1968 4 weeks ago
Piti soittaa tämä orkesterissa ja veteraanien päivänä..
Natureneite 3 months ago
st.petersburgh is builded on finno-ugric ppl bones, isuri,vepsa,etc,whole leningrad oblast consists alot finno-ugric ppl, that not yet destroyed in stalin racial holocaust to date
meegomae 7 months ago
Jos jossain marssissa soi toivo kaiken surun keskellä, niin tässä. Tämä hautajaisiini, kiitos.
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ove450 11 months ago
This is a composition based on and Irish military march from late 17th century - played in slow tempo. It was used by Carl XII at Narva when he attacked Russian troops besieging a Swedish fortress there. It was winter and a snow storm made it difficult to hold ranks steady. Hence the funeral pace.
Must have scared the living shit out o the surprised russians.
graniitti1 1 year ago
@graniitti1 Research is unable to positively attribute this piece or originating with the Irish or any of their military music.
People might want to google for "Claire Roche" and "The Song Of Fionnuala" and hear & check for themselves if they think there's a connection.
It just could be there were a number of themes circulating in Northern Europe in the past.
itapirkanmaa 11 months ago
I think, altho Finns has no any relates to the vikings, after ww2 vikings wouldn't mind if we would have.. if you understand my meaning..
umpisuoli87 1 year ago
For all past and future Heroes
tjurvane 1 year ago 29
Saako tätä käyttää hautajaismusiikkina, jos ei ole ammattisotilas tai kaadu sodassa?
wipem 1 year ago
@wipem kukas sen kieltäisi, Suomessa ei ole edes lailla vahvistettua kansallislaulua, puhumattakaan muista lailla suojatuista musiikkiteoksista.
dimapez 1 year ago
@wipem Olin 2001 sukulaissetäni hautajaisissa. Pappi oli ehdottanut tätä marssia tilaisuuden loppuun, kun arkku kannetaan kirkosta. Vainaja oli osallistunut talvi- ja jatkosotaan. Pappi kertoi, että tämä on hyvin suosittu marssi veteraanin hautajaisissa. Siinä tilaisuudessa marssi sopi kuin nenä päähän.
agaton2009 1 year ago
swe sux
asalminen1968 1 year ago
Sweden and Finland have had the same prospects for at least 500 years. This is something like hudreds of generatulul. Krrhm... Oradea. Grosswardein. Big (or old)Varadzin. Hungary, under Romanian jurisdictioin. Finn
Kissinpoika 1 year ago
Toivottavasti saan tämän saaton viimeiselle matkalleni.
piraan2 1 year ago
Tämän pitää soida munkin hautajaisissani...
brakbatt 1 year ago
Swedish text:
Viken, tidens flyktiga minnen!
Stundens fröjder, bleknen, försvinnen!
Natten nedsteg på våra sinnen,
och för skuggorna är vår sång.
Hågkomst av de framfarna dagar,
som oss eldar och oss anklagar!
Gråa gäst, som ej tid försvagar,
följe ditt allvar vår dunkla gång!
pulverapa 1 year ago 5
veikko-sedän muistolle, joka haudattiin viime perjantaina, kahden sodan veteraanille, paappani veljelle!..
umpisuoli87 1 year ago 14
Ok.. a translation to english.. just a hobby, not a linguistic..
"Throw away all memories and time!
cover all pale moments of joy!
Dark night covers us all,
only shadows shall hear us sing!
Memory of time that's pass us by,
Light our souls, excel to win!
Strange grey of our time to come,
carrying with us mourn of this land"
<3 Love to all!
serubbaabel 1 year ago
Die sind schon längst alle wieder da und kämpfen weiter für die Befreiung Europas von der jüdisch-islamischen Subversion und von den Amis vorgesehenen Zwangsherrschaft über uns alle hier! 88!!!
sjokolade777 1 year ago
if someone should go with your facts they would think we are all finns in scandinavia. FFS.
and this is a irish folksong taken by us swedes and played at the battle of Narva, but more upbeat, then later during the 1800's nationalism given lyrics.
now finland use it but have cut some of the lyrics which where about swedish kings.
Borin81 1 year ago
@Borin81
Those kings were our kings too. Finland was since the end of the Vinking era when the Kindom of Sweden borned half Sweden to 1809. How many wars Sweden has had since finnish guys did not any more fight in your army. (ZERO). Finnish people from Savo populated North Sweden forest rich areas from Tornio River Valley to Värmland and parts of Norway too. South Sweden (Skåne) was before North Denmark. Your royal family then is a pathetic bourgeois french family without royal roots.
GBOY69GAY 1 year ago
sure, but that dont make us all finns now? and i didnt ask for frog kings, that was way before my time, nothing much to do about it, and the current king is A-OK in my books.
also, GBOY69GAY? Tom of Finland inspiration?
Borin81 1 year ago
@GBOY69GAY Fennoskandiaan kuulumme.
Skandinaavisten maiden kielet ovat suunilleen samanlaisia.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja Ei Skandinavia ole kielialue vaan maantieteellinen alue. Etsi kartalta Skandinavian niemimaa. Maat, joilla on maata Skandinavian niemimaalla, ovat Norja, Suomi ja Ruotsi. Ruotsin, Norjan, Tanskan ja Islannin kielet kuuluvat germaaniseen kieliperheeseen. Ruotsin täytyy antaa Skåne takaisin, jotta Tanska olisi osa Skandinaviaa. Maailmalla Skandinaviaan luetaan Suomi, Ruotsi, Norja, Tanska ja Islanti hyvin samankaltaisen kultuurin vuoksi.
GBOY69GAY 1 year ago
@GBOY69GAY Ei ole samankaltainen kulttuuri.
Ehkä Norjalla ja Ruotsilla. Mutta ei Suomella.
Suomi kuuluu Fennoskandiaan sillä siisti.
Asiasta on kiistelty jo paljon.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja
Onks ruotsalaiset aivopesseet sut. Yleisesti maailmalla Skandinavian maiksi luetaan. Suomi, Ruotsi, Norja, Tanska ja Islanti. Okei, sun ajattelulla sitten ainoat Skandinavian maat on Ruotsi ja Norja. Tanska ja Islanti eivät missään nimessä voi olla myöskään mikään osa Skandinaviaa, koska kumpikaan maa ei edes maantieteellisesti sijaitse Skandinavian alueella. Osa Suomea sentään sijaitsee. Tanska on osa läntistä Keski-Eurooppaa ja Islanti on saari Pohjois- Atlantilla
GBOY69GAY 1 year ago
@GBOY69GAY Niin kuin Qlasettaja jo sanoi, asiasta on jo kiistelty moneen otteeseen, mutta fakta on että Suomi on Fennoskandiaa ja sillä sipuli.
Mitä taas tulee maailman ajattelu tapaan, kyllä liitäntä tehdään historian takia enemmän kuin kultturiselta pohjalta. Tai jos kultturi sotketaan niin sehän vain tarkoittaa etteivät arvon meren takaiset ystävämme ymmärrä Suomen ja muiden Poholan maiden eroa.
Arkticus 1 year ago
@Arkticus
Sähän puhut ihan sekavia ja ristiin. Historialliselta pohjalta Suomi vasta Skandinaviaan kuuluukin. Mene takaisin historian tunnille. Huomaat pian, että Suomen alue oli viikinkiajan päättymisestä ja yhtenäisen Ruotsin kuningaskunnan synnystä lähtien aina vuoteen 1809 noin puolet Ruotsin kantavaltakunnan maa-alueesta. Historialliset Skandinavian kuningaskunnat taas olivat Ruotsi ja Tanska. Norja ja Suomi syntyivät nationalismin myötä myöhemmin.
GBOY69GAY 1 year ago
@GBOY69GAY Ja entäs ennen vuotta 1323? Eikö Suomea ja suomalaisia muka ole ollut olemassa ennen Ruotsin ja Novgorodin sopimusta? Valtio nimeltä Suomi syntyi vasta 1917, mutta Suomi on ollu täällä siitä asti kun ensimmäiset finno-ugri kansat tänne pääsivät viime jääkauden jälkeen.
Eihän Tunisiaa, Egyptäa tai nykyistä Turkin aluettakaan lasketa Euroopaksi vaikka nuo alueet olivat melkein Rooman alaisuudessa sukupolvien ajan. Miten siis Fennoskandia ja Suomi olisi yllättäen sama kuin Skandinavia?
Arkticus 1 year ago
@Arkticus
Suomen kieli on finno-ugrinen, mutta suomalaiset ei. Suomalaiset muuttivat Länsi-Euroopasta. Pieni joukko finno-ugreja tuli tyhjään Suomeen ennen paljon suurempaa joukkoa germaaneja, jotka saapuivat vuosisatojen aikana, mikä aiheutti Suomen kieliparadoksin, kun germaanit omaksuivat jo täällä olleen kielen. Suomalaiset on noin 70% germaaneja ja loput on muuta eurooppalaista geenistöä, sukulaiskansat löytyvät Belgian flaameista ja hollantilaisista.
GBOY69GAY 1 year ago
@GBOY69GAY: Suomeksi sanotaan suomalais-ugrilainen, ei finno-ugrinen. :)
MrHenneri 1 year ago
Scandinavian? I'm no scandinavian.I'm fennoscandian 100% Made in Finland
TaraKea 1 year ago
tämän kappaleen koskettavuus ja tunne sydämessä Suomalaisella ei koskaan muutu. Uhrauksien kautta suuri voitto, ja ne uhraukset ja uhrit saavat oskaseen sen kunnioituksen ja jalon arvon joka heille kuuluu! Nostan hattuani, kumarran ja annan kyynelien virrata,...
Pallisss 1 year ago
tuli pappan hautajaiset mieleen. Tämä soi kun nukkuvaa sotainvalidia kannettiin hautausmaalle
markuzh 1 year ago
best marssi in the world thanks for finland haj
tompa666 1 year ago
Tätä hienoa surumarssia on soitettu usean suomalaisen suurmiehen hautajaisissa. Kuvaa minusta hienosti lähdön hetken raskautta mutta pientä toivoa paremmasta ajasta raskaan menetyksen jälkeen. Omistan osaltani tämän kappaleen kaikille suomalaisille sotilaille, jotka puolustivat isänmaata Talvi- ja Jatkosodassa huolimatta pelosta, väsymyksestä, toverien kuolemasta ja unenpuutteesta.
kkarppi2 1 year ago 7
hell yeah
asalminen1968 1 year ago
Sorry, I haven´t read all the commentaries. But the ones referring to a lost battle of Narva are slightly wrong. Narva was won by the Swedish-Finnish army.
But is the really a march? It is usually played in Uppsala as the music of Eric Gustaf Geijers famous poem 30 november 1818 "Viken tidens flyktiga minnen". The composer of the music is Haeffner.
torstenhenrik 2 years ago
Well, sure it is not a happy march:-) It is more like a mourning thing, a dead march. And Estonia still has Narva, lets see how long, because there are certain people in power, who don't like independent Estonia.
lollikemimulus 2 years ago
You mean in Russia,You have NATO and EU.We have only EU and some 1200 km common bordier against Russia .Anyway,we will never ever be left alone again!
m1947n 2 years ago 3
Russia is of course a major threat to both Finland and the rest of Scandinavia. However...the EU poses an even greater threat to ALL nations of Europe. Our nations aren't sovereign no more and our individual freedoms are being eroded by the EU. If you love your country, as I love mine, you should oppose the EU with all your might.
Nationalisten 2 years ago
Nationalisten:
Those russian cocksuckers are a eternal threat to all around them as long there are living sick bastards to russian fucks. Sterilize them all so it ain't are born any more of them.
Carol1lilja 1 year ago 2
I am not agree with you, there are people who dont like nationalistic movement in estonia and discrimination of russians, but no one wants Estonia to be not independent! I know the real situation, coz I am from Narva.
mishastiks 2 years ago
This March is named after the battle of Narva where it was played in this battle of Narva in 1700 according to an oral tradition. The first known notation dates back to 1798, where it is called March, used when Charles XII aproached Narva. During the day of the battle there was a thick snow blizzard, so it is natural that a battle march was a slow march, so that the lines would remain united until the ssault.
pinomaus07 2 years ago 2
this march givesx me somewhat of the same feelings as the song of the french foreiglegion. also a slow, smewhat dramatic song, wonderful...
sebas379 2 years ago 3
Or is he Dyben?
m1947n 2 years ago
@torstenhenrik . Jag vet inte, men idag bettyder detta song, sorgen. jad kan inte så god svenska, Ja försöker allehand. Allt bra för dig!
1404094 2 years ago
Correct. Geijer wrote this song in commemoration of Charles XII:s death in Norway, not his brilliant victory at Narva. I guess that is why the song is so sad. I do not know why the Finns call this Narvan Marssi. The battle of Narva was an occasion for happiness, not grief.
groffe12 1 year ago 2
I've read that during of the battle of Narva there was snow storm. And it the band should play slow march, not quick one. Snow storm was quite heavy cause 20 00 Russians escape from city and they didn't realize that attachers were only couple of thousands Finns,
enizbib 1 year ago
Finns? Swedes i thought?
salesman990 1 year ago
@salesman990
The Army was Swedish but the troops were Finns
enizbib 1 year ago 17
@enizbib Actually, there where no "Finns" during the imperial era. Finland was two almost solely Swedish speaking regions in what today is south western Finland. Almost everyone in present day Finland (excluding Lappland) spoke Swedish and where both nationally and internationally considered Swedes, in fact more "pure" Swedish than, for instance, Scanians. There where however Karelians which spoke a Finnish accent and where not considered proper Swedes.
ChetzNation 9 months ago
@ChetzNation troll
lolzer93 7 months ago
@lolzer93 Just read my two other posts. I've got a Ph.D. in history so I believe you're the troll here.
ChetzNation 7 months ago
@ChetzNation I don't give a flying rat's ass what grade you got in history troll
lolzer93 7 months ago
@lolzer93 Grade? Ph.D. is a degree. Doctor of Philosophy if you did not know that. Karl XII:s march vid Narva is but another proof of the awkward truth about the history of what you call Finland.
ChetzNation 7 months ago
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lolzer93 7 months ago
@lolzer93 What I find repulsive is that you're mis-taught in grounds school and taught to hate Swedes although we where the same people once.
ChetzNation 7 months ago
@ChetzNation i graduated ground school in sweden. troll !! worst school system in the world
lolzer93 7 months ago
@lolzer93 Well it sure is! But why am I a troll?
ChetzNation 7 months ago
@ChetzNation And who mistaught you to think that? If anything, Swedes and Sweden have always had a very favourable image portrayed in official histories and in other education. We were in the same kingdom once, but Finns and Swedes have always been separate nations. The fact that a Finnish national consciousness does not change the fact of their separate language, culture, origin, etc.
wilpuri24 6 months ago
@wilpuri24 It should read: "The fact that a Finnish national consciousness developed relatively late". :)
wilpuri24 6 months ago
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@wilpuri24 @wilpuri24 Okay first of all, what you call "Finns" and "Finland" did not exist until 1809.
en . wikipedia . org / wiki / Finland_Proper_(historical_province)
Finland Proper was a solely Swedish speaking region. There was never a "Finnish" nation or one "Finnish" people before Sweden.
en . wikipedia . org / wiki / %C3%96sterland
until the Russians unified several old Swedish regions and named them Finland there was no such thing as one "Finnish" people.
ChetzNation 6 months ago
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@ChetzNation what ever dr.phil of sweden but you are still a troll
lolzer93 7 months ago
@enizbib ...I'd like to point out that several other Finno-Ugric Baltic ethnicities existed at the time, like Estonians, Livonians, and Courlanders. However, most of these where reduced to extinction by the Bolsheviks. In 1705, 17% of the populace of present day "Finland", could only speak Swedish. And there where hardly any east-Swedes that didn't speak the language. After the separation, neo-nationalist "Finns", strongly supported by the people, re-introduced Finnish as the main Language.
ChetzNation 9 months ago
@ChetzNation
enizbib 9 months ago
@ChetzNation
So nice that the historia of Sweden (Finland) interested you too.
But Sweden get the other Finno-Ugric countries after 1600.
Now I live in Estonia, in Tallinn this city is build by danish. Some weeks ago I was Narva and there I see theese actually places.
Sorry my English is even much bad than usually.
I'm learning Eastonian now.
enizbib 9 months ago
@ChetzNation
You are quite right but it was 1333 when there were first peace between Russian and Sweden.
You know the three crowns, nobody really knows where they come from.
But there were more than 1/3 inhabitans of Sweden in Finland. And 50% of soldiers come from Finland.
Of course most of soldiers in wars in Deuchland, Danmark, and Polland were ordinary local soldiers and they were paid in cash.
There were no Swedish speakin Österland never.
enizbib 9 months ago
@ChetzNation
Several king of Sweden get a lot of support from Finland, Gustav Vasa, for example. Thinks could be different in Sweden without Finland.
I can't say lot of from the about the year11:46 1.5.2011 of 1705. Maybe it´s accurate, I really belive that there were real need to calculate people in 1705. But then almost all Finns were live occupied areas. Quite difficult even Swedes go and ask their language.
Because Peter the Great has starting to build St. Petersbug.
enizbib 9 months ago
@enizbib Now, you might be thinking "What was there instead of Finland?"
The northern part of Finland was a part of Swedish Norrland. Åland was a part of Svealand. Finnish Karelia was a part of Karelia. And the last, and largest, part was called Österland. Apart from Karelia, these where all parts of Sweden Proper. In the separation, Russia took half of Norrland, parts of Svealand, and Österland, and made the former Swedish regions a part of the Grand duchy of Finland; hence the name.
ChetzNation 9 months ago
@ChetzNation
I can't say lot of from the about the year11:46 1.5.2011 of 1705. Maybe it´s accurate, I really belive that there were real need to calculate people in 1705. But then almost all Finns were live occupied areas. Quite difficult even Swedes go and ask their language.
Because Peter the Great has starting to build St. Petersbug.
1700 talet Russians occupied Finland many times.
Until they took it finally.
The Winter palace in St. Peterburg, founded over a 10 Finnsh houses.
enizbib 9 months ago
@enizbib St Petersburg is built on the remains of Finns and slaves (all senses), and I say this only as a matter of fact.
itapirkanmaa 8 months ago
@ChetzNation correction; Grand Duchy of Finland had already been founded in 1581, and many Swedish kings and/or their heirs held the title of "Grand Duke of Finland" (or as some sources call the title, "Grand Prince of Finland", in Finnish the title never changed between the 1581 and 1917) before Czar Alexander I of Russia claimed the title in 1809, the first king to hold the title was king John III of Sweden, before 1577 the equal title was 'just' "Duke of Finland"
dimapez 6 months ago
@dimapez Yes indeed but the grand Duchy did not include Karelia or Norrland or Åland or any other of those regions... So what kind of "correction" are you talking about?
ChetzNation 6 months ago
@ChetzNation Firstly... there was no independent Finland un till 1917. Secondly: Finland was part of Sweden proper, that is, it was an essential (and original) part of the historical "Rigedom av Sverige" or "Major Sweden" from year ~1250 AD onwards. However, during that time Finland's situation can be considered as a semi-independent. This ended 1599 in "Turku (Åbo) bloodbath" when many of the Finnish high nobility were executed.
PjotorFI 5 months ago
@ChetzNation
Yes, Swedish kings had the title "Grand Principality of Finland or Grand Duchy of Finland". Had this any actual meaning except in the ceremonies? Probably not after 1599 but... The big but is that the area of the Grand Principality of Finland was also governed by the bishop of Turku (Åbo) and populated mainly by Finnish speaking people. So, in a way Finland was a part of Sweden proper, in a way it was not.
PjotorFI 5 months ago
@ChetzNation
"Yes indeed but the grand Duchy did not include Karelia or Norrland or Åland..." Iam not sure about Å. but where have you find that (Finnish) "Karelia" or "Norrland" were not part of Finland? Look the "Map of Grand Duchy of Finland" made by Andreas Bureus in 1622. There are a) G. Duke's coat of arms (of "Finlandia")...
PjotorFI 5 months ago
@ChetzNation... b) Duke's coat of arms of "Finl. merid."(South Finland; that is, Finland proper, Varsinais-Suomi), "Finl. sept."(Satakunta),"Tavastia"(Häme)and "CARELIA" (Karelia or Karjala), c) Count's coat of arms of "Savolaxia" (Savo), "Nylandia" (Nyland, Uusimaa) and CAIANIA.
PjotorFI 5 months ago
@ChetzNation "Caiania" was and is area in the W coast of Finland. Its nothern border was ~ Kemi -river. Caiania can be translated in Finnish as Kainuu but its synonym is "Pohjanmaa". Correct English translation for "Pohjanmaa" is Northland, in Swedish Norrland ("pohja" is north, "maa" is land).
PjotorFI 5 months ago
@ChetzNation So in fact in “Major Sweden” there was two "Norrlands": one in Finnish side, one in Swedish side. Minor Swedes can claim their rights to their Norrland but it is totally miss leading claiming Finnish side of the "Norrland", Pohjanmaa, as a part of Minor Sweden's Norrland. And by the way, they were Birkarler, pirkkalaiset, who first taxed Lappish people in Norrland and Lappland for the Swedish crown. And they came from Finnish side.
PjotorFI 5 months ago
@salesman990 Over 40% of Swedish army (cavarly, elite tropps) were Finnish.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
joo, niinpäs olikin, mutta tuo lumisade-juttu kuitenkin pitää paikkansa.
gallenkallela 2 years ago 3
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"The Finnish-Swedish army has lost the battle close to city of Narva, they are defeated and slowly retreat now and all the time slowly rain snow in to the ground". That why the flute playing major role in this march! (nowdays that battle place are close to Estonian border)
gallenkallela 2 years ago
Hölmö, nehän voitti kolminkertaista ylivoimaa vastaan..
elhutti 2 years ago 4
no on kyllä!
perinteinenvanilja 2 years ago
jo ajat sitten...tarkoitin
LasseL 2 years ago
Hyvä Suomi.
Neuvostoliito perseesen!!!!
perinteinenvanilja 2 years ago 6
mut eikös se Neuvostoliitto oo tungettu perseeseen ja ajat sitten?
LasseL 2 years ago 5
isoisäni siirtyi tänään ajasta iäisyyteen. tämä laulu saa minut kyyneliin muistellessani häntä.
FINhenu 2 years ago 3
osanottoni
dimapez 2 years ago
Osanottoni FINhenu,...kyyneleet myötä.
SL4Q92W 2 years ago
osaanottoni.Pappalle tai vaarille arvoinen kappale.
F7i7n7a7l 2 years ago 5
Why did finland use a Swedish song as their funeral song?
SvitjodsKrigare 2 years ago
This is original Irish song,
FinlandicaKing 2 years ago 2
At the time of this song Finland was a part of Sweden: as a matter of fact, a colony of Sweden (between about 1200-1809).
forestman48 2 years ago
this is not swedish song, it is irish 1700 th military march song
LordCanook 2 years ago
Tää on vissiin Kustaa kolomanen ajoilta.Ei kai Kaarlella Narvassa sentään mittään hovisäveltäjää ollu.Helevetin hyvä!
m1947n 2 years ago
Miespolvet vaipuvat unholaan. Muistakaa, heille kallis oli tämä maa.
BeyondWrittenWords 2 years ago 10
KIITOS
SL4Q92W 2 years ago
This is a Swedish march song right?
SvitjodsKrigare 2 years ago 3
Correct. Originally used by Swedish forces (or Swedes and Finnish, as we Finns like to remind at times) at Charles XII's advance in Narva.
jratava 2 years ago 5
I don´t get it. Narva was a great victory for Sweden/Finland, why compose a sad funeralmarch in it´s honor?
jompadompa 2 years ago 5
The march is slow because it was snowing during the battle, so the lines would not have held together if the march were quick. I assume that the arrangement as a funeral march happened around the 100th anniversary of Charles XII's death, though I don't have real sources for that besides the 'net. The Swedish lyrics begin "Viken, tidens flyktiga minnen".
jratava 2 years ago 3
according sources I have you're right in every aspect.
dimapez 2 years ago
look at the wikipedia and you see where this song gomes, i know you swedish own hole world put not this song!
LordCanook 2 years ago
A salute to the Scandinavians, who despite a tiny population, showed the world true military might.
From your Baltic brethren, the Prussians.
Schmidtah 2 years ago 77
@Schmidtah ''Fennoscandinavian'' Finland belong to Fennoscandia.
But thanks anyway=)
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja
Finland surely is a part of Scandinavia if Denmark is. The only coutries, which own land on Scandinavian peninsula are Norway, Sweden and Finland. Denmark and Iceland have no land on the Scandinavian peninsula area. So Finland surely is a part of Scandinavia, because part of Finland is on the area of Scandinavian peninsula. Denmark and Iceland are not part of Scandinavia what comes geography.
GBOY69GAY 1 year ago
@Schmidtah Oh yes and only military might nowdays in Northern Europe is Finland.
Qlasettaja 1 year ago
@Qlasettaja: Hurr durr nationalism. You're all Scandinavians to me.
Schmidtah 1 year ago
@Schmidtah
Scandinavians? Don´t try to steal our glory for your swedish and norwegian brethren. Finland fought alone and at the same time formed a wall that protected the rest of scandinavia as well as Finland.
Swedes have betrayed us every change they got.
Maverick110290 1 year ago
@Maverick110290
Don't care about Schmidtah, he's just an ignorant fool. But for the record: Sweden have Never betrayed Finland. Sweden lost Finland in the disastrous "Finnish war". It's remarkable that many Finns demanded that a Swedish entry the winter war, on what basis? Sweden helped Finland as much as they could (and so much more). Unfortunately many Finns of today are too blindfolded to realize that. We do not expect you to be grateful, but at least not intolerable...
CmJH 1 year ago
@CmJH Actually you have...During our civil war you took over Åland i would say that would be betraying don't you think?
But in ww2 Sweden as coverment didin't helped us much but finnish (like me) ARE gratefull of all help they got. so pls don't say that we are "intolerable" but you didn t do as much as you could have...
MrHirosaki 1 year ago
@CmJH You are right. Sweden helped Finland in many ways, our schools don`t tell anything about this aim and that is one reason why the teenagers don´t undestand Your poin of view.
Vanhaeno 1 year ago
@Schmidtah Not scandinavians, Finns were who fought.
kaahaajaFIN 1 year ago
@kaahaajaFIN: There were Swedish and Norwegian volunteers. It would not be fair to forget them.
Schmidtah 1 year ago 3
@Schmidtah Yeah there was, but officially Finland was abandoned. Finland got about 15 000 volunteers in total but for an example Sweden promised to help Finland if Finland would've gotten into war, but what happened? Only 8000 volunteers came (and many of those Swedens-finns, when they had the potential of sending hundreds of thousands soldiers to Finland as they promised. Finland had about 400 000 men fighting there plus 15 000 volunteers so they didnt help as much as they could have.
kaahaajaFIN 1 year ago
@kaahaajaFIN
Finland was NOT abandoned, don't forget that sweden more or less empted her weapon stockpiles making her unable to defend for her self so the her brothers on the other side of the baltic sea could stand up against the aggressor. I am truly sorry for my countrys actions, not standing up for Finland but as I see it we couldent because of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.
PS
And please remember the Estonias how fought and died for Finland.
erketjetter 1 year ago 6
@Schmidtah umm theres no such country as prussia anymore....
darnjack0roll 1 year ago
@Schmidtah Although, we Finns are not a part of Scandinavia :)
kurkkucom 1 year ago
@Schmidtah Yeah well the Prussians Kicked there fair share of ass aswell.
rifal004 1 year ago
@Schmidtah Not Scandinavia, only Finland. Damn Swedes didn't do shit except played ping pong and sucked were having a party the Swedish way.
MGSoldier 9 months ago
@Schmidtah Not Scandinavians, only Finns. Swedes didn't do shit, they were playing ping pong and having fun the Swedish way. Norway got pwned right away as did the Danes.
MGSoldier 9 months ago
@MGSoldier That is bs. Alot people came from Sweden and Norway to help out the Finnish people in the war! Also alot children was sent to Sweden while the war was going. So they did do "shit"
leibakki 9 months ago
@leibakki Mä en nää sitä hirveän paljona. Enkä ole pahemmin edes muistaakseni kuullut norjalaisten "avusta".
Svenskat ja norskit ole kiväärejä nähnytkään.
MGSoldier 9 months ago
@MGSoldier Ihan sama miten sä sen näet, todellisuus on eri. Ruotsalaisista ja norjalaisista oli suuri apu Suomelle ja sodissa voi myös auttaa muullakin kuin kivääreillä.
leibakki 9 months ago
@leibakki Joo, no meidän "todellisuudet" on sitten myöskin erilaiset.
MGSoldier 9 months ago
@MGSoldier Joo, mutta noista asioita ei hirveesti vois kiistellä. Voit kiistellä niiden apujen vähäisyydestä, mutta en silti kuvailis jollekkin ulkomaalaiselle niitä "shit"
leibakki 9 months ago
@leibakki Ei sun todellisuus kovin hyvältä vaikuta, kun perustat historian aatteesi Kummeliin.
leibakki 9 months ago
@leibakki Joo, en muistaakseni kysynytkään miten itse kuvailisit asian.
MGSoldier 9 months ago
@MGSoldier Et myöskään kysynyt mielipidettäni huonoon kommentiisi, vastasin silti. Kukaan historiaa tunteva täysjärkinen ei voi kuvailla tuota apua as shit.
leibakki 9 months ago
@leibakki Jos olisi ollut suuri apu, olisi siitä kuullut aika paljon paskaa. Minä en koskaan muista kuulleeni hiiskaustakaan norjalaisten avusta. Svenssonien lapsien sijoittelusta olen kuullut, mutta vähät itse siitä välitän.
MGSoldier 9 months ago
@MGSoldier Ehkä sitten olisi pitänyt kuunnella historian tunneilla paremmin. Talvisodassa Suomeen tuli noin 11000 (mahd. enemmän) ulkomaalaista auttamaan ja näistä suurin osa oli ruotsalaisia vapaaehtoisia jotka ottivat osaa taisteluihin. Myös Ruotsin ilmavoimat auttoivat Suomen puolustuksessa.
leibakki 9 months ago
@Schmidtah Well actually Scandinavians did nothing sensational, Finnish people did
okapuz 9 months ago
@okapuz: The Vikings, the Swedes, and the Finns all had their times of military glory. All of which are quite impressive.
Schmidtah 9 months ago
Joo... Alunperinhän tämä on voiton marssi ja soitettukkin hieman eri iskutuksella ja temmolla, kuin nykyään. Jossain vaiheessa sitten muuttui hieman hitaammaksi ja soinniltaan kauniimmaksi sekä tunteikkaamaksi
Boutti 2 years ago 9
+++
Erkele 2 years ago 3
Mulla on ikava Suomea.
vkaplas 3 years ago 45
samoin..
umpisuoli87 2 years ago
@vkaplas
Samoin. Nyt on ollut jo siit' lähtien kun astuin lentokoneeseen josta lähdettiin asumaan ulkomaille.
miekka968 10 months ago
Kaunis sävelmä, kuulostaa hautajaissoitolta. Se loppuu kesken, ikävä kyllä. Tunnen melodian. "Tuhkasta meidän on luotava maa, muut vaan menkööt merten taa.".
Päivi
Svansakuten 3 years ago 4
No,Kainuu erikseen.
Outoa,että voitetun taistelun jälkeen matkalla Pultavaan.
Jonka jälkeen rohkea kuninkaamme pakeni Ottomaanien suojaan jättäen armeijansa Pietarin hellään syleilyyn.
m1947n 3 years ago
Marssia soitettiin Kaarle XII:n joukkojen hyökätessä venäläisten asemiin Narvassa. Tämä marssi oli sopiva siksi, että sen tahti sopi niihin olosuhteisiin (lumisade), jossa tämä taistelu käytiin. Näkyvyys oli heikko ja maasto luminen, joten jotta Kaarlen armeijan rivit saattin pysymään järjestyksessä, piti marssin olla tarpeeksi hidastempoinen. Narvan marssin toinen nimi on Kaarle XII:n marssi Narvassa. Pultavan taistelu hävittiin muuten vasta vuosia myöhemmin...
wovaapeli 3 years ago 5
Kuulkaa korpeimme kuiskintaa...
Ei kainuulainen sisu ole minnekään kadonnut, pelolla (?) odottaa vain uutta invaasiota, jääräpäisesti puolustaudumme jopa Turkua vastaan, puhumattakaan Leningradista tai Philadelphiasta -);
kosketa 2 years ago
Soi Ehnroothin hautajaisissa. Itse asiassa on yleinen surumarssi
Sorstalan 3 years ago 5
Aatu halusi hautajaisiinsa saman kappaleen, joka soi silloin kun hänen suuresti ihailemaansa Mannerheimiä saateltiin viimeiselle matkalle.
Mananmatti 2 years ago 5
Narvan Marssi soitetaan aina valtiollisissa hautajaisissa
zippouz 2 years ago 12
Vahvistaen edellistä..
Jokeripoks81 2 years ago
sanat: Herkkäin muistoin tieltä nyt taivu!
Hetken riemu kalveten haivu!
Synkkyys yön meidän mieliin vaivu,
kun nyt varjoille lauletaan!
Aatos, mi menneihin vuosihin johtaa,
soimaa meitä ja intoon hohtaa.
Vieras, aikaa mi uhmin kohtaa.
Kolkkohon seuraan nyt tulkoon vaan!
zippouz 3 years ago 7
12.1 säkylä ^^
oOiMuGiOo 3 years ago
Isoisäni joutui väijytykseen Syvärillä.
Saamarin Iivana ampui laittomilla, räjähtävillä ammuksilla. Ukolta meni käden toimintakyky ja ruumis päi helv.
Kuhlfurst 3 years ago 7
Never mind the history of the song. It's one of the most touching, SAD pieces I've ever heard. Makes me think of my grandfathers, who both were in the Finnish Civil War of 1918 as teenagers, and then at the front in the Winter War, and behind the lines in the Continuation War. We owe them all so much.
mopsi987 3 years ago 6
kahdeksan kymmenestä minun suvun miehestä(17v-) tuli kenkälaatikossa junaasemalle,pohjanmaalle,kotiin. Ja näistä kahdesta jotka eivät ole palanneet, ei vieläkään tiedetä mitään.
saapasmanne 3 years ago 4
on niitä keräyksiä ollut jo vuosikymmeniä. mutta aina ei ole ollut "poliittisesti yhtä korrektia" kertoa niistä. onneksi nyt on toisin.
ekatube 3 years ago 3
Mun ukki ja sen 2 veljeä oli talvi-ja jatkosodassa mun ukki tais pelastaa veljensä hengen jatkosodassa ja talvi sodas se ansaitsi vapaudenristin pelastettuaa ryhmänsä viholli linjojen takaa
suomi117 3 years ago 3
hieno marssi ja kaikki kunnia vapautemme voittaneille! levätkää rauhassa, me otamme nyt poliittisen paskan vastuullemme
asalminen1968 3 years ago 2
paljon jäi miehiä rajan taa. isoisän 3 veljeä kaatui ja kaksi jäi rajan taa. toinen heistä kuoli synnyinkotinsa pihalle muolaassa kesällä 1944. kahtena vuonna olen käynyt kyseisellä sukuni synnyinsijalla, ja aina on viety kukkasia talon vanhan kaivon kannelle...
FINhenu 3 years ago 6
Se on hyvä että niitä veteraaneille kerättyjä rahoja pihdataan viimeiseen asti. Kukas pankkiiri tai neuvos ne perii sitten kun veteraaneja ei enää ole?
ChrisStavros 3 years ago
Hei joomoi87,
kiitos kommentista. Kylla mielestani kaikki niin talvi- kuin jatkosodassa kaatuneetkin ovat Suomen sankareita ja heille kuuluu hatunnosto ja kunnia. Kun asuin viela Suomessa, oli tapanani antaa sotaveteraanien keraykseen joka vuosi ainakin vahan rahaa, vaikka olisin kuinka itse ollut peeaa ja koyha opiskelija. Luojan kiitos Suomessa puhutaan yha suomea ja meilla on oma kulttuuri!
vkaplas 3 years ago 4
Kyllä olet oikeassa kyllä pitää jokaisen meistä laittaa se vaikka viikonlopun riento summa niille jotka oikeesti mahdollisti sen että täällä puhutaan suomea ja kaikilla turvallinen ja hyvä olo
Nannu65 3 years ago
asepalvelus alkaa reilun viikon päästä, kyllä siellä nyt se 362vrk pitää olla, jos ei suurempia haavereita käy tai muuten esty, kyllä nyt ainakin sen on suomalainen nuori mies velkaa.
dimapez 3 years ago 6
Ja opiskelu alusta loppuun ilmaista.
Näitten ristien alta tämä oikeus on saatu.
m1947n 3 years ago 2
Miksi toi Sotiemme veteraanit keräys järjestettiin veteraanien hyväksi vasta nyt, kun heitä ei enään montaa ole?? Huh huh...
zamorakguy 3 years ago 4
tosi nätti:) kunnia veteraaneille!!!
sonQ94 3 years ago 3
Muuten, mista tama kuva on? Tietaako joku? Isoisani kaatui Syvarilla jatkosodassa ja ryssat rakensivat tien hautansa yli... En haluaisi olla katkera, mutta jyrsii.
vkaplas 3 years ago 4
sen uskon. ryssät on sikoja...
Finnishman19 3 years ago 5
pitää muistaa et noihin aikoihin vihollinen ei ollut ihmisen veroinen.
PS. Kunnia isoisällesi ja muille kaatuneille ja myöhemmin kuolleille sankareille että taisteli/suojeli Suomen maata hengellään ja verellään. SALUT
ThyyQ 3 years ago 2
Olettaisin että jostain Karjalan suunnalta.
Tulee aina kylmiä väreitä tätä kuunnellessa, kun muistelen isoisääni, joka kaatui myös Syvärille konekiväärinsä päälle =(
KUNNIA KAATUNEILLE!
joomoi87 3 years ago 5
isoisän isä kaatui tarkka-ampujan räjähtävän luodin repiessä keuhkot Sortavalan valtauksen alussa.
dimapez 3 years ago 4
7. divisioona, "Kalpa", Savon ja Karjalan miehistä alueellisesti koottu divisioona, divisioonan tappiot sodassa toiseksi suurimmat.
dimapez 3 years ago 2