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When it comes to domestic issues I tend to agree with Ron Paul, when it comes to his foreign policy he begins making up complete lies to justify his position. Then when he went out of his way to begin quoting Bin Laden (lying through omission in the process) and defending the Iranian nuclear program (who are also the number 1 killer of Americans pre and post 9/11) is when Ron Paul went from being someone who stood for principle to being borderline traitor. Everyone vote against Ron Paul.
@zurp5 An example of a Ron Paul lie is when he said during the Iowa debate that there is no evidence the Iranians are trying to obtain a nuclear bomb and went on to say that is what the CIA told him. That is a 100% lie from Ron Paul. If you wish to discuss it I can produce more than enough information showing that Ron Paul is lying.
@knight4justice He actually said that the CIA shows that there is no concrete evidence that the Iranians are building on their nuclear bomb. He then goes on to say that many, many countries have nuclear bombs. Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb is of no threat to Israel, who has thousands of nuclear weapons, nor us, who have too many to count and also have the capability to shoot bombs out of the air before they reach our borders. What else?
@zurp5 Rafsanjani said that if 20 million Iranians die destroying Israel it would be worth it. Rafsanjani is also considered a moderate by the West. There is plenty of evidence that Iran is trying to get a nuclear bomb. Ron Paul just lied to justify his position.
I suggest you go read up on the story of Imam Hussein and the Battle of Karbala and how it played into the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Iran is a major threat to Israel.
"My friends, you don’t need to do nation-building in Israel. We’re already built.
You don’t need to export democracy to Israel. We’ve already got it.
And you don’t need to send American troops to Israel. We defend ourselves."
-Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to Congress, May 24, 2011
And that's what the CIA had reported, so I hardly think Ron Paul was lying. Also it's recently come out that Iran already has nukes and has had them for awhile, so gone is that propaganda
@zurp5 I have never advocated nation building in Israel, nor have I advocated exporting democracy in Israel, nor have I advocated sending soldiers to Israel. I think that we need to stay good friends and work with them like we work with the British or Canadians. According to the Mullahs in Iran, Israel is the little satan and American is the Great Satan. A strong Israel means a safe America. Israel is the first line of defense for America.
@zurp5 If it has come out that Iran already has had nukes and has had them for a while then that just proves that Ron Paul lied to justify his position.
@knight4justice Ron Paul did not lie, he relayed info that the CIA had reported of showing no concrete evidence that Iran was working on a nuclear bomb. Ron Paul doesn't have the capability of looking for himself so he must have deemed the CIA most trustworthy in the ability to acquire that info. That said, the CIA wasn't even wrong in their claims; they reported no evidence of Iran working on a bomb, then a few weeks later I guess found evidence that they had already had them for some time
@zurp5 you are trying really hard to justify Ron Paul lying. Here is an article written by a former member of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards who worked for the CIA inside Iran.
He worked for the CIA and it shows that there is evidence from the CIA showing Iran is working on the bomb before Ron Paul lied during the Iowa debate. Ron Paul lied to justify his position.
@knight4justice That article is skewing Iranian actions to suggest they are planning nuclear attacks against us. You must see through this propaganda. It shows no evidence of nuclear arms construction. When testing the bombs, they alerted the American military that they were testing and allowed US spy planes to be present. They stated that this was to strengthen their deterrent power, a point Ron Paul was trying to make. And to cite their space program as a source of aggression is ridiculous.
@zurp5 the article also says that they have two nuclear warheads with 8 more expected to be delivered within the next 10 months and expect to arm themselves. Did you overlook that? This guy is former CIA and Islamic Revolutionary Guards and the article is dated before Ron Paul said that the CIA told him there is no evidence Iran is trying to obtain a nuke. This proves Ron Paul lied to justify his position but all you can do is character assassination against the author of the article.
@knight4justice Character assassination? What the hell are you talking about? I don't know the name of the author much less anything to attack him on. You're nuts. The big question at the time of the debate was if Iran was building a nuke. If there was concrete evidence that they already had some and were about to acquire more, the conversation would have been different, don't you think? Apparently the CIA didn't take this report as solid evidence. And you have no clue what they told Ron Paul
@zurp5 well you are sitting there calling the article propaganda then goes on and starts finding way to discredit the article without responding to my actual point. That is a type of character assassination.
and yes Iran was building a nuke at the time of the debate. Khomeini personally ordered the construction of a nuclear bomb.
Also the person who broke the story that Iran already has nukes, same person who wrote the article I posted. The CIA obviously take him seriously.
you also said "a" bomb. Why would Iran attack with "a" bomb when they can produce 60 nuclear bombs a year out of the Bushehr nuclear facility. Saying that just because they have one bomb therefore they wont do anything is just naive. Especially when it goes against everything they have ever said about their intentions of destroying Israel and America.
@knight4justice I just don't buy the war propaganda. I think we need to change our thinking about what other nations do. I think there is a lot of fear mongering going on.
I think the wars are taking our freedoms away. I think many people in America have forgotten that "freedom" not democracy and nation building is what made us great.
@dixiepassion the Iranians are the number one killer of Americans pre and post 9/11 and have been calling for our destruction for 32 years and have rejected every attempt at negotiations. Now that the Mullahs are calling for attacks on Saudi interests worldwide we have to face Iran. Our country will not survive $10 for a gallon of gas. Those are facts not propaganda. Ron Paul is just giving empty rhetoric and lying on his foreign policy.
@dixiepassion Iran created Hezbollah as proxies to colonize Lebanon. Look up the Marine bombing in Beirut, the Iranian created Hezbollah was the number one killer of Ameircans pre 9/11. Also go look up the Mahdi militia. They are the leader of Iraqi insurgency and their leader Al Sadr was studying Islamic theology in Qom Iran.
Article on Iran calling for attacks on Saudi interests, March 21, 2011
@knight4justice You are insane. Ron Paul tells you the honest truth unlike the mainstream media's bullshit. LOL number 1 killer of Americans ? America is the number one killer of Muslims ! Do some research, everything Paul says is spot on. The US is going the way of dictatorship and you don't even know it, its sad
@knight4justice You got your facts wrong, your entitled to your own interpretation. Its a shame, because you seem intelligent. Please check you're facts - your opinions I respect.
@knight4justice You can't vote against ron Paul - you can only vote FOR something or someone else. Do you suggest more of the same? Clamp down on liberty not hard enough for you? Drone bombings an innocent lives blow apart not bloody enough for you? Police state not menacing enough for you? Financial collapse not apocalyptic enough for you? What are you FOR? More of the same bloody useless financially bankrupt morally rubber like BS?
Vote Ron Paul for Peace, Liberty, Wisdom and Truth
@LookEvenDeeper I am a supporter of the Tea Party. I have joined them in protests. I do not want more of the same.
Also what facts do I have wrong? Go look into Irans support for Hezbollah, Mahdi Militia, Al Sadr, Taliban and more. Iran is the number one killer of Americans pre and post 9/11. Its a complete disgrace to America to have Ron Paul stand up there and defend the Iranians with complete lies.
@knight4justice He plainly said he didn't like Iran seeking nuclear weapons but he's against going to war with them over it. I'm not wanting to argue but I'd like to ask what your stance is? You agree with Ron Paul that you don't like it but are you wanting war with Iran or what? America's defense will suffer if we become insolvent. Paul is the ONLY one saying he'll quickly stop the bleeding. I know America incites much hatred toward us that results in terrorism.
@mrsparex My stance is support the Iranian people in rising up and overthrowing their government. After the Mullahs are out of power in Iran, that will stabalize countries like Bahrain, Iraq, Saudi Arabia. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt will lose much of their financing, the Syrian government will collapse, Hezbollah in Lebanon will collapse, the Taliban will lose their funding, we wont have to deal with Pakistan anymore let India take care of them, Islamic parties in Turkey will lose funding
@mrsparex once we do what I suggested in my previous comment, that will solve most of our problems in the Middle East then we can do a complete withdraw from the region (with the exception of having a few bases in Saudi Arabia). Just by supporting the Iranian people we wont have to start another war. Plus we wont ever have to fire a bullet. Any problems that come up after we leave, we can let the new Iranian government deal with because they will be our strongest ally in the region by then.
@knight4justice disagreeing with his foreign policy just means one thing for you, you love war. Your the late old fashion model, non updated version of an American, 2011 Americans all dislike any war
@jamezjr7979 the world is much more complicated than Ron Paul tries to make it look. We cant pull out of Saudi Arabia because we currently dont have enough oil rigs to support ourselves. Its going to take us at least 10 years to build enough to support ourselves and that is if we start today. Then its an extremely bad idea to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan because Iran is going to take over the countries through assassinations and use of proxies like Al Sadr. I dont love war.
@knight4justice You say we cant pull out, but whether your reasons are real, fake, legit, honest, or right on, it doesnt matter because we cant afford it, i can un-complicate it by saying WE DONT HAVE MONEY for it anymore, how do suggest we bypass that sir? only by barrowing more money? or printing more money ? or using 40%- 50% of our tax dollars for it which is a small pot now... what do u have to say to that sir?
@jamezjr7979 we cant produce enough oil for ourselves right now. Its going to take 10 years to make ourselves 100% self supported on our own oil. If we pull out of Saudi Arabia and the Iranians are successful in collapsing the Saudi Monarchy our country will not have enough gasoline for our vehicles. Our economy wont survive $10 for a gallon of gas. We HAVE to stay in Saudi Arabia and since Iran has been calling on attacks on Saudi interests worldwide since March, we have to face Iran
@knight4justice Yes i understand, even tho i disagree that we can just claim something that isnt ours, but thats another day, back to previous, Sir you still haven't answerd my simple question..*sighs*.. Where is the money coming from to fund this ?!?!?!?!?!??!
@jamezjr7979 in 1945 we made an agreement with Saudi Arabia, we will give them military protection if they give us oil. We also agreed that our oil companies will split the profits 50/50. We didnt claim it, we made a legitimate agreement with the Saudis. It was because of that treaty is why we were in the first Gulf War. We honored our word and came to the defense of Saudi Arabia. But it was also because we honored our word is when Osama began his Jihad on America. The world is very complex
@jamezjr7979 "Where is the money coming from to fund this"
We are borrowing money which I do not agree with. Cut the budget and cutting defense is just a dumb idea. Lets start with cutting Obamacare, defund the UN, stop giving money to countries like China, Iran, or the mythical Palestinians.
well you know sir you are in the minority when it comes down OR if it ever came down to do Major budget cuts to sustain the war, thats gonna be hard pill to swallow for people, to understand, cause BASICALLY you want to stop barrowing, and do budget cuts to sustain the war... 2012 election Theme is going to be Anti-War, and if there is cuts, the tax payers will want the money for our country
@jamezjr7979 people are going to have to swallow the pill. We HAVE to stay in the Middle East whether we like it or not. Obama promised to have us out of the Middle East and he still hasnt done nor has he closed Gitmo.
I want to do budget cuts to save America. We have to support the Saudis until we can make ourselves dependent on our own oil and Iran has been calling for attacks on Saudi interests worldwide since March. We dont have a choice, if u see another way please tell me.
@knight4justice - It's unfortunate you've been convinced of a lie by the war mongers in power, your listening to the wrong people. The choice you have is simple, you either vote for peace and liberty, or you vote for more war and more lies. You simply cannot have it both ways - please consider your choices carefully.
@LibertyorDeathAZ you cant have peace when the Mullahs ruling Iran dont want peace with America. They attacked our embassy with the intention of breaking off all diplomatic relations and have rejected every attempt at negotiations since 1979. The Mullahs wanted war with us right from the start. My vote is for reality. You can go vote for Ron Pauls delusional world that he cannot deliver on.
@knight4justice The US "superpower" has never forgiven the Iranian Islamic ayatollahs for the Iranian Revolution in the late 1970s, which overthrew the US puppet government and held hostage US embassy personnel, regarded as "a den of spies," while Iranian students pieced together shredded embassy documents that proved America's complicity in the destruction of Iranian democracy.
@LibertyorDeathAZ no we havent forgiven them because they have never apologized for it and they have never stopped their anti American rhetoric and their calls for the destruction of America. Plus the same person who said that the embassy was a den of spies, was also the same person who said the Iranian government did not organize the attack (which was a lie). Also if the Shah was a US puppet, can you point to one time the Shah did what was America's interests that hurt Iranian interests?
@knight4justice USA needs to repent immediately and pull troops from every other sovereign nation else it will soon be your turn to be bombed. Dr Ron Paul has the remedy - you are just too blind to see. Did you grow up watching television?
@AikenBruce if we pull out of Saudi Arabia, then the Saudi government will collapse and our gas prices will go to $10 a gallon. Its going to take us 10 years to get our oil rigs up and drilling enough of our own oil for us to not need Saudi oil. In 2023 I agree we should pull out, but what do you suggest we do until 2023?
You are some Ron Paul cultist who just blindly follows Ron Paul around without ever thinking about what he is actually saying.
@LibertyorDeathAZ One more thing, Iranian Democracy??? ROFL!!!!!!! Khomeini supported the Shah in 1953 and he supported the Shah until 1963 when the Shah gave women the right to vote. Ayatollah Kashani was a key supporter in Mossadeghs rise to power but he turned on Mossadegh and said that Mossadegh needs to be executed. Dont even start throwing that "Iranian Democracy" around because that story is complete bull shit.
Hmmm. That explains why Dr. Paul gets more donations from military personnel than all other candidates combined. Yeah! Your highly-intelligent and well-informed analysis of Dr. Paul's credibility on foriegn policy would trump the intelligence of the majority of our servicemen (who actually fight out there) who support Dr. Paul.
Who is the bigger traitor here? The one who wants safer American borders? Or, the one who wants safer Afghan borders?
@RocketSingh80 its illegal for soldiers to put down they are in the military and donate to political campaigns. Soldiers do not have freedom of speech. Ron Paul is lying when he says he got the most donations from soldiers.
Check out the first question & answer on that webpage and read very carefully. It will set the record straight about military personnel making campaign contributions.
@RocketSingh80 so how does that prove me wrong? As I said, you can make contributions but you cannot put down you are in the military. I also like how you got civilian personnel online and try to make it the entire Army. Like the 4th question, soldiers can put bumper stickers on their private vehicles but they cannot use the vehicles for official functions. Same with donating to campaigns, they can donate but they cant put they are in the military. You just proved me right. Thanks.
"These federal employees may not - Use official authority or influence to interfere with an election.
Engage in political activity while: On duty, In a government office, Wearing an official uniform"
Soldiers can donate to campaigns but they cannot put down they are in the Army when they do so. Since they cant put down they are in the Army, there is no way to know who has the most donations from the military. Thanks for proving me right. :)
LOL. I think you need to relearn English. It is not explicitly mentioned anywhere that military personnel should not reveal their identity to the campaign while donating to it. The law just requires them not to publicly campaign for any particular candidate or party. When a soldier donates money to a candidate, he has to give his identity to that campaign for legal reasons (anonymous donations are illegal). Hence, public records show that person is in active duty. I am right!
@RocketSingh80 saying you are in the Army when you donate to campaigns is using your uniform which is specifically says you cannot do. You can donate you just cant say you are in the Army. end of story.
You seriously have issues comprehending the English language. I clearly stated that people donate on their "names" and public records clearly show which ones are under military payroll. They don't have to specify they are military men/women. Paul's campaign can easily check public records to find out how many of their donors are in active service. Stop arguing now and move along.
@RocketSingh80 if you truly believe the government/campaigns checks the names of people in that much detail then you seriously have no idea how the government/campaigns work. Stop talking about topic you dont know anything about. You are just a typical Ron Paul cultist who is trying to bend over backwards to justify Ron Pauls lies.
LOL. Typical response from a guy who knows he has nothing left up his sleeves to counter the truth and has no credibility to add to his worthless debate. I am as much a Paulist as you are an anti-Paulist. So, your argument on my cult status is silly. Like I said before, just move along.
@RocketSingh80 ROFL, all you have left is to admit that government/campaigns actually verify every little detail of what goes on so all you do is insult me. ROFL!!!! There is no way his campaign can verify every person who donates to his campaign. Give it up and admit that Ron Paul is lying.
@RocketSingh80 I cant put my money where my mouth is????? ROFL!!!!! HAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!
I laughed out loud when I read that. Anyone who reads our comments knows that you have nothing backing your assertion and you have no argument left to stand on. No campaign has a profile of everyone who donates to them. You have nothing left to stand on. I rest my case.
@knight4justice so let me get this straight,. you aren't interested in personal liberty and you think killing people to prove killing people is wrong is a good idea,... does that about sum it up?
@danielc121162 I oppose Ron Paul therefore I oppose personal liberty and I support killing people. You have a very warped way of thinking. You Ron Paul supporters have gone from someone who is very passionate about their candidate which helps their candidate, to someone who to someone who is just self righteous which is going to end up destroying their candidate.
@knight4justice point taken I can respect that,... however would you not agree it may be time to try something that has real merit and has not been tried for over a hundred years,... True Freedom. Every other candidate is a choice for more Govt. intrusion in your life and more fraudulent debt. if that is something you want to hand to you r children and grandchildren etc. than I guess I can live with my self righteousness. because the alternative is a not very pretty future.
@danielc121162 define true freedom. Just like with 2008 Obama define change. And there is not a single candidate up there who is for more government intrusion and fraudulent debt.
No I am not ok with handing more debt to my children. That is why I was part of the Tea Party protests and am a Conservative. but at the same time I am not a libertarian.
@knight4justice You again. Arent you suppose to be under the bridge? Isnt that where you trolls stay? It doesnt matter cause im walking over the bridge and tuning out your Bullshit propaganda. You Neo-con Troll you.
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LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago
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When it comes to domestic issues I tend to agree with Ron Paul, when it comes to his foreign policy he begins making up complete lies to justify his position. Then when he went out of his way to begin quoting Bin Laden (lying through omission in the process) and defending the Iranian nuclear program (who are also the number 1 killer of Americans pre and post 9/11) is when Ron Paul went from being someone who stood for principle to being borderline traitor. Everyone vote against Ron Paul.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice Which lies?
zurp5 4 months ago
@zurp5 An example of a Ron Paul lie is when he said during the Iowa debate that there is no evidence the Iranians are trying to obtain a nuclear bomb and went on to say that is what the CIA told him. That is a 100% lie from Ron Paul. If you wish to discuss it I can produce more than enough information showing that Ron Paul is lying.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice He actually said that the CIA shows that there is no concrete evidence that the Iranians are building on their nuclear bomb. He then goes on to say that many, many countries have nuclear bombs. Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb is of no threat to Israel, who has thousands of nuclear weapons, nor us, who have too many to count and also have the capability to shoot bombs out of the air before they reach our borders. What else?
zurp5 4 months ago
@zurp5 Rafsanjani said that if 20 million Iranians die destroying Israel it would be worth it. Rafsanjani is also considered a moderate by the West. There is plenty of evidence that Iran is trying to get a nuclear bomb. Ron Paul just lied to justify his position.
I suggest you go read up on the story of Imam Hussein and the Battle of Karbala and how it played into the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Iran is a major threat to Israel.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice
"My friends, you don’t need to do nation-building in Israel. We’re already built.
You don’t need to export democracy to Israel. We’ve already got it.
And you don’t need to send American troops to Israel. We defend ourselves."
-Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to Congress, May 24, 2011
And that's what the CIA had reported, so I hardly think Ron Paul was lying. Also it's recently come out that Iran already has nukes and has had them for awhile, so gone is that propaganda
zurp5 4 months ago 4
@zurp5 I have never advocated nation building in Israel, nor have I advocated exporting democracy in Israel, nor have I advocated sending soldiers to Israel. I think that we need to stay good friends and work with them like we work with the British or Canadians. According to the Mullahs in Iran, Israel is the little satan and American is the Great Satan. A strong Israel means a safe America. Israel is the first line of defense for America.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@zurp5 If it has come out that Iran already has had nukes and has had them for a while then that just proves that Ron Paul lied to justify his position.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice Ron Paul did not lie, he relayed info that the CIA had reported of showing no concrete evidence that Iran was working on a nuclear bomb. Ron Paul doesn't have the capability of looking for himself so he must have deemed the CIA most trustworthy in the ability to acquire that info. That said, the CIA wasn't even wrong in their claims; they reported no evidence of Iran working on a bomb, then a few weeks later I guess found evidence that they had already had them for some time
zurp5 4 months ago
@zurp5 you are trying really hard to justify Ron Paul lying. Here is an article written by a former member of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards who worked for the CIA inside Iran.
pjmedia . com/blog/iran-successfully-tests-nuclear-missiles/
He worked for the CIA and it shows that there is evidence from the CIA showing Iran is working on the bomb before Ron Paul lied during the Iowa debate. Ron Paul lied to justify his position.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice That article is skewing Iranian actions to suggest they are planning nuclear attacks against us. You must see through this propaganda. It shows no evidence of nuclear arms construction. When testing the bombs, they alerted the American military that they were testing and allowed US spy planes to be present. They stated that this was to strengthen their deterrent power, a point Ron Paul was trying to make. And to cite their space program as a source of aggression is ridiculous.
zurp5 4 months ago
@zurp5 the article also says that they have two nuclear warheads with 8 more expected to be delivered within the next 10 months and expect to arm themselves. Did you overlook that? This guy is former CIA and Islamic Revolutionary Guards and the article is dated before Ron Paul said that the CIA told him there is no evidence Iran is trying to obtain a nuke. This proves Ron Paul lied to justify his position but all you can do is character assassination against the author of the article.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice Character assassination? What the hell are you talking about? I don't know the name of the author much less anything to attack him on. You're nuts. The big question at the time of the debate was if Iran was building a nuke. If there was concrete evidence that they already had some and were about to acquire more, the conversation would have been different, don't you think? Apparently the CIA didn't take this report as solid evidence. And you have no clue what they told Ron Paul
zurp5 4 months ago
@zurp5 well you are sitting there calling the article propaganda then goes on and starts finding way to discredit the article without responding to my actual point. That is a type of character assassination.
and yes Iran was building a nuke at the time of the debate. Khomeini personally ordered the construction of a nuclear bomb.
Also the person who broke the story that Iran already has nukes, same person who wrote the article I posted. The CIA obviously take him seriously.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice no it proves that Iran is not hurling anything at us although they have a bomb.
dixiepassion 4 months ago
@dixiepassion it also prove that Ron Paul lied.
you also said "a" bomb. Why would Iran attack with "a" bomb when they can produce 60 nuclear bombs a year out of the Bushehr nuclear facility. Saying that just because they have one bomb therefore they wont do anything is just naive. Especially when it goes against everything they have ever said about their intentions of destroying Israel and America.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice I just don't buy the war propaganda. I think we need to change our thinking about what other nations do. I think there is a lot of fear mongering going on.
I think the wars are taking our freedoms away. I think many people in America have forgotten that "freedom" not democracy and nation building is what made us great.
dixiepassion 4 months ago
@dixiepassion the Iranians are the number one killer of Americans pre and post 9/11 and have been calling for our destruction for 32 years and have rejected every attempt at negotiations. Now that the Mullahs are calling for attacks on Saudi interests worldwide we have to face Iran. Our country will not survive $10 for a gallon of gas. Those are facts not propaganda. Ron Paul is just giving empty rhetoric and lying on his foreign policy.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice I am not sure i believe that do you have any proof?
dixiepassion 4 months ago
@dixiepassion Iran created Hezbollah as proxies to colonize Lebanon. Look up the Marine bombing in Beirut, the Iranian created Hezbollah was the number one killer of Ameircans pre 9/11. Also go look up the Mahdi militia. They are the leader of Iraqi insurgency and their leader Al Sadr was studying Islamic theology in Qom Iran.
Article on Iran calling for attacks on Saudi interests, March 21, 2011
pjmedia com/blog/pjm-exclusive-iran-orders-attacks-on-saudi-interests-worldwide/
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice You are insane. Ron Paul tells you the honest truth unlike the mainstream media's bullshit. LOL number 1 killer of Americans ? America is the number one killer of Muslims ! Do some research, everything Paul says is spot on. The US is going the way of dictatorship and you don't even know it, its sad
INOVATION27 4 months ago
@knight4justice You got your facts wrong, your entitled to your own interpretation. Its a shame, because you seem intelligent. Please check you're facts - your opinions I respect.
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago
@knight4justice You can't vote against ron Paul - you can only vote FOR something or someone else. Do you suggest more of the same? Clamp down on liberty not hard enough for you? Drone bombings an innocent lives blow apart not bloody enough for you? Police state not menacing enough for you? Financial collapse not apocalyptic enough for you? What are you FOR? More of the same bloody useless financially bankrupt morally rubber like BS?
Vote Ron Paul for Peace, Liberty, Wisdom and Truth
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago 7
@LookEvenDeeper I am a supporter of the Tea Party. I have joined them in protests. I do not want more of the same.
Also what facts do I have wrong? Go look into Irans support for Hezbollah, Mahdi Militia, Al Sadr, Taliban and more. Iran is the number one killer of Americans pre and post 9/11. Its a complete disgrace to America to have Ron Paul stand up there and defend the Iranians with complete lies.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice He plainly said he didn't like Iran seeking nuclear weapons but he's against going to war with them over it. I'm not wanting to argue but I'd like to ask what your stance is? You agree with Ron Paul that you don't like it but are you wanting war with Iran or what? America's defense will suffer if we become insolvent. Paul is the ONLY one saying he'll quickly stop the bleeding. I know America incites much hatred toward us that results in terrorism.
mrsparex 4 months ago
@mrsparex My stance is support the Iranian people in rising up and overthrowing their government. After the Mullahs are out of power in Iran, that will stabalize countries like Bahrain, Iraq, Saudi Arabia. The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt will lose much of their financing, the Syrian government will collapse, Hezbollah in Lebanon will collapse, the Taliban will lose their funding, we wont have to deal with Pakistan anymore let India take care of them, Islamic parties in Turkey will lose funding
knight4justice 4 months ago
@mrsparex once we do what I suggested in my previous comment, that will solve most of our problems in the Middle East then we can do a complete withdraw from the region (with the exception of having a few bases in Saudi Arabia). Just by supporting the Iranian people we wont have to start another war. Plus we wont ever have to fire a bullet. Any problems that come up after we leave, we can let the new Iranian government deal with because they will be our strongest ally in the region by then.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice disagreeing with his foreign policy just means one thing for you, you love war. Your the late old fashion model, non updated version of an American, 2011 Americans all dislike any war
jamezjr7979 4 months ago
@jamezjr7979 the world is much more complicated than Ron Paul tries to make it look. We cant pull out of Saudi Arabia because we currently dont have enough oil rigs to support ourselves. Its going to take us at least 10 years to build enough to support ourselves and that is if we start today. Then its an extremely bad idea to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan because Iran is going to take over the countries through assassinations and use of proxies like Al Sadr. I dont love war.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice You say we cant pull out, but whether your reasons are real, fake, legit, honest, or right on, it doesnt matter because we cant afford it, i can un-complicate it by saying WE DONT HAVE MONEY for it anymore, how do suggest we bypass that sir? only by barrowing more money? or printing more money ? or using 40%- 50% of our tax dollars for it which is a small pot now... what do u have to say to that sir?
jamezjr7979 4 months ago
@jamezjr7979 we cant produce enough oil for ourselves right now. Its going to take 10 years to make ourselves 100% self supported on our own oil. If we pull out of Saudi Arabia and the Iranians are successful in collapsing the Saudi Monarchy our country will not have enough gasoline for our vehicles. Our economy wont survive $10 for a gallon of gas. We HAVE to stay in Saudi Arabia and since Iran has been calling on attacks on Saudi interests worldwide since March, we have to face Iran
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice Yes i understand, even tho i disagree that we can just claim something that isnt ours, but thats another day, back to previous, Sir you still haven't answerd my simple question..*sighs*.. Where is the money coming from to fund this ?!?!?!?!?!??!
jamezjr7979 4 months ago
@jamezjr7979 in 1945 we made an agreement with Saudi Arabia, we will give them military protection if they give us oil. We also agreed that our oil companies will split the profits 50/50. We didnt claim it, we made a legitimate agreement with the Saudis. It was because of that treaty is why we were in the first Gulf War. We honored our word and came to the defense of Saudi Arabia. But it was also because we honored our word is when Osama began his Jihad on America. The world is very complex
knight4justice 4 months ago
@jamezjr7979 "Where is the money coming from to fund this"
We are borrowing money which I do not agree with. Cut the budget and cutting defense is just a dumb idea. Lets start with cutting Obamacare, defund the UN, stop giving money to countries like China, Iran, or the mythical Palestinians.
knight4justice 4 months ago
well you know sir you are in the minority when it comes down OR if it ever came down to do Major budget cuts to sustain the war, thats gonna be hard pill to swallow for people, to understand, cause BASICALLY you want to stop barrowing, and do budget cuts to sustain the war... 2012 election Theme is going to be Anti-War, and if there is cuts, the tax payers will want the money for our country
jamezjr7979 4 months ago
@jamezjr7979 people are going to have to swallow the pill. We HAVE to stay in the Middle East whether we like it or not. Obama promised to have us out of the Middle East and he still hasnt done nor has he closed Gitmo.
I want to do budget cuts to save America. We have to support the Saudis until we can make ourselves dependent on our own oil and Iran has been calling for attacks on Saudi interests worldwide since March. We dont have a choice, if u see another way please tell me.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice - It's unfortunate you've been convinced of a lie by the war mongers in power, your listening to the wrong people. The choice you have is simple, you either vote for peace and liberty, or you vote for more war and more lies. You simply cannot have it both ways - please consider your choices carefully.
LibertyorDeathAZ 4 months ago
@LibertyorDeathAZ you cant have peace when the Mullahs ruling Iran dont want peace with America. They attacked our embassy with the intention of breaking off all diplomatic relations and have rejected every attempt at negotiations since 1979. The Mullahs wanted war with us right from the start. My vote is for reality. You can go vote for Ron Pauls delusional world that he cannot deliver on.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice The US "superpower" has never forgiven the Iranian Islamic ayatollahs for the Iranian Revolution in the late 1970s, which overthrew the US puppet government and held hostage US embassy personnel, regarded as "a den of spies," while Iranian students pieced together shredded embassy documents that proved America's complicity in the destruction of Iranian democracy.
LibertyorDeathAZ 4 months ago
@LibertyorDeathAZ no we havent forgiven them because they have never apologized for it and they have never stopped their anti American rhetoric and their calls for the destruction of America. Plus the same person who said that the embassy was a den of spies, was also the same person who said the Iranian government did not organize the attack (which was a lie). Also if the Shah was a US puppet, can you point to one time the Shah did what was America's interests that hurt Iranian interests?
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice USA needs to repent immediately and pull troops from every other sovereign nation else it will soon be your turn to be bombed. Dr Ron Paul has the remedy - you are just too blind to see. Did you grow up watching television?
AikenBruce 3 months ago
@AikenBruce if we pull out of Saudi Arabia, then the Saudi government will collapse and our gas prices will go to $10 a gallon. Its going to take us 10 years to get our oil rigs up and drilling enough of our own oil for us to not need Saudi oil. In 2023 I agree we should pull out, but what do you suggest we do until 2023?
You are some Ron Paul cultist who just blindly follows Ron Paul around without ever thinking about what he is actually saying.
knight4justice 3 months ago
@LibertyorDeathAZ One more thing, Iranian Democracy??? ROFL!!!!!!! Khomeini supported the Shah in 1953 and he supported the Shah until 1963 when the Shah gave women the right to vote. Ayatollah Kashani was a key supporter in Mossadeghs rise to power but he turned on Mossadegh and said that Mossadegh needs to be executed. Dont even start throwing that "Iranian Democracy" around because that story is complete bull shit.
knight4justice 4 months ago
@knight4justice
Hmmm. That explains why Dr. Paul gets more donations from military personnel than all other candidates combined. Yeah! Your highly-intelligent and well-informed analysis of Dr. Paul's credibility on foriegn policy would trump the intelligence of the majority of our servicemen (who actually fight out there) who support Dr. Paul.
Who is the bigger traitor here? The one who wants safer American borders? Or, the one who wants safer Afghan borders?
I pity you for your ignorance!
RocketSingh80 3 months ago
@RocketSingh80 its illegal for soldiers to put down they are in the military and donate to political campaigns. Soldiers do not have freedom of speech. Ron Paul is lying when he says he got the most donations from soldiers.
knight4justice 3 months ago
@knight4justice
Your ignorance amazes me yet again! Let me educate you once again.
Go to this link below (remove the $ marks)
ht$tp:$//$cpol$.army$.$mil$/$library$/$general$/$faq_hatchact$.$html
Check out the first question & answer on that webpage and read very carefully. It will set the record straight about military personnel making campaign contributions.
RocketSingh80 3 months ago
@RocketSingh80 so how does that prove me wrong? As I said, you can make contributions but you cannot put down you are in the military. I also like how you got civilian personnel online and try to make it the entire Army. Like the 4th question, soldiers can put bumper stickers on their private vehicles but they cannot use the vehicles for official functions. Same with donating to campaigns, they can donate but they cant put they are in the military. You just proved me right. Thanks.
knight4justice 3 months ago
@RocketSingh80 the page also goes on to say
"These federal employees may not - Use official authority or influence to interfere with an election.
Engage in political activity while: On duty, In a government office, Wearing an official uniform"
Soldiers can donate to campaigns but they cannot put down they are in the Army when they do so. Since they cant put down they are in the Army, there is no way to know who has the most donations from the military. Thanks for proving me right. :)
knight4justice 3 months ago
@knight4justice
LOL. I think you need to relearn English. It is not explicitly mentioned anywhere that military personnel should not reveal their identity to the campaign while donating to it. The law just requires them not to publicly campaign for any particular candidate or party. When a soldier donates money to a candidate, he has to give his identity to that campaign for legal reasons (anonymous donations are illegal). Hence, public records show that person is in active duty. I am right!
RocketSingh80 3 months ago
@RocketSingh80 saying you are in the Army when you donate to campaigns is using your uniform which is specifically says you cannot do. You can donate you just cant say you are in the Army. end of story.
knight4justice 3 months ago
@knight4justice
You seriously have issues comprehending the English language. I clearly stated that people donate on their "names" and public records clearly show which ones are under military payroll. They don't have to specify they are military men/women. Paul's campaign can easily check public records to find out how many of their donors are in active service. Stop arguing now and move along.
RocketSingh80 3 months ago
@RocketSingh80 if you truly believe the government/campaigns checks the names of people in that much detail then you seriously have no idea how the government/campaigns work. Stop talking about topic you dont know anything about. You are just a typical Ron Paul cultist who is trying to bend over backwards to justify Ron Pauls lies.
knight4justice 3 months ago
@knight4justice
LOL. Typical response from a guy who knows he has nothing left up his sleeves to counter the truth and has no credibility to add to his worthless debate. I am as much a Paulist as you are an anti-Paulist. So, your argument on my cult status is silly. Like I said before, just move along.
RocketSingh80 3 months ago
@RocketSingh80 ROFL, all you have left is to admit that government/campaigns actually verify every little detail of what goes on so all you do is insult me. ROFL!!!! There is no way his campaign can verify every person who donates to his campaign. Give it up and admit that Ron Paul is lying.
knight4justice 3 months ago
@knight4justice That is amusing, coming from a guy who can't put his money where his mouth is! LOL. Move along buddy, don't be a troll now. :)
RocketSingh80 3 months ago
@RocketSingh80 I cant put my money where my mouth is????? ROFL!!!!! HAHAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!
I laughed out loud when I read that. Anyone who reads our comments knows that you have nothing backing your assertion and you have no argument left to stand on. No campaign has a profile of everyone who donates to them. You have nothing left to stand on. I rest my case.
knight4justice 3 months ago
@knight4justice so let me get this straight,. you aren't interested in personal liberty and you think killing people to prove killing people is wrong is a good idea,... does that about sum it up?
danielc121162 1 month ago
@danielc121162 I oppose Ron Paul therefore I oppose personal liberty and I support killing people. You have a very warped way of thinking. You Ron Paul supporters have gone from someone who is very passionate about their candidate which helps their candidate, to someone who to someone who is just self righteous which is going to end up destroying their candidate.
knight4justice 1 month ago
@knight4justice point taken I can respect that,... however would you not agree it may be time to try something that has real merit and has not been tried for over a hundred years,... True Freedom. Every other candidate is a choice for more Govt. intrusion in your life and more fraudulent debt. if that is something you want to hand to you r children and grandchildren etc. than I guess I can live with my self righteousness. because the alternative is a not very pretty future.
danielc121162 1 month ago
@danielc121162 define true freedom. Just like with 2008 Obama define change. And there is not a single candidate up there who is for more government intrusion and fraudulent debt.
No I am not ok with handing more debt to my children. That is why I was part of the Tea Party protests and am a Conservative. but at the same time I am not a libertarian.
knight4justice 1 month ago
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cause420 3 weeks ago
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@knight4justice You again. Arent you suppose to be under the bridge? Isnt that where you trolls stay? It doesnt matter cause im walking over the bridge and tuning out your Bullshit propaganda. You Neo-con Troll you.
cause420 3 weeks ago
The only thing missing was an american car... Probably not too many RHD ones though.
mrdivot22 4 months ago
@mrdivot22 Ron Paul's not right or left hand drive!
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago
@LookEvenDeeper ahh so I wasn't the only one who noticed
danielc121162 1 month ago
@mrdivot22 I'm in NC and have a RHD Wrangler.
mrsparex 4 months ago
@mrsparex It was probably intended for the post office.
mrdivot22 4 months ago
RON PAUL 2012
CANADAS GOT YOUR BACK BOSS
Coldshot89 4 months ago
@Coldshot89 We all got your back Ron
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago 2
@Coldshot89 BC Fucking loves Ron Paul. FREEDOM! (<<<<add Scottish accent*)
insertclevernickname 4 months ago
Hell YA! Takes a licking but keeps on Ticking! Ron Paul or all Hope is DEAD!
Oceanno69 4 months ago
@Oceanno69 Unbloody breakable
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago
I like that it is someone from downunder. Maybe they can help us.
richardabny 4 months ago
@richardabny Yeah its thunder from down under power - USA's old mate.
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago
Love the spirit
leafwatch 4 months ago
@leafwatch Its not to late to get the spirit back
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago
AWESOME!!! Favorited. Baby COME BACK!! RON PAUL 2012
WeTheComputers 4 months ago
Excellent
annboylyn 4 months ago 2
@annboylyn We need the constitution back!
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago 2
Ron Paul + Constitution = Unbreakable USA!
LookEvenDeeper 4 months ago