The Swine Flu Vaccination Hoax - Explained (4/5)

[anatoom111]

Awesome interview. Jam packed with info. and really found the references and bibliography helpful

[silkcat51]

"From August 30, 2009 to April 3, 2010, 41,914 laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations and 2,125 laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated deaths were reported to CDC."

"Since August 30, 2009, A total of 282 deaths in children associated with 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus infection have been reported to CDC."

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May 21, 2010

[TriasTheBetrayer]

What did he say herpes was?

[huhhuhwhat]

Somehow, considering gays "undesirable" when they are not going to procreate and add to overpopulation, which is what they are trying to eliminate in the first place, is completely illogical!!

[mandeeify]

i agree the decision does not belong to them

[jocktheshockerrr]

seems interesting to listen to , only problem I have is that " a virus is only present in our own bodies to help our bodies detoxify because all our bacteria eating good parts are overburdend or destroyed", he says herpes etc cant be transmitted ? why do so many people around the world get hiv, hepes etc , I think the logic here might be flawed although perhaps i am misunderstanding

[schwitt01]

It is plausable, since transmission requires transmission of material. Usually that material (e.g. mucus) is formed as a result of the illness, and contains the "solvent" virus. This solvent - it has been shown in comtemporary science - has the break down affect of all cells in question, and since lifestyles are very similar within cultural boundaries and lifestyle is a comon denominator of infection, sick people contain similar toxic materials. So a solvent chain reaction could cause "infection

[jocktheshockerrr]

quite an interesting concept, however what your saying techinically even by your theory ,by being exposed to that virus (solvent ) it will cause HIV (due to similiar lifestyles with in the body, so technically speaking its still the same thing,spreading hiv to someone else as it has the same effect), If I can also say you dont have anyone develop hiv that has not been exposed to the virus(solvent). So the only way this theory was to stand is that if somone was to get hiv from no possible event

[schwitt01]

The current theory comes from logical induction - that if that has spread it must be a biologically active infection.

The main differance is that there is no way to immunise someone - only detoxify them as a preventative measure. Giving it to someone will only cause it.

The theory isn't a completely new paradigm - it still works with what we know. But if you got an uncommon disease, would you know how, or would you blame it on "tatanus in the soil" or "dirty keyboards at work"?

[schwitt01]

My point being that no one really knows the process of spread - only that being around people with the flu and getting the flu happen at similar times. So statistically it works, and it could be tested by finding out what toxicities are affiliated with which afflictions, detoxing that person of those toxicities while ensuring they consume no more of it, than putting them in a sterile environment and introducing them to each of the products. e.g. plastic wrapped food could be linked with...?

[jocktheshockerrr]

I would also like to say although I am unsure about your theory on hiv etc I do think you quite on the ball (right) when it comes to how we live our lives now and also the belief that we place in our science, which if you think how many times they say 1 thing and then change it. so although I enjoy but disagree with your ref to viruses I do think that you have alot of intresting and usefull things for people to really think about !

[jocktheshockerrr]

Yes , but think about how HIV works , its not somthing that can be detoxified, techinically its not toxic, its a non bacterial entity which wrecks destrcution on the immune system by effictively using the immune system response to create more virus. de-toxifying would not work , boositing you immune sytem would not work that only holds off the inevitable as you immune sytem raises its cd4 cells , more cells are destroyed and realiser more volume of hiv.

[jocktheshockerrr]

so by aklkt he things you can do to eep healthy technically only help your body keep its immune sytem going and increasing its output to compensate for the loss off cells that little bit longer. Now viral therapy stops the replication this is somthing that food cannot do ? so I am interested what makes you theorise that food can de-toxify hiv from a body ? thats not to say perhaps there is a plant or food source in the world that has exceptional proerpties that allow somone how to stop the virus

[schwitt01]

I have enjoyed this debate too, and I respect your skepticism - I'm not 100% drawn in, I'm really just putting the possibilities out there.

With regards to HIV, it is commonly misdiagnosed. The test for it tests for the antibodies which fight it only - which can provide false positives with other antibodies (e.g. if you are pregnant, have been pregnant, have had certain illnesses, etc). Similarly, AIDS is not the product of HIV, but simply associated as the Chemo treatments are deadly.

[jocktheshockerrr]

Yes been interesting ), however I disagree with the AIDS part , your right in that the therapies in certain circumstances may lead to the onset of aids quicker , however the way HIV destroys the immune sytem through time eg 1 hiv to 1 cd4 , it bursts 100 hiv to 100 cd4 they burst and so on , the body can only keep prducing cd4 cells to be destroyed infected for a period of time AIDS is just NO immune system it cant the immune sys cant function anymore, and the body and cells die.

[Vedantka]

Because we become increasingly toxic from all the preservatives in food and tons of other agents so we produce similar symptoms to detoxify our bodies.

[jocktheshockerrr]

I agree in part to what you say, but what we are talking about here is not similar symptoms but that exact type of disease virus ! I think it is easy to point the finger but there are good people that know what they do every day as well as bad, which is always the case and as much as i think it is good to be thoughtful and understand a process it allows us to make careful decisions, but I don't believe in what you say. we run the risk of going back and instilling fear in people.

[jocktheshockerrr]

what about all the millions that vaccines have saved since the late 1800's in areas of Africa etc these diseases existed long before we were able to develop vaccines, small pox etc , I think people forget what things used to be like and look to blame and mistrust

[Vedantka]

The only right way to deal with any potentially dangerous disease is to work on enhancing in a natural way your immune system through proper diet and life style but also through working on our negative emotions which once out of control truly produce toxic bodies,not only manifesting as flues but all other types of diseases,especially cancer.

[jocktheshockerrr]

While I agree with having a good diet and having the right attitudes in life, that will help to fight disease, but it cannot remove the overall risk of cancers and other diseases this is living in cloud nine ! sorry perhaps if I seem offensive its just my views, there are good things tom come form this video , but there are also things which are fable. I mean lets look at animals they get cancers and viruses in the wild and as pets ? yet somehow we can change our destiny they cant ?Knowledge can

[Vedantka]

Sorry,but in my personal opinion human laboratory knowledge makes things only worse.True knowledge comes from abiding to the laws of nature:ayurvedic medcine for example offers amazing help to a wide variety of diseases,the same with many folk remedies,they work so much better than chemical drugs.Besides we pollute the Earth to the point everybody gets loaded with so much toxins that it is no wonder cancer is sky-rocking.

[jocktheshockerrr]

I mean yes what you have to say in part is true, we destoy what we have been given, many things that are safe turn out not to be, things are constantly changing the world ahs become a pill popping nation, but that does not mean that all pills or treatments should be disregarded. Science brings with achievements and its failures , so we can benefit we just have to use our heads. And to be honest I guess there are the extremes u on one and science on the other does not make iether u right or wrong

[jocktheshockerrr]

just means that we have to find middle ground ! With pharamcuticals making billions of pounds on people suffering I agree in alot of your ethic, its just that science can do alot of good if guided by the right people, so I understand what you say, i just dont agree fully thats all. I hope you understand what im waffling on about lol

[x11115]

jocktheshockerrr where do you get off defending these biological weapons being used on live subjects? Blame and mistrust? Well you distort the facts that the flu shot does not provide any protection to the flu because there's no way to protect against a virus that mutates and evolves. Simple facts that people like you intentionally ignore and try to make anyone out that understands the science behind it as tin foil hat wearers. The fact is the flu shot is what spreads the virus.

[jocktheshockerrr]

Eh x11115, I dont condone biological weapons at all !, and I think there is a difference in what you are saying to what I am saying, but thats cool , if you are to be as arrogant as it looks like you seem to be, fine don't debate cause it seems to me youre incapable and that you think youre are right, so fine , ill discuss with people who can look at BOTH ends of this debate !

[ZionSamurai87]

problem reaction solution.

THEY create the problem, give it to us and await our reaction which is fear and death, and then pop up like saviors to offer us their expensive drug solution.

Their solution is just a spin off of the problem they engineered...

[thebigpitcher11]

hi worldlyknowledge,

for a good video on success with contesting vaccines, check out my blog (linked on the right) and search 'court decision'. also, the links listed just above it. In particular, I have found the gentleman from the vaccine rights website is very helpful.

peace

[jaila5]

as u can c the med establmnt believes the body tries 2 commit suicide when n reality it is trying 2 survive the suicidial lifestyle in western societies. Medica est. has missed it completely & as a result practice malpractice I live a disease free life & this can be obtained by anyone who wishes to do so. If there is a mechanism that leads to the developement of a disease there is a mechanism that leads to the cure. The cure lies in the cause. Stop the cause & the body can regulate & cure itself

[jaila5]

the body needs time inbetween meals to complete other vital functions that r impeded by constant eating. Cancer is a final attempt to detoxify cells that are sufficatng in their own waste. this is why they mutate to become cells that can survive in low to no oxygen areas and by mutation are able to survie by eating the waste that would have killed them if they had not mutated. the med estblshment comes in and only add to the problem of toxins by adding toxic poisins 2 the tumor killing patient

[jaila5]

This is complete truth this is why i myself haven't been sick in more than 3 years. I fast regularly and thereby give my body needed time to detox. There is no need for my body to create the viral and bacterial infections to clear waste because it is allowed the needed time to detox on it's on. The average americans eats 2 many times a day and portions are too large and at the worst times & also inbetween meals. This keeps the body in a constant digestive mode and gives no oppurtunity to detox

[thebigpitcher11]

with respect to toxins in the average american diet, you may be interested in this

/watch?v=mYyDXH1amic

[jaila5]

Yes I'm well aware of the toxins and one of the reasons i began to look into the benefits of fasting. I'm looking for some good info on farming as i would like to become selfsufficient.....thanks for the link.

[thebigpitcher11]

re food self-sufficiency / independence... really good article dated July 7 on the naturalnews c0m website

search 'food independence' on that site for the article

most of this article is about living elsewhere (outside USA), but will give you a good idea how he did it

namaste

[CanadaLarry]

Jaila5:

Do you have more words of wisdom and complete truth.

It is so refreshing to hear from someone who knows the truth.

And knows how to present it.

A big hug to you if I could. 10 *****stars to you.

[jaila5]

CanadaLarry....I do actually and I'm writting an E-BOOK....I'll be finished soon. It's a complete lifestyle guide to help others live a sickness and disease free life....

[CanadaLarry]

jaila5:

I too would like to write a book, a small book for children that would tell the story of.. well the story's about the breakdown of the immune system starting the day a dumb nurse took a big needle and put 7 or 8 different bits of foreign matter in a beautiful little boys yr old body and he wound up with Autism because the healthy immune system he did have could not cope with the 7 or 8 different bits of foreign matter all at one time.

Hay, you could include it in your E-book?.

[jaila5]

I guess anything is possible but of course I would have to review it first.

[CanadaLarry]

jaila5:

It was just a thought and an outline. I will wait till some dumbass Doctor jumps on me with his version of the Vaccine Hoax.

Be Patient.

[zensho1]

Crap.

[jaila5]

this guy is right on the money the body creates virus' and bacteria to clean up waste in the body that it can't take care of...just as normal cells will mutate into cancer cells so they can survive without oxygen and nutrients and they begin to eat the waste inside there inter cellular fluids. cancer a survival mechanism no difefferent medicine has missed it completely

[vman996]

I agree, this is the truth you never hear...

This guy knows what he talking about.

I love the idiots on here, the keyboard scientists, writing comments through ignorance.....lets see their research!!!

[ClintfromNYtoVA]

everything so far except the virus being a solvent is believable. Baxter and Bayer got caught trying to spread the swine flu and aids around the world via vaccinations. At pandemic level 6 the WHO laws trump US laws, so forced vaccinations could be next. See comments on my page on how to deal with this.

[johndela1]

if you can't spread a virus without injecting it, how to people get aids when they have only had sex and not been injected?

[mastainventa]

as it can only pass via injection to start with but once it is in the victim it can pass via the blod stream ie the mlae sex organ

[johndela1]

can you send me a reference for this claim? I am interested in learning more about this idea

[murfamurph]

he said the virus cant pass through sex period. only injection

[mastainventa]

im talking about the first person to get aids seen as it can only be passed on by haveing sex or by needle then the first person to get aids would have to have it injected into the blod stream as nobody had it to start with. think about it

[johndela1]

There is just to way to verify what he is saying. I can't simply choose to believe it because it makes sense.

[mastainventa]

im talking about the first person to get aids. seen as the virus can only be pased by haveing sex or a needle then the firt person to get it had to have it injected as nobody had it so where did it come from you cant get it if its not in the blod stream so it had to be injected into its first victim. think about it

[mastainventa]

no what is being said is someone had to have had the virus to start with seen as the first person with the virus could not catch it in any other way but to have sex with someone with it or be injected with it he had to have it injected as nobody had it so it had to have been injected. if nobody has aids in the first place you cant catch it by haveing sex as nobody has it.

[johndela1]

viruses can mutate or adapt, the same way all life does

[murfamurph]

i have the same question, did he say that all of the gay people got aids through the hepititas vacines?

[johndela1]

He does say something like you can't catch a disease from sexual contact. In video 2/5 he says you must be injected. He just no references for his claims in his books or talks.

[johndela1]

I'm not saying what he says is not true. The US has done some similar things in the past while research germ warfare. I'm just saying this guy makes tons of claims with no references.

[ThoughtCriminal911]

Great stuff.