@go555ace Fuudo is more often associated as a Virtua Fighter all star (with his main LIon Rafale), but is also making his name as he is starting to win in these SF tournaments too. He is just a damn good player in fighting games in general, making the point that this and VF take totally different mindsets to play (not to start any SF vs. VF controversy, 'cause they are both great in their respective ways)
@vf4efan ok thx. Yeah 2d and 3d fighters are different and each game has its own systems so fuudo must be real skilled to be able to do well for both type of fighting games
Huh? "Early focus attack?" Useless advice, no decent Ryu is going to let themselves get hit by a random focus when tatsu, f.hp, and reversal shoryuken all break armor. Level 1 FA puts you at a disadvantage, so that's out of the question. Free shoryuken for Ryu.
EX Wheel Kick does not put Abel at any advantage, and doesn't start up very fast. Usable, but definitely not the primary way of getting in.
I agree with GamesPlayer1. It took me just an hour to get the hang of Ryu, but mastering him takes a tremendous amount of time. Ryu is a high tier character with good properties and amazing tactics. His moves changed in SSF2 Turbo. Here is a combo. "Jumping.HP, CR.MP, CR.LP, CR.MK, Ex. Tatsu, Ex. Shoryu, FADC, Ultra. One of the strongest combo in his repertoire. That being said, Ryu is one of the best well-balanced character in Street Fighter. Enough Said.
@IDaChosenUno Exactly. Ryu has very slow recovery. If he is baited to do moves, his slow recovery can be used against him in many ways. It takes ages to recover from even a hadouken or crouching HK. Experienced Ryu's therefore only combo them or do them at distances/moments at which they are impossible to punish. Ryu isn't truly excellent at any department. He's just the most all-round one. Sagat/Seth/Ken excell in SRK, Ken's tatsu is much better, Akuma's fireballs are more versatile, etc.
@KeenoMajeno1 Don't hate on Ryu because he has many priorities. I main Ryu and my experience with Ryu is that he is very well played and not broken. If you have SSF4 AE on PS3, I'll be happy to take you on with my Ryu. PSN ID: Satsui-No-Ryu.
@KeenoMajeeno1 Why do you think everyone does it without hit confirming it? It's basically safe. It's either free damage, free chip, or free juggle into ultra.
Ryu is well-known for being an extremely easy to play character.
@DemihumanGosu im no disagreeing im just calling bulshit. never said he was easy to (master) but i will say it doesnt take to master the bastard to play on ahigh level with him. long as u kno his rules and knowledge of the game.
@GamesPlayer1 regardless if he would have done it any faster and the game would have made him go right through it. And so. it still should have landed he times that perfectly. And I kno what properties that damn tatsu has man u dont have to tell me. jus cause it was an ex doesnt mean its no bullshit.
@GamesPlayer1 i kno you dont cause u prolly use Ryu. with your shoryu trades for ultra and fast recovery with tatsu. O yeah and no i dont lose to Ryus before u try to say it. I just body them. And regardless of what u say he timed it perfect and it was bull shit.
@KeenoMajeeno1 if you do it too early it goes right throu, if you do it too late it gets blocked...I'm sorry but what do you expect? ryu does ex tatsu while able does ex roll, so ITS FAIR in your brain that Abel can ESCAPE Ryu's ex tatsu and at the same time punish it, LIKE THAT?!? it wasn't timed perfectly because he used ex roll. this is street fighter, one move at a time. peace.
p.s. i'm not trying to own anybody, this is just a simple discussion...
@GamesPlayer1 ur missing my point. lets say he just randomed a tatsu and not even ex tatsu at that. if Abel would have just went straight to ultra they would have made Abel go straight through it. How do I kno this cause its happened to me alot of times. so ok i can take them fucking me over with going through it sense it goes through fireballs with timing. but when i time the fucking thing to hit Ryu right as he stops and then I get blocked and can recover and counter it? thats bull shit.
@GamesPlayer1 either way the Abel was screwed and they give Ryus moves so much priority its like why even try to fight the bastard. Like that little two hit thing in the air he does to set up his ultra. that thing has so much priority its rediculous. I kno everything a RYu wants to do but it doesnt matter cause the shits always in his favor. o lemme fump and trade o wait he ultras into that. O shit got caught in the corner with a ex tatsu ultra into that. lemme zone with fire ball.
Not trying to hate...but Shiro beat Daigo's Ryu like twice...and pretty convincingly at that, and Daigo is suppose to be the best Ryu player in the world...
@GamesPlayer1 O wait his is gonna go through it and counter mine.. ok ok lemme just footsie with him. aww fuck he can ex fireball cancel into ultra with that to. I think i just run the whole fucking match and hope he dies from lung cancer or something maybe he smokes..... :/ get what im saying? he already has so much he just had to have fast recovery on that tatsu to ha? fuck Ryu and anybody that act like its hard using him. cause its not i use to main him it was fun fucking people over.
@KeenoMajeeno1 huh whatever, now you are just hating. Ryu is not broken in any way shape or form. What made him high tier was the trade into ultra and the super trap. other that that, he's the same in AE, if not better in AE with better normals.
@GamesPlayer1 Are u serious man? See Now i can use Dhalsim as an example. I never said he was easy to (Master) and even if hes the hardest to master that in no way shape or form means he not cheesy. Look at Dhalsim. He can zone u out from half fucking screen. is he easy to use no!1 not at all it taked great skill to use him but that does not mean hes not cheesy at all. Its an up hill battle fighting a master Dhalsim period because even if u get close to him hes gonna just disappear across
@GamesPlayer1 across the damn screen and we gotta start the up hill battle all over again. for people to sit there and say its not cheesy for a character like Dhalsim to have these advantages is rediculous seeing that majority of the characters require u to be up in there fucking face! O and i beat dhalsims to for the record no im not free against dhalsim the shit is still annoying and gay. I shouldnt have to play that way using a character i wanna use while he sits bak tapping a button!
Shiro beat Daigo and twice at that, so it was no fluke...i don't think at this level with Ryu and Abel in particular that its about the characters, its more about predicting or reading the style of play...if Shiro can beat Daigo's Ryu but has difficulty with Fuudo, clearly it can't be about 'Ryu'...it has to be something else...
@bogosse02200 Actually i think he was playing around. He obviously played "for real" when his life got low. Its a staple of shiro, its almost like a dare or a taunt for him to let you diminish his life.
Fuudo plays with a lot more guts then Daigo. When Daigo and Shiro fight he rarely throws fireballs but fuudo is using them like its normal in this matchup.
@maaartadella I wouldnt say smarter, but safer and more patient. Usually when Daigo and Shiro fight Shiro wins, but it seems that Fuudo found out how 2 use his fireball savely in this match-up. Probably knows the distance.
0:42 dem low punches and kicks man, that shit is EFFECTIVE. Whenever I fight against Ryus I always get hit by a crossup then get pummeled to hell by those. Then I'm like, "no! dont hurt me plz!" then it's like SHORYUKEN.
daigo doesn't when tournaments in japan.he get's his ass handed to him over there.he comes to america,where the competition is soft for him and win's.look at all the big japanese tournys and tell me where you see daigo.hell daigo can't even beat shiro.daigo,wins in america because where he come from the lvl of competition is great.japanese sf players are light years ahead of american play.i give him no respect for winnig over here.
Daigo concept matches says hello. Mago beat him though in those matches. But later on Daigo destroys Mago (and he made him look fairly nooby). Now don't tell me Mago is cake when that guy is clearly one of the best Sagats around the world. Don't get me wrong though, there's still more stronger players than Daigo in Japan for sure, but Daigo is still up there. In your text you're making Daigo look like just some dude in Japan whose just, how should I say it, ''average".
I love how this is a Fuudo vs Shiro match and people are going on and on about Daigo. Daigo is good not because he turtles, spams, or does the same shit over and over again. He's good because the guy knows his mind games. It's not about knowing how to combo it's about knowing when to hit and how to move.
Diago is a fagot? why have u won Bazzilion numbers of Championships? Is ur Ryu beter than him? Have u Beat Daigo before? have u ever had interviews like him because he's owning Japanese players? are u sponserd like him?
if not in any of those , why u talk shit big mouth?
and another guy sayin i lost respect to Daigo because he think this game is good, if so then why u too playin SF4? if ur not playin sf4, why are others playin it and the game made it to EVO?
Are you sure you're not examining the wrong situation? After the anti air focus in the corner, I'm almost positive Shiro was trying to Ultra since you'd have more then enough time to confirm the FA hit and land the Ultra.
@vtxaishi oh.. my bad. i thought u were talking about fuudo. well actually i think he was going for the fallen sky becuz abel's ultra can only land off of certain animations and i dont think thats one of em. but i no the EX falling sky can land
first and last round were kinda one-sided fuudo kinda owned i think, while shiro put up a nice show of the amazing comeback(of cos nt as amazing as the 1 daigo did to justin)
Cause Fuudo doesn't do the same shit over and over and over again. If you watch videos of Daigo, you'll notice he's not so good without his projectiles against another good player.
Well, yes and no. Daigo is not a faggot homo, but I have lost respect for him since he plays this game and considers it a good street fighter or fighting game at all. But you are correct, he pretty much only uses Ryu. In 3 though, he chose Ken because Ryu wasn't as good and projectiles are almost useless in Street Fighter 3.
different fighting style... Just because shiro take down daigo doesnt mean he better than daigo in sf4. If thats the case, it means Shiro can beat anyone daigo can. However when two pro fight eachother, it all comes down to luck.
@knutitup ...Uh, heh, I hope I didn't offend you. Seriously, Fuudo has beaten Daigo enough times that I consider him better than Daigo. I'm not being a jerk. I could care less about Japanese champions... Whatever bro. I'll see ya guys at EVO.
I'm not offended at all.We don't see every match they play. Me and you don't have enough information about their stats or records. But I do know that Daigo is winning the biggest major tournies. Fuudo is know where to be found.
Fuudo's got damn nice pokes on his part.. It's really dangerous trying to get near him without the correct timing or without a good strategy.. Very well done!!!
Peoples' views of balance simply don't make sense. Supposedly Ryu vs. Abel is an even matchup, but that's only because of Abel's roll and Ultra. Abel has to be extremely precise and fast with all of his moves and he can destroy Ryu. Either he totally outplays Ryu, or plays very carefully and struggles the whole time. And that's apparently why it's balanced, because Ryu can do whatever the hell he wants and wins by default, but loses if he makes mistakes against a smart Abel.
So Snacks... you're saying that if one character doesn't have to be smart and wins by default, and the other character has to play very, very smart in order to have a chance at winning... that this means "Balanced?" Balanced would imply that at an equal skill level, both characters have an equal chance at winning.
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I'm gonna say this. Shiro is very skilled to play a character like Abel. This game however isn't very balanced. Sure, nobody does a gay amount of damage besides maybe a couple characters (Sagat and Balrog), however, that doesn't mean it's BALANCED. Some characters are obviously more effective than others. I mean, since when are people afraid to jump over projectiles because they'll automatically get shoryukened?
Agree, once you play high level players you dont worry TOO MUCH on a DP on wake up.But get tooo relax and you get a player who does it and you cant really do much but block...AND PUNISH!!!MUWHAHAHAHA
So you think shiro is better because fuudo has to use a shoryuken on wakeup all but once?
Well I think shiro is an idiot for falling for the same thing all but once. And if you think DP on wake up is a scrup move, then shiro is even dumber for falling for a scrub move MULTIPLE times.
i understand wut ur saying but u see,at the pro level of japenese players,dey dont necessiraly do wake up DP like most US americans do.shiro was overcrediting fuudo, thinking he cant or wont do wake up dp all the time. whether it was strategy or scrubbiness on fuudo's part is n e one's guess,but ill go with the latter.
@MaceAce7 well it was more like shiro was assuming fuudo wouldn't do wake-up DPs
same thing can be said of 2:02. when do you see great players doing a lvl 3 FA on a downed opponent? shiro was taking a huge risk but at high levels, because you never really know, he risked it (too bad there was no follow up since fuudo jumped, hence no crumple)
Thank you so much for pointing this, as I never thought of it before.Abel is too difficult to use for me, since his moves requite those shitty Sanwa sticks that suck like hell.If I could play it on X-stick, Happ Perfect 360 or Happ Ultimate, it would be a lot better.What other characters are well anti-fireballs? Maybe Blanka?
I never spam with fireballs, I am a muay thai boxer myself, maybe this is why.I use Sagat since SF 2 CE.I agree, this just is not the Shiro we use to know, maybe he was not quite in shape.
@FIxt00l Abel is actually one of the anti-fireball characters; he got many moves that can go thru or counter firballs. If you have watched Daigo's match against Shiro, you would have seen that he used Hadoken very rarely.
Ruy's fireball is not that cheap of a move due to its recovery time. Fuudo got no advantages in this point, I believe..
Shiro owned another spamming n00b, at least in the first round, Kudos! Abel is much harder to master than the cheap cliche Ryu, who spams with a long kick and a fireball.I have never seen tactics like this before-escaping from a Tatsumaku Senpu Kuyaku and a try for an Ultra combo...I am not saying I can beat Fuudo, just my 2 cents, mates.Anyway, I live in a small country named Bulgaria, and I will never ever have access to any tournament, to try out and learn more out of my Blanka and my Sagat..
Dude, no offense really, but i think you don't know what you talk about.
This guy you call "noob" is fuudo, one of best japan players.
And the badest japanese player would beat the shit out of anyone of us, you included. They are at a level above europe/US level. They see frame. In tournaments japanese players ALWAYS win.
And if you know japanese players yet then i think that you lack of humility for calling anyone of thel noob. The best live player IS a noob compared to him.
This being said, i would have prefered 1000 time shiro winning too, first because i like shiro as a player, and also because i like abel as a character.
Looked to me as if the Abel character was the one backing off at that point of 'spamming', waiting for Ryu to come to him to start grappling. What else could Ryu of done? The Abel guy should have come forward. If it's part of the game, who cares, as long as you win.
Man, Shiro, pull it TOGETHER buddy! You're better than that.
To all those out there who don't know better, this IS NOT Shiro at his finest. This was likely more of a friendlies than anything too serious. (I'm sure both of these guys more than qualify for the tourny they were looking to get into.)
Hey now, why would you shut up? You just didn't know, that's not a crime. And you should go to a tournament, it's a fun learning experience. Don't worry about placing poorly, I came 32nd out 50 entrants in my first tournament, haha.
I'm not quite ready for the competitive league yet--a lot of the advanced stuff still escapes me. Though I guess there's no real better way to learn than to actually EXPERIENCE the competition.
Are there any sites where they list area tournaments?
True, and I have to say that Fuudo is amazing (no matter what game he play he's just stunning). Shiro his pretty good too, two players I really appreciate, The match was great though.
Hate to sound like a noob, but I'm curious what "super armor" actually entails. It sounds like it could be just another term for invincibility. Does super armor just expire, and invincibility last a certain amount of time?
Shiro right now is regarded as "hands down" the best Abel player. This video tho....I'm sorry I will probably get a lot of thumbs down but he played like TRASH.
I wouldn't say he played like trash, however, he didn't play as well as he usually does, that's very much for sure. Fuudo is pretty good though, I think he's even beaten Daigo's Ryu as well. Anyways, thanks alot XD I wish I could find alot of videos for different match ups.
If he ultra'd at 2:02, it would not be powerful enough to finish Ryu.Yes, he would do a lot of damage but I'm pretty sure that he was holding onto it just in case Daigo put distance between them. If he Daigo did, then he would have to put up with fireballs since he used up his ultra. So basically, saves the ultra in case of fireballs.
Fuudo's Ryu is fantastic. Awesome fight. Way to bait out of Abel Ultra. Ryu is the Best!!!!
uchihafire12 3 months ago
vanilla...i miss it so much
S7R31F 3 months ago
so who is this fuudo guy? :/
go555ace 4 months ago
@go555ace
He just won EVO2011. The biggest fighting game tournament in the world.
simplelife88393 4 months ago
@simplelife88393 ahh i see. so he must be real good
go555ace 4 months ago
@go555ace Fuudo is more often associated as a Virtua Fighter all star (with his main LIon Rafale), but is also making his name as he is starting to win in these SF tournaments too. He is just a damn good player in fighting games in general, making the point that this and VF take totally different mindsets to play (not to start any SF vs. VF controversy, 'cause they are both great in their respective ways)
vf4efan 3 months ago
@vf4efan ok thx. Yeah 2d and 3d fighters are different and each game has its own systems so fuudo must be real skilled to be able to do well for both type of fighting games
go555ace 3 months ago
@IDaChosenUno
Huh? "Early focus attack?" Useless advice, no decent Ryu is going to let themselves get hit by a random focus when tatsu, f.hp, and reversal shoryuken all break armor. Level 1 FA puts you at a disadvantage, so that's out of the question. Free shoryuken for Ryu.
EX Wheel Kick does not put Abel at any advantage, and doesn't start up very fast. Usable, but definitely not the primary way of getting in.
Snacks256 4 months ago
1st Round: That Abel sucks; he can only grab.
2nd Round: Near end....HOLY SHIT OMFG WTF that ABLE RAPED.
3rd Round: Back to he sucks.
89Valkyrie 5 months ago
I agree with GamesPlayer1. It took me just an hour to get the hang of Ryu, but mastering him takes a tremendous amount of time. Ryu is a high tier character with good properties and amazing tactics. His moves changed in SSF2 Turbo. Here is a combo. "Jumping.HP, CR.MP, CR.LP, CR.MK, Ex. Tatsu, Ex. Shoryu, FADC, Ultra. One of the strongest combo in his repertoire. That being said, Ryu is one of the best well-balanced character in Street Fighter. Enough Said.
uchihafire12 5 months ago
Wow. fuck that end ;)))
Number1ricky 5 months ago
@IDaChosenUno Exactly. Ryu has very slow recovery. If he is baited to do moves, his slow recovery can be used against him in many ways. It takes ages to recover from even a hadouken or crouching HK. Experienced Ryu's therefore only combo them or do them at distances/moments at which they are impossible to punish. Ryu isn't truly excellent at any department. He's just the most all-round one. Sagat/Seth/Ken excell in SRK, Ken's tatsu is much better, Akuma's fireballs are more versatile, etc.
sf4arcade 5 months ago
Congrats, Fuudo, for placing 1st at EVO 2011. Impressive matches against Poongko and Latif (aka the guys who bested Daigo).
Incog2k6 6 months ago 2
@KeenoMajeno1 Don't hate on Ryu because he has many priorities. I main Ryu and my experience with Ryu is that he is very well played and not broken. If you have SSF4 AE on PS3, I'll be happy to take you on with my Ryu. PSN ID: Satsui-No-Ryu.
uchihafire12 6 months ago
@Mojoheart like 1 random match on youtube is the only time they've played lol.
yahoo1o1 11 months ago
damn that's one hell of a come back.
JKawasawa 1 year ago
Guile theme
Darkeh112 1 year ago
@Mojoheart In one of the matches Daigo beat Fuudo...so what are ya gonna say about that?
masterchief527 1 year ago
@masterchief527 lol fuudo beat daigo in a tourney in France to get 1st place......-_____-
watsup516 1 year ago
@watsup516 : / That means all pro players are equal.
masterchief527 1 year ago
Could abel ultra after the focus attack at 2:02 ???
xpuniShr88 1 year ago
@xpuniShr88 yep.
SonofGenkai18 1 year ago
i hate people hating ryu. its just gay.
TheManowarBabsi 1 year ago
this is the best Abel??? Shiro fucking suuucks
felipebrasil5 1 year ago
@felipebrasil5 shiro sucks? can u play abel better or can u fin a better abel?-.-
shaminko 1 year ago 3
@shaminko yes i can lol
felipebrasil5 1 year ago
@felipebrasil5 wat?? I didnt know those words could be put in a setence. your out your mind.
KeenoMajeeno1 1 year ago
the recovery time on that tatsu at the end is rediculous. dont care what nobody say.. that ultra should have landed...
KeenoMajeeno1 1 year ago 75
@KeenoMajeeno1 Why do you think everyone does it without hit confirming it? It's basically safe. It's either free damage, free chip, or free juggle into ultra.
Ryu is well-known for being an extremely easy to play character.
"To master"... a whole different story.
DemihumanGosu 1 year ago
@DemihumanGosu im no disagreeing im just calling bulshit. never said he was easy to (master) but i will say it doesnt take to master the bastard to play on ahigh level with him. long as u kno his rules and knowledge of the game.
KeenoMajeeno1 1 year ago
@KeenoMajeeno1 its an ex move for a reason, more invicibility, less start up, less recovery.
GamesPlayer1 9 months ago
@GamesPlayer1 regardless if he would have done it any faster and the game would have made him go right through it. And so. it still should have landed he times that perfectly. And I kno what properties that damn tatsu has man u dont have to tell me. jus cause it was an ex doesnt mean its no bullshit.
KeenoMajeeno1 9 months ago
@KeenoMajeeno1 I don't follow your logic sorry...
GamesPlayer1 9 months ago
@GamesPlayer1 i kno you dont cause u prolly use Ryu. with your shoryu trades for ultra and fast recovery with tatsu. O yeah and no i dont lose to Ryus before u try to say it. I just body them. And regardless of what u say he timed it perfect and it was bull shit.
KeenoMajeeno1 9 months ago
@KeenoMajeeno1 if you do it too early it goes right throu, if you do it too late it gets blocked...I'm sorry but what do you expect? ryu does ex tatsu while able does ex roll, so ITS FAIR in your brain that Abel can ESCAPE Ryu's ex tatsu and at the same time punish it, LIKE THAT?!? it wasn't timed perfectly because he used ex roll. this is street fighter, one move at a time. peace.
p.s. i'm not trying to own anybody, this is just a simple discussion...
GamesPlayer1 9 months ago
@GamesPlayer1 ur missing my point. lets say he just randomed a tatsu and not even ex tatsu at that. if Abel would have just went straight to ultra they would have made Abel go straight through it. How do I kno this cause its happened to me alot of times. so ok i can take them fucking me over with going through it sense it goes through fireballs with timing. but when i time the fucking thing to hit Ryu right as he stops and then I get blocked and can recover and counter it? thats bull shit.
KeenoMajeeno1 9 months ago
@GamesPlayer1 either way the Abel was screwed and they give Ryus moves so much priority its like why even try to fight the bastard. Like that little two hit thing in the air he does to set up his ultra. that thing has so much priority its rediculous. I kno everything a RYu wants to do but it doesnt matter cause the shits always in his favor. o lemme fump and trade o wait he ultras into that. O shit got caught in the corner with a ex tatsu ultra into that. lemme zone with fire ball.
KeenoMajeeno1 9 months ago
@KeenoMajeeno1
Not trying to hate...but Shiro beat Daigo's Ryu like twice...and pretty convincingly at that, and Daigo is suppose to be the best Ryu player in the world...
azarel7 6 months ago
@GamesPlayer1 O wait his is gonna go through it and counter mine.. ok ok lemme just footsie with him. aww fuck he can ex fireball cancel into ultra with that to. I think i just run the whole fucking match and hope he dies from lung cancer or something maybe he smokes..... :/ get what im saying? he already has so much he just had to have fast recovery on that tatsu to ha? fuck Ryu and anybody that act like its hard using him. cause its not i use to main him it was fun fucking people over.
KeenoMajeeno1 9 months ago
@KeenoMajeeno1 huh whatever, now you are just hating. Ryu is not broken in any way shape or form. What made him high tier was the trade into ultra and the super trap. other that that, he's the same in AE, if not better in AE with better normals.
"A minute to learn, a lifetime to master"
GamesPlayer1 9 months ago
@GamesPlayer1 Are u serious man? See Now i can use Dhalsim as an example. I never said he was easy to (Master) and even if hes the hardest to master that in no way shape or form means he not cheesy. Look at Dhalsim. He can zone u out from half fucking screen. is he easy to use no!1 not at all it taked great skill to use him but that does not mean hes not cheesy at all. Its an up hill battle fighting a master Dhalsim period because even if u get close to him hes gonna just disappear across
KeenoMajeeno1 9 months ago
@GamesPlayer1 across the damn screen and we gotta start the up hill battle all over again. for people to sit there and say its not cheesy for a character like Dhalsim to have these advantages is rediculous seeing that majority of the characters require u to be up in there fucking face! O and i beat dhalsims to for the record no im not free against dhalsim the shit is still annoying and gay. I shouldnt have to play that way using a character i wanna use while he sits bak tapping a button!
KeenoMajeeno1 9 months ago
@KeenoMajeno1 @GamesPlayer1
Shiro beat Daigo and twice at that, so it was no fluke...i don't think at this level with Ryu and Abel in particular that its about the characters, its more about predicting or reading the style of play...if Shiro can beat Daigo's Ryu but has difficulty with Fuudo, clearly it can't be about 'Ryu'...it has to be something else...
azarel7 6 months ago
good ryu not like others that only play backwards
BirdsTheW0rd 1 year ago
great comeback from shiro
bogosse02200 1 year ago
@bogosse02200 Actually i think he was playing around. He obviously played "for real" when his life got low. Its a staple of shiro, its almost like a dare or a taunt for him to let you diminish his life.
76malibu81 1 year ago
At 1:40 "Rare footage of Shiro actually angry"
simpleclean110 1 year ago 5
@simpleclean110 yeah it was because fuudo kept doing air tatsu to build meter like he already won the round and was just going for meter.
kankerturk123 3 weeks ago
fuckin ryu noob
rauljr420 1 year ago
i shouted when shiro got 2nd round!
IOpa2008 1 year ago
wow wat a finish
VeoShock 1 year ago
the damage abel can dishout
phatbastard0alkaline 1 year ago
anyone ever tried in training to shoot ryu's SHINKU HADOKEN(super) VS his own METSUHADOKEN(ultra)?
barbm001 1 year ago
@barbm001 the metsu would outlast a shinku.
ljc12 1 year ago
this is definitly NOT shiro !
ghass24 1 year ago
okay how the hell did fuudo beat shiro's abel then lost to tobo's abel (remember shiro's abel was beating the crap out of tobo's abel).
touyang06 1 year ago
@touyang06 Just because someone wins a mirror match doesn't mean that they're better in every other matchup.
siththomas 1 year ago
Fuudo plays with a lot more guts then Daigo. When Daigo and Shiro fight he rarely throws fireballs but fuudo is using them like its normal in this matchup.
blackman6270 1 year ago
@blackman6270 bcus daigo is smarter
maaartadella 1 year ago
@maaartadella I wouldnt say smarter, but safer and more patient. Usually when Daigo and Shiro fight Shiro wins, but it seems that Fuudo found out how 2 use his fireball savely in this match-up. Probably knows the distance.
blackman6270 1 year ago
0:42 dem low punches and kicks man, that shit is EFFECTIVE. Whenever I fight against Ryus I always get hit by a crossup then get pummeled to hell by those. Then I'm like, "no! dont hurt me plz!" then it's like SHORYUKEN.
zeromk5 1 year ago
Good shit.
Check out my vid if you get the chance.
Thanks
Kristop12 1 year ago
daigo doesn't when tournaments in japan.he get's his ass handed to him over there.he comes to america,where the competition is soft for him and win's.look at all the big japanese tournys and tell me where you see daigo.hell daigo can't even beat shiro.daigo,wins in america because where he come from the lvl of competition is great.japanese sf players are light years ahead of american play.i give him no respect for winnig over here.
xXxSeTTriPxXx 1 year ago
@xXxSeTTriPxXx
Daigo concept matches says hello. Mago beat him though in those matches. But later on Daigo destroys Mago (and he made him look fairly nooby). Now don't tell me Mago is cake when that guy is clearly one of the best Sagats around the world. Don't get me wrong though, there's still more stronger players than Daigo in Japan for sure, but Daigo is still up there. In your text you're making Daigo look like just some dude in Japan whose just, how should I say it, ''average".
garougt 1 year ago
@xXxSeTTriPxXx thats why he is called "Kami"
pikachu1070 1 year ago
I love how this is a Fuudo vs Shiro match and people are going on and on about Daigo. Daigo is good not because he turtles, spams, or does the same shit over and over again. He's good because the guy knows his mind games. It's not about knowing how to combo it's about knowing when to hit and how to move.
Kuya1991 1 year ago
Diago is a fagot? why have u won Bazzilion numbers of Championships? Is ur Ryu beter than him? Have u Beat Daigo before? have u ever had interviews like him because he's owning Japanese players? are u sponserd like him?
if not in any of those , why u talk shit big mouth?
and another guy sayin i lost respect to Daigo because he think this game is good, if so then why u too playin SF4? if ur not playin sf4, why are others playin it and the game made it to EVO?
.....ur the fag maybe?
xxbeholderxx 1 year ago 3
2:05
So lame, the shortcut for EX FS messes someone up even at high level play. AA FA into Ultra would have been a great finish.
vtxaishi 1 year ago
maybe he wasnt doin a shortcut.. maybe he was blocking and wasnt expecting a tornado throw
ClumzyRice 1 year ago
Are you sure you're not examining the wrong situation? After the anti air focus in the corner, I'm almost positive Shiro was trying to Ultra since you'd have more then enough time to confirm the FA hit and land the Ultra.
Try it for yourself.
vtxaishi 1 year ago
@vtxaishi oh.. my bad. i thought u were talking about fuudo. well actually i think he was going for the fallen sky becuz abel's ultra can only land off of certain animations and i dont think thats one of em. but i no the EX falling sky can land
ClumzyRice 1 year ago
first and last round were kinda one-sided fuudo kinda owned i think, while shiro put up a nice show of the amazing comeback(of cos nt as amazing as the 1 daigo did to justin)
ZRyuKageZ 1 year ago
why can shiro always take on daigo but he couldnt beat fuudo?
MdotWretch 1 year ago
Cause Fuudo doesn't do the same shit over and over and over again. If you watch videos of Daigo, you'll notice he's not so good without his projectiles against another good player.
Siberianhusky89 1 year ago
@Siberianhusky89 daigo is a faggot homo who only uses Ryu
vtnsx 1 year ago
Well, yes and no. Daigo is not a faggot homo, but I have lost respect for him since he plays this game and considers it a good street fighter or fighting game at all. But you are correct, he pretty much only uses Ryu. In 3 though, he chose Ken because Ryu wasn't as good and projectiles are almost useless in Street Fighter 3.
Siberianhusky89 1 year ago
different fighting style... Just because shiro take down daigo doesnt mean he better than daigo in sf4. If thats the case, it means Shiro can beat anyone daigo can. However when two pro fight eachother, it all comes down to luck.
ShenOmega 1 year ago
Because Fuudo is better than Daigo...I can't remember a match where Daigo has beaten Fuudo...If there is, I haven't seen it.
JBhag21 1 year ago
And I can't remember the last time Fuudo won major championships..if he has, I haven't seen it
knutitup 1 year ago
@knutitup ...Uh, heh, I hope I didn't offend you. Seriously, Fuudo has beaten Daigo enough times that I consider him better than Daigo. I'm not being a jerk. I could care less about Japanese champions... Whatever bro. I'll see ya guys at EVO.
JBhag21 1 year ago
I'm not offended at all.We don't see every match they play. Me and you don't have enough information about their stats or records. But I do know that Daigo is winning the biggest major tournies. Fuudo is know where to be found.
knutitup 1 year ago
@knutitup he won a recent one in europe...and he beat daigo.
DamoclesPhoton 1 year ago
@JBhag21
There u go, one of them...want some more?
now u've seen it
xxbeholderxx 1 year ago
@JBhag21
hmmmm, how can i post a link of this vid?
anyways type this exactly in the search bar to see one of the vids:
SF IV - Daigo (Ryu) vs Fuudo (Ryu)
xxbeholderxx 1 year ago
1:58 Shiro: "Time to flip the win switch!"
ImShiawase 1 year ago
I love Shiro rage-mode in the 2nd round.
BASSsic 1 year ago
I guess Shiro wasn't ABEL to win the match.
>_>;
Vevion 1 year ago 2
@Vevion lol wad a pun
ZRyuKageZ 1 year ago
1:54 fuudo got cocky lol since no point building up bar if he won.
burningeagle12345 1 year ago 2
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IOpa2008 1 year ago
i dont think daigo ever beaten shiro before
csynn 2 years ago
Fuudo's got damn nice pokes on his part.. It's really dangerous trying to get near him without the correct timing or without a good strategy.. Very well done!!!
Knightofdecay 2 years ago
Open can of whoop ass at 1:56.....got damn!
baiken032 2 years ago
if something works, why not do it?
j0nmelb 2 years ago 2
at 1:56 += i think Shiro got a .. Fuck this shit and RUSH
MangaVoltage 2 years ago 38
so many dumb scrubby comments...
anthonym4a1 2 years ago 2
Peoples' views of balance simply don't make sense. Supposedly Ryu vs. Abel is an even matchup, but that's only because of Abel's roll and Ultra. Abel has to be extremely precise and fast with all of his moves and he can destroy Ryu. Either he totally outplays Ryu, or plays very carefully and struggles the whole time. And that's apparently why it's balanced, because Ryu can do whatever the hell he wants and wins by default, but loses if he makes mistakes against a smart Abel.
Snacks256 2 years ago
So Snacks... you're saying that if one character doesn't have to be smart and wins by default, and the other character has to play very, very smart in order to have a chance at winning... that this means "Balanced?" Balanced would imply that at an equal skill level, both characters have an equal chance at winning.
EasierToRun09 2 years ago
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I'm gonna say this. Shiro is very skilled to play a character like Abel. This game however isn't very balanced. Sure, nobody does a gay amount of damage besides maybe a couple characters (Sagat and Balrog), however, that doesn't mean it's BALANCED. Some characters are obviously more effective than others. I mean, since when are people afraid to jump over projectiles because they'll automatically get shoryukened?
Siberianhusky89 2 years ago
great match played by both. even though shiro lost i think his abel did well. can't win them all.
CharlieL225 2 years ago
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you gotta pick top tiers if you wanna win this broken game
GarredHATES 2 years ago
its obvious shiro is the better player of the two.there was only one time when Fuudo did not mash Shoryuken on wake up
MaceAce7 2 years ago
Agree, once you play high level players you dont worry TOO MUCH on a DP on wake up.But get tooo relax and you get a player who does it and you cant really do much but block...AND PUNISH!!!MUWHAHAHAHA
JaySkuh 2 years ago
best way to beat a good Abel isn't to try and outguess them. you just have to play like an idiot
sakeido 2 years ago
good advice. play like an idiot.
Str8xBallinBaby 2 years ago
lol!
nahnah21 2 years ago
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So you think shiro is better because fuudo has to use a shoryuken on wakeup all but once?
Well I think shiro is an idiot for falling for the same thing all but once. And if you think DP on wake up is a scrup move, then shiro is even dumber for falling for a scrub move MULTIPLE times.
ackpacket 2 years ago
i understand wut ur saying but u see,at the pro level of japenese players,dey dont necessiraly do wake up DP like most US americans do.shiro was overcrediting fuudo, thinking he cant or wont do wake up dp all the time. whether it was strategy or scrubbiness on fuudo's part is n e one's guess,but ill go with the latter.
MaceAce7 2 years ago 2
he did wake up dp cause he knows how shiro plays and he knew it'd catch him
fearandloathinginNY 2 years ago
@MaceAce7 well it was more like shiro was assuming fuudo wouldn't do wake-up DPs
same thing can be said of 2:02. when do you see great players doing a lvl 3 FA on a downed opponent? shiro was taking a huge risk but at high levels, because you never really know, he risked it (too bad there was no follow up since fuudo jumped, hence no crumple)
at this level i would say these are double bluffs
ocping 2 years ago
fuudo has a 11-4 record against daigo. you don't know what you're talking about.
Mican17 2 years ago
Dam shiro exploded towards the end of round 2. Also that ryu is aggressive and has an awkward play style lol.
IntegralAnomaly 2 years ago 4
Nice way to start round 1 eh, as for the last round Abel's ultra should of have gotten him oh well.
xPrimaDonna 2 years ago 4
wow he was fuckin lucky in the last round. that ultra shoulve hit him^^
digggert 2 years ago 2
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kinggreg41189 2 years ago
Wow, he plays an aggressive Ryu, which is good. I think he owned Abel that way compared to Daigo's method.
stretchypants123 2 years ago
Ryu, Ken, Sagat and Akuma are overrated.
TacoManTuesday 2 years ago
I like close range fight and rarely use fireballs.
FIxt00l 2 years ago
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I play Sagat for his long muay thao reach, as I am a thaiboxer myself.Sagat opens himself too much when fireballing.
FIxt00l 2 years ago
Why, is your own muay thai fireball better?
Nvoy123 2 years ago 10
haha
fearandloathinginNY 2 years ago
Thank you so much for pointing this, as I never thought of it before.Abel is too difficult to use for me, since his moves requite those shitty Sanwa sticks that suck like hell.If I could play it on X-stick, Happ Perfect 360 or Happ Ultimate, it would be a lot better.What other characters are well anti-fireballs? Maybe Blanka?
FIxt00l 2 years ago
Fuudo handled Shiro a lot better than Daigo did, but Daigo is still the best Ryu. Shiro is the Abel god, but obviously he takes losses.
xAndrewStrifex 2 years ago
I never spam with fireballs, I am a muay thai boxer myself, maybe this is why.I use Sagat since SF 2 CE.I agree, this just is not the Shiro we use to know, maybe he was not quite in shape.
FIxt00l 2 years ago
@FIxt00l Abel is actually one of the anti-fireball characters; he got many moves that can go thru or counter firballs. If you have watched Daigo's match against Shiro, you would have seen that he used Hadoken very rarely.
Ruy's fireball is not that cheap of a move due to its recovery time. Fuudo got no advantages in this point, I believe..
born2bBokas 2 years ago 2
bad game for shiro... Getting hit TWICE by a dragonpunch after wake up game.. he could just block..
sjoerdinho 2 years ago
Shiro owned another spamming n00b, at least in the first round, Kudos! Abel is much harder to master than the cheap cliche Ryu, who spams with a long kick and a fireball.I have never seen tactics like this before-escaping from a Tatsumaku Senpu Kuyaku and a try for an Ultra combo...I am not saying I can beat Fuudo, just my 2 cents, mates.Anyway, I live in a small country named Bulgaria, and I will never ever have access to any tournament, to try out and learn more out of my Blanka and my Sagat..
FIxt00l 2 years ago
Wow. Firstly you call Fuudo a spamming noob, then admit you use Sagat... lol?
retnuHDJ 2 years ago 3
Dude, no offense really, but i think you don't know what you talk about.
This guy you call "noob" is fuudo, one of best japan players.
And the badest japanese player would beat the shit out of anyone of us, you included. They are at a level above europe/US level. They see frame. In tournaments japanese players ALWAYS win.
And if you know japanese players yet then i think that you lack of humility for calling anyone of thel noob. The best live player IS a noob compared to him.
niksarass 2 years ago
This being said, i would have prefered 1000 time shiro winning too, first because i like shiro as a player, and also because i like abel as a character.
niksarass 2 years ago
Looked to me as if the Abel character was the one backing off at that point of 'spamming', waiting for Ryu to come to him to start grappling. What else could Ryu of done? The Abel guy should have come forward. If it's part of the game, who cares, as long as you win.
Rabbibunny 2 years ago
you called ryu a spamming noob and you play a sagat ...
firashabib 2 years ago 3
Man, Shiro, pull it TOGETHER buddy! You're better than that.
To all those out there who don't know better, this IS NOT Shiro at his finest. This was likely more of a friendlies than anything too serious. (I'm sure both of these guys more than qualify for the tourny they were looking to get into.)
Lndmk227 2 years ago
I'm afraid not. All Japanese tournaments use a single elimination format, so Shiro was eliminated by Daigo here.
And what the hell are "friendlies?" Do you mean casuals?
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
@LeftyHangsLower Friendlies, casuals, whatever. =\
My before comment just shows up how little I know about tourney formats--never been to one myself, so I'll shut up now.
Lndmk227 2 years ago
Hey now, why would you shut up? You just didn't know, that's not a crime. And you should go to a tournament, it's a fun learning experience. Don't worry about placing poorly, I came 32nd out 50 entrants in my first tournament, haha.
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
@LeftyHangsLower There any Street Fighter HD Remix tournies? >_>
Lndmk227 2 years ago
Good to hear you play HDR, a far superior game to SF4. Look around in your area, a lot of SF4 tournaments have HDR side tourneys.
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
I'm not quite ready for the competitive league yet--a lot of the advanced stuff still escapes me. Though I guess there's no real better way to learn than to actually EXPERIENCE the competition.
Are there any sites where they list area tournaments?
Lndmk227 2 years ago
Yeah, exactly, just go and ask a lot of intelligent questions and people will be more than happy to help you.
And if you want to find tournaments in your area, go too Shoryuken forums and browse under the Regional Matchmaking boards. Best of luck.
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
eliminated by daigo?
this is fuudo not daigo
Killcycle1989 2 years ago
I corrected myself after, but I deleted that comment.
LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
ok np
Killcycle1989 2 years ago
@LeftyHangsLower
Fuudo = Daigo? >_>
doraemonrox 2 years ago
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LeftyHangsLower 2 years ago
there was only ONE time in this match where Fuudo did NOT DP reversal on wake-up...dats flow chart for u
MaceAce7 2 years ago
They really need to fix the recovery of tatsu :/
KikiDaiso 2 years ago
rico sucks though
Aramus81 2 years ago
eff that shiro is better.
skatestar178 2 years ago
fudos ryus amazing
meatandwad 2 years ago
True, and I have to say that Fuudo is amazing (no matter what game he play he's just stunning). Shiro his pretty good too, two players I really appreciate, The match was great though.
GenLiu 2 years ago
that tatsu recovery is fucking stupid
evilgeek 2 years ago
awesome fight.
TheGodOfPez 2 years ago
shiro went buckwild on his ass lol
blueglenn 2 years ago
nasty comeback in 2nd round
purcepshun 2 years ago 2
Question: Are most EX moves quicker than their normal counterparts?
Lndmk227 2 years ago
If the move doesn't do additional damage it's usually either that or super armor or invincibility frames.
arsml 2 years ago
Hate to sound like a noob, but I'm curious what "super armor" actually entails. It sounds like it could be just another term for invincibility. Does super armor just expire, and invincibility last a certain amount of time?
Lndmk227 2 years ago
It's where the move absorbs one hit like a focus attack. Thing Balrog's EX dash punches, Fuerte's EX run, etc.
arsml 2 years ago
So I was right: Super armor takes a single hit, while invincibility protects you a certain number of frames.
Thanks for being so cool about it.
Lndmk227 2 years ago
Yes.
Aziztheterrorist 2 years ago
yeah
FlyThruDAir 2 years ago
No. In some cases they are slower (eg. Blanka's Flip to Rolling over the top thingee.) But yes MOST EX moves are faster.
elfirrepins 2 years ago
Say, maybe you can tell me. Is Shiro suppose to be one of the best Abel players right now? May you also tell me some other really good Abel players?
Siberianhusky89 2 years ago
I heard Ojisan Boy plays a good Abel.
elfirrepins 2 years ago
busta bust
s13ara 2 years ago
Thanks
Siberianhusky89 2 years ago
Shiro's pretty much the best around.
InsertSh33p 2 years ago
ricky o
skatestar178 2 years ago
@Siberianhusky89 the best ive seen is rico suave
bshit 2 years ago
Shiro right now is regarded as "hands down" the best Abel player. This video tho....I'm sorry I will probably get a lot of thumbs down but he played like TRASH.
bubbyj 2 years ago 4
I wouldn't say he played like trash, however, he didn't play as well as he usually does, that's very much for sure. Fuudo is pretty good though, I think he's even beaten Daigo's Ryu as well. Anyways, thanks alot XD I wish I could find alot of videos for different match ups.
Siberianhusky89 2 years ago
OH S**T COMEBACK 2:00
GO ABEL!!
KillikXt 2 years ago 2
why didn't he ultra at 2.02?
aseq2 2 years ago
If he ultra'd at 2:02, it would not be powerful enough to finish Ryu.Yes, he would do a lot of damage but I'm pretty sure that he was holding onto it just in case Daigo put distance between them. If he Daigo did, then he would have to put up with fireballs since he used up his ultra. So basically, saves the ultra in case of fireballs.
FlyThruDAir 2 years ago
When the fuck does Daigo come into the picture?
doraemonrox 2 years ago
Oopsie
FlyThruDAir 2 years ago