The funny thing is MTV is the absolute worst music channel. I'm still thinking they went to reality shows and crappy dramas because they saw they were getting killed by MUCH Music on DirectTV and the onslaught of imported music channels that actually showed music and dedicated themselves to variety not vanity.
I'am Stunned & Completely Captivated. Gier Jenssen's a Major Science Fiction Hit
That Utterly Moves The Luner Landscapes On a Wide Wide Scale. Absolutely Stunning it Captures Us All...." The Shield ".......Is by far way up the Charts! Gier Jenssen Must Be An Intellegent Alien On A Quest For Mankinds Future Existance Here On Earth I Love His Idealology And Jenssen's Musique~Composition I've Been Touched By His Own Inner Mind of Specific Ambiental Electronic Templetes & Colorful Format D'stech2
I can't believe MTV used to play music like this. Those were the days. Before it sank into the cesspool of commercial and politically correct fecal matter that they call tv nowadays. Lewis Black said it best: "MTV is to music what KFC is to chicken."
Researchers at NASA/JPL, Caltech, and Arecibo Observatory have released the results of radar observations of the potentially hazardous asteroid 99942 Apophis, along with an in-depth analysis of its motion. Apophis was briefly estimated to have a 2.7% chance of impacting the Earth in 2029. What about our shield ?
I remember them showing this video on MTV UK in the early 90s when it came out. They even featured it on MTV News - something about the Norwiegan Government giving Biosphere a grant because he made music that promoted the landscape of Norway.
Like what the computer says in reply to itself - What do you mean? - knowing that it cannot dream, but may wish to - by saying Will I dream? in the first place. Dreaming becomes a redundant ability and the word is just an empty shell.
I like when the SAL 9000 asks itself; Will I dream? What do you mean? It hints that dreams may become obsolete in future through possible augmentation to a sort of transhuman state, being so dependent on technology, which this video shocases - that we cannot dream, like being assimilated; Star Trek terminology, and simply use the term as an expression of wanting to.
The beginning of the song really captures isolation, isolation that is within an area of solitude. The solitude cursed through natures extreme weather patterns, yet the man made mechanical satellite dish being unaffected, and the shots of the space station show how we can counteract these harsh conditions through advancing technology, and by integrating it we ultimately pose as an unstoppable species that can adapt to almost anything.
This track is stunning. Biosphere is what i aspire to when writing ambient tracks. People have lost the ability to think for more than a few seconds but this really opens your mind.
I caught the voice of SAL from the film "2010." SAL, the computer sister of HAL. "Will I dream?" Just before that, hearing the Russian (?) voices made me think I was on a Soviet (if there still could be one) space ship somewhere in deep space. Nice.
It's astounding to know that MTV once featured music of this calibre, and not just mainstream hip-hop and rap which is present these days. I doubt you'd see MTV playing music like this anymore, but then again: who needs them? At least I don't.
@Entity1490 I say we need a worldwide TV channel playing ambient/psychedelic/chill/etc music 24 hours a day. We could end wars with that kind of peacefullness!
MTV is more like corporate music tv. They're owned by Viacom so they generally play artists that are supported by the companies viacom owns. It's why mainstream sucks these days. Have you heard the shit on the radio? Can you actually call that music???????
If music is a medicine, the shit on the radio is like Advil, it might give a quick fix but it isn't anything special. You'll forget about it in a second. Real music is like a hallucinogenic experience. It is beyond belief.
@snwboar73 Yes real music like this encourages individual interpretation, while MTV opiates just program it, intentionally, in order to keep people in commodity-mode.
I think there is a horrible "American Idol" infection on radio these days.
It's all tasteless pablum for the teens now. You say it's Advil, I say it's worse.
It's a sugar pill; placebo. Yuck.
Mainstream radio doesn't have the balls to play this stuff. Now, you want some good listenin'? Stick to college/university radio! You'll find this and more!
Well said, most of the music u hear on the radio or television is a lot of crap. Music used to be an art expressing of emotions, feelings, thoughts threw sound.
Then u got today's pop music, only made for money and the performers only play music because they want to be famous. Fuck mainstream crap with their stupid hip hop and cheap dance music and all there talent shows with people having no talent.
@snwboar73 I don't think anybody will get a higher comment rating on this video ever. Prepare yourself to get comments on your comment untill the end of time... ;) Thumbs up number 93 my friend, and counting...
i have decided to make it my lifes mission to open up a hundred youtube accounts just to thumbs down him back to 0. I will follow him around youtube through his recent activity log and i will make sure he never recieves the recognition he deserves. Ya thats right I am a comment hater. I hate people who get thumbs up on their comments.
MTV is more like corporate music tv. They're owned by Viacom so they generally play artists that are supported by the companies viacom owns. It's why mainstream sucks these days. Have you heard the shit on the radio? Can you actually call that music???????
If music is a medicine, the shit on the radio is like Advil, it might give a quick fix but it isn't anything special. You'll forget about it in a second. Real music is like a hallucinogenic experience. It is beyond belief.
@snwboar73 Though I disagree with your simile comparing real music to a hallucinogenic experience, I do think that real music should invoke emotions and images in your head. If you are actually seeing images when the music is playing you may be on drugs, or you may be a synesthete. None the less Biosphere is very good.
@snwboar73 Wow! And With That In Mind You Nailed It @snwboar73 Ha Ha Ha! You Are So Darn Right I Totaly Agree By MTV & Viacoms Bullshit. Here On The West End Of These's Divided States Are Not By Far The United States California's FM Radio Is Stuck On Pure Stupidity Always Keepin The Crap That They Claim Is Music I Call It Backword Kalifornia. That Is Why Music Of Global Underground & Of The Electronic Arts Is Why We Have YouTube & The Internet We Must & We Will Thrive In This Industry D'ss
@Entity1490 ah, but the point of that was to get people who didnt know about the band to listen to them. Biosphere could change a lot of things if MTV showed it. I would love to hear this on the radio!
Minimalism is just not a mainstream gerne of music, MTV thinks about one thing and that is numbers as in $. A lady Gaga makes more then a Biosphere for there wallets. And to be 100% frank this is you like or totally dislike it (i got all his work) Levende Fangst is properly one of his best works i have. To bad it is not on youtube :/ . And i agree with Organicthumb, the mainstream music utterly sucks these days.
@Secondlifecreator I never said it was mainstream, I said the opposite. The point of the old MTV was to bring NEW genres of music onto the playing field. I am talking about the OLD MTV, not the new stuff.
Wonderful stuff - most of Patashnik is grand. Splendid they played such things. Oddly enough MTV UK used to be alright in places - they had Alternative Nation with all sorts of videos for things you'd never guessed had videos. Presented by 'Toby' in a warehouse. Probably on youtube somewhere.
lardosian. first time i heard this was on MTV party zone back when MTV played music. It's a classic and has influenced loads of my music. Big up Biosphere !!
super, L-O-V-E it!
thebeany 47 minutes ago
SAL 9000 is the natural electro MC, perfecto
neocoders 1 week ago
Thank you Mr Jenssen. This music is just incredible, it's beyond words…
Ottomatik0 3 weeks ago
Super
666110666 4 weeks ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Biosphere
Best track on Patashnik, hands down.
litemotiv 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Biosphere
Wow VIVA was broadcasting this music, incredible!
TheTrancemaster90 2 months ago
"What Do You Mean?"
JaakunaOkamiNo 3 months ago in playlist Boards Of Canada Biosphere Source Direkt Photek
There is something hauntingly beautiful about radar stations.
problemerfinder 3 months ago 5
shut up and listen to the music!
MrHekelworst 4 months ago
VIVA is a german station owned by mtv. it's broadcasted throughout Europe.
yourownidea 5 months ago in playlist Techno chill
this is polish channel VIVA not MTV
jazz8000 6 months ago 15
@jazz8000 VIVA isnt polish its german channel
oldlblo 6 months ago
@oldlblo oh sorry well if its true i sry. it was broadcasted here tho ;P
jazz8000 6 months ago
Даже русские слова местами различимы.
temachh 6 months ago
Unforgettable...
agathaa9 7 months ago
People have had enough, the same that has been said about MTV and viacom could be applied to mainstream media outlets................
Death to the new world odor!
dmj482 7 months ago 2
The funny thing is MTV is the absolute worst music channel. I'm still thinking they went to reality shows and crappy dramas because they saw they were getting killed by MUCH Music on DirectTV and the onslaught of imported music channels that actually showed music and dedicated themselves to variety not vanity.
anarimus 7 months ago
Internet killed the video star.
anarimus 7 months ago 5
Fuck MTV, we have the internet.
macusual 8 months ago 51
@macusual Fuck MTV [ period ]
DimitryNazarov 2 months ago in playlist Boards Of Canada Biosphere Source Direkt Photek
@macusual I totally agree with you! Fuck yeah!
weepini 2 months ago
STUNNING
1292liam 8 months ago
I haven't heard this for years.
Alphahumphrey2011 8 months ago
Super
666110666 8 months ago
actually that's not mtv its a polish music channel VIVA
mishkauska 9 months ago
MTWhat?
kaleidoscope222 9 months ago
I'am Stunned & Completely Captivated. Gier Jenssen's a Major Science Fiction Hit
That Utterly Moves The Luner Landscapes On a Wide Wide Scale. Absolutely Stunning it Captures Us All...." The Shield ".......Is by far way up the Charts! Gier Jenssen Must Be An Intellegent Alien On A Quest For Mankinds Future Existance Here On Earth I Love His Idealology And Jenssen's Musique~Composition I've Been Touched By His Own Inner Mind of Specific Ambiental Electronic Templetes & Colorful Format D'stech2
davestechnique2 9 months ago
absolutely fantastic tune....made me look at this sort of stuff in a new light..amazing...thankyou
this does'nt half take me back...
and oh yes i used to dream...lol
didlyi 9 months ago
absolutely fantastic tune....made me look at this sort of stuff in a new light..amazing...thankyou
and oh yes i used to dream...lol
didlyi 9 months ago
absolutely fantastic tune....made me look at this sort of stuff in a new light..amazing...thankyou
didlyi 9 months ago
mtv stands for masonic tv fukk them
borneo215 10 months ago
I once skipped the Red Hot Chilipeppers to see Biosphere performing. Long long time ago...
soeshy78 10 months ago
ive been KILLIN some minesweeper to this ^_^
biohazardx321 10 months ago
All the best ambient was made in the 90's
beebul 10 months ago
I shat bricks in my socks.
I love Biosphere.
admirs6 11 months ago
Is there a way to download or buy a high quality version of this video?
Ottomatik0 11 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
this is just great!
0The0Web0 11 months ago
Beautiful.
PaulfromtheWest 11 months ago
I can't believe MTV used to play music like this. Those were the days. Before it sank into the cesspool of commercial and politically correct fecal matter that they call tv nowadays. Lewis Black said it best: "MTV is to music what KFC is to chicken."
dampkamel 1 year ago 2
@dampkamel It wasn't MTV. Its Viva, music channel from Germany. Nevertheless you're right.
371971 11 months ago
5 missed MTV in the 1990's.
Martinofredwall100 1 year ago
I can't remember what scene I was writing when this song came on the radio.
Actar411 1 year ago
snwboar73 respect mate...
StonePhill 1 year ago
1994. will i dream?
MonikaJanuleviciute 1 year ago
One word - dreamy
clrrchrd 1 year ago
this stuff sound very cool;perfect atmoshpere;relaxing and enjoying the silence
bloodyrockfire 1 year ago
Apophis and the Shield.
Researchers at NASA/JPL, Caltech, and Arecibo Observatory have released the results of radar observations of the potentially hazardous asteroid 99942 Apophis, along with an in-depth analysis of its motion. Apophis was briefly estimated to have a 2.7% chance of impacting the Earth in 2029. What about our shield ?
BOHODEVO 1 year ago
This track is awe-smasking!
Look up a these progressive/ambient songs by Music Pollution! :) Good stuff
(Partical Revolution, the symphony) Enjoy....
youtube.com/watch?v=xZaSeOF2QTM
youtube.com/watch?v=LnmAeSqdF5Y
adenps 1 year ago
Perfect!
PARHARIDOU 1 year ago
I remember them showing this video on MTV UK in the early 90s when it came out. They even featured it on MTV News - something about the Norwiegan Government giving Biosphere a grant because he made music that promoted the landscape of Norway.
bassbytes 1 year ago
Will I dream?
piobairenagriosai 1 year ago
genial!!
krzysiek120663 1 year ago
That was on television? :O
Beautiful times...
Mayonez86 1 year ago 3
i like mtv :3
nwm666 1 year ago
yea and f*ck autotune!
dbsugi1 1 year ago
text in russian: sixth, forth, the traffic speed is changing permanently...
totarmo 1 year ago
Biosphere on VIVA?VJ must fired;-)
gabbermikegee 1 year ago
Taka muza(dark ambient)na VIVIe?napewno VJ juz wylecial z pracy;-)
gabbermikegee 1 year ago
i found a song some years ago in youtube ( watch?v=LQ6auXkYhzo )
and i guess biosphere made it could any biosphere fan help me please?
someone told me it could be also from orb and aphex twin
gurkensexshop 1 year ago
niCe
aerobique 1 year ago
Chilllllllllllllllllllll OUT!!!!!! NOW I feel good
specter130ac 1 year ago
can someone tell me where is 1:55-2:10 or something like that... i know its in russia but what is it called and shit
Mechanix1911 1 year ago
Like what the computer says in reply to itself - What do you mean? - knowing that it cannot dream, but may wish to - by saying Will I dream? in the first place. Dreaming becomes a redundant ability and the word is just an empty shell.
Lulzcaek 1 year ago
I like when the SAL 9000 asks itself; Will I dream? What do you mean? It hints that dreams may become obsolete in future through possible augmentation to a sort of transhuman state, being so dependent on technology, which this video shocases - that we cannot dream, like being assimilated; Star Trek terminology, and simply use the term as an expression of wanting to.
Lulzcaek 1 year ago 3
@Lulzcaek Love that movie.
DementedEeyore64 1 year ago
The beginning of the song really captures isolation, isolation that is within an area of solitude. The solitude cursed through natures extreme weather patterns, yet the man made mechanical satellite dish being unaffected, and the shots of the space station show how we can counteract these harsh conditions through advancing technology, and by integrating it we ultimately pose as an unstoppable species that can adapt to almost anything.
Lulzcaek 1 year ago
This track is stunning. Biosphere is what i aspire to when writing ambient tracks. People have lost the ability to think for more than a few seconds but this really opens your mind.
theUGS 1 year ago
will i dream? what do you mean?
jaketoledo 1 year ago
WOW! A Global Consciousness! A Wireless Network! A Shield!
Greetings from Bulgaria!
GlasOtNaroda 1 year ago
the man, the legend ... Geir Jenssen
VasaaL 1 year ago
So deep . Just Biosphere
xXnJoyXx1 1 year ago 2
+1, that deep sound is what Biosphere is all about.
Buschemi22 1 year ago
I caught the voice of SAL from the film "2010." SAL, the computer sister of HAL. "Will I dream?" Just before that, hearing the Russian (?) voices made me think I was on a Soviet (if there still could be one) space ship somewhere in deep space. Nice.
WC3POchannel10A 1 year ago
Biosphere is just magnificent. Norwegian electronica is really nice.
revsjef 1 year ago
5 stars
Sweetohm55 1 year ago
it's -15 here now, so i felt it was fitting:)
APFSDSDU 2 years ago 3
Great music!
heatworm 2 years ago
This makes me feel like I'm about to get abducted by aliens - gives me the creeps, but it's beautiful. Fuuck xD
whatshendrix 2 years ago 6
This comment has received too many negative votes show
...while on some kind of legal/illegal drug!!!
AnyColour91 2 years ago
Oh this is so relaxing...
WinterTitan 2 years ago
I'm speechless... :)))
DeepInsideMe1 2 years ago 2
It's astounding to know that MTV once featured music of this calibre, and not just mainstream hip-hop and rap which is present these days. I doubt you'd see MTV playing music like this anymore, but then again: who needs them? At least I don't.
Entity1490 2 years ago 69
@Entity1490 I say we need a worldwide TV channel playing ambient/psychedelic/chill/etc music 24 hours a day. We could end wars with that kind of peacefullness!
pod118 2 years ago 7
MTV is more like corporate music tv. They're owned by Viacom so they generally play artists that are supported by the companies viacom owns. It's why mainstream sucks these days. Have you heard the shit on the radio? Can you actually call that music???????
If music is a medicine, the shit on the radio is like Advil, it might give a quick fix but it isn't anything special. You'll forget about it in a second. Real music is like a hallucinogenic experience. It is beyond belief.
snwboar73 2 years ago 195
@snwboar73 Well said !!! :D
yoootyooob 1 year ago
@snwboar73 Yes real music like this encourages individual interpretation, while MTV opiates just program it, intentionally, in order to keep people in commodity-mode.
neocoders 1 year ago 2
@neocoders
Wait 5 years when the old media dies and people make the final transition to the web.
croscream 1 year ago
@snwboar73
I think there is a horrible "American Idol" infection on radio these days.
It's all tasteless pablum for the teens now. You say it's Advil, I say it's worse.
It's a sugar pill; placebo. Yuck.
Mainstream radio doesn't have the balls to play this stuff. Now, you want some good listenin'? Stick to college/university radio! You'll find this and more!
Buskieboy 1 year ago
@snwboar73
Actually "music for the masses" - played by MTV or VIVA is not shit. It is well designed tool for social engineering. Google - "Tittytainment".
AqualinespiritPL 1 year ago 2
@AqualinespiritPL Big thank you my friend!
vef444 1 year ago
@snwboar73 You formed it very good my friend.
robvanmol 1 year ago
@snwboar73 never heard any1 say it better. AMEN brother
f1zzrawr 1 year ago
@snwboar73
@snwboar73
Well said, most of the music u hear on the radio or television is a lot of crap. Music used to be an art expressing of emotions, feelings, thoughts threw sound.
Then u got today's pop music, only made for money and the performers only play music because they want to be famous. Fuck mainstream crap with their stupid hip hop and cheap dance music and all there talent shows with people having no talent.
Qinuito 1 year ago 3
@snwboar73 Great comment man - spot on.
hobhouse1 1 year ago
@snwboar73 holy shit man. i couldn't have said it better myself
godofwar007 1 year ago
@snwboar73 great comment
PhillipThunderGrunge 1 year ago
@snwboar73 I don't think anybody will get a higher comment rating on this video ever. Prepare yourself to get comments on your comment untill the end of time... ;) Thumbs up number 93 my friend, and counting...
ChrisGhysel 1 year ago
i have decided to make it my lifes mission to open up a hundred youtube accounts just to thumbs down him back to 0. I will follow him around youtube through his recent activity log and i will make sure he never recieves the recognition he deserves. Ya thats right I am a comment hater. I hate people who get thumbs up on their comments.
OrganicThumb420 10 months ago
@OrganicThumb420 so when you thumb down someone you love them? :)
crazymarf 10 months ago
MTV is more like corporate music tv. They're owned by Viacom so they generally play artists that are supported by the companies viacom owns. It's why mainstream sucks these days. Have you heard the shit on the radio? Can you actually call that music???????
If music is a medicine, the shit on the radio is like Advil, it might give a quick fix but it isn't anything special. You'll forget about it in a second. Real music is like a hallucinogenic experience. It is beyond belief.
OrganicThumb420 10 months ago
i just came up with that off the top of my dome
OrganicThumb420 10 months ago
@snwboar73 Though I disagree with your simile comparing real music to a hallucinogenic experience, I do think that real music should invoke emotions and images in your head. If you are actually seeing images when the music is playing you may be on drugs, or you may be a synesthete. None the less Biosphere is very good.
Actar411 1 year ago
@snwboar73 Wow! And With That In Mind You Nailed It @snwboar73 Ha Ha Ha! You Are So Darn Right I Totaly Agree By MTV & Viacoms Bullshit. Here On The West End Of These's Divided States Are Not By Far The United States California's FM Radio Is Stuck On Pure Stupidity Always Keepin The Crap That They Claim Is Music I Call It Backword Kalifornia. That Is Why Music Of Global Underground & Of The Electronic Arts Is Why We Have YouTube & The Internet We Must & We Will Thrive In This Industry D'ss
davestechnique2 9 months ago
@snwboar73 thank you.
danicanico 8 months ago
all i miss is puck
OrganicThumb420 10 months ago
@Entity1490 It's not MTV. wikipedia Viva_(TV_station)
popcsev 10 months ago 2
@Entity1490 ah, but the point of that was to get people who didnt know about the band to listen to them. Biosphere could change a lot of things if MTV showed it. I would love to hear this on the radio!
kaipakta 10 months ago
@kaipakta
Minimalism is just not a mainstream gerne of music, MTV thinks about one thing and that is numbers as in $. A lady Gaga makes more then a Biosphere for there wallets. And to be 100% frank this is you like or totally dislike it (i got all his work) Levende Fangst is properly one of his best works i have. To bad it is not on youtube :/ . And i agree with Organicthumb, the mainstream music utterly sucks these days.
Secondlifecreator 10 months ago
@Secondlifecreator I never said it was mainstream, I said the opposite. The point of the old MTV was to bring NEW genres of music onto the playing field. I am talking about the OLD MTV, not the new stuff.
kaipakta 10 months ago
wonderful!!!!!!
DarkFulanito 2 years ago
what CD was this on? Patashnik? Gotta buy it : )
DizzerJoz 2 years ago
Exactly. It is from Patashnik :)
solaarr 2 years ago
I love Biosphere! Everything is just so in place and makes you listen to it over and over again!
MiScScully 2 years ago
Wonderful stuff - most of Patashnik is grand. Splendid they played such things. Oddly enough MTV UK used to be alright in places - they had Alternative Nation with all sorts of videos for things you'd never guessed had videos. Presented by 'Toby' in a warehouse. Probably on youtube somewhere.
yurt5 2 years ago
max for this track!
sq7ro 2 years ago
what channel is this
julianlee2 2 years ago
Viva TV from germany, when it still was an excellent music channel.
xelha24 2 years ago 5
now it sucks?
julianlee2 2 years ago
A lot! It is now ruled by MTV Germany.
xelha24 2 years ago
ah fuck man....MTV SUCKS
julianlee2 2 years ago 5
fully dito :=)
VasaaL 2 years ago
indeed. I dindnt even knew that there was a video for this awesome track
AlexisNembrode 2 years ago
thats treu nice ambient/metal songs in the old days
grindcorenl 2 years ago
i agee with
lardosian. first time i heard this was on MTV party zone back when MTV played music. It's a classic and has influenced loads of my music. Big up Biosphere !!
juddboy80 2 years ago 3
Remember this from the days when MTV actually played good music, love this track.
lardosian 2 years ago 3
Anyone ever noticed the vast amount of samples on this album are from the film 2010?
Great track and great album though!
FlatEric03 2 years ago
Genious
PullerPranke 2 years ago 2
pure mind <3
WeekendNacho 2 years ago
i like the video! its fitting. perfect comedown vid.
chadarmyman5000 2 years ago
biosphere FTW!
LOLDISNEYLAND 2 years ago 5
This track is pretty epic.
rekluziv 2 years ago
Biosphere is the shit, man. Very well composed.
BADAWYY 2 years ago 5
offengesagt entdecke ich grad erst diese band - und auch die elektronische musik: könnt ihr mir etwas empfehlen das biosphere-mögern gefallen könnt?
Kleinerkauz 2 years ago
lustmord ? Raison d'être?
obwohl lustmord ist wirklich krass...
Kirov1234 2 years ago
global communication, TKF, Banco de Gaia, vlt Massive Attack...
Das sind die dinge die mir gut gallen ; )
DizzerJoz 2 years ago
massive attack hab ich auch für mich entdeckt^^ deine vorschläge werd ich vormerken - danke.
Kleinerkauz 2 years ago
Das war mal VIVA.
Pauly1975 3 years ago 2
Ups, you can tell I'm at work :)
What I meant to say was that "this track deserved a better video and I'm sure it would have ruled the charts had there been one..."
Loyalbrox 3 years ago 2
Timeless classic. This track deserved a better video and would I'm sure it would have ruled the charts had there been one...
Loyalbrox 3 years ago
im in rave
Bwadman 3 years ago
beatifull music
drapusiek 3 years ago
Thanks!
Lovely memories of Norway!
Shrekdonkey1973 3 years ago 4
Moj ulubiony kawalek Biosphere
bkf192MarekNowinski 3 years ago
Mój też ulubiony! :)
PiotrNita 2 years ago
Großartig. Zeitlos schöne Klänge.
fisch24114 3 years ago 2
Brilliant.
tempsdetruittout 3 years ago
Wow. This is good b. Thanks.
nowshowjj 4 years ago 5
Thanks
33interzona 4 years ago 5
lovvitittts
Domwith5ms 4 years ago 4
nice full beginning
spiricom489 4 years ago 8