I love this part of history its just amazing to hear about great men and brave solders giving up there live's for there country and country men it shows integrity more then what most people have today where they let people destroy there lives and mock there ancestry.
This was no pitched battle it was a shock massacre that the victims never had a hope of winning. Caused by the stupidity of a general, the arrogance of a governor and the treachery of the barbarian Arminius.
Roma Invicta.
And Augustus didn't dream of "ever expanding empire".
Armenius wasn't just murdered by some other germans. After the battle the chiefs realized that they had cut themselves off from from roman economy and roman imports dried up and the infrastructure collapsed.
Becomming a roman province would greatly have improved living conditions in germany if armenius didn't have his crazy idea of starting a war.
Life in germany was shitty again, and it was all the fault of Armenius, so they killed him.
You racist stupid shit. I can't even really put this into words. You're an idiot, plain and simple. Germans have a lot of history before the Nazis came along and raped everything Germany stood for. I hate the Nazis, but I love Germany.
@truthersRdumb you should keep such thoughts to yourself, i just shared the same idea with Sana without realising the drama you vomited up, difference is how I said it was respectful, the way you said it was just fucked up, respect others and you will gain respect back, go fuck yourself.
@Sedona007 that truthers is an opinionated one, shoving his words down everyone's throat like he is the finite (ironically) of truth, so immature and ignorant himself, haha so much Irony.
@xxSanadaxx Im not a racist but if Varus was never betrayed and the region was domesticated into a Roman Province would ww1 and 2 have actually ever happened? would the country of Germany today exist?, it fascinates me.
The austrian-hungarian empire started it when it declared war to serbia which was (probably) responsible for the assasination of the austrian emperor`s son and heir to the throne!
The conquerors of Rome were actually a large coalition of 'Barbaric' tribes and armies. It was the Germans, the Goths (Visigoths and Ostrogoths). Odoacer, who was probably of true German origin, was the first Barbarian 'King' of Italy, so yeah, it was pretty much the Germans.
The Germans didn't conquer Rome. The Romans sold their land and collapsed by rival Roman leaders. The German leader Odoacer didn't conquer Rome, he only overthrew the last western emperor located in Ravenna(Roman capital at that time) The Byzantines launched several invasions let by to retake Italy later. They held Rome for a couple of more years.
@MrBsct The Goths defeated a roman army and killed the emperor, and later went on to sack Rome. I do agree that division and civil war amongst Romans greatly contributed to Romes eventual fall, but the Germans played a vital Roll in the Fall of the Roman Empire.
@polishguy994 your right but the visigoths and the osogoths are an east german tribe but they originated from eastern europe they were not german origin.
@MrBsct "east german tribe" (...) "they were not german" ...isn't this a little bit ambiguous?
Of course, there were some differences between the most western rhinelanders like the Cheruski and east germans like the Goths, since these several hundred heavily vegetated kilometers between them were a huge distance for regular cultural exchange back then - nonetheless, they shared the same cultural sphere ...don't mix modern maps (eastern europe ≠ modern germany) with ancient conditions.
@xxSanadaxx idk about resisted he feared oppression and recently he feared his nation-state would fall at the hands of the RomaN Empire it eventually fell on it's own bc without the trade of the romans that Armidian betrayed the tribes fell into the dust it wasn't till later that Germany became a nation-state all it's own he started it but it was a folly move
also, never agian was this advantage of terrain way of fighting seen until the days of the native peoples
@xxSanadaxx Over here it´s rather unfashionable to say "German, and proud to be" - you´re automatically rubberstamped a nazi. But here I stand and say it loud.
Was it because of this defeat that the German nation was born and went on to start the TWO bloodiest wars in the 20th century? Did it lead to England becoming England?
Actually Germany did not start WW1, and WW2 was just the result of the irresponsible and ruthless Versailles treaty, so the Germans didn't start WW2 just for fun.
everybody who either says Armenius is a great, brave and wonderful german Über-hero /or that he is a filthy dirty betrayer of Rome is an idiot - try to watch history without moral judgments and without always drawing parallels to today
@wildhias Armenius was a schemer, he wanted to take the whole proto-German nation under his wing and act as King, but true to form the rest of the people and their leaders turned on him, which is what Germans do.
Germans seem to forget that it was his fellow peoples they eventually killed off Armenius' dream of overlord/kingship and the man too.
As the millions were being taken through the gas chambers Armenius would have been smiling with pride, as the Reich got stronger.
an inept commander tricked by a traitor walked into a trap that took months to set up in terrain that heavily favored their enemy and outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1 and it still took 3 days to beat the legions who were fighting mostly without central command ... awesum last stand guys
@wiseorwiseazz actually... the germans were outnumbered. the romans had between 18000 and 25000, while the germans had only around 12000. the show was incorect in saying that arminius had "nearly 18000". the fact that they had such superior numbers makes it sort of an embarassing last stand, if you ask me. also, the germans deserve a LOT of credit for fighting together at all. none of the other groups of people rome conquered did anything like that... most infought until the bitter end.
@thunderpeeweea No they did not consider the greeks (actually they admired the greek philosophers and the greek way of thinking) - and they did not think of the egyptians as barbarians =) The romans only used the term barbarians about people that were different in a negative way ;)
germans werent barbarians. they had a social and military and culutural as agriculötural ystem too not as good as romans but they werent. hairy bear wearing unwashed guys who life in small tents in the wood and eat meat and beers
A german football team located next to the battliefield has an ceremonial face mask that was taken from an dead roman centurion as a maskot. So 2000 years later we still hear this story in school :D
What they dont talk about in this, is the fact the germans placed the roman soldiers in homosexual positions for there brethren to find. A slap in the face to the pillars od Rome.
ive allways said that the epic wars of rome vs the barbarians have enormous potential for movies and especially the arminius saga is the biggestmost epic in my opinion most immortal true storey ever existed, and yet it looks like hollywood is finally beginig to realise this with movies like legionaire and now the eagle, seems like somebody is paying attention
He was a great leader and general too... But a good movie will be about Marcus Aurelius... He has a great batle =O without signs of win, he won against the "barbarians" for a miracle of the Olimpic gods =) (well, the egipcians say that was Thot, the Roman say Mercuy/Hermes, anyways is a lovely history)
@AllanGarcia88 all of roman history is littered with epic stories, i prefer the germanic battles because i am fascinated by the mythology and tradition of the germanic people. hail woden.
@AllanGarcia88 greetings my friend, dont worry about the english:D as allways english comes from german, angeln is a region of germany, and so is saxony. Well where to begin i have been following on germanic mytho-poeics for a while but the tragedy of these people that were the only nation to ever sucessfully oppose rome is fascinating, read tacitus germania. cheers
@AllanGarcia88 it is a range of low, forested mountains in the German states of Lower Saxony and North Rhine-Westphalia. so its in germany and its also still called there. i want to make a pilgrimage to this forest i regret that i didnt go there when i was in germany. the great thing about the german people is that they preserve their forests, and almost every city has its own forest where young and old alike go and excercise. indeed germany has some of the most beautifull forests in the world
@AllanGarcia88 well do you have internet? if so go to google images and type teuroburg forest. they have many pictures. it is beautiful, and i will go there for visit. i get the same feeling there as i do when i go to the native american burial ground forest up here in massachusetts where i live. i feel the spirits of the dead in the forest you feel connected and its a good place to have a vision
@Canada1991 pagan was a roman term that simply meant country gods .. as contrasted with the city gods which ever ones they were. it later came to mean not christian after constantine
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 4/5
and look from 3.43 to 3.50
that is how things really happened i.e. Varus and his Legions were bottled and that because of the fact that they didn' t expect that Arminius was driving them in a trap
forgot..............................the romans were caught in an ambush thanks to Arminius (Armin) a german that fought with the romans and betrayed them driving them into a forest where other germans were waiting to realize their ambush. It happened also against the Partians .................the romans were brought by a betrayer into a desert and then decimated...............These two facts remind of the USA and Vietnam....two superpowers of different times defeated by similar tactics
@wann700 im tired of everyones bullshit regarding Vietnam. The Vietcong were repelled in the tet offensive and the Us army was nearing up north. It was a political war, simply.
@LiveJoyDivision your Right it was more like the battle of Thermopylae, a huge power suffering heavy losses to the natives, who used the landscape to their advantages.
No. It was not a war of need but one of want. The draft army was unprepared and politics confused the situation. Equally important was the threat of involving either China or Russia or both.
Of course, the country should have supported the returning soldiers regardless.
@LiveJoyDivision are people still arguing that fact..lol..its 2011...the mafia in washington admitted that racket 30 years ago...where have people been
@wann700 USA did not lose a single battle against the armies of Vietnam. the Vietcong won by winning over the hearts of both American and Vietnamese people. you must also realize that USA is not in any way like the Roman empire. they are very different. if you were to compare USA to an ancient civilization, they would be more like the Assyrians or Akkadians. because like the them USA is a branch of a larger civilization, which is the European one. they are not an independent civilization.
@TheScienceofnature both those nation civilization still had ties to the former. These days Americans have nothing of the sort. In most american mind europe is a place you go on vaca nothing else and they want no relations beyond that.
@InFStudios that is incorrect. USA was built on European values, using European culture and even European citizens. like Assyria was built using the experiences of the Akkadian and the Babylonian culture. the Romans were people who were influenced by the Greeks, but they existed as a unique people, with their own very ancient roots in Italy. Romans may be Latin, but they were unique. some say they were Trojans who fled from Anatolia and settled in Italy.
@123duffbeerrules the Romans like many successful civilizations had a multi ethnic society, especially at the beginning of the formation of the states which mate up the Italian people. before the arrival of the Greek colonies, the indigenous people is thought to be Indo European people. Indo European people all come from Anatolia originally. some times legends have a degree of historical accuracy in them. its sort of like a sugar coded history of people who are not interested in it.
The Proto-Indo-Europeans were not from Anatolia. The original Indo-Europeans were from what is today Ukraine and eastern Europe (this has been shown through archeology and genetics).
@123duffbeerrule the home land of Indo Europeans is eastern Anatolia. this is the territory in which the people who evolved into modern Europeans originally migrated from. some migrated through the Caucasus and into western Russia and eastern Europe until eventually settling in western Europe. others migrated through western Anatolia, into Greece and Italy. about 10.5 thousand years ago, Europe was uninhabitable. it was an ice desert. all civilization comes from Anatolia, Including Mesopotamian.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about so I won't even bother discussing this further. The genetic marker R1a1 is the marker geneticists (and historians) use to mark the development of Indo-European migration, originating from Eastern Europe. R1a1 isn't even found at more then 1% in "Anatolia". Again, I won't argue with someone that deals in "pseudo-facts".
@123duffbeerrules the majority of people of Anatolia today are Turkish people from Mongolia and before them the majorities were Assyrian people who were Semitic people migrating to Anatolia in great numbers during the Greek invasion. native Anatolians are Armenians and nearly all Iranian people. as well as large populations in India originated from Anatolia, the Indo-European people and culture is far larger than the European branch. and they all originated from Ancient Anatolian tribes.
@123duffbeerrules it doesn't matter if some gene is found in Anatolia or not, if you visited Anatolia 1000 years ago, you would not find a single Turkish ethnicity. and today they make up the biggest population in Anatolia. people move around, they are not glued to the ground. ancient Romans are related to modern Turks a lot more than they are related to Ukrainians. because the Romans of eastern Roman empire passed all their genes on to modern Turks not Ukrainians.
The Romans weren't brought up by betray they were brought up by greed und overestimating them selfes!
There is no definition existing, that call defending your own blood against a greedy murdering empire, "betray"!
Especialy these legions were known for making an example of killing entiere settlements and city arround the empire leaving no men, women or children alive. The families of Varus legeons musst have been very happy to know these baby murders were dead finally!
It was an ambush..in an open plain the germans would have had zero possibilities to beat the Legions because these latter were at a level of war organization unknown to the primitive tribes of germany. Later the Romans understood that their empire was too wide to administrate and stopped their conquer wars. Had they decided to conquer the whole Northern Europe they would have done but there was no reason to move there, legions placed in much more important economic places of the mediterraneum
@Memogin If a legion was completely wiped out, the number and the same equipment would never be used again, these legions were never going to be rebuilt after this.
@Morran09 well true but it werid that rome a huge super power couldnt raise large armies anymore, why could they rebuild armies like they did before espically when they have more ppl under their control
replace "caves" by "bases" and "primitive" with "high-tech" and you've got what our troops are doing. It's not like we're (we = all "western" countries) kicking ass either :P
The Romans should have staid in THEIR own country and left the Germans alone.
BTW. Why are the Germanic tribes called "barbarians"? Their had a more democratic political tribes-system than most ancient nations and they practiced the principle of monogamy long before Christianity established it. So, their culture was advanced to those of most African tribes in the 19. century. Nevertheless, nobody would call the Africans "Barbarians"...
@southernID Because the Germans didn't speak Greek. Barbaroi basically means one who speaks jibberish which is what the Greeks considered all other languages. Germans had tribal federations 'Suebi' and met at the Thing to basically yell and hollar, bang their shilds and brandish their swords and daggars they did not have parlimentary procedure. The Gauls thou were very organized but only rarely united under the Aedui and then Romani killed them all around 50bc.
@raaspider Modern English is composed of many languages, all meshed up into an evolving tongue. We have words like "virus" from latin, "eclair" from French, "hound" from German, "Paediatrics" from Greek, "lader" from Norse, "bungalow" from indian, "chow" form Chinese. The list goes on and on, we tend to borrow words due to our past colonialism and many of our names are from Semitic variations, due to Christianity and we use an Arabic number system. You're right to be confused.
Actually Augustus sent his step-son Tiberias and step-grandson Germanicus to continue the war and they were successful. However shortly after a rebellion broke out in Pannonia and they had to be sent there to quell that rebellion. As well, the feeling was that Germany was poor and had no value, and as well the winters war simply dreadful, so Rome did not bother to try to conquer Germany.
@khkhkhkh100 you know that today's Germans have fuck all to do with the ancient Germanic tribes? it's romantic bullshit that came up during the 19th century. It's like today's Egyptians vs. the Pharaohs ...
i meet a man trying to go into the forest. i ask where are you going? he says he is looking for "the horse of the hanged"
where did you see it?
i saw it in a dream.
what was the dream? I know that I hung on a windy tree nine long nights, wounded with a spear, dedicated myself to myself, on that tree of which no man knows from where its roots run
Arminius wasn't called Hermann the German but Hermann the Cheruskan. This shows that his tribal membership with it's restrictions was respected although nationalism made him a hero of whole Germany. But there was a man who was called Hermann the German: a dominican monk in 13th century.
@varelion herman the german soudns pretty lame. either way arminius was a legendary hero. in poems he walks in the halls of valhalla till the day of ragnorok, when that mightiest of trees shakes
That's what I hated about "Gladiator". The Germans were by far the better individual fighters. They lost to the Romans only because they were well unified and fought in cohorts and legions.
history isn't written by those who are "by far the better individual" fighters. Fact is Gauls were the only fighters Romans actually feared in battle since they looked like demons. Most would argue the Spartans were the best individual fighters in history, but there never was a Spartan empire, and they were later defeated by the Romans.
I can hear the voices, Thor has sent the storm attack now. donnar is with us, that moment must have been pure magic to see the face of independence and freedom attack the enslavers of nature.
@SteveSpicerPortsmuth you are a worthless piece of shit without imagination. go fuck yourself. what i mean by enslavers of nature? go read edward gibbons the rise and fall of the roman empire to understand. dumb hick
New Roman armies could have just wiped out the Germanians. Lets face it, years earlier, Julius Caesar had built a huge wooden bridge across the River Rhine, and then marched 40,000 legionnaries across it. This proud Roman force of around 8 legions, was so intimidating, that 430,000 strong Germanic warrior army, fled from the Romans whereever they chose to march. Then, without a single man killed, the Romans withdrew. Julius Caesar could have taken Germania, but for various reasons, just didn't.
@ThePalaeontologist youre a fucking fool and you underestimate Arminius. he was a genius, because he showed with the battle of TW that he could destroy roman army at the peak of their power. Augustsus was the greatest emperor rome ever had. arminius did not have the ressources of rome and he was a severe underdog. however he beat the roman garbage and they never captured him as long as he lived he defeated rome. arminius is a symbol of independence and wilderness in the face of corruption
Those "Roman garbage" you refer to are the only reason your precious ancient Germans even got civilized and advanced to a Roman level at all. If not for the Romans allowing them to be taught all the architecture, sanitation, technology, art and other things they'd still remain on their barbaric level. The oldest cities in Germany were founded by Romans no less.
@SteveSpicerPortsmuth wrong. what romans did not only for the germans but for my people as well is destroy the spirituality from europe, and instead they spread their mechanized industry and pragmatism. the triumph of rome and of christianity is the reason THE WEST has turned into a pile of utter shit completely in decline and europe has at most 100 years of existence. to understand what gemans would have been is to see skandinavia in the viking age. you chose civilization i chose shamanism
For those discussing languages. English is, indeed, very Latin based. 90% of words longer than four letters in the English language are derived from Latin. And whoever said English was brought to England by the Anglo-Saxons, are you serious? Anglo means English....they were already there, fool. When the Saxons invaded they mixed with the English. Hence Anglo-Saxon.
@OkurkaBinLadin So? It is not our fault that the english made an empire similar to the roman one. They still lay claims of ownership to scotland and ireland, which have been heavily influenced by their imperialist neighbours. If something like the battle of teutoberg occurred in scotland then those imperial bastards would get to fuck like they ought to. Instead we have many english immigrants who are happy to fuck up our gene pool and cultural identity
After the roman empire pulled out of Britain those left behinde paniced, fearing an invasion from the picts in the north, they hired warriors from two clans in modern Germany, the Angles and the Saxons. Later, after the contract had run out, they returned with a good portion of their people, and quickly conquered Britain. and they ruled until William the Conqurer invaded from France. And yes they affected your language, mostly the everyday language. Did you know that England comes from Angles?
English was brought here by germanic tribesmen numb nuts! The 'anglos' weren't already in britain, the 'anglos' are the angles! who came along with the saxons, and smaller tribes (geets, frisians, jutes). The word England means angle land, the angles were not here in roman times. simple!
@anglo86 True though there was a Romano_British time when the Saxons and Angles were in England rite after the Romans abandoned England. The people still considered themselves Roman and prayed in Latin.
@Tw1St3DSt33L England is best described as a land constantly conquered by foreign people and neighbors in ancient times. So imagine several little kingdoms over the centuries repeatably invaded by each other and by migrating groups. We had Druids, Roman's, Anglo's, Saxons, and Norman's invade various parts of the the isles while intermingling with the Welsh, Irish, Scottish, and English. This was typical of Europe, it's also a point to know that most British Kings in history spoke French/Dutch.
I love this part of history its just amazing to hear about great men and brave solders giving up there live's for there country and country men it shows integrity more then what most people have today where they let people destroy there lives and mock there ancestry.
HEVIPOINT 5 days ago
I have to look this up. How many legions lost the Eagle Standard in that Germanian region?
The border was guarded at this time? After West and East Empire was setup?
I would of just sent legions through the Forest for shits and giggles and recovered the Eagle Standard.
HERMAN THE GERMAN!!!
DarkPrinceNH5570 6 days ago
TEUTOburg...
Guess who this most likely is? Its a FOREST too.
This wasnt the Teutons was it? Teutons was later on I think.
DarkPrinceNH5570 6 days ago
The Battle of Teutoburg Forest?
More like The Ambush of Teutoburg Forest.
This was no pitched battle it was a shock massacre that the victims never had a hope of winning. Caused by the stupidity of a general, the arrogance of a governor and the treachery of the barbarian Arminius.
Roma Invicta.
And Augustus didn't dream of "ever expanding empire".
RomaInvicta1 1 week ago 2
@RomaInvicta1 it the "history channle" which is usa. lol
DarkPrinceNH5570 6 days ago
Freedom loving Germans destroyed the red armies of the tyrant empire of Rome.
EarthRover 1 week ago
I wonder if the Finns took their Motti tactics from this in the Winter War.
bluenose4344 1 month ago
Armenius wasn't just murdered by some other germans. After the battle the chiefs realized that they had cut themselves off from from roman economy and roman imports dried up and the infrastructure collapsed.
Becomming a roman province would greatly have improved living conditions in germany if armenius didn't have his crazy idea of starting a war.
Life in germany was shitty again, and it was all the fault of Armenius, so they killed him.
Yora21 2 months ago
@Yora21
The Germanic tribes didn't want to live under Roman rule. They wanted to be independent and free.
TelumehtarOriOn 2 months ago
@Yora21 Lol, better be poor and free than enslaved pig with full belly :)
OkurkaBinLadin 1 month ago
"Varus, give me back my legions!!!"
Ilovegames16 3 months ago in playlist battles bc 16
The forest scenery looks so idilic...must be fought for.
EvilFingerTeacher 4 months ago
Tja, ich kenne mich auch gut in meinem Wald aus ! The german wins. jear
BieberderHolznager 4 months ago
Varus, give my back my legions!
Ikonicre 5 months ago
Makes me proud of my Germanic ancestors. They resisted and essentially stopped an Empire that conquered everyone else in their way.
xxSanadaxx 5 months ago 20
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@xxSanadaxx Yeah and founded the nation that murdered millions of civilians in gas chambers. How anyone can be proud to be German is beyond me.
Oh and don't forget that it was the great Germanic people that eventually killed Armenius.
truthersRdumb 4 months ago
@truthersRdumb
You are major dumbfuck!
Sedona007 4 months ago
@truthersRdumb
You racist stupid shit. I can't even really put this into words. You're an idiot, plain and simple. Germans have a lot of history before the Nazis came along and raped everything Germany stood for. I hate the Nazis, but I love Germany.
xxSanadaxx 4 months ago
@truthersRdumb you should keep such thoughts to yourself, i just shared the same idea with Sana without realising the drama you vomited up, difference is how I said it was respectful, the way you said it was just fucked up, respect others and you will gain respect back, go fuck yourself.
JuliusLayDying 3 months ago
@xxSanadaxx
Notice how truthersRdumb replied. What a douche bag.
Sedona007 4 months ago
@Sedona007 Douche bag is generous for someone who is so ignorant.
3baxcb 4 months ago
@Sedona007 that truthers is an opinionated one, shoving his words down everyone's throat like he is the finite (ironically) of truth, so immature and ignorant himself, haha so much Irony.
JuliusLayDying 3 months ago
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JuliusLayDying 3 months ago
@xxSanadaxx Im not a racist but if Varus was never betrayed and the region was domesticated into a Roman Province would ww1 and 2 have actually ever happened? would the country of Germany today exist?, it fascinates me.
JuliusLayDying 3 months ago
@JuliusLayDying The german empire never started WW1!
The austrian-hungarian empire started it when it declared war to serbia which was (probably) responsible for the assasination of the austrian emperor`s son and heir to the throne!
SuperJuliusC 3 weeks ago
@SuperJuliusC very true
MrLegoboy1224 1 week ago
@xxSanadaxx Dont forget that the Germans were the ones who eventually conquered Rome!
polishguy994 2 months ago
@polishguy994
The conquerors of Rome were actually a large coalition of 'Barbaric' tribes and armies. It was the Germans, the Goths (Visigoths and Ostrogoths). Odoacer, who was probably of true German origin, was the first Barbarian 'King' of Italy, so yeah, it was pretty much the Germans.
xxSanadaxx 2 months ago
The Germans didn't conquer Rome. The Romans sold their land and collapsed by rival Roman leaders. The German leader Odoacer didn't conquer Rome, he only overthrew the last western emperor located in Ravenna(Roman capital at that time) The Byzantines launched several invasions let by to retake Italy later. They held Rome for a couple of more years.
MrBsct 1 month ago
@MrBsct The Goths defeated a roman army and killed the emperor, and later went on to sack Rome. I do agree that division and civil war amongst Romans greatly contributed to Romes eventual fall, but the Germans played a vital Roll in the Fall of the Roman Empire.
polishguy994 1 month ago
@polishguy994 your right but the visigoths and the osogoths are an east german tribe but they originated from eastern europe they were not german origin.
MrBsct 1 month ago
@MrBsct "east german tribe" (...) "they were not german" ...isn't this a little bit ambiguous?
Of course, there were some differences between the most western rhinelanders like the Cheruski and east germans like the Goths, since these several hundred heavily vegetated kilometers between them were a huge distance for regular cultural exchange back then - nonetheless, they shared the same cultural sphere ...don't mix modern maps (eastern europe ≠ modern germany) with ancient conditions.
MasterBaltar 4 weeks ago
@xxSanadaxx idk about resisted he feared oppression and recently he feared his nation-state would fall at the hands of the RomaN Empire it eventually fell on it's own bc without the trade of the romans that Armidian betrayed the tribes fell into the dust it wasn't till later that Germany became a nation-state all it's own he started it but it was a folly move
also, never agian was this advantage of terrain way of fighting seen until the days of the native peoples
knightace2002 1 month ago
@xxSanadaxx (Through betrayal)
MJFAN666 1 month ago
@xxSanadaxx Over here it´s rather unfashionable to say "German, and proud to be" - you´re automatically rubberstamped a nazi. But here I stand and say it loud.
Pitfossil 2 weeks ago
@Pitfossil
People can stamp me however they like. I know who and what I am, and I hate the Nazis. I don't give a damn what people think, say or do.
xxSanadaxx 2 weeks ago
@xxSanadaxx Fur der Vaterland
iloveME00011 1 week ago
@iloveME00011
Hail.
xxSanadaxx 1 week ago
@iloveME00011 so much fail
LakeKeta 1 week ago
The Rhine... what a historic River.
bx8yud 5 months ago
ROMA CAPUT MUNDI..........FROM ROME
MrItaly92ful 5 months ago
Was it because of this defeat that the German nation was born and went on to start the TWO bloodiest wars in the 20th century? Did it lead to England becoming England?
truthersRdumb 5 months ago
@truthersRdumb
Actually Germany did not start WW1, and WW2 was just the result of the irresponsible and ruthless Versailles treaty, so the Germans didn't start WW2 just for fun.
Lintflas 5 months ago
wtf i wish the battles in rome total war would be that large
GinTonicdrink 6 months ago
everybody who either says Armenius is a great, brave and wonderful german Über-hero /or that he is a filthy dirty betrayer of Rome is an idiot - try to watch history without moral judgments and without always drawing parallels to today
wildhias 6 months ago
@wildhias Armenius was a schemer, he wanted to take the whole proto-German nation under his wing and act as King, but true to form the rest of the people and their leaders turned on him, which is what Germans do.
Germans seem to forget that it was his fellow peoples they eventually killed off Armenius' dream of overlord/kingship and the man too.
As the millions were being taken through the gas chambers Armenius would have been smiling with pride, as the Reich got stronger.
truthersRdumb 4 months ago
is that rome total war
cmonaable 6 months ago
@cmonaable
no its runescape
ulongkoror 6 months ago
last decisive battles episode
zerker12568901 7 months ago
i wana see command decision!
purefatdude2 7 months ago
Custer anyone?
flownet07 8 months ago
an inept commander tricked by a traitor walked into a trap that took months to set up in terrain that heavily favored their enemy and outnumbered 2 or 3 to 1 and it still took 3 days to beat the legions who were fighting mostly without central command ... awesum last stand guys
wiseorwiseazz 8 months ago
@wiseorwiseazz actually... the germans were outnumbered. the romans had between 18000 and 25000, while the germans had only around 12000. the show was incorect in saying that arminius had "nearly 18000". the fact that they had such superior numbers makes it sort of an embarassing last stand, if you ask me. also, the germans deserve a LOT of credit for fighting together at all. none of the other groups of people rome conquered did anything like that... most infought until the bitter end.
mvan1225 6 months ago
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LunayyLauraaa883 8 months ago
@thunderpeeweea No they did not consider the greeks (actually they admired the greek philosophers and the greek way of thinking) - and they did not think of the egyptians as barbarians =) The romans only used the term barbarians about people that were different in a negative way ;)
Draggis92 9 months ago
excuse me... are they using rome total war on history channel?
Hassim09 9 months ago
@Hassim09 yes
Zootycoonrulez 9 months ago
Is it just me or the host is mimicking Tom Cruise?
oberstul 10 months ago
germans werent barbarians. they had a social and military and culutural as agriculötural ystem too not as good as romans but they werent. hairy bear wearing unwashed guys who life in small tents in the wood and eat meat and beers
Numira 10 months ago
@Numira
But the "civilizated" world has to be in the box of the Greco-Roman world
don't you remember that the Persian called at the greeks "barbarian" too?
Anyways, "barbarian" just means "foreigner"... we make a filthy word (an they made too)
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
@Numira Well the Romans referred to everyone who wasn't Roman as barbarians.
thunderpeeweea 9 months ago
@thunderpeeweea That was he Greeks.
AGTLI 4 months ago
A german football team located next to the battliefield has an ceremonial face mask that was taken from an dead roman centurion as a maskot. So 2000 years later we still hear this story in school :D
Teufelsnachbar667 11 months ago
always choose ur battles!!!!!! trust no one!!!!!!never retreat!!!! this is my law!!!!
foy50 11 months ago
What they dont talk about in this, is the fact the germans placed the roman soldiers in homosexual positions for there brethren to find. A slap in the face to the pillars od Rome.
Bullitsi 11 months ago
ive allways said that the epic wars of rome vs the barbarians have enormous potential for movies and especially the arminius saga is the biggestmost epic in my opinion most immortal true storey ever existed, and yet it looks like hollywood is finally beginig to realise this with movies like legionaire and now the eagle, seems like somebody is paying attention
cryostation 11 months ago 2
@cryostation
and what's about Germanicus?
He was a great leader and general too... But a good movie will be about Marcus Aurelius... He has a great batle =O without signs of win, he won against the "barbarians" for a miracle of the Olimpic gods =) (well, the egipcians say that was Thot, the Roman say Mercuy/Hermes, anyways is a lovely history)
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
@AllanGarcia88 all of roman history is littered with epic stories, i prefer the germanic battles because i am fascinated by the mythology and tradition of the germanic people. hail woden.
cryostation 10 months ago
@cryostation
They have a lot of greek influence, was normal.
Althought I never read about the roman war fron the germanyc side... do you wish give more info?
would be nice =D
PD
Pardon my English, I'm learning =P
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
@AllanGarcia88 greetings my friend, dont worry about the english:D as allways english comes from german, angeln is a region of germany, and so is saxony. Well where to begin i have been following on germanic mytho-poeics for a while but the tragedy of these people that were the only nation to ever sucessfully oppose rome is fascinating, read tacitus germania. cheers
cryostation 10 months ago
@cryostation
Tacitus? ok, I'll read it =D
one more ask, where is now located the place of Teutoburg forest?
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
@AllanGarcia88 it is a range of low, forested mountains in the German states of Lower Saxony and North Rhine-Westphalia. so its in germany and its also still called there. i want to make a pilgrimage to this forest i regret that i didnt go there when i was in germany. the great thing about the german people is that they preserve their forests, and almost every city has its own forest where young and old alike go and excercise. indeed germany has some of the most beautifull forests in the world
cryostation 10 months ago
@cryostation
do you wish send me some pictures of there?
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
@AllanGarcia88 well do you have internet? if so go to google images and type teuroburg forest. they have many pictures. it is beautiful, and i will go there for visit. i get the same feeling there as i do when i go to the native american burial ground forest up here in massachusetts where i live. i feel the spirits of the dead in the forest you feel connected and its a good place to have a vision
cryostation 10 months ago
@cryostation
I live in CentralAmerica
I have an altar to the greek goddes Selene, I know how it feels =D
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
@AllanGarcia88 nice. i feel that woden is my deity. check out the paintings by theodore kietelsen. they inspire my visions
cryostation 10 months ago
@cryostation
OMGs!... I believe that I was the only crazy who believe in the gods... althought I'm hellenic =D
do you want to speak about? sendme a MP please =P
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
@AllanGarcia88
I am also Pagan, a mix between Asatru/Hellenic/Druid, I place them equally as they make up my heritage.
Canada1991 9 months ago
@Canada1991 pagan was a roman term that simply meant country gods .. as contrasted with the city gods which ever ones they were. it later came to mean not christian after constantine
wiseorwiseazz 8 months ago
@AllanGarcia88 Hahaha greetings from Lacedaimonia Hellas my friend!!! May Zeus give you health and happiness!!!
TheKILLA317 7 months ago
@TheKILLA317
really... are you from Greece? O_o
AllanGarcia88 7 months ago
@AllanGarcia88 Yes born and raised in Lacedaimonia (nowadays its called Lakonia).
TheKILLA317 7 months ago
@TheKILLA317 OMGs! XD
well nice to meet you ^^
could you send me a pm I have some ask for a Greek O_o
AllanGarcia88 7 months ago
@cryostation
Your statement is not quite accurate, or your wording is incorrect. Roman overtures were resisted by quite a few people. Just an observation.:)
arriviste2020 9 months ago
damnation.............another mistake.........................digit
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 4/5
and look from 3.43 to 3.50
that is how things really happened i.e. Varus and his Legions were bottled and that because of the fact that they didn' t expect that Arminius was driving them in a trap
wann700 1 year ago
errata corrige ...........I made a typo
with regards to my previous post if you digit in the search field
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 4/5
at 10.31 you get exactly how..........''things''........... happened.
wann700 1 year ago
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with regards to my previous post if you digit in the search field
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 4/5
at 10.31 you get exactly how.......... things............. happened.
wann700 1 year ago
with regards to my previous post if you digit in the search field
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 4/5
at 10.31 you get exactly how what happened.
wann700 1 year ago
Things didn' t happen as descripted here. Please digit in the search field :
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 1/5
then digit
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 2/5
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 3/5
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 4/5
The Germanic Tribes 2 - The Battle of the Teutoburg Forest 5/5
and you will get what the historians have tramanded
wann700 1 year ago
forgot..............................the romans were caught in an ambush thanks to Arminius (Armin) a german that fought with the romans and betrayed them driving them into a forest where other germans were waiting to realize their ambush. It happened also against the Partians .................the romans were brought by a betrayer into a desert and then decimated...............These two facts remind of the USA and Vietnam....two superpowers of different times defeated by similar tactics
wann700 1 year ago 4
@wann700
I believe that the word Arminus is best sayed in latin, Italian or Spanis; latin language is beautiful, like the English =)
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
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@wann700
I believe that the word Arminus is best sayed in latin, Italian or Spanis; latin language is beautiful, like the English =)
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
@wann700 im tired of everyones bullshit regarding Vietnam. The Vietcong were repelled in the tet offensive and the Us army was nearing up north. It was a political war, simply.
LiveJoyDivision 9 months ago 30
@LiveJoyDivision weird. I always thought all wars are political.
000000AEA000000 9 months ago
@000000AEA000000 touche
LiveJoyDivision 9 months ago
@LiveJoyDivision your Right it was more like the battle of Thermopylae, a huge power suffering heavy losses to the natives, who used the landscape to their advantages.
MrGilles1990 5 months ago
@LiveJoyDivision Sorta
see The US soldiers were not aloud to fight in any other country then Vietnam
this was a large downfall because the northern Vietnam could send troops threw western countries and constantly make suprice attacks.
I promise if we fought Vietnam with the ability to cross country borders we would of won no matter what.
taken not just Vietnam in but its naboring country's
axe11154 4 months ago
@axe11154
No. It was not a war of need but one of want. The draft army was unprepared and politics confused the situation. Equally important was the threat of involving either China or Russia or both.
Of course, the country should have supported the returning soldiers regardless.
Sedona007 4 months ago
@LiveJoyDivision are people still arguing that fact..lol..its 2011...the mafia in washington admitted that racket 30 years ago...where have people been
Pete1987pl 4 months ago
@wann700 USA did not lose a single battle against the armies of Vietnam. the Vietcong won by winning over the hearts of both American and Vietnamese people. you must also realize that USA is not in any way like the Roman empire. they are very different. if you were to compare USA to an ancient civilization, they would be more like the Assyrians or Akkadians. because like the them USA is a branch of a larger civilization, which is the European one. they are not an independent civilization.
TheScienceofnature 8 months ago
@TheScienceofnature both those nation civilization still had ties to the former. These days Americans have nothing of the sort. In most american mind europe is a place you go on vaca nothing else and they want no relations beyond that.
InFStudios 7 months ago
@InFStudios that is incorrect. USA was built on European values, using European culture and even European citizens. like Assyria was built using the experiences of the Akkadian and the Babylonian culture. the Romans were people who were influenced by the Greeks, but they existed as a unique people, with their own very ancient roots in Italy. Romans may be Latin, but they were unique. some say they were Trojans who fled from Anatolia and settled in Italy.
TheScienceofnature 7 months ago
@TheScienceofnature
No one says they were "Trojans who fled from Anatolia", this is just in the Aeniad, which is obviously a mythological story.
123duffbeerrules 6 months ago
@123duffbeerrules the Romans like many successful civilizations had a multi ethnic society, especially at the beginning of the formation of the states which mate up the Italian people. before the arrival of the Greek colonies, the indigenous people is thought to be Indo European people. Indo European people all come from Anatolia originally. some times legends have a degree of historical accuracy in them. its sort of like a sugar coded history of people who are not interested in it.
TheScienceofnature 6 months ago
@TheScienceofnature
The Proto-Indo-Europeans were not from Anatolia. The original Indo-Europeans were from what is today Ukraine and eastern Europe (this has been shown through archeology and genetics).
123duffbeerrules 5 months ago
@123duffbeerrule the home land of Indo Europeans is eastern Anatolia. this is the territory in which the people who evolved into modern Europeans originally migrated from. some migrated through the Caucasus and into western Russia and eastern Europe until eventually settling in western Europe. others migrated through western Anatolia, into Greece and Italy. about 10.5 thousand years ago, Europe was uninhabitable. it was an ice desert. all civilization comes from Anatolia, Including Mesopotamian.
TheScienceofnature 5 months ago
@TheScienceofnature
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about so I won't even bother discussing this further. The genetic marker R1a1 is the marker geneticists (and historians) use to mark the development of Indo-European migration, originating from Eastern Europe. R1a1 isn't even found at more then 1% in "Anatolia". Again, I won't argue with someone that deals in "pseudo-facts".
123duffbeerrules 5 months ago
@123duffbeerrules the majority of people of Anatolia today are Turkish people from Mongolia and before them the majorities were Assyrian people who were Semitic people migrating to Anatolia in great numbers during the Greek invasion. native Anatolians are Armenians and nearly all Iranian people. as well as large populations in India originated from Anatolia, the Indo-European people and culture is far larger than the European branch. and they all originated from Ancient Anatolian tribes.
TheScienceofnature 5 months ago
@123duffbeerrules it doesn't matter if some gene is found in Anatolia or not, if you visited Anatolia 1000 years ago, you would not find a single Turkish ethnicity. and today they make up the biggest population in Anatolia. people move around, they are not glued to the ground. ancient Romans are related to modern Turks a lot more than they are related to Ukrainians. because the Romans of eastern Roman empire passed all their genes on to modern Turks not Ukrainians.
TheScienceofnature 5 months ago
@wann700 vietnam was a super power wtf you joking me?
iamjewishnub 6 months ago
@wann700
The Romans weren't brought up by betray they were brought up by greed und overestimating them selfes!
There is no definition existing, that call defending your own blood against a greedy murdering empire, "betray"!
Especialy these legions were known for making an example of killing entiere settlements and city arround the empire leaving no men, women or children alive. The families of Varus legeons musst have been very happy to know these baby murders were dead finally!
Whats w/ usa?
TremereTT 5 months ago
It was an ambush..in an open plain the germans would have had zero possibilities to beat the Legions because these latter were at a level of war organization unknown to the primitive tribes of germany. Later the Romans understood that their empire was too wide to administrate and stopped their conquer wars. Had they decided to conquer the whole Northern Europe they would have done but there was no reason to move there, legions placed in much more important economic places of the mediterraneum
wann700 1 year ago
The Germans and the Hebrews were the only people to have ever successfuly wiped out an entire Legion to the man.
MessiahComing 1 year ago
@MessiahComing.........the roman wiped out a whole germanic people...........the cimbri
wann700 1 year ago
@wann700 Yeah, but these are the Romans we're talking about. Such feats were extremely rare.
MessiahComing 1 year ago
@MessiahComing - Wrong, Hannibal wiped out several legions at Trebia, Trasimene and Cannae.
ChuckyDoll10 1 year ago
@ChuckyDoll10
Hastatis and Cohorts are not the same =)
AllanGarcia88 10 months ago
Go Herman!
Frankie3112Nld 1 year ago
@Frankie3112Nld - LOL, yeah, go go Herman. Go Hannibal Barca
ChuckyDoll10 1 year ago
why didnt the romans rebuild their legions? Havent they raised armies before?
Memogin 1 year ago
@Memogin If a legion was completely wiped out, the number and the same equipment would never be used again, these legions were never going to be rebuilt after this.
Morran09 1 year ago
@Morran09 well true but it werid that rome a huge super power couldnt raise large armies anymore, why could they rebuild armies like they did before espically when they have more ppl under their control
Memogin 1 year ago
@rlsdenker28
replace "caves" by "bases" and "primitive" with "high-tech" and you've got what our troops are doing. It's not like we're (we = all "western" countries) kicking ass either :P
Bull3pr00f 1 year ago
and the Germans would eventually sack Rome. muhahahaha!
m8566 1 year ago
Hey Rome Total War I play that game religiously. Though I have a Mod which makes it 10x more accurate.
zrah1092 1 year ago
The Romans should have staid in THEIR own country and left the Germans alone.
BTW. Why are the Germanic tribes called "barbarians"? Their had a more democratic political tribes-system than most ancient nations and they practiced the principle of monogamy long before Christianity established it. So, their culture was advanced to those of most African tribes in the 19. century. Nevertheless, nobody would call the Africans "Barbarians"...
southernID 1 year ago
@southernID Because the Germans didn't speak Greek. Barbaroi basically means one who speaks jibberish which is what the Greeks considered all other languages. Germans had tribal federations 'Suebi' and met at the Thing to basically yell and hollar, bang their shilds and brandish their swords and daggars they did not have parlimentary procedure. The Gauls thou were very organized but only rarely united under the Aedui and then Romani killed them all around 50bc.
zrah1092 1 year ago
think i might just play this game now
amnesiaraver 1 year ago
lol rome total war. =D
runescapenoob48 1 year ago
you people have me all confused im just going to do my own research to see what the english languages is composed and what people founded the area
raaspider 1 year ago
@raaspider Modern English is composed of many languages, all meshed up into an evolving tongue. We have words like "virus" from latin, "eclair" from French, "hound" from German, "Paediatrics" from Greek, "lader" from Norse, "bungalow" from indian, "chow" form Chinese. The list goes on and on, we tend to borrow words due to our past colonialism and many of our names are from Semitic variations, due to Christianity and we use an Arabic number system. You're right to be confused.
jacksawild 1 year ago
Actually Augustus sent his step-son Tiberias and step-grandson Germanicus to continue the war and they were successful. However shortly after a rebellion broke out in Pannonia and they had to be sent there to quell that rebellion. As well, the feeling was that Germany was poor and had no value, and as well the winters war simply dreadful, so Rome did not bother to try to conquer Germany.
samk1101 1 year ago
"herman the german" my wife calls my...nevermind. LOL
dictionar1 1 year ago
Germania!!!! (holland,germany)
khkhkhkh100 1 year ago
@khkhkhkh100 you know that today's Germans have fuck all to do with the ancient Germanic tribes? it's romantic bullshit that came up during the 19th century. It's like today's Egyptians vs. the Pharaohs ...
aseglkj 1 year ago
Boss
arizonacardinals94 1 year ago
morte ai barbari! SPQR
mastrogiorgio16 1 year ago
funny doc, it's more like advertisment for Rome total war, great game by the way
ReSliSt 1 year ago
I like how they used Rome Total War to present this battle. It's such a good game.
TheJmanzilla 1 year ago
@TheJmanzilla amen, ive played that game for ages and i never get bored
arizonacardinals94 1 year ago
Why the heck Varus went to go though the Forest instead go around it which it could be a option to avoid that?
LegoRepublicese 1 year ago
they never did make it through...
fty170 1 year ago
hi here i am take me as hostage
littleviet18 1 year ago
Our Roman brothers were avenged after at Weser River. The Romans put the Germans back in their place.
eatwoodman 1 year ago
Thats Captain Speirs from BoB... xD brilliant!
TB8719 1 year ago
from my writings:
i meet a man trying to go into the forest. i ask where are you going? he says he is looking for "the horse of the hanged"
where did you see it?
i saw it in a dream.
what was the dream? I know that I hung on a windy tree nine long nights, wounded with a spear, dedicated myself to myself, on that tree of which no man knows from where its roots run
cryostation 1 year ago
Arminius wasn't called Hermann the German but Hermann the Cheruskan. This shows that his tribal membership with it's restrictions was respected although nationalism made him a hero of whole Germany. But there was a man who was called Hermann the German: a dominican monk in 13th century.
varelion 1 year ago
@varelion herman the german soudns pretty lame. either way arminius was a legendary hero. in poems he walks in the halls of valhalla till the day of ragnorok, when that mightiest of trees shakes
cryostation 1 year ago
this is why we say dirty german scum
xcmhx 1 year ago
Herman the German LMAO
punakesha 1 year ago
COMMAND DECIONS!!! I've BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT SHOW FOR YEARS!!!
ImperialLegoStudios 1 year ago
That's what I hated about "Gladiator". The Germans were by far the better individual fighters. They lost to the Romans only because they were well unified and fought in cohorts and legions.
This is a prime example of my point.
JimmySteller 1 year ago
@JimmySteller
history isn't written by those who are "by far the better individual" fighters. Fact is Gauls were the only fighters Romans actually feared in battle since they looked like demons. Most would argue the Spartans were the best individual fighters in history, but there never was a Spartan empire, and they were later defeated by the Romans.
SteveSpicerPortsmuth 1 year ago
I can hear the voices, Thor has sent the storm attack now. donnar is with us, that moment must have been pure magic to see the face of independence and freedom attack the enslavers of nature.
cryostation 1 year ago
@cryostation
load of romantized bull which reaks of the similar stuff of tosh religious warriors claim to feel when they commit their terrorist attacks
"enslaver of nature". what the hell are you smoking boy?
SteveSpicerPortsmuth 1 year ago
@SteveSpicerPortsmuth you are a worthless piece of shit without imagination. go fuck yourself. what i mean by enslavers of nature? go read edward gibbons the rise and fall of the roman empire to understand. dumb hick
cryostation 1 year ago
@ThePalaeontologist
I dont think Julius went to Germania ,are you maybe thinking of Gaul?
Melven200 1 year ago
New Roman armies could have just wiped out the Germanians. Lets face it, years earlier, Julius Caesar had built a huge wooden bridge across the River Rhine, and then marched 40,000 legionnaries across it. This proud Roman force of around 8 legions, was so intimidating, that 430,000 strong Germanic warrior army, fled from the Romans whereever they chose to march. Then, without a single man killed, the Romans withdrew. Julius Caesar could have taken Germania, but for various reasons, just didn't.
ThePalaeontologist 1 year ago
@ThePalaeontologist youre a fucking fool and you underestimate Arminius. he was a genius, because he showed with the battle of TW that he could destroy roman army at the peak of their power. Augustsus was the greatest emperor rome ever had. arminius did not have the ressources of rome and he was a severe underdog. however he beat the roman garbage and they never captured him as long as he lived he defeated rome. arminius is a symbol of independence and wilderness in the face of corruption
cryostation 1 year ago
@cryostation
Those "Roman garbage" you refer to are the only reason your precious ancient Germans even got civilized and advanced to a Roman level at all. If not for the Romans allowing them to be taught all the architecture, sanitation, technology, art and other things they'd still remain on their barbaric level. The oldest cities in Germany were founded by Romans no less.
SteveSpicerPortsmuth 1 year ago
@SteveSpicerPortsmuth wrong. what romans did not only for the germans but for my people as well is destroy the spirituality from europe, and instead they spread their mechanized industry and pragmatism. the triumph of rome and of christianity is the reason THE WEST has turned into a pile of utter shit completely in decline and europe has at most 100 years of existence. to understand what gemans would have been is to see skandinavia in the viking age. you chose civilization i chose shamanism
cryostation 1 year ago
@ThePalaeontologist
They tried .
there were ballles like Idivasto, Caecina, Agravierwalls etc.
There Armenius even faced 8 Legions.
Romas claimed victory, but lost more then half of their troops, their entire fleet and had to retreat.
They say due to an order by the emperor, but frankly, the dead toll tells a different story...
schusterlehrling 1 year ago
@ThePalaeontologist caesars aim wasn't to defeat the germans but to prevent them from launching an attack on allied tribes and to impress the senate.
As soon as the germans were ready for war he went back across the rhine again
I dont think he would have been able to beat unified german tribes
KingNordy 1 year ago
For those discussing languages. English is, indeed, very Latin based. 90% of words longer than four letters in the English language are derived from Latin. And whoever said English was brought to England by the Anglo-Saxons, are you serious? Anglo means English....they were already there, fool. When the Saxons invaded they mixed with the English. Hence Anglo-Saxon.
LookinBoy888 1 year ago
@LookinBoy888 ENGLISH is GERMANIC language. End of story.
You could aswell say, that japanese is latin language since it borrows heavily from english :-P Unfuckingbelievable.
And you english speakers wonder why FRENCH always look down upon you. You pretend to be someone you are not.
OkurkaBinLadin 1 year ago
@OkurkaBinLadin
50% of english is latin,mixed with medieval french.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@OkurkaBinLadin So? It is not our fault that the english made an empire similar to the roman one. They still lay claims of ownership to scotland and ireland, which have been heavily influenced by their imperialist neighbours. If something like the battle of teutoberg occurred in scotland then those imperial bastards would get to fuck like they ought to. Instead we have many english immigrants who are happy to fuck up our gene pool and cultural identity
Pawnbroker00 1 year ago
@Pawnbroker00 william wallace is arminius. in spirit. long live free ireland and scotland. death to imperialism
cryostation 1 year ago
After the roman empire pulled out of Britain those left behinde paniced, fearing an invasion from the picts in the north, they hired warriors from two clans in modern Germany, the Angles and the Saxons. Later, after the contract had run out, they returned with a good portion of their people, and quickly conquered Britain. and they ruled until William the Conqurer invaded from France. And yes they affected your language, mostly the everyday language. Did you know that England comes from Angles?
zantakio 1 year ago
English was brought here by germanic tribesmen numb nuts! The 'anglos' weren't already in britain, the 'anglos' are the angles! who came along with the saxons, and smaller tribes (geets, frisians, jutes). The word England means angle land, the angles were not here in roman times. simple!
anglo86 1 year ago 22
@anglo86 True - in Roman times, the inhabitans of "Britannica" were Celts, i.e. members of different Celtic tribes.
pikewerfer 1 year ago
@anglo86 True though there was a Romano_British time when the Saxons and Angles were in England rite after the Romans abandoned England. The people still considered themselves Roman and prayed in Latin.
zrah1092 1 year ago
@anglo86 but then what about William the Conqueror? He was from Normandy, so maybe English was born out of Saxon-French (or latin)
Tw1St3DSt33L 11 months ago
@Tw1St3DSt33L England is best described as a land constantly conquered by foreign people and neighbors in ancient times. So imagine several little kingdoms over the centuries repeatably invaded by each other and by migrating groups. We had Druids, Roman's, Anglo's, Saxons, and Norman's invade various parts of the the isles while intermingling with the Welsh, Irish, Scottish, and English. This was typical of Europe, it's also a point to know that most British Kings in history spoke French/Dutch.
vguyver2 8 months ago