Politics and Economics in the Transition to Socialism

[noprofitmaximierung]

"I am convinced that its not only wealth or the development of the material base that will develop consciousness" Letting Workers Control their production, direct democracy is the way to consciousness. Responsibility IS consciousness. Everything else (propaganda, advertisement..) is intrusive and has nothing to do with left ideology.

[WerSeidIhrDenn2]

communism -> no rational calculation of costs and prices -> economy fail -> poverty

[SebbeSucksBawlz]

@WerSeidIhrDenn2 Please give us an example of a communism (again, just so you don't get it wrong, communism, not socialism) that had a failed economy. I look forward to your response.

[norehct]

Thank you, Thank you, for collecting this info

[MaoistLeninistMarx]

Socialism is the only way to get Communism!!!

[Thesocraticbreed]

@MaoistRebelNews2 Will you ever truly respond to my argument? I have read the Communist Manifesto. Marx wanted to get rid of private property, and the modern Communists and Socialists want to take wealth from the rich and give to the poor. Without private property, there is no real reward for the hard work. The hard work becomes superfluous.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@Thesocraticbreed and yet the work still got done asshole. People didn;t the reward what part of that don't you understand. That was in it, that's what happened in real life.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@Thesocraticbreed if you don't know that, you never read that you idiot.

[GodOfTheInternets]

@Thesocraticbreed

You confuse private property with remuneration.

[technical010]

@Thesocraticbreed

In my own theory of my version of Communism.. there is private property

the motivation to work is because of the reward of commendation and money according to work.. however the private property given to the individual is not permanent.. it would be transferred to another person if that person dies.

well.. LMAO.

Communism have many flaws.. but there should be a way

to balance these two idelogies

[Thesocraticbreed]

@MaoistRebelNews2 In theory, yes they would be the hardest workers. However, look at the incentive of the worker. They have no incentive to work if they are forced to give up a profit by Communist government hands. They will realize the truth that the government punishes those that work hard by not giving them a well enough profit for "Economic Egalitarianism" being put in consideration. They do not get the money they deserve for the hard work. Capitalism allows hard workers to get paid well.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@Thesocraticbreed And yet in communism the opposite of what you have said happened.

[xCleverlyx]

@MaoistRebelNews2 how much is your love for che?

[Thesocraticbreed]

@MaoistRebelNews2 No, Capitalism is where one many agrees to work for another for a certain sum of money... and men freely being able to make a business and survive on the moey they make. Communism is where you start forcing the rich to give up money to the poor without the poor working hard.... then everyone becomes lazy and the society begins to fail.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@Thesocraticbreed oh yes "agrees" and that than hands over his profit to one person. BTW lol on your communism is lazy BS they were the hardest workers

[noprofitmaximierung]

@Thesocraticbreed Actually in communism there would be no rich, because there are no classes... hey guess what though? Every time i go horse riding i take a fishing pole and tie a carrot to the end of it and put it in front of the horses nose, it Works GREAT!

[Thesocraticbreed]

@MaoistRebelNews2 How is it bad for people to work for what they have? I think Socialism and Communism probably is more an evil than a good because your stealing from one person and giving to another.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@Thesocraticbreed you just described capitalism

[Thesocraticbreed]

@MaoisRebelNews2 Communism would work IF it were not so idealistic.....

If Libertarianism would not work economically, I would be more of a Platonic Republican which was the ORIGINAL COMMUNISM... and in my opinion, one of the most honorable Communisms next to Ho Chi Minh's.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@Thesocraticbreed yea sure, whatever there keep praying to the hidden hand while failing to understand communism.

[jimnmcf]

I feel obliged to say that my last comment was not an advertisement for the SWPUSA or it's magazine. I was only curious as to whether or not you had used it as a reference for this video, one of your best I think since your piece on the Cultural Revolution. I appreciate you responding to my previous comment. Keep up the good work.

[jimnmcf]

Great video, both informative and thought-provoking. Was one of your sources for this video the issue of the SWPUSA's magazine, New International, dealing with exactly this subject and including the writings of Che Guevara and Carlos Tabalada?

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@jimnmcf No, it was the book by the same name.

[TheAzov]

Cuba's revolutionary process in 1959 was tempered by its dependency on the US market and the real fear of a Yanqui invasion. Che's "maximum program" of revolutionary transformation was contained in the first year and a half into a minimum program, based on a practical assessment of political forces. Only the USSR freed Cuba from these threats, enabling the complete transformation. Consciousness cannot overcome hard reality without a material foundation prepared.

[Scientisticsoviet]

Quote at 11:30.

The effects of "developing consciousness" or more broadly defined as socially responsible secular education, are actually on the long term rather than the short term.

While the cost of educating someone up to and including university is high in the short run (and thus you sacrifice some immediate gains in wealth in doing so), over about 30 years the gains are almost unbeatable (even in a narrow rate of return sense).

[beltischamp]

Liberty is not a crime.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@beltischamp no one said it was

[beltischamp]

@MaoistRebelNews2 liberty is what people want to persue, nobody ever put a gone to your head and told you to work. people have the desire and urge to work. o btw. vote ron paul

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@beltischamp Uh threat of starvation is retard. Get corporate cock out of your mouth.

[machinehead5760]

Over the past few weeks i have given up on politics.

The average person won't be able to change things. Unless we are supported by millionaires and huge corporations. Yeah we can vote for whoever stands for election. But only certain people can stand in the first place.

I think when it comes down to it, its the simplest things that work best.

Fuck it..... Viva la revolution.

[frvfilms]

woahhh, this is a huge video, THANK YOU very much for your time, 

[CelticAlphabet]

Wowzors, I didnt' know I was subbed to a heavy social statist. Its funny how people don't like property rights.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@CelticAlphabet I'm a communist not a statist. You should watch the video and learn something.

[RebelSonBand]

@MaoistRebelNews2 Im with you,all the way....Its really simple----is the big corps.my freind ?? Is a system that favores the wealthy my freind ?? No is the answer,as a working-Joe its easy to see the difference...

The ways of the world is not helping the commen man,only a few filthy rich...

REVOLT NOW...

[CelticAlphabet]

Do you plan on having a state in your ideal society?

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@CelticAlphabet Its not "mine", but there is not state in communism only in socialism

[kawaiigardiner]

The problem is that many people (of all classes) get stuck in this cycle of believing that the goal of life is to acquire as much things as possible - "he who has the most when they die wins"; one only needs to look at society in general where people are on the treadmill wanting to get the bigger car, the better television, upgrade their house to something bigger. Until people step away from materialism nothing will change and there will be no change in conciousness.

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@kawaiigardiner They get stuck in this idea that they can just make laws to make capitalism better.

[WarblesOnALot]

@MaoistRebelNews2 Hullo again... Um, yes.,Cuba did do well... Probably due to abundant Topsoil, & good Rainfall, & a mild Climate... They were forced to grow food inside the towns & cities, right on the block where the People would eat it...; when the USSR ceased supplying Diesel (for Agro-Culture & Bulk Transport), & taking Sugar as Barter... Now, rich Yankees go there to hire Harley Soft-Tails, & catch the Clap ; Pub-Crawls in the TimeWarp, for the Fatuous Executives !

[fonkymaster]

YES YOU USED MY VIDEO IDEA!!!

YES!!! I WILL WATCH THE WHOLE THING!!!

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@fonkymaster Well, I've been working on this video for like months. But I started working on it again after you mentioned it.

[fonkymaster]

@MaoistRebelNews2

Ok. Well, thanks for maeking it.

I can likez videoz.

[TheCommunist100]

"looks at the video length time. Stares." I wanna watch this, but...so much...eh well, its at least not as terrifying as ten hours of listening to "The Hobbits are being taken to Isenguard." I could only make it the first 15min. DAMN YOU ADHD!

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@TheCommunist100 There's a text version if that makes it easier

[TheCommunist100]

@MaoistRebelNews2 Ooh, thanks, that will be very useful :)

[WarblesOnALot]

@MaoistRebelNews2 G'day... Thanks for that, it's a great clip of y'r dissertation. Somewhat undercut though, due to all Varieties of Industrialism, from Unfettered Capitalism, through Social Democracy to Fascism & Stalinistic Pol-Pottyness... It's ALL varying flavours of Economics... And ALL Economic Activity requires a pre-existant Environmental Surplus. Whereas the Ec.Growth already done has wiped out the Environmental Surplus, Globally..!

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@WarblesOnALot And yet Cuba did so well with it

[SkidRowRadio]

oh cool! i was hopin someone could explain this to me in detail... *straps in*

[darksid007]

pathfinder is a great publishing house, they have allot of good book in many languages, on Malcom X, on Cuba, on the teamster, on Thomas Sankara, etc

[ender22r]

long video but a good one explained more then any history class i have taken. if you ever move to the U.S please teach a college class and become czar i mean president your a true rebel now you need a island that make coffee keep up the good work

[MrCaracas1000]

Leaving BlogTV for this was a worthy cause.

[rebelpowerhour]

I love that book!

[MaoistRebelNews2]

@rebelpowerhour easier to read than fucking Das Kapital!